Sayuri is a voluntary single mother (Problem Child in House) | KBS WORLD TV 210408
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kids should raised in environment where they are WANTED. and she clearly loves her baby. im happy for her
Ikr. Ppl be badmouthing Sayuri as "it will aFf3ct the child's growth not having a father-figure growing up" like wtf? STFU Karen, kids are better off any kind of family they are in as long as they are wanted. Ppl are so mean to her just because she had the baby in an unconventional way. It's mf 2021 yall
Agreed!! There's no good to be raise with 2 parents if they're toxic. Also, it's better to have a child like she did or adopt than be with Mr. Wrong just to have a baby.
Exactly. Let’s stop the narrative that children somehow deserve a mother and a father in a household because there are abusive households that have BOTH of those and are still terrible and not a place that you should ever put a child. There are so many “full“ homes that have this quote in quote loving family image that turn out to be terrible terrible terrible places for children. I keep hearing this narrative, especially in black homes that a child needs a father figure, which alludes to the fact that a mother should have some type of male by her side to help her raise a child which is not true single family homes get along just fine because they have the support system. All you really need is to show a child that they are needed, that they are wanted.
No they should be raised by mother and father
@@sillymesilly STFU
I think KBS is putting her on the show to open up korea's mindset about single mothers. She might have chosen to be a single mom but other single mothers will relate to her as a mom.
This will address the issue of kids getting bullied just because they had no father at home.
even if that wasn’t their intention, im still glad they gave her this platform to let her speak. she got some heat for her decision, and putting her in their show is a really good way to de-stigmatize not only her decision but single motherhood in general (both by choice and not by choice)
Children NEED A TWO PARENT FAMILY not a single mother! Look at America and check the statistics for children raised by single mothers. It ends TERRIBLY most of the time
Also the country has infertility problems so it's a way to encourage the people to consider other possibilities
@@JJoh4040 that’s just america LMAO
@@JJoh4040 can u Stf up u said this already in another comment and by the way single parents can do just as well thank you very much
Her decision is better than rushing marriage only to get a child.
Ikr and end up divorcing ....still ending up a single mom anyways
FACTS!!
True!!!!!!!
true...some people just get married to get their own child...end up divorce...
I hope his child understand her when he grows, she did an amazing journey, all for him :')
I'm so glad she's helping Korea advance and normalize single parents raising children. Maybe that's why she got pregnant in the first try, she is meant to change minds for the better. I love it!!!
She actually have health problem... she had irregular period which later dr inform that she almost like menopause woman although she is only 41 y old...
She want to have family actually but she has health problem that would make her difficult to has baby in the future. That's the reason why she chose uses donor because she doesn't want married without love. She afraid it will end up bad.
This is good for women that cant have a baby, korea should be open minded , they are always left behind with their old system
I recall watching a show where a single father raising his young daughter in Korea was criticized. Kids made fun of her, the neighbours wouldn't let their kids play with her cause she was raised by a single father???? His wife had left them...this man was doing all he could for his daughter , to which he was a loving father! In western culture we give credit and praise a single parent that raises their kids well, in Korea they seem to judge and punish a single parent despite they do all they can to offer a great life for their child.
@@sitimunirah1298 Then it’s even a more miracle and I’m so happy that she got pregnant before she entered menopause. We should all support her~
Good for her. She wants to be a mom and will raise a wouderful person
what happend to her husband
@@everybodysaylalalala6568 she's not marry anyone
@@everybodysaylalalala6568 science is partly the father 😂 . There was no sex involve. That is the clue!
@@everybodysaylalalala6568 lol " what hapen to her husband"? "
@@everybodysaylalalala6568 did you not watch the video buddy? She did tell she was pregnant thru ivf
No one is talking about the fact Sayuri said she was afraid tabloids would say Sam is the father. I'm dead. 🤣 But let's be honest, not only do Ben and Zen share similar names they both look alike as babies too. So I can see how that rumor could pop up. lolol Speaking of which, now that she's joining the show I can't wait to see Zen and Ben meet up on TROS!
Shes joining TROS??
@@ajaxbleach yep. last I read, she'll be the first ever mom on the show.
