@@firstlast6437 most people enjoy Venom. Hence the reason people kept going back to see the film in theaters. Not the best comic book film, but nowhere near the worst. It’s pretty average, which isn’t a bad place to be in with all the comic book films that have been made.
This scene brought back so many memories. My late Dad's best friend was a Spitfire pilot and one of "The Few" in the Battle of Britain. He once quietly told the story of his first combat mission - a fighter sweep over Dunkirk in a similar situation to this movie scene. The Luftwaffe was at the top of their game that day and his squadron lost their Squadron leader (captured like Farrier) and two other Spitfires in the quick and deadly hit & run dogfights. My Dad's friend watched his best mate go down with his Spitfire in flames over the Channel - unable to get his canopy open. The mate simply smiled and waved goodbye as his cockpit was suddenly engulfed in flames just before smashing into the water. It was something that still haunted him from 1940 until his passing a few years ago. They truly were "The Few" and all very grand men.
That's what's wrong with all the aviation portions of this movie - all ones and twos, with nobody looking around to see what else is coming at them. Totally unrealistic.
@@danhollenbaugh - Hello Dan. Actually, the flight scenes were fairly accurate in their portrayal. At the time of Dunkirk, RAF Fighter Command flew in large 'V' formations called 'Vics'. The Squadron Leader was normally at the lead with everyone else queueing off of his lead. Unfortunately, these formations and tactics tended to cause the other pilots to fly very close and watch lead (rather than looking around 360 degrees) to avoid collisions. The Luftwaffe would often come in high and fast in quick 'bash & dash' tactics - hit and then gone. IF the RAF got into dogfights or furballs, it just went to crap with everyone running off like a box of wind-up toys in every which direction. Often times, RAF pilots were shot down and nobody else notice the loss since they were busy watching the lead and the formation. This stupidity continued until about July 1940 when the Battle of Britain began and the RAF reconsidered their tactics for the better.
What I'm saying is I don't see any large numbers of any airplanes. Never more than 3 Spitfires, and usually only 2. An He-111 attacking alone? Ridiculous. No "large vic" of Spits approa hing the area, no large formation of Me-109s diving in for a slashing attack, not a single Ju-87, let alone a formation.
@@danhollenbaugh - Understood and agreed. Seems the producers went on the quick and on the cheap. As my Dad used to say: "It's just a film..." No doubt that they airspace over Dunkirk was crowded. But nothing like during the Battle of Britain where 18 or so Spitfires/Hurricanes would find themselves facing 100+ German aircraft. BTW - The Squadron Leader that I mentioned was lost on Jock's first combat mission was Squadron Leader Roger BUSHELL - 'Big X' of The Great Escape from STALAG LUFT III fame. RIP to him, and 'The Fifty'.
@@danhollenbaugh It's the same reason why the Beach is empty, rather than being full of thousands of people like in Atonement (2017), the director wanted practical effects and minimal CGI. I understand the vision, and while it would have been nice to have busy skies as can be seen in the Battle of Britain movie that just wouldn't be possible without either spending a ridiculous amount of money on more props such as more large scale R/C aircraft (He111, Ju87) or using CGI which goes against the directors vision. I think Dunkirk is pretty unbeatable and tells the story it wanted very well, when the biggest complaint is the lack of large formations in the background then I think it's achieved it's goal.
That’s what I love about war movies and shows from the late ‘90s/early 00s. You see soo many familiar faces in Thin Red Line, Private Ryan, BoB, Black Hawk Down.
He knew how to communicate with us with how his emotions flow through the muscles on his eyebrows and his eyes, a reflection of a real RAF pilot would put up during WW2.
Does anyone else find it weird how chill they sound? Lol. They could literally die and they're all like "He's down for the count. Cheerio. All good old chap."
@@DaveRichardsonFitness not everyone is brave, those guys on the ground have been getting squeezed back to those beaches for a while, the commanders are probably getting promotions up the ladder to their previous bosses position and also if you get hit by another airplane you're probably dead before you hit the ground, no point freaking out if you wont even realize you're gone
The plane just gliding with no engine is so evocative. Just gives me goosebumps. My favorite moment in any Nolan movie besides the interstellar climax I think.
