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This is not the «unnecessary complex» furnace, this is the *perfect* furnace. You have total control over the pressure and temperature, unlike other solutions where IC tries to compensate one another. Hands down the best setup, I don't know how you can improve this since it works 99% accurately.
Yeah i agree this is not even over engineered its just the right amount of engineered that it functions flawlessly and its actually possible to build in survival.
I have set this up on my Mars play through and once I ironed out a few hic-ups I ran into in dealing with a cold start, this set up has been amazing. Nice job! However, if you were to do a "How to Set up" guide I would advise to make sure to start with what I ran into on a "cold start". I just had my H2 and O2 supply lines coming in at room temperature (21c). So at the start I had... Hot O2 tank (5Mpa/20~C) (Had some O2 but was cold) Furnace (empty) (0pa/0tmp) Combusted Fuel Tank (empty) (0pa/0tmp) Hot Waste (empty) (0pa/0tmp) Cold Waste (empty) (0pa/0tmp) The system hung waiting for a cold furnace to heat up the O2 before it could make the Hot Fuel line. I would imagine the quickest fix for this would be to fire up the furnace before sealing it in the furnace chamber and bathing it in O2, but I did not do that and ended up blowing up the whole thing in a glorious fireball.
Bro, your math is on point. Watching that temp not move as the pressure increased was nothing short of art. Very nice! A small addition you can input any number of variables to an ic, simply have it set a request value on its setting that any number of other ICs will react to to set a variable to a memory chip or vice versa it sets a request to a memory chip that is met with a value pasted to its setting. With the limited lines of code i cant see this being necessary very often but it certainly has a place. Especially in crafting or auto smelting. Ive done a setup myself on the workshop when i was first learning mips from Mick. Im Korin there. I have the mars precision furnace and the AIMeE unchained saves up. Soon ill have a Venus furnace setup with at least 2 gfgs. That base will eventually be fully automated with AIMeEs and rockets. Ill update the workshop with each system i finish to share 😊
dude i loved your furnace setup! :D been tearing it down trying to figure it out! Can't wait for your next thing. The main restriction on my furnaceController was line limitations and variable limit. i spent a couple of weeks reviewing every line trying to squeeze out as much as possible. there just want room for any sort of communication logic. all the screwes was occupied, so i had to get two values into the controller trough db setting and i had to distinguish and assign them without failing if there isn't any values, with just 6 lines. the struggle was real. :P
@@Elmotrix you've set the bar high with PID controllers. They are obscenely unnecessary but its like damn i know i can do it and its so cool. My mars furnace is obviously not PID, but it was my first real crack into MIPS. Ive learned a lot since then so the venus setup will be a bit more impressive i hope
Loved your videos on the gas generator, and was eager for the furnace one, didn't disapoint, at all! Excelent work. Would be very interesting to see a how to set it up video. Btw, i'm the kind of people who would definitely do this on a survival scenario =P
Can't believe how genious you are. Never thought it can be done in this way. And all these formulas. You work with them like breathing. Hope you'll get nobel prize one day.
very nice engineering. If i may suggest some more overengineering on top of this :-), you could consider setting up the ingot size and then let it order resources from vending machine, which could be automatically delivered to the furnace. The vending machine may fill up itself from a set of silos, one per each resource type.
woooah, i totally need that how to setup guide if you havent done one already :O i've not yet touched the advanced furnace (it scares me) and having the system control everything and take the user error out, it would be such a blessing
New to Stationeers (I blame ChocoTaco) but kinda addicted already! Loving your detailed builds! Are you a Chemical/Process Engineer or Control Engineer by training? I was looking for the Steam link to this build but the link seems broken… has it been removed or outdated by recent game updates?
That’d be great! Many thanks. I was a Chemical Engineer many moons ago and have long since forgotten everything I learnt about PID controllers so am welcoming the reminders. But I still find myself adding pressure relief systems to all my tanks at the moment. I’ve discovered the pressure regulator and its reverse, but I feel the game could still do with a faster acting PRV.