@@ajaxbleach Yeah she's joining TROS and knetz even started a petition to get her off the show just because she was single. More than the fact that she was a mother rather than a father. KBS was like "lol no ya'll are wack" and basically protected Sayuri from all the harmful comments she's been receiving, but I'm so excited to see her on the show, she has so much love for her baby even before he was conceived. Also the white man genes are so strong, but hopefully as the boys grow up, their Asian features will begin to be more prominent.
I read somewhere knetz are protesting because IVF is illegal for single parent, and only available for married couple in Korea. But she did everything in Japan right? Why tf is knetz upset then?
@@ajaxbleach it’s not by law illegal idts, it’s more like looked down upon and restricted. Knetz are angry bc they’re salty and probably bc Sayuri is part of Korean industry and has been here for so long. Idk if she holds a Korean citizenship tho, so many that’s why knetz are mad. Then again, they’re always mad LOL
Nowadays, It's very common to be a single mother in Europe due to various circumstances and these mothers are supported rather than criticized. It's better to be a happy, single mother than mother with depression or negative attitude to life by the guys who hurt us....
She is so happy talking about her motherhood and people shouldn't disrespect her for her decision. It's her own life!
Yes totally agree. But korean mid age group old fashioned .protester criticize her ..because broadcast person this case first time it will take time. But lots people support her .
Totally agree! My mother raised me all alone and I’m so thankful to her, she raised me well.
Yes, single motherhood should be praised everywhere BUT please don't compare Asian women to Europeans. You with your loose morals and ruining the true meaning of feminism with your radical ideals. Just please respect us Asian women and never compare us to Europeans.
@@miramonoban6999 but there is not a matter of criticism... I really respect your culture and what is more also my culture and society (I'm from Poland) is quite strict in various issues due to Catholic Church Influence and comunnist past etc and there it's preferable to get married and then have children... Of course I prefer having completed family rather than being a sigle mother but you never know what life will bring you...so choose wisely... :)
@@miramonoban6999 what does that even mean? people are all the same whether theyr're asian or european or african. it does not matter. it's their choice to become independent. it's their choice:)
She didn't surprise the world, she just shocked Korea, I hope people stop talking bad about her and her baby
Knets are bully, that's why she worried so much
Japanese power 🙌🏻
@@martavye2218 i think it has more to do with the wave of antifeminism in south korea recently and how ANYThING that insinuates a woman doesnt need a man to live happily is like an attack on manhood.. 😩😩 it's truly dumb but these korean incels have a large platform sadly
😝😝😝😞😝😝😈😈
Huge respect for Sayuri. She knows what she wants and she's willing to take the leap to make it happen. If I would be able to earn enough money for IVF, I would do it.
Same here
I am legit happy for her, so glad she went straight in and opened up about the process instead of being hush about it. People are learning from Sayuri and Zen and I hope to see them on TROS.
Yes! I'm hoping they'd visit Wiliam and Bentley in their new house. That would be a great interaction uwu
It has been announced as the first mother to be on TROS. She will be on the show but the dates haven’t been announced. Not as a guest but as an actual parent.
@@hollybrooke322 Yes! Can't wait 😍
@@hollybrooke322 really where'd you get the informatin from?
@@bubblez21c sbs announces it. There's a lot of articles too. Soon we will see sayuri & her son in tros
Her dad not caring about her way of pregnancy and just being glad she’s not in danger makes me happy
People might concerned how the kid grow knowing his friends has a father but he's not. Plus being biracial from asian mom growing up amongst asian kids. But in this modern age there are many kinds of families. And if Sayuri can provide lots of love and understanding I think he'll grow just fine.
Yeah i think so. If he saw this video, he will be rooting his mother forever 💜
Exactly!
I think it is better to not have father since born then to have father and the father leave him.
I grew up without a father, he abandon me ,so i salute this woman
he won’t be white he is biracial white and asian.
I just can't get over the thought that a single woman can't have free use of her OWN DAMN EGGS to have a baby. Straight out of The Handmaid's Tale
@@sruthi671 What? She had to go to Japan to get IVF. It was Korea that didn't let her use her eggs.
@@sruthi671 japan allowed her to proceed with IVF as an unmarried woman, but korea (where she had her eggs frozen) refused to let her use them without being married. that part did shock me (as an american) but i'm also... half unsurprised?
many asian countries are still extremely conservative about reproduction. korea is particular also has a rough history with its children; post-war korean orphans (or abandoned children) is still a difficult thing for modern koreans to grapple with. the issue of single mothers who were impregnated by foreign soldiers stationed in korea abandoning their newborn babies in "baby drop boxes" (it's a real thing, you can google it) is considered shameful history and it's no wonder korean laws now are still very strict about requiring marriage before IVF. i don't agree with it of course, but there's definitely some context.