@Rubi Avelino top gun has good cinematography but not as realistic but I’m not a navy pilot so I don’t know what a realistic dogfight is but the cobra manouvre wasn’t realistic I don’t think
A friend went into it expecting a conventional war movie and came away disappointed. I see it as a survival movie dressed up as a war movie and as such, it's quite masterful. But the ending brought it around to war movie territory again and it was very moving. Also, Branagh in a key supporting role, 'nuf said.
Apparently based on the experience of New Zealand BoB pilot Flt-Lt Alan Deere! Deere crash-landed his Spitfire on La Panne beach was eventually taken off by a RN destroyer to return to action within 3 days!
Still not sure why Farrier didn't circle back and dead-stick land near the friendlys.. But that would negate the emotion of his heroism I guess. #Movies
I believe the logic behind it was he wanted to keep his plane in the air, and patrolling, until he couldn't possibly anymore. The RAF were specifically instructed to draw the fight as far away from the beach as possible.
I saw Tom Hardy's interview after the release, and appreciated him being very aware of the individuals who actually took part in the conflict. As for his ability to represent a pilot actually dogfighting, is nothing less than brilliant.
I watched Dunkirk for the first time last week. Great movie. I knew Tom Hardy was in the movie before I watched it but wasn’t really looking for him. I loved the pilot sequences and when Ferrier decided not to return to base you knew he was gonna be a hero. When he took off his mask and helmet at the end I definitely had an “OMG, that was Tom Hardy all along” moment. Really hit home how good of an actor he is. Just his voice can carry a character. And the you-don’t-need-to-see-my-face-because-it’s-not-about-me humbleness is very refreshing.
It's because there are no airworthy Ju-87s so the filmmakers had to use large scale models instead. It would have looked really fake having them both in frame at the same time.
Hats down for fantastic depiction of the dogfighting during the time - with all the proper communications, routines, procedures etc..Have hard time to find other movies with same deep insight, or at least well reproduced details of the fighter plane operation / action. Not to mention Tom Hardy's excellence !
Without Tom in this roll I wouldn't have been half as interested. He really played the part with excellence, and as a character gave every ounce he had left.
Over the nine days of operations, the RAF carried out 171 reconnaissance, 651 bombing and 2,739 fighter sorties, losing 177 aircraft, including 106 fighters, bringing the total number of fighters lost in the whole Battle of France campaign to 250. The losses over Dunkirk reduced the strength of Fighter Command to 570 operation fighters; 280 Spitfires and 290 Hurricanes, the latter of which included three squadrons in France.
I love the way he glides the spitfire for about three quarters of an hour when it ran out of fuel, real talent. Also loved seeing the modern roof top terraces clad in glass with potted palm trees along the sea fronts, they really nailed it with this film.
The complete genius of Tom Hardy here is that he appears to be too busy flying the plane to put in a cliché performance, the likes of which we have seen countless times before …
That is an actual Spitfire burning. Nolan was obsessed with historical accuracy in this scene, and this is the result. So sad but so authentic at the same time.
The burning spitfire was a mock up, the spinner and prop are hanging on what looks like a scaffold pole, also the cranes in the background were built in the 1970s
Mad, I was just explaining to my wife, an hour ac=go, why Hardy should have been the first actor who won an Oscar with a performance, largely done without any lines, any only with the top half of his face. Riveting.
Notice how Hardy's character lowers his goggles with the anti-glare lenses above as he closes on the He-111 as it has two gunners capable of firing to the rear and thus the Spitfire might get hit causing fragments and the goggles could save his vision. Nice touch IMO.
Tom Hardy is praise. I seem to be the odd man out. He portrays it like its a boring walk in the park. While he is a flight leader, he needed to at minimum, portray a sense of urgency. I have seen plenty of interviews of pilots. At best very frightened but trying to survive.
Realizing that in 2017 not a whole bunch of flyable Bf-109 variants were available for this film; but why would a single Bf-109 bounce three Spitfires? And what's with the sound of cannon fire as Hardy attacks the first Heinkel? Anyway, great filming and much appreciated.
Even with the impossible, "glider kill" the aerial combat footage in this movie is my favorite. The rest of the cinematography feels so grounded. The planes aren't on rails like they are in most other films.
