£300 *30ton* hydraulic press for under! - Vevor hydraulic power pack air pump cylinder reveiw
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In this episode we take a close look at vevors 30t hydraulic cylinder and air hydraulic pump to build a diy forging press made from scrap.
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I look forward to hearing your thoughts on this and any ways you think would work even better for the price. cheers J
Another reason for preheat is to stop any potential martinsite in the heat affected zone or majority austinite and pearlite when its mean to be ferrite and pealite in low carbon steel (0.2%-0.5% carbon content)
Crazy how far you've came Josh, I knew you'd do great on CZcams 😊
@@knifethrower9733 you're very kind thank you. Cheers J
@@jonhy2x4 thank you Jon. That's great information. Cheers J
Do you have a video on how you made your cnc plasma?
Really like the look of it, just what I need!
Always nice when someone saves us being nosey, and losing bits ourselves! Excellent review.
Thank you so much. cheers J
i always love these DIY tools! i cant believe the compact size to power ratio.
Thank you. Including the compressor it's not so compact but it's definitely tidy. Cheers J
Great to see another build. I look forward to seeing the new videos you talk about getting back to hand making tools and working with the copice project. Thanks for all the great content
Next video filming this week. Cheers J
Excellent! I like the way you do things.
This is the content I enjoy watching, plus traditional forging.
Thank you David. Cheers J
Hi Joshua, that seems like a powerful "small" monster you build there 😃 Too "heavy" for the stuff I make, but the way you build these tools and give a clear explanation how to build them, is always a pleasure to watch. I already pick up some of your tooling ideas, bought them myself and still happy I did 🙂 I am sure you inspire lots of people.
I hope it works out with your future projects. Have fun! 👍
Thank you so much and I'm glad these videos are helpful to you, thank you for letting me know as it is a real encouragment. I'm considdering getting quick connection fitting for the hydraulics and maybe experiment with small cyclinders for making super clamps. cheers J
Wow, that is indeed a mighty little press!! Joshua you are one very talented individual. Every video just gets better and better. 👏✊👍
You're very kind Trevor. Cheers J
Appreciate the knowledge you share. Thank you .
Amazing. I could see you making custom hole punches and lots of stuff.
That deburing thing is magic, im still using a Norga deburing hand tool i got as an apprentice sheetmetal worker over 40 years ago, using original tip !!!
Nice. Cheers J
Even though you are across the pond from me, I do enjoy seeing your videos. You have helped me think about having different diy options. Keep up the good work.
Thank you so much. All the very best. Cheers J
Lovely bit of kit. Fantastic workshop you have.
Thank you Adam. Cheers J
Nicely done, I like how you used the plasma cutter to cut out the I beam to slide your piece in to weld it instead of just welding it on the bottom - makes it very strong that way. Thanks for the video!
Thank you. Yes it's definitely one of the stronger ways to join it for this application. I think 30t would potentially peel it off if it was just butt welded. Cheers J
Your content is truly one of a kind. 😃
Thank you. Cheers J
Different, I always like it along the context of it won't be used as intended. As the this, and that come together into something unique. Like the press, thanks for sharing. Cheers!
Thank you. Cheers J
Thank you for such a cool build! I loved it and it inspired me to build my own. I got tbe components and metal and will build something similar!
Another great video. I'm going to admit I did not fully understand all of the details (my problem not your delivery) but really loved the insightfulness.
What a wonderful tool you've created. Can't wait to see what you're gonna do with it.
Thank you so much. Cheers J
I'm glad to see your channel growing.. great job!
Thank you so much. Hopefully this means I can create bigger budget videos for you. Cheers J
Josh,
This is a game changer in forging press design
Dave
Thank you Dave, I hope it helps. Cheers J
I'd love to see more of this press, forging something from start to finish, I'm an amateur smith and i've been considering a hydraulic press.
Thank you, I'll see what I can do with my next commission piece. Cheers J
Nice job I could see that absolutely coming in handy.
Thanks Rob. It sure will. Cheers J
Really pleased you have got the chance of making one of these I have been collecting parts for one myself. problem I have is I acquired a petrol driven pump and have to convert to electric Bah! at least the neighbours will be happy I haven't gone the power hammer route! lol keep up the videos really appreciate them they all cover what I mess about with 👍
Thank you so much. Cheers J
Cracking, informative video. Keep them coming.
Thank you so much. Lots more to come. Cheers J
Amazing content, looking forward for that plasma table!!
Thank you so much. Yep plenty to come. Too much really for me to do quickly but it's definitely coming. Cheers J
Ram seals are normally the only problem with use.
But used to get them made over night in a higher quality and spec by ram express at Cannock.