@@nebullae This also shocked me a bit but then I thought about some of the ways the US is also extremely conservative about reproduction and just felt depressed all over again. For instance women trying to get their tubes tied are often denied if they don't already have a certain number of children, aren't married or don't have consent from their husband. All of which is insane to me given it is a woman's body and the assumption is that she must be going to want kids someday even if she says with her own mouth that she won't. I hope that all countries will become more open minded and respectful of these issues soon!
Literally a part of her body since she was born. We are born with all our eggs.
Sayuri was indirectly saying that if she had a child with her boyfriend he’ll leave her and she’ll end up hating him because the child is being abandoned by the father. She doesn’t want her kid to go through the misery. So she really did a good choice. I respect her.
I think you misunderstood. She was saying that at first she loved her ex so much that she just wanted to be with him even if it meant she couldn't ever have kids. But then she started thinking, what if in the end he fell in love with a younger women and broke up with sayuri, then sayuri would not be able to have kids and not be able to get married to him and she would hate the man she once loved so much. So instead she decided to break up before that could happen and choose to be a single mom through sperm donor.
@@Loriani93 yep you're correct, sayuri's point was that she ended up thinking she had two choices: to either 1) stay with the ex who didn't want to have children (and if he changed his mind, she would be too old to naturally conceive) with the potential of breaking up if he left her for a younger woman, and 2) to break up with him now to pursue single motherhood, regardless of the gossip/backlash.
sayuri decided she valued a baby over the relationship (which could end if he changed his mind about children, so she was at risk of no baby + no partner if she stayed). i applaud her for her bravery in making that choice because i'm sure it wasn't easy, and raising zen herself isn't easy now.
@@Loriani93 I know but she also didn’t try to have kids with him and she know it won’t work. So she just broke up with him.
@@Loriani93 I think sayuri has a valid point...good thinking from her since her ex bf also had no intention to marry...it's definitely better to move on and live for yourself
@@nebullae why didnt she came in a new relationdhip with a boy of her age ..she could have had a baby with him then ..m confused
Bruh i was only raised by my mom because my dad is in another country. My grandpa and uncle were the male figures I have. They would send and pick me up from school and buy me food. My uncle was a church singer and so i became one, I even ended up studying voice because of him. I grew up a decent human being. Srsly ppl need to stop thinking that a biological father is the only father one can have.
Agree!!
my dad didn't live with me and my siblings since I was the age of 13 I guess, my mom along with my grandparents who lived nearby us raised us. My dad doesn't even know what problems we went through, how we are so bonded happy and caring.. but since he's a little old now we just forgot the past and whenever we meet once in a few months, he go to places, make memories and I try to share my interests even though he doesn't understand, because he is my dad.
my dad is a very simple and good human too never tortured us or anything, but he's just too simple minded to understand any of us.
her experiencing in dating the man she loved really hits me hard. i was pursuing a guy and was willing to not go through marriage and not have a baby. but we had a fallout so i am still recovering. maybe if marriage doesn't happen to me at all, i'll probably do what sayuri did. and im glad she and her baby are doing great!
At least you date but I didn't 😂😭😭
I respect Sayuri's decision as I know the struggle of aging, failed relationships, and the insecurities that they bring. Lovely baby. I loved how she pronounced "allergy" in Japanese😊
I’m so happy that she’s talking about it and that Korean TV hasn’t alienated her. She’s going to be a wonderful mother and I hope that her story takes some of the stigma behind being a single mom.
so much better for kids when their parent actually wants them rather than them being a surprise or mistake she worked hard and i’m so happy for her
Surprise is not the problem, you still can decide to get it, to give it up for adoption or you can get an abortion ^^ a surprise can still be a wanted child, just to early and not planned 😊 but it can also be not wanted and will have a horrible life 😅 then the mother should have given it up for adoption or did an abortion... There are so many kids treated bad...
I'm glad that Sayuri was able to become a mother. She looks so happy and healthy ❤
She went to the ends of the earth to have her child, you can tell how much she loves him. Congrats to her!!
