Naruto is Mid? 🗑️DUMPSTER DIVE🗑️
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- Naruto may be the most shonen anime to ever shonen, but does it deserve to have the dreaded label of "mid"?
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My biggest hot take in anime is that new anime fans should venture outside of Shonen I’d they want something other than the tropes that work in shonen.
I've been watching anime since around 1999 (started with pokemon), and I've experienced many different types and genres. But at the end of the day, Shonen is still my favorite genre. It's why I still religiously read Shonen Jump on the Viz app every Sunday.
@@Morgil27 I love it too. But people need to venture out more. They become stagnant and they are going to complain when they’ve been given more
@@Morgil27 Shounen isn't a genre. It's a demographic.
@@SukiNoKoe it’s both tbh. Genre names tend to come from demographics. I.e boy toy etc.
@@nexusgiga uh no. Shounen is not a genre lol
*My hot take for Dumpster Dive:* I think the real reason people hate Makoto from School Days so much isn't necessarily because he's a cheater, but rather that his character felt like a betrayal. I mean, let's face it, there are other anime characters who have done WAY worse things but Makoto's hated a lot more. Makoto at first was a very relatable character (a teenager who has little to no experience with the opposite sex), so at first we're rooting for him to get the girl he's crushing on. But then to see him turn into a scumbag is like a punch to the gut for those who felt a connection due to the relatability.
Hmm, I like this take. In the end he didn't only betray his close friend, his crush and many other girls, but all of us.
He got a fine death . Can't ask for more.
You're absolutely right. Though I didn't get any enjoyment from his death like other people in the internet seem to do. I mean yeah, he was a scumbag but he was also a teenager. He could've realized his mistakes and become a better person with time. He didn't deserve to die.
I first came across Trigun by accident, if memory serves. I the. Found out that Johnny Young-Bosch was the VA for Vash, and I put in my top 5 now. Mostly because that was, from what I heard, his first VA gig, and I’ve watched plenty of other shows where he shows up as one character or another, and it’s pretty amazing to see how far he’s grown in that industry.
Naruto really suffered hard to not having much in the way of a lack of planning. From deciding years in to introduce an elemental system (and acting like it's too advanced to teach the ninja equivalent of Pokemon typing to children) to killing off a huge chunk of the cast and having magic bring them back to life (when we had absolutely no indication it was a thing prior) to the incredible amount of foreshadowing that was either missing or so on the nose the readers/viewers called it years ahead of time. But it did enough right to inspire tons of far better series so I can very much appreciate it's creation and while I would never reread/rewatch am glad it came out.
remember when both Digimon the movie and Shrek shared the same soundtrack? scary times indeed.
Naruto is like one of those dreams you wake up from. The experience varies from night to night but every time you try to recount it into a cohesive narrative it sort of falls apart under its own weight.
It’s funny you say dream because the main villain of naruto basically wanted to put everybody under a spell that puts them into a dreamworld where they experience the reality they desire the most. I like to think that’s how the series ended because the current state of the naruto franchise is just a shadow of what it used to be.
Regarding the violence Jack episode I feel like the obvious answer is to make it a patreon exclusive that way you don't have to worry as much about sensors
He already reviewed Violence Jack years ago, but took the episode down. You'll have to look pretty hard to find it these days but it's worth it.
@@BuzzMandrill it’s technically not a real review, more a short film disguised as a review. He doesn’t use any clips or talk that much about his feelings on it. The whole point of the video was how he COULDN’T do a proper review of it.
If he does make another video on it, maybe it will be a more traditional review.
The videogames got me to watch the anime. Most of my enjoyment of it probably comes from me being new to the medium at the time.
Same scenario for me. Besides Pokemon it's the first anime I can remember getting attached to. I still have fond memories of it but trying to rewatching it just for the fun of it was more difficult that I remember.
I think I might've known about the games and then we got a VHS in the mail Phelous covered this year that talked about the Pokemon anime, we were hooked for a time
In school , it was the game of thrones when ash started the Pokemon league. Good memories. I remember when the card was big , that they were mugging people for them. Most didn't even know how to play the card game.