Joshua always great to see ur videos my friend. Always learning from your videos sir. Awesome exampleing and reviewimg tools / toys. Absolutely awesome job. Love this design and build. Can't wait to see more videos soon. Keep up the great craftsmanship and hard work my friend. Forge On. Fab On. Weld On. Keep forge lit. Forge your life worth living. Keep making. God bless.
Thank you and God bless you too for your kindness and encouragement. have a great day my maker friend. cheers J
@@joshuadelisle your welcome. thanks So Much. God Bless.
More great content from the master craftsman love it.
You're very kind. Cheers J
Looking foward to the next plasma table build! 👍
Yes I'm just clearing some space now in preparation. Cheers J
"The question is, can I get this back in again." How many times have I asked myself that one. I encountered ball bearings and springs when, at age 12, I took my pellet gun apart. I never did get the safety working properly after that. I loved watching this adventure.
Thank you so much. Cheers J
Well done Josh keep em coming
Thank you. Cheers J
shove a bit of cloth in the exhaust, and a ziptie around the exhaust port for the chamfer tool, makes it much quieter, also they make corner round inserts for them as well
Good tip thank you David. Cheers J
In oe video I got more tips and tricks then in a year of youtube watching. great job. subscribtion well deserved.
Thank you so much. Cheers J
I love seeing tools being used to make more tools.
Thank you Darren. Cheers J
Well done Josh ,very interesting
Thank you Neil. I Look forward to catching up again sometime soon. I must pop over. Cheers J
Love this, will subscribe 👍🏻
Thank you. cheers J
Those steering wheel spinner knobs would work great on your t-handle.
Class video that great idea very well presented.
Thank you so much, I enjoyed making this one a lot. cheers J
first vid of yours ive seen, would definitely like to see more of this and to see a punch and die setup in that thing
Thank you. Definitely something in the future. Cheers J
TBH, im super glad YT algorithm suggested me your channel. great to see you're still using the products you got in the past making the reviews that much more true over the "years". and you dont shout while being smart-funny.
great job!
Thank you so much. I'm really glad to have your support and encouragement, I want to try and bring more simple diy tools and techniques in the future. However reviewing some of the more complex machines is paying the way and hopefully is still of interest to you. Cheers J
@@joshuadelisle of course it is. im still trying to do a shop of my own so anything goes in terms of welding, cnc, machining, wood and metal working, or anything workshop related (my first view was the webasto you did and it seems it's still rocking in the background) related is awesome and much appreciated
Very good idea... if rebuilding one of those footvalves is not beyond you... sometimes you can pick them up at bodyshops broken. This is the same system used to straighten frames... and they work great! You can actually pull a car to pieces with one .
They sure are good bits of kit. Cheers J
Hi Joshua,
Brilliant!!!
More of the same would be fab!
Cheers
Thank you Chris. Cheers J
love the press
Thank you. Cheers J
Lol I like this I want to bend 2x2 box square tubing and this helps me get an idea of how to do it without 220v or heat. I just need a few 90° bends. I was already thinking about using a manual log spliter and this helps me out with this.
Thank you. Yep this will be great for that. I'm going to make tooling for mine for bar cropping, sheet metal break press, hole punch and die forming. I've even considered using multiple pumps to increase speed and to use on a double acting cylinder. Cheers J
Definitely interested in the steam power plant. But anything you do is very interesting.
Thank you so much. Cheers J
Hi mate, interesting video. So no dramas mounting that Ram upside with fluid leakage or air voids above the pump? Do the specs say you can mount it upside down?
Cheers
Great vid buddy you now have a new watcher 😊
Thank you so much. Cheers J
When I was doing my blacksmith trade, we used old forklift tynes a lot.
Very valuable content. Thanks
Thank you Monty. Cheers J
Great video Joshua, it seems its been a while since your videos popped up. I'm very glad to hear about your self sufficiency forged tools. Obviously that's been a goal and long term plan of yours, considering the wood gas generator , steam generator etc. So keep up the great work. Just don't get taken too much by all the "sustainable" talk. And if you hear that in the context of "sustainable development " and "governance" , run for the hills, there is an agenda behind it and you and I and our families are not in the club if ya know what I mean. I have a feeling you already know this stuff though. I've liked the video and I'm gonna share it on my Facebook page. So keep forging a life worth living and I'll see you on the next video.
Thank you so much. Yes absolutely, I am more interested in sustainable self sufficiency which cuts ties with dictatorships in general. Cheers J
Some quick math says that this setup will max out at 26.5T if the cylinder ram diameter is 2.6in & the pressure reaches the 10000 psi limit.
excellent!