I'm so happy and proud of her, she's is doing a great job as a single mom. She love children and wanted one of her own ,her parents are very supportive love them and adorable Zen💞🌍
It’s weird that South Korea is so advance in terms of technology but yet they are so behind about this and people’s choice of their sexuality.
Sometimes it just the mindset that defines if a country is truly advanced or not.
I hope South Korea soon accepts LGBTQ normalcy n single mom n most importantly idol dating.
It warms my heart to hear her story. Having a child is a huge responsibility and choosing to do it alone is no walk in park .Hoping for her and her child good health always .
This is the most honest, wonderful and revolutionary thing I’ve ever watched in S.Korean television.
Now that she said Zen could be rumor Sam's child , Zen really does look alike William when he was a child 🤣🤣 this is so funny
Sam Hammington and Hong Sokcheon were probably choking on their saliva or sneezing when this was filmed 😂😂
but she is right though it makes no sense that hong seokcheon (with his wonderful personality we by now all know) should be shunned from tv for a decade! thats a very long time. I can imagine why she was cautious and it highlights the mistreatment of people who dare to admit theyre different from the tradition
I think Sam has been choking about this since day one .....one day the truth will come out.
She is so brave. I am so happy that she went forth with her decision and did not let societies judgement keep her away from her happiness. I wish her and her bundle of joy good health and happiness.
So glad KBS choose her to become a guest in one of their program, knowing KBS they are conservative 🙃
Baby Zen is really looks like Bentley Hammington when he's still a new born and people can really think that Zen's father is Sam 😆
Fact: William and Ben Hammington and Zen is conceived by IVF ❤️
KBS is Conservative, I think you forgot that Korea as a whole is a Conservative country so what a surprise that their media is too... 😂😂
Yesss i am so excited to see her and have anbinteraction with the hammingtons
I didn't know that ben and william are IVF babies
she clearly LOVES her child and she's happy to have him, so glad he'll grow up in a loving environment
It was funny when Sayuri brought Sam up and they said "she's back!". She's right though. There would be so many rumors especially because her son looks a lot like Bently 😂
Sayuri is honestly so remarkable. She’s raising a child by herself and showing the East that a single family household can be one of love and support. Just incredible, Sayuri!
This shows how conservative the Asians still are nowadays to think that being a voluntary single mother is something out of the world. A capable single mother is better than two useless parents. Baby Zen is so cute. I might have done the same if I were in Sayuri's shoes. She is simply amazing and strong to have made this decision. Respect.
I would never imagine even in my dream to hear such great thing as "Volunteer single mom".
Perhaps this is the future for country such as Japan, with extremely low birth rates. As a young man myself, I'm a bit worry for my future but Wow, this is Amazing.
It's a lot more common in Western countries
U have a point , most of boys doesnt like a baby, so if he dosnt like then raise it on your own risk, this is our future ,
Many men do not wish to get married or have a family. This is the future now
@@Kat74770 women don't either though
I hope that as voluntary single mothers get more accepted, people who remain childless by choice would be too. I mean it's becoming common, but not that understood really.
Kores is very close minded, so I applaud her for making the choice, and for not hiding it or being ashamed. Kudos to all single parents out there 👏👏👏👏❤️❤️❤️❤️
She's right tho. Zen looks like Bentley he can be mistaken as Sam Hammington's son if she wasn't honest😂🤣 i love her.
Sayuri really is admirable. I have a lot of respect for her. ♥♥♥
I am really happy for her. She totally deserves all.the happiness of the world. Much love to her kid.
We are always rooting for you Sayuri ❤ ♥
"... he could be Sam Hammilton's son" 🤣🤣🤣
He do be looking like Ben and William when they were infant so I see her point 😂😂
Ikr I died when she said that 😂😂
even Sam said it himself that Baby Zen looks like Ben so much when Ben was a baby..
hahahahaha he looks so much like bentley too
I search for this comment😂her baby look like baby bentley🤣I remember when Sam and Yumi want a daughter😌
I've seen the return of superman episode of zen and honestly sayuri is such a compassionate mom i wish she was my mother. Zen will surely grow up to be an amazing child.
If japanese government allowing this, people shouldnt care much how she got her baby. She leads a great example. She is afraid her boyfriend wont marry her and she is getting older to pregnant. And some women prefer to stay unmarried. I think she had made a good decision.