I always wondered why he couldn't circle back and land close to the allied troops. Seems like he landed in Belgium! Still, what a movie and an amazing character.
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Tom Hardy is such a talented actor, even when his face is covered almost the entire movie he delivers
Same with Bane!
Hollywood hates Hardy's face. Free his face
First part of Mad Max Fury Road as well
Are you sure this is really him?
Maybe everytime it is another actor, because noone has ever seem his whole face ... 😉
The role He has played in dark night is quite remarkable
I knew there was a reason I loved Farrier as soon as I saw him, then he took off his helmet at the end and I was ashamed I didn’t figure it out sooner
No one cared who I was until I put on the helmet.
For real though I love Farrier from the start because I know he's being played by Tom Hardy lol
Doesnt he reveal his face sooner in the movie?
@@m33tballa if he did I didn't see it
@@spacejesus6581 yeah rigHt at the start, but i only noticed on re-watching
Same happened to me !
Tom has the most expressive eyes ❤
Sorry, but he’s gay.
Just like you
because it is based in truth.
bane saves the day crashing all the planes
Alfie Solomons hehehe
With no survivors
@@danat4914 There always has to be one in the wreckage.
Fine comment this
If he pulls that mask off, will he die?
Love how they even thought about the planes vibration affecting his voice.
Nice catch! I never realized it was the plane's vibration, always thought it was just garble from the intercom.
The scenes were filmed in an airborne plane, so the vibration was real during the recording and not added after
2012: Villain (Bane)
2017: Hero (Farrier)
2018: Anti-Hero (Venom)
Yeah but uhhhhhhhhh Venom is a terrible movie if im being honest and should never be on the same list as the other two. :)
2015: Loner Hero (Mad Max)
@@firstlast6437 most people enjoy Venom. Hence the reason people kept going back to see the film in theaters. Not the best comic book film, but nowhere near the worst. It’s pretty average, which isn’t a bad place to be in with all the comic book films that have been made.
And hes in fookin peakey blinders 🤵
Alfie
This scene brought back so many memories. My late Dad's best friend was a Spitfire pilot and one of "The Few" in the Battle of Britain. He once quietly told the story of his first combat mission - a fighter sweep over Dunkirk in a similar situation to this movie scene. The Luftwaffe was at the top of their game that day and his squadron lost their Squadron leader (captured like Farrier) and two other Spitfires in the quick and deadly hit & run dogfights. My Dad's friend watched his best mate go down with his Spitfire in flames over the Channel - unable to get his canopy open. The mate simply smiled and waved goodbye as his cockpit was suddenly engulfed in flames just before smashing into the water. It was something that still haunted him from 1940 until his passing a few years ago. They truly were "The Few" and all very grand men.
That's what's wrong with all the aviation portions of this movie - all ones and twos, with nobody looking around to see what else is coming at them. Totally unrealistic.
@@danhollenbaugh - Hello Dan. Actually, the flight scenes were fairly accurate in their portrayal. At the time of Dunkirk, RAF Fighter Command flew in large 'V' formations called 'Vics'. The Squadron Leader was normally at the lead with everyone else queueing off of his lead. Unfortunately, these formations and tactics tended to cause the other pilots to fly very close and watch lead (rather than looking around 360 degrees) to avoid collisions. The Luftwaffe would often come in high and fast in quick 'bash & dash' tactics - hit and then gone. IF the RAF got into dogfights or furballs, it just went to crap with everyone running off like a box of wind-up toys in every which direction. Often times, RAF pilots were shot down and nobody else notice the loss since they were busy watching the lead and the formation. This stupidity continued until about July 1940 when the Battle of Britain began and the RAF reconsidered their tactics for the better.
What I'm saying is I don't see any large numbers of any airplanes. Never more than 3 Spitfires, and usually only 2. An He-111 attacking alone? Ridiculous. No "large vic" of Spits approa hing the area, no large formation of Me-109s diving in for a slashing attack, not a single Ju-87, let alone a formation.