Great stuff! Thanks 👍😊
Thank you Guss. Cheers
cool build
Cheers J
hmmm , have a air over hydrailic pump on my 20 ton garagepress , and the pu
mp itself looks verry simulair to the one in the foot operated one , might go take a look if i can convert it to foot operation ..........could put a foot operated aitvalve on it but then i still whont be able to release the ram without taking my hand off the woekpiece to operate the release valve
Joshua, it is so hard forging that life worth living working 12 hours days. you are a welcome beacon of release and inspiration. I am hoping to buy your power hammer plans shortly. All your content is awesome and come away with something. please go back to your roots. as the world collapses in on itself those are the skill the ordinary person will need to survive. thank you
Thank you so much. Definitely having those traditional and primitive skills is important for both self-sufficiency and survival should it hit the fan. I did 12hour night shifts after I lost my old workshop and very slowly kept using my rest days to build up the life we have now. It's hard work but no one else will do it for you. All the very best my friend. Cheers J
Great video as always mate, I would love to see you making some green woodworking tools as this is something I have toyed with myself, as I’m just a humble wood butcherer I would love to see how a pro goes about this. Although the review video aren’t as interesting as the build videos you still make them interesting and fun to watch, the hills have to be payed and you can use them tools to make build videos so it’s a win win in my opinion buddy !
Thank you so much for your support. Lots to come. Cheers J
Wow someone else who can free hand with a plasma or a torch. I get so tired of seeing angle grinders cutting through 1/4 thick plate or more when people own torches.
I like it great job.
Thank you. Cheers J
Thats a might tool , and so compact.
Thank you Tom. I love it. Cheers J
I built a similar one some years ago out of a short ram that 'only' had 20 tons and would still deform my frame with ease. I've had one of these foot pump ones on my Redo list now that I'm a more competent welder, but steel prices have kept me from doing so. Might be about time to slip down to the scrap yard and trade in my pile of aluminum cans!
All the very best my friend. Cheers J
This is awesome
Thank you. Cheers J
Mate I love this
Thank you Toby. I want to try a 20 ton cylinder to see if it moves faster for forging. All the very best. Cheers J
Love your basic shop. Give hope to me.😊
Thank you so much. simple is the best I think. cheers J
you mentioned getting a log splitter, how about making a form and creating a wood briquette press for sawdust/chips ?
Good idea 👍 cheers J
Why am I not already subscribed to this channel? 🤷♂️
That little bevel machine is a fantastic idea!
Thank you so much. That little bevel tool really makes parts that much more professional and tactile. Cheers J
This is wonderful!
Thank you Todd. Cheers J
@@joshuadelisle Are you happy with how quickly the piston returns? I'm looking at a 6-ton electric log splitter for about the same price
@@toddellner5283 I think the log splitter under 10t are not good enough in my opinion for forging. This works fairly well but not as good as the power hammer I built. I would be interested in either using a smaller cylinder for faster speed or doubling up my pump for twice the speed. Cheers J
Daaaaaamn was hoping you were building a DIY press brake for some reason 😄 nice work as always
That's definitely a tool attachment I can set up. I was going to use a bolster chisel and a couple of round bars to make one. Cheers J
I'm definitely going to make an attachment for that. Cheers J
@@joshuadelisle that's awesome, can't wait for that one. Do you still have plans for the respirator mask you've made? Ta
Awesome can't be bit for that kind of money
Definitely. Cheers J
I almost choked on my vape when you said how much (little) you pay for the forklift tines; I mean, a tenner for all that steel?! 😲
I love these _"look at what I built for a fraction of the cost"_ type videos; I just wish I had (or knew someone who did have) random lengths of I-beam and chunks of 12mm plate lying around as scrap. 😄👍
Lol. It's a definite fact that the best deals can't be found on the internet and instead networking with the hidden away underdogs of the industry can find you the best stuff. Note that the I-beam has been lying around in my shed for 12 years and those tines I bought pre covid when prices weren't as crazy. Cheers J
Baker forklifts do some of the best tines as never had a fault once in 20years of scrap yard animals trying to lift 20ton on 3.5 tonight trucks😂
Cheap daint last a week
@@Tattooedfreak _"trying to lift 20 ton on 3.5 ton trucks"_ I've worked with people like that, well, _tried_ to! Do you think they're all related, or at least share a common gene? 🤔😆
@@Loneman_OG maximum stupidity seems to be very common in the workplace.
Look at those in charge tbf most have never picked up more than a pen and they are controlling the job.
I'm thinking hydraulic press, Guerin box press or elastoforming press. Similar to how some aircraft parts are made such as wing ribs.