I think Sayuri is a very incredible mother. She knew she wanted a baby and did what she could so that she could have a child. She went to Japan and got a donor from overseas. Just hearing her story makes me really really happy for her. Wishing her and her baby to live a very healthy and joyful life ❤ It's really heartwarming hearing that her mother helped her and planned how to tell the news to her father and also that the father didn't mind it as long as she was healthy too
I salute you sayuri, for womon with menstrual condition, and aging this is our future we are adjusting in our society
OMG Zen looks like Bentley Hammington! He's so lovely. Sayuri made a great decision, hope she and Zen will have a great life ahead.
As a woman, So proud of her to have the strength and courage to go out and speak freely. She has my totally admiration. ❤️❤️
I can't wait to see her appearance with her kid in The Return of Superman🔥
I hope this helps single parents be looked at more positively in Korea.
He is so cute, he looks a little like Bentley Hammington when he was born
So happy and proud of her 👏🏻❤️ I have the plan to do the same if I’m not married by my 29 birthday 👏🏻👏🏻💃🏻She’s so strong and wanted a family so bad that she went after her dream despite everything. Her son will be so love❤️
Girl ,sayuri is her 40 s, that why she wanted to have a baby, but 29 year it's still young enough to get married and others stuff, I will have understand for mid 30s
@@ronabae3508 it’s my plan of life to start a family around 29-32 with or without a husband.
@@Miss1894 I am 30 and still not married..
I get jelly that her have such great parent that open mind with things like this.. 🥺
i think your a great advocate for single who wanted only a child. It does affect the child but hey if your a great mom i think your child will grow up well...
The people there really need this show, it's shocking how the prejudice there led people to demand Sayuri's departure from the show. How absurd.
this is so so so important. good for her for speaking up and being honest. such great awareness for single parents
Sam Hammington even acknowledged Zen as Bentley's look-alike and they really are.
I hope societies and governments be more helpful to single parents out there instead of shunning them due to social status.
I'm so happy for her she looks so happy, so genuine.. Wishing her all the good things and a happy healthy baby ❤️
I love her honesty so much, it's refreshing to see an Asian celebrity talk so openly about things like this without fear and judgement, hopefully her being so open helps society change their mind on single mothers and choosing to raise a child alone ❤😊
Istg i can tell that sayuri and zen would have the strongest mother son bond ever
Zen is truly soooo cute and a blessing and I'm happy that sayuri did what she wanted
I'm happy for her
Such an inspirational queen
I almost teared up watching thia video but sayuri made me laugh
She is really such a strong woman who made very important and right decision for her joy.. I bet being a mom i's a very difficult, exhausting ,time-consuming job. She can really make that hard decision to raise a child by herself alone. She deserves the whole world,brave mom!!
Good for her!! She is a loving mother and that is all that counts!! Much love!! 🙏👍💙
Awwww My heart is sooo touched, I am so glad about how much she wanted to have a baby and I hope she will continue to provide that much love to the baby so the baby can grow healthy
Being a mother is a heavenly gift for me, I have 2 wonderful sons and I am happiest seeing them happy. (It can be stressful at times, I know, still love it)
I am happy for sayuri, I believe she can be a great mother.
Wow this is definitely educational and I certainly appreciate that she is sharing as much awareness about single mothers or parenthood..so wonderful and the baby looks so beautiful. Definitely can see his facial features of his European side. Lovely episode.
Jen is so blessed to have his “single mom” Sayuri.. with the hardships she has to go through to have Jen i just think she really is an exceptional woman! Cheering for you Sayuri!!!
It will be hard for her and her baby from now on because of people's judges especially when her kid starts to go to school. I hope they get stronger to go through every problem together, be healthy and happy 💕
sooo happy for sayuri omg! she always gave off motherly vibes on the 'my neighbor charles' show. also props to her like imagine having to make such a life-changing decision all by yourself. bless her
He looks a little like Bentley!!! So cute~
nvm, a LOT like Bentley! Still so adorable~!!!
hahaha ikr. even sam said that somewhere, i dont remember which show, i think it's from tros
The joke about Sam was too funny. Especially since at first glance I thought little Zen was Bentley as a baby 🤦🏻♀️😂
Yeah, funny joke......what coincidence.