@@danhollenbaugh - Understood and agreed. Seems the producers went on the quick and on the cheap. As my Dad used to say: "It's just a film..." No doubt that they airspace over Dunkirk was crowded. But nothing like during the Battle of Britain where 18 or so Spitfires/Hurricanes would find themselves facing 100+ German aircraft. BTW - The Squadron Leader that I mentioned was lost on Jock's first combat mission was Squadron Leader Roger BUSHELL - 'Big X' of The Great Escape from STALAG LUFT III fame. RIP to him, and 'The Fifty'.
@@danhollenbaugh It's the same reason why the Beach is empty, rather than being full of thousands of people like in Atonement (2017), the director wanted practical effects and minimal CGI. I understand the vision, and while it would have been nice to have busy skies as can be seen in the Battle of Britain movie that just wouldn't be possible without either spending a ridiculous amount of money on more props such as more large scale R/C aircraft (He111, Ju87) or using CGI which goes against the directors vision.
I think Dunkirk is pretty unbeatable and tells the story it wanted very well, when the biggest complaint is the lack of large formations in the background then I think it's achieved it's goal.
Tom looks great with a mask anytime
I loved his character without knowing he was Tom Hardy! 😅😍
Same here
Same as that 👍
they have got to be the most beautiful planes ever, they look like they just belong in the sky
Omggggg fr I love those aircraft. I look forward to the day I'll have saved enough money to buy at least a replica P-51, if not a Spitfire, to fly
Listening to the radio chatter from WW2 is wild how calm and professional those fellas were and Tom Hardy nailed it.
Saw Tom Hardy for the first time in Band of Brothers, small part. Man, did that show kickstart alot of careers!
That’s what I love about war movies and shows from the late ‘90s/early 00s. You see soo many familiar faces in Thin Red Line, Private Ryan, BoB, Black Hawk Down.
He knew how to communicate with us with how his emotions flow through the muscles on his eyebrows and his eyes, a reflection of a real RAF pilot would put up during WW2.
" No no... fairly confident it's just the gauge "
Does anyone else find it weird how chill they sound? Lol. They could literally die and they're all like "He's down for the count. Cheerio. All good old chap."
That’s what they were honestly like. Men were men back then.
@@samcad-ho3ze the rest of the characters in this, including the commanders on the pier and Cillian Murphys character, spend the whole time scared
@@DaveRichardsonFitness not everyone is brave, those guys on the ground have been getting squeezed back to those beaches for a while, the commanders are probably getting promotions up the ladder to their previous bosses position and also if you get hit by another airplane you're probably dead before you hit the ground, no point freaking out if you wont even realize you're gone
@@DaveRichardsonFitness How they were back then. Cheerio.
Are you British? It’s what we do.. we’ll fucking kill you and then retire for tea
My favourite timeline, the air. They're both so calm and in control, even when the things go south.
2:22 that hit sound 👍
The plane just gliding with no engine is so evocative. Just gives me goosebumps. My favorite moment in any Nolan movie besides the interstellar climax I think.
Most relistic pilot flying on cinema
@Rubi Avelino that's not going to be realistic
@Rubi Avelino top gun has good cinematography but not as realistic but I’m not a navy pilot so I don’t know what a realistic dogfight is but the cobra manouvre wasn’t realistic I don’t think
@@DenienN Well all the combat is done using actual fighter aircraft, so it's about as realistic as you're gonna get for a film.
@@drrickmarshall1191 it's a movie made in Hollywood. Of course it won't be realistic.
@@DenienN You were so very wrong
That scene where the spitfire is hovers and the pilot is cheering is beautiful
An incredible film. Lest we forget their sacrifice.
don't ever forget
@@bobbydouglass1813, I won't.
One of those rare gems that had me locked in the first 5 minutes and kept me on the edge of my seat throughout. Great film!
A friend went into it expecting a conventional war movie and came away disappointed. I see it as a survival movie dressed up as a war movie and as such, it's quite masterful. But the ending brought it around to war movie territory again and it was very moving. Also, Branagh in a key supporting role, 'nuf said.
Tom Hardy in Legend is the best performance he has ever had. He should have won two Oscars for his dual roles.
100%
Tom is looking so great
I saw this at the theater. Such a great performance!
Literally the whole movie for me. It’s a great movie, but this cut is a masterpiece to itself.