What he's saying is that the Pokemon BRAND is stronger than any medium it's tied to. It's not necessarily a gateway drug to anime. It's just popular on its own.
Same here. I wasn't even aware of the anime until i flipped to upn one weekday morning at 7am. and the anime was apparently out before the video games in the US.
Here's a hot take, I liked the Violent Jack "review" you already did. I had no idea what the movie was until I saw your video and got me to watch them just to see what all the fuss was that you were making, and after watching them I can understand why there wasn't really much to talk about it and still have the video up. It's a series you have to experience for yourself
And one you can never really describe as anything other than generally unpleasant.
I didn't like it at all but he said sometime ago that he enjoyed making it so that's nice I guess.
Given the fact he built up him doing a review of Violent Jack for months then posted a self-pitying video where he whines about how people expect him to do the thing he promised, I found it to a letdown.
@@a.dennis4835I wasn't there for the build-up, so it doesn't really bother me
Manga and Anime's influence on international audiences. When your local public library has all of Vinland Saga, Battle Angel Alita, and started carrying Spy x Family. When there are plenty of books with titles that say "How to draw Manga style". When there are DVD rentals of Miyazaki films and Rintaro's Metropolis.
The simple understanding that a fun complete mess is still achieving the goal of entertainment is really need in a lot of genres. Just because something has imperfections doesn't mean its trash. Sometimes the imperfections make it fun.
Sometimes
This is the internet, something is either a perfect masterpiece or complete irredeemable trash that no one should watch, there are no “guilty pleasures” anymore
Yeah, man. I still enjoy watching 300 from time to time, despite it being a schlocky mess. Sometimes I just want to sit down and laugh at some trash. Heck, 300 is at least visually stimulating.
That's basically my defense for the original Pokemon games.
my hot take: tokusatsu show like kamen rider ultraman and super sentai etc. are the closest we ever gonna get to a "live action anime"
I'll give the manga some respect for Kisame's death scene, that shit was so brutal.
Yeah. He got treated right along with itachi
Hot take: Giant Robo the animation is one of the most beautiful things I’ve seen in a long time in terms of music, animation, etc. You can just feel the love put into it.
My hot take: Giant Robo and what could be its successor Big O would have been better if they DIDN'T include the giant robots. Yes, I am indeed an old school and long time fan of the "Giant Robot" trope going back to the days of Force Five and Tranzor Z. But in those two specific cases, the giant robots actually seem to distract from the more interesting ideas and stories of their respective series.
I am not saying your wrong. Just that it feels like each series would be better served if we didn't keep cutting away to the mech battles.
I don't agree with the last one, BUT, I think it misses something more important: We have a LOT of renewed interest in the older titles, and a lot of youtubers like hazel (who I have a love hate relationship with, as I lived in times she writes about and she hadn't), andKaiserBeamz ' s Kyoto Video series, who focus on old stuff, and we got more niche reviewers (Love The Anime Tea for her coverage of shoujo, which gets forgotten), and instead of dragging the old classics, they're talking about the older shows that would otherwise be forgotten, and keeping them in the anime discussion...
And for a hobby that has the memory of a goldfish, (seriously. When was the last time Nodame Cantibile or Paradise Kiss even crossed someone's mind? Ergo Proxy only recently made a slight blip on people's radar due to it being put on Hulu. Anyone catch season 2 of Made in Abyss? Do you even remember Made in Abyss? Land of the Lustrous? No. ), this is probably MORE important and a MORE important thing to do...
Cause the old stuff needs to have people watch it more than it needs people to just say it's "mid".
I haven't heard of Land Of The Lustrous, I'll check that out.
Happy New Year to you and the Missus, Bennett!
Also, all I can say now with that Violence Jack announcement…VIOLENCE IS COMING
I love that last episode of zone news you were on. I laughed my ass off.
Thanks a lot, man!
@@BennettTheSage heck yeah, keep up the good work!