Nice. Cheers J
Very cool DIY :)
Thank you. Cheers J
I’ve been trying to come up with a cheap option to assist me in forging blades and other small projects. I will have to build whatever I choose which means I’ll have to get a welder first… I’ve seen some used, electric wood splitters for pretty cheap. Either I make a powered press or power hammer. If I do the planning right, I could use my belt grinder motor to run the power hammer.. I still have to get a used $100 welder and to learn how to at least do a half decent weld.
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Make sure that you check the threads if replacing the cylinder fitting , the 700 bar system uses 3/8 NPT
Good tip. Thank you. Cheers J
Another reason why you should pre-heat a huge steel plate before welding, is called "equivalent carbon" (probably not the right term). It is a metallurgy formula that allows you to calculate the hardenability of the heated metal (in that case the weld). The problem with such thick steel is that the carbon is attracted by the weld, and the final weld ends up being much harder than if the plate was thinner because the carbon has more room to go in the weld. I welded recently a 40mm steel plate which was 0.13% carbon, and the carbon equivalent ended up being 0.7% !!!! so this is waaay above the minimum for it to harden. I just learned this a few days ago and i found this fascinating thought i would share !
Thats great information, thank you, what did you use to test the carbon amount? cheers J
@@joshuadelisle i knew it was just a regular construction Steel, so i took the average composition to enter in the formula which ended up in a carbon equivalent of 0,7%
This is awesome. Alsio i'm very jelaous of your steel prices. and options to loot some scrap bins :)
Thank you. It may be a case of just knowing the right people. You could never find deals like that online. Most of the engineering places I glean from I've worked at before. Cheers J
@joshuadelisle I purchased one of these this week and worked a treat to remove a seized pin. I have found though that the hydraulic oil is leaking from the internal seal quite badly. Have you experienced this at all on yours?
Upon closer inspection the internal bore of the hollow piston hasn’t got the finest machining finish which is probably what’s causing this issue.
It holds under load (as the seal conforms) but leaks when idle.
Be interested in your experience a few months on.
Thank you I'll definitely check mine as I use it. I left the breath hole open when storing it once and it leaked but other than that it's been fine. Cheers J
Great work, thanks for the info
You should try selling this complete project
Thank you so much. I like to inspire others to build their own and learn new skills. Cheers J
This is amazing stuff, I am about to buy this cylinder and pump, actually 50mm stroke because I think I need smaller cylinder so I can use it on cars to take out bearings. But I will build a press to.
Any advices?!
Also is it necessary to have that air valve on the air hose that is connected to the pump?
Good job man, and thanks a lot for the reply and all the DIY info on your channel!
Velcome to the HUdraulic press channel.
Interesting little gadget. Compressed air to hydraulic. A few valves and cylinders for a backyard backhoe?
You certainly could. Probably needs a larger hydraulic tank for anything serious. You could even have several foot pumps for different actions. Cheers J
I know this is an older video now but awesome lookining , what's the smallest compressor you think you could run on as I'm thinking about having a go but not much space for a compressor was thinking of a small 24l electric one but not sure it would cope
A little compressor will work fine. It will just be working harder than a larger version. Cheers J
Hi sorry for the questions but just checking as im new to air compressors, the hydraulic pump days it used 5-10cfm as most compressors seem to be about9.6 is that OK or would 14.5 be a lot better, I dont really use a air tools so compressor would really just be for this project.
@@chrislawrence6015 the cfm is how fast it re-fills, a large tank takes longer to fill so a bigger cfm pump is required. It makes no difference to the output which is determined by the psi and diameter of hose. Cheers J
great video. love the set up youve made. where do you get the forklift tines from for £10?
They're from a local scrap merchant. They're worn or damaged so have to be replaced as part of policy. Cheers J
Joshua, this is very interesting, I’m a fan of Vevor products, and wanted to build a press, this one takes up very little room
Thank you Terry. The UK has limited stock but the USA stock has an amazing selection of different types, I'm super pleased with how compact this version is also. cheers J
@@joshuadelisle Vevor UK do seem to be selling much less 'interesting' stuff recently...
@@richjmaynard you're right, it sucks. Cheers J
Could you please make a video on your vice metal bending rig. I'm very interested if you build it yourself and how you made it. Or if it's just a tool you bought and how you rate it
Hi. You may be referring to my miracle bender No.3 it's an antique tool. Cheers J
Thanks for another great video. You mentioned you buy in the old forklift forks for a tenner. I could really use some steel that thick but haven't been able to afford it. Where do you get them from at such a low price? Or have you got any you want to sell? I only need 1 or 2.