@@hbic3 ?
Thank you for giving her a chance to speak up about her journey & decision ❤️
A media is better this way than leading a bad prejudice againts someone
Wow! ❤️ Lot's of love for her and baby ❤️
Thank you KBS.. You guys did amazing job to open this issue of being a single mom..Sayuri loves her baby so much is matter than what K netizen complaint or talk about.. congratulations Sayuri... You deserved a cute baby.. Happy for you.. ❤️😘👶🏻💖💖💖💖💖💖
Love you sayuri .god bless you. Thankyou very much for inspiring everybody
More power to her. I am rooting to her.
Preciosa mantente saludable... Espero que tu hermoso bebé esté muy bien 😍❤
The nine people who’ve disliked this are the worst.
Such a cute woman !!! Love that she took this journey and wasn't afraid to discuss it !!!
I admire her strength as a woman and now as a mother.
I just knew about sayuri when she is casted in TROS. She's really one amazing woman!! And here, her face looks so happy bragging about her cute baby, so precious! May everything goes well for sayuri and zen ❤❤❤
I was thinking "Zen looks like Betley" and then Sayuri said that she spoke about her pregnancy to not hear rumours like "my son is Sam Hammington's son" xDDDDDDDD
I'm glad she was able to conceive such a healthy child! I appreciate that she is sharing so much about her personal life that not many people would be willing to share. Hope this opens peoples' minds up. I'm Western and don't know many experiences like this!
I have a lot of respect for single parents raising their children. My sister is a single mother of four kids and is a total badass about it.
Sayuri is gonna be amazing
I can't believe it's so surprising for them... It's kinda sad though, 2021 and this is shocking... We really need to learn how to think out of the box, hope someday that day arrives
Birth rate in Japan and Korea have decrease so much, and now Sayuri want kids on her own and people criticize it? What do you guys want exactly
Muito legal ela ter tido coragem pra correr atrás do que quis e ainda expor todo o processo, msm com medo, apesar da controvérsia de seu país... :)
아이구 ..너무 좋아..... ❤️
May you and baby be blessed every single moment, every single day of your lives! May your lights shine brightly always!!🥰
So impressed and proud of her. I know that feeling of the next stage/chapter in a women's life. The dream of becoming a mother to a precious baby. Why wait for a man who's not ready to commit or even may leave and end up marrying another? You have my respect Miss Sayuri! 💜💜
I actually know Sayuri by watching 'My Neighbor, Charles' and only found out that she's a mom in 'The Return of Superman' I was really shocked but most of all I was happy for her and Jen is really so cute 😍💘💘
Do your best Sayuri!! I'll always rooted for you!! 💗 love from PH
She is the best mum, and also brave ,love watching her
A beautiful mother! I’m so proud of her! ❤️
So proud of her and I'm so happy for her, breaking norms and living the life she wants; being a mother.
Wow i'm so happy for her, I really just wish the best for Sayuri and Zen. I hope her decision will change Knezt's stereotypes against single mothers. As a child raised by a single mother, from my childhood to today I always feel grateful to my mom, indeed it must have been difficult but she still managed to properly raise me and give me all the love and attention I needed. That is why I hope that people will not bash out single moms as well as single dads because they are really the best heroes on this planet
omg im so proud of her!! she's so brave and cool
Sayuri is an amazing mom! She really did great job raising her sons
I love this woman, she is brave ♥️ a really good mother
She is what the word "mom" truly means. All the love to sayuri and baby zen.
She is the kind of people who really bring must needed change in the world we live in. Thank you for sharing your journey. I wish you health and happiness with your baby. ❤️
The people who pressed dislike... I feel bad for you due your ignorance and being closed-minded.
Sayuri bisa jadi ibu sekaligus ayah zen.. cintanya berkali2 lipat buat anaknya, salut ❤️❤️❤️ emg ga mudah proses pny anak itu, lewat prosedur medis sekalipun.. apalagi utk wanita lajang.. yg usianya ud lanjut (40an itu susah pny anak) pasti diluar sana byk omongan.. kuat bgt mommy Sayuri.. semoga kelak Zen melihat perjuangan ibunya dan jd anak yg berbakti ❤️❤️❤️
She can tell her child about his father as honest as she could without lying and be conscientially disturbed afterwards.