Apparently based on the experience of New Zealand BoB pilot Flt-Lt Alan Deere! Deere crash-landed his Spitfire on La Panne beach was eventually taken off by a RN destroyer to return to action within 3 days!
I think his book was "Pilot on the run"
Imagine watching this masterpiece and having not watched the revenant, and to top it off, never seeing Dark Knight Rises.
Still not sure why Farrier didn't circle back and dead-stick land near the friendlys.. But that would negate the emotion of his heroism I guess. #Movies
I believe the logic behind it was he wanted to keep his plane in the air, and patrolling, until he couldn't possibly anymore. The RAF were specifically instructed to draw the fight as far away from the beach as possible.
@@drrickmarshall1191 that and without power, for him to pull a tight turn he’d maybe stall out and fall like a rock
He was too low and slow,he would stall
Because there's gliding, and then there's plummeting
Turns cost height, a feature of many air disasters. If the character felt he lacked the height to make the turn I'm not gonna judge it.
Can't believe I still haven't seen this film!
Ok, This movie has been creepin' around my Netflix previews. I be watching it TONIGHT
How was it?
It's a bit triggering.
Its a good film
Cinema at its zenith, that 70mm pure cinematography
This will be one of those movies people will appreciate more as time goes on. Stunning and original. A true work of Art from a master of Film.
Sorry the film is shit.
actors who are willing to cover their face for most/all of a film gain respect with me, Tom Hardy is a beast.
I saw Tom Hardy's interview after the release, and appreciated him being very aware of the individuals who actually took part in the conflict. As for his ability to represent a pilot actually dogfighting, is nothing less than brilliant.
Frieden, Freiheit, Freude, Glückseligkeit und Wohlstand für alle Menschen
Mate, he makes it so enjoyable to watch. RESPECT TO OUR BOYS
Tom Hardy....One of the finest actors working today....
Really is one of them movies you need to watch more than once to Really appreciate it!!!
I was watching this movie high, tom hardys intense eyes in these scenes just killed me
0:36 if I could explain how much this moment made me jump in the theater... One of the most memorable cinema experiences I've ever had.
I love Tom Hardy
Yes my other half only watched this film for his 5 minutes but I got her to understand a bit of history so thanks Tom
the silent spitfire moment was one of the finest scenes i'd ever laid eyes on. I was awestruck, dropped in my seat.
He is amazing 💕💕💕
Best fighter pilot acting of all time. Noone else beats him. And i’ve seen them all even the oldies.
Yeah absolutely, Nolan should do a remake of ‘The Battle of Britain’
I watched Dunkirk for the first time last week. Great movie. I knew Tom Hardy was in the movie before I watched it but wasn’t really looking for him. I loved the pilot sequences and when Ferrier decided not to return to base you knew he was gonna be a hero. When he took off his mask and helmet at the end I definitely had an “OMG, that was Tom Hardy all along” moment. Really hit home how good of an actor he is. Just his voice can carry a character. And the you-don’t-need-to-see-my-face-because-it’s-not-about-me humbleness is very refreshing.
Love this
One of my favorite actors. He works hard at it.
This is such an incredible movie.
It was rubbish. Loved the scene when the fake Spitfire was burning on the beach and you could see the scaffold pole holding the propeller.
I love how professional they are - even in dire straits.
love it!
Dude of course its Tom hardy just being a ultra bad ass
What a beautiful performance. Michael Caine's couple of lines as the downed squadron leader weren't captured here but are also excellent .
Cinema at its highest!!!!
Intense. Wow!
"now, what's the next step of your master plan?"
"crashing this plane"
His kill of the stuka without any fuel is amazing iven if we didnt see the kill itself
Yeah, it’s weird how we never saw the kill but it would have spoiled the big reveal I guess
It's because there are no airworthy Ju-87s so the filmmakers had to use large scale models instead. It would have looked really fake having them both in frame at the same time.
Hats down for fantastic depiction of the dogfighting during the time - with all the proper communications, routines, procedures etc..Have hard time to find other movies with same deep insight, or at least well reproduced details of the fighter plane operation / action. Not to mention Tom Hardy's excellence !