I have been running into that problem with overfilling ic's. Been trying to find creative ways to moving data around, like using the stack as an array or indirect lookup table (Apparently each ic is given 512 stack depth). By using the lb/sb min/max function to all my ics, I can call them by interval network numbers I assign. Only problem is the ACK (acknowledgments). On single player it works great. Multiplayer seems to lock up a lot. Enough to add to many yields everywhere. Just kind of wish they gave us access to that 512 stack space and make the ic code compile into real byte code. I want to do fancy stuff like self modifying code and such. Going to try this thing on a dedicated server I run to see if it works in multi player. PS - I hate alias's. Yea I use them, but from somone who programed Z80's and ARMs, it hurts my sensibility's. Not mentioning ra and sp. What kind of ic has 18 regesters:P
Excellent! But have a problem with craft waspaloy, the pressure does not exceed 39.56 mpa, unless you go manually putting oxite, which then the interior where the oven is encapsulated to heat the oxygen the temperature rises a lot breaking the iron window.
@@Elmotrix thanks for fast reply, I want to calculate it myself. Or maybe you can share your calculation, for learning purpose. Oh how about k and k+1 (tick and after 1 tick respectively?).
This is not the «unnecessary complex» furnace, this is the *perfect* furnace. You have total control over the pressure and temperature, unlike other solutions where IC tries to compensate one another.
Hands down the best setup, I don't know how you can improve this since it works 99% accurately.
Yeah i agree this is not even over engineered its just the right amount of engineered that it functions flawlessly and its actually possible to build in survival.
I have set this up on my Mars play through and once I ironed out a few hic-ups I ran into in dealing with a cold start, this set up has been amazing. Nice job!
However, if you were to do a "How to Set up" guide I would advise to make sure to start with what I ran into on a "cold start".
I just had my H2 and O2 supply lines coming in at room temperature (21c). So at the start I had...
Hot O2 tank (5Mpa/20~C) (Had some O2 but was cold)
Furnace (empty) (0pa/0tmp)
Combusted Fuel Tank (empty) (0pa/0tmp)
Hot Waste (empty) (0pa/0tmp)
Cold Waste (empty) (0pa/0tmp)
The system hung waiting for a cold furnace to heat up the O2 before it could make the Hot Fuel line.
I would imagine the quickest fix for this would be to fire up the furnace before sealing it in the furnace chamber and bathing it in O2, but I did not do that and ended up blowing up the whole thing in a glorious fireball.
Bro, your math is on point. Watching that temp not move as the pressure increased was nothing short of art. Very nice!
A small addition you can input any number of variables to an ic, simply have it set a request value on its setting that any number of other ICs will react to to set a variable to a memory chip or vice versa it sets a request to a memory chip that is met with a value pasted to its setting.
With the limited lines of code i cant see this being necessary very often but it certainly has a place. Especially in crafting or auto smelting.
Ive done a setup myself on the workshop when i was first learning mips from Mick.
Im Korin there. I have the mars precision furnace and the AIMeE unchained saves up.
Soon ill have a Venus furnace setup with at least 2 gfgs. That base will eventually be fully automated with AIMeEs and rockets. Ill update the workshop with each system i finish to share 😊
dude i loved your furnace setup! :D been tearing it down trying to figure it out! Can't wait for your next thing.
The main restriction on my furnaceController was line limitations and variable limit. i spent a couple of weeks reviewing every line trying to squeeze out as much as possible. there just want room for any sort of communication logic. all the screwes was occupied, so i had to get two values into the controller trough db setting and i had to distinguish and assign them without failing if there isn't any values, with just 6 lines. the struggle was real. :P
@@Elmotrix lol ive been there, sitting at an ic editor for hours scratching my head lol
@@Elmotrix you've set the bar high with PID controllers. They are obscenely unnecessary but its like damn i know i can do it and its so cool.
My mars furnace is obviously not PID, but it was my first real crack into MIPS. Ive learned a lot since then so the venus setup will be a bit more impressive i hope
Absolutely perfect. This is the one FINAL solution that rules them all. This is my new favourite to build on survivals, thanks !