Any info would be great. Thanks again
Thank you. A friend gets them for me from a scrap man. They apparently have to replace the tines once they are worn or damaged. If you're in the UK I can maybe get you a contact? Cheers J
A 20 ton press is available in the us for $250 ready built. They are much larger
That's great 👍
This stuff IS what I'd like to see you make! I'm an aspiring blacksmith, veeeeeeery close to being a journeyman Welder (Red Seal welder in Canada) and have worked in metal fabrication for about 5-6 years and my "long game" goal is to have my own workshop with the tools I need to use all of my knowledge and experience to run a small business. I have an issue that compounds the difficulty of not working with a press or power hammer, I've had heart disease since I was born and had my last open heart surgery 4 years ago so swinging a hammer for ages and ages really wears me down. But my real problem after that, is capital. I don't have the money to be able to afford a small power hammer or even a 6 ton press (lol saw one at Canadian tire, well a log splitter on sale but EVEN STILL). Anyway, yeah finding out ways to make cheap but really useful equipment to get a broke ass bitch like myself burning propane. Keep up the good work, the videos are great!!
Thank you so much. I'll do my best to bring simple and affordable tool ideas. Cheers J
Hi Joshua. Where do you get the fork lift tynes from at scrap prices
Scrap man. Cheers J
Really enjoy your videos. I wonder whether you would be better with the smaller cylinder for blacksmithing as it would be faster. Real 12t seems to be adequate in most off the shelf “home” type blacksmithing presses?
You could be right, I'll see if I can get another cylinder set to test. Cheers J
@@joshuadelisle Great video and thanks for the sources. I was wondering how to speed it up as well. Would a different power pack do the trick? Not sure what spec would need changing I'm guessing greater GPM flow? I've had some I-Beam laying around forever might give this a go.
Make a shear to chop off thick chunks of metal! cutting up ingots for metal casting is super time consuming and difficult.
Hello. Very nice video. Can I ask - what is the adapter you used to replace the coupling supplied on the jack? Seems there is a lot of choice out there - I don't know too much about hydraulics other than I dont want to be on the wrong end of a bad connection!
Hi. I just used what came with the pump. It has its own adapter connection. Cheers J
Cheers. And quick reply! Ive recently acquired a similar setup, but the pump didnt come with any female coupling part. Anyway, thanks for the info and great video.
@@user-px8hw6oe8i pioneer tractor or any name brand might work. i used some on my portal power.
Cheers @@HarryPalm-px9gy. I actually found the coupling I was after - search "Male Coupling with Nitrile Seals, NPT, Quick Couplers, Hydraulic Tooling - 3/8"". Vevor annoyingly do a female-connection version, which wont of course fit the ram.
yea i have oil forge press which far faster using oil hydraulic. Just buy a used log splitter. Turn it into a 5 hp motor. That’s what I did eventually building my own frame. It’s not that hard. Actually just use some really thick angle iron like 3/8 and you’ll have your rails on each side.
Will this work for stamping sheet metal. Or just forging? I'm looking for a cheap press for stamping out parts.
I will certainly be making punching die holders for it. You get a 35t punch from VEVOR that is very affordable. Depends on the size of cut out you want to make. Cheers J
Nice One
Thank you. Cheers J
Joshua, with the compact size of this you should consider drilling a hole in the top support so you can use it as a bearing puller too like your demo with the wood. Does the ram automatically retract when you stop depressing the pedal or do you need to turn a release valve. Do you think 2.5 inch mild steel would work in place of the hardened fork lift tines?
I was also thinking it would be pretty easy to make a quick change die for the ram too and incorporate your straightener.
As much as I want to build every cool thing I see I'm limited by budget and time but the simplicity of this is so fantastic and affordable I'm not limited by either! Seems like a nice tool to compress a Damascus billet.
Thank you so much and those are good ideas. I'll definitely create a punching die, brake press, metal shears etc later on. I may also ad a second or even third pump daisy chained together to increase flow rate and get quicker forging speeds. The retraction happens when I engage the pedal forward, otherwise it sits in a neutral position and doesn't move which can be handy for clamping. Cheers J
A steam power plant? A steam engine with boiler and the whole package coupled to a generator? That would be one for the off-grid people 🙂
I find your stuff wildly interesting as it is. But dont forget about that PAPR stuff.
Thank you Rolf. Yes the papr is being filmed this week. I'm testing my diy version against a military grade version. Should be good. Cheers J
More awesomeness hehe
Hi Joshua very impressive build!! I see the cyclinder is single way one, so I guess the return is by means of an internal spring. Is it correct?
Hi, yes that's correct. The spring gives a good retraction speed but enough force for returning hot punches or drifts. Cheers J