Hot take:
As time moves on it feels like anime is moving away from actual unique story lines and interesting concepts. To being just cookie cutter Stories being heavy reliance on archetypes and anime tropes. Like how in the early 2000 they were a bunch of harm anime copying Tenshi Muyo, or how the isekai genre is so overpopulated to the point where even the parodies of the parodies.
It all comes down to execution in my opinion you can tell a story with a bunch of overused tropes but if your execution is terrible then the series suffers for it.
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HOW DARE YOU CRITICISE THE STREAMLINE DUB!?!?!?! IS NOTHING SACRED!?!?!?!
EDIT: ALso, the globalization thing: It's not that anime is globalizing and adapting to an international audience, it's globalization that is doing exactly what it was sold as doing back in the 80's and 90's: putting a McDonalds in every country, exporting American values and media to the world at large, and generally making everywhere the same.
80's and 90's anime is more exotic not because it wasn't made for an international audience (most american cartoons from the 80's and 90's had a fair number of Japanese names in the credits. I'm not talking Robotech, Voltron, or the likes, but Thundercats, He-Man, TMNT, etc..) , but because the world is simply far more flat, uniform, and bland...
EDIT EDIT: Think about it. What are we really nostalgic about? The tattoos on Crying Freeman, The mixed bathhouse scenes, the shrine maidens, fox spirits, etc.
Watch more modern yet thoroughly "japanese" series like Mokke or Natsume's book of friends, or how we collectively RAVED about Mononoke. Tatami Galaxy and Bakemonogatari also tend to rank highly amongst us older fans... It's the distinctly "exotic" aspects. (and this kinda disproves the hot take, while, admittingly they are becoming more rare, and the "exotic" is less "exotic".)
Naruto is Mid AT BEST.
Hot Take: I feel that despite SAO’s negative reception, the story arc from season 2, Mothers Rosario, is probably one of the best things that came out of that series. It focuses much more on Asuna than Kirito, we get to see a glimpse into her life after everything that happened in the first season, and it probably has one of the most emotional/beautiful death scenes I’ve seen in awhile. Had it been divorced from series and just been it’s own thing and given more time to expand on the characters, I feel like this could’ve worked better and become a classic in its own right.
The biggest issue with SAO is that the ideas are very relevant to current issues, but the stigma around the series and some clumsy executions means that a lot of people refuse to give it the time of day
Absolutely! The Mothers Rosario Arc was truly the peak of SAO's storytelling. The concept of the Medicuboid allowing terminally ill patients to still live fulfilling virtual lives was inspired, showing the true potential of what the Nervgear/Amusphere technology can really do for humanity; it's not a far jump to get the a full virtual society like in Summer Wars' Oz. It also has by far some of the best character writing in the series, not just showing Asuna at her strongest, but giving much needed depth to all of the returning cast, even Kirito in his brief appearances. And of course, the best written character in SAO, Yuuki, whose finale never fails to leave me bawling like a schoolgirl.
@@ab2aasd Again, I absolutely agree. Watching it through relatively recently, a lot of it rings disturbingly true in the 2020's, even moreso than in 2012 when it was new. I think a big part of why SAO still carries that stigma is that it was one of the first anime series to be hyped through the roof before launch; in a way, it was kinda the Chainsaw Man of its day. But when it failed to meet that hype in the first 3 episodes the public turned against it; far from being a deconstruction of the many overused Battle Royale and Isekai tropes that we'd recognized even back then, it just seemed to be a repeat of those same tropes, thus giving much the audience the exact opposite of what they thought they'd been promised. But despite, or perhaps even because of the rage, SAO's popularity never really died, kept aloft by both those who genuinely liked it and those who hated it, but either way becoming one of those rare series that everyone is still talking about to this day, one of the last of the Golden Age Giants.
@@sirrliv AGREED 100%^w^. That arc alone definitely deserves so much more love, and serves as a reminder of what SAO could’ve been.
@@ab2aasd True, true.