Loved your videos on the gas generator, and was eager for the furnace one, didn't disapoint, at all! Excelent work. Would be very interesting to see a how to set it up video. Btw, i'm the kind of people who would definitely do this on a survival scenario =P
this is a work of art
you are one insanely smart man
Can't believe how genious you are. Never thought it can be done in this way. And all these formulas. You work with them like breathing. Hope you'll get nobel prize one day.
That's amazing!
super cool
End level matherial art!
Im very much enjoying your content mate 😊 can you do a let's play series sometime? That would be awesome!
very nice engineering. If i may suggest some more overengineering on top of this :-), you could consider setting up the ingot size and then let it order resources from vending machine, which could be automatically delivered to the furnace. The vending machine may fill up itself from a set of silos, one per each resource type.
woooah, i totally need that how to setup guide if you havent done one already :O
i've not yet touched the advanced furnace (it scares me) and having the system control everything and take the user error out, it would be such a blessing
everything you need can be found here: steamcommunity.com/workshop/filedetails/?id=2432836366
including a video :)
@@Elmotrix Could you please share the codes elsewhere rather than Steam? It won't let non Steam players use your work.
@@salarshafiee7409 how did you get the game without steam?
@@salarshafiee7409 Caught red handed
New to Stationeers (I blame ChocoTaco) but kinda addicted already! Loving your detailed builds! Are you a Chemical/Process Engineer or Control Engineer by training? I was looking for the Steam link to this build but the link seems broken… has it been removed or outdated by recent game updates?
Control engineer 🙂 this is version 1 really. After a game update a while ago it got simplified. But code still up to date, I'll update the link.
That’d be great! Many thanks. I was a Chemical Engineer many moons ago and have long since forgotten everything I learnt about PID controllers so am welcoming the reminders. But I still find myself adding pressure relief systems to all my tanks at the moment. I’ve discovered the pressure regulator and its reverse, but I feel the game could still do with a faster acting PRV.
Im speechless
I have been running into that problem with overfilling ic's. Been trying to find creative ways to moving data around, like using the stack as an array or indirect lookup table (Apparently each ic is given 512 stack depth). By using the lb/sb min/max function to all my ics, I can call them by interval network numbers I assign. Only problem is the ACK (acknowledgments). On single player it works great. Multiplayer seems to lock up a lot. Enough to add to many yields everywhere.
Just kind of wish they gave us access to that 512 stack space and make the ic code compile into real byte code. I want to do fancy stuff like self modifying code and such. Going to try this thing on a dedicated server I run to see if it works in multi player.
PS - I hate alias's. Yea I use them, but from somone who programed Z80's and ARMs, it hurts my sensibility's. Not mentioning ra and sp. What kind of ic has 18 regesters:P
Yes please please please do a step by step build & program for us idiots.
already did :) it's a video up on my channel
Excellent! But have a problem with craft waspaloy, the pressure does not exceed 39.56 mpa, unless you go manually putting oxite, which then the interior where the oven is encapsulated to heat the oxygen the temperature rises a lot breaking the iron window.
Have you checked your tanks? Sounds like you're running out of gas.
@@Elmotrix Yes, have oxigen and h2 in tanks
@@sebastianventosinos4033 the waste & coolant tank
@@Elmotrix Waste have +25MPa and cool tank 0MPa
@@sebastianventosinos4033 get some cold gases in there :)
ure great
This is just crazy sad that the world link is unavaible..
What is c in nc
h in nh
w in nw
and so on?
explain to me please.
probably cold, hot and waste
@@Elmotrix thanks for fast reply, I want to calculate it myself.
Or maybe you can share your calculation, for learning purpose.
Oh how about k and k+1 (tick and after 1 tick respectively?).
@@TheBrookemarley correct. You on the stationeers discord? You can find me there, pm me and I'll give you all i got 😉
@@Elmotrix thank you
yeah I hate maths to begin with, so fuck that!
sick furnace though