Do u feel in charge?
Heroes.
One of the best actors of our time
Without Tom in this roll I wouldn't have been half as interested. He really played the part with excellence, and as a character gave every ounce he had left.
la mejor escena de la pelicula simplemente genial
Over the nine days of operations, the RAF carried out 171 reconnaissance, 651 bombing and 2,739 fighter sorties, losing 177 aircraft, including 106 fighters, bringing the total number of fighters lost in the whole Battle of France campaign to 250. The losses over Dunkirk reduced the strength of Fighter Command to 570 operation fighters; 280 Spitfires and 290 Hurricanes, the latter of which included three squadrons in France.
This movie makes it seem like nobody from the RAF bothered to turn up except these guys.
I love the way he glides the spitfire for about three quarters of an hour when it ran out of fuel, real talent.
Also loved seeing the modern roof top terraces clad in glass with potted palm trees along the sea fronts, they really nailed it with this film.
Probably one of the few films where we here Hardy using his English accent
Watching in4K on my 65" 4K TV in amazing
My Uncle was a Spitfire fighter pilot and so was my Mum's cousin !
Mad Max: Fury Skies
Fury airways
Brilliant script & direction!
When the He-111 suddenly opens up with that heavy sound of the 20 mm cannon...
Or how Farrier managed to melt his Spitfire's cast alloy Merlin engine block... with a Very flare...
Sounds even heavier than that, like a 45mm
The complete genius of Tom Hardy here is that he appears to be too busy flying the plane to put in a cliché performance, the likes of which we have seen countless times before …
If only the combat was this good in masters of the air 😕
😍
Mickey Fisher సిర
That is an actual Spitfire burning. Nolan was obsessed with historical accuracy in this scene, and this is the result. So sad but so authentic at the same time.
The burning spitfire was a mock up, the spinner and prop are hanging on what looks like a scaffold pole, also the cranes in the background were built in the 1970s
Mad, I was just explaining to my wife, an hour ac=go, why Hardy should have been the first actor who won an Oscar with a performance, largely done without any lines, any only with the top half of his face. Riveting.
Lovely to see Bane striking fear into the heart of the Luftwaffe.
As a true British gentlemen he views the Germans as more of a nuisance. lol
We all do. We still do!
Real hero
2:28 Imagine the horror to see this in real life, shooting at you
"Yet these men fight and die" so do not mess about.
I love Tom Hardy... no homo
Still upper lip was my takeaway from that wonderful film!!! 👍👍
Notice how Hardy's character lowers his goggles with the anti-glare lenses above as he closes on the He-111 as it has two gunners capable of firing to the rear and thus the Spitfire might get hit causing fragments and the goggles could save his vision. Nice touch IMO.
holy shit thats tom hardy? they guy can literally play any role
What a f-c-in movie!
Tom Hardy is praise. I seem to be the odd man out. He portrays it like its a boring walk in the park.
While he is a flight leader, he needed to at minimum, portray a sense of urgency.
I have seen plenty of interviews of pilots. At best very frightened but trying to survive.
His character was the real hero of this movie.
Tom did a great job in ''the Revenant'' and ''Peaky Blinders'' among other works he has done
Realizing that in 2017 not a whole bunch of flyable Bf-109 variants were available for this film; but why would a single Bf-109 bounce three Spitfires? And what's with the sound of cannon fire as Hardy attacks the first Heinkel? Anyway, great filming and much appreciated.
Tom Hardy mumbling in a mask = peak 2010s cinema
Fantastic actor . Hope he can get past his problems
Farrier and collins were great characters in this film
I keep waiting for Pink Floyd's "The Thin Ice" song to kick in after the Stuka made its attack dive.
Sumpah dari vindes gw lgsg otw
Even with the impossible, "glider kill" the aerial combat footage in this movie is my favorite. The rest of the cinematography feels so grounded. The planes aren't on rails like they are in most other films.
People dropping by to praise Toms performance.
The truth is, no one cared who he was till he put on the mask.
Some of these scenes I've never seen before. I wonder if it's a director cut?
I always wondered why he couldn't circle back and land close to the allied troops. Seems like he landed in Belgium! Still, what a movie and an amazing character.