@BennettTheSage
The Netflix Death Note could’ve worked… just not as a movie (Death Note is not a movie concept, per se). It should’ve been a 10 episode series, with each episode lasting an hour. Also, it is still not on the level of Dragonball Evolution; at least Netflix’s Death Note actually had potential and some great things from it (I’ll defend Dafoe’s Ryuk to the last).
yeah, i can see this. drop the name allusions as well and handle them like a seperate story in the same universe and it would be good to go i feel
I still think that FMA deserves to be number 1 anime.
It features many ideologies without feeling of being forced. And it does not have over exaggerated dialog that respect the characters.
Twofold Hot Take:
Highlander: The Search for Vengeance is the only Highlander sequel that matters. I wish we could have more anime films in the style of Yoshiaki Kawajiri, its a real treat.
I'll grant you its a better sequel than the live action ones, but thats such a low bar. The animation is admirable, but the story is repetitive and unoriginal.
@@retroanimemike Low bar or not, it didn't stop it from being rad as hell. The scene where he gets the quickening and blows up the building is super cool.
One of my anime hot takes ( if you can even call it that): anime nowadays is a quantity over quality industry. Think about it, out of all the anime that have been released each season in the past say , 5 years , only like 20% or 15% of it is worth watching or talking about. The rest is either just very mid or straight up trash.
Gonna take the bait and say that the main draw of Knights and Magic is going to be it apareces in SRW, the main character geeking out about the different series was delightful and perfect for the 30 anniversary game
Hot Takes 1& 2:
1- When Hayao Miyazaki Dies, Studio Ghibli will never produce another mega hit movie again. maybe reasonable successes but no ultra blockbusters. (like disney in the late 70's/and 80's)
2- (Slightly ambiguous on being about anime this one) I think most Ani-tubers are lazy when it comes to research on anime history particularly when it come to anime before the 1980's. or they'll just parrot what somebody else barely researched years ago. (case in point Kimba the white lion)
Definetly got to agree on that "ok now means hot take."
Anime hot take: There are still too many anime fans who put Japan on a pedestal purely because "big tits make dick hard". Adding LGBTQ+ characters or having less borderline child porn in an anime doesn't mean it's being "corrupted by western influences". And on that note, I would say that western influences in general are good, actually. My favourite type of media are the ones which have a clear love for a cultural aspect or tradition, like the western influences on Trigun, Cowboy Bebop and Outlaw Star. Western influences add to more diverse and creative stories, rather than being confined to a narrow edgelord ideal of what anime "should" be.
@@thomasffrench3639 Which, I'd say, is part of the problem. That said, there are still plenty of BL and GL stories that aren't sexualised, so that's progress, at least.
@@TheNightmareRider I agree, but it does normalize that behavior, which is a definite positive. I would argue, that it’s probably the only way to normalize it.
Hot Take: Early Western anime fandom was driven in part by the fact that the anime/manga/video game industry commercialized Japanese fandom decades earlier than American corporations did and they were jealous of all the merchandise.
The 2010s will be looked back on as an anime golden age while the 2020's will be seen as a recession back into the darkness away from the mainstream. With the new monetization method of Crunchyroll (and loss of free Hulu back in the mid 2010s), it's MUCH more difficult to find free and legal ways to keep up with new anime. I'm not saying that this is the death of anime, and I do believe that more money going into the industry is good. However, I feel like the current environment is more or less going to stagnate the growth of anime fans as a whole. There will always be people who are willing to pay or pirate, but when those are the 2 main options, I don't see a path to the mainstream.
Happy New Year, Sage!
Hey Bennet, are you going to cover anything from Kyoto Animation, like some of my personal favourites, such as Air, Kanon, both Clannad and After Story, etc? I’d imagine you’d have a field day with them, I’d love to hear your thoughts on them!
Is chalking a Violence Jack episode up as a loss, monetization-wise, feasible? If so, obviously there's plenty that still can't shown, but he could talk about everything that happens, right?
Really looking forward to the Violence Jack review!
My hot take would be that Outlaw Star is the best space western anime. I think it's better than Cowboy Bebop and Trigun. I like all three animes, but I feel like Outlaw Star has the most re-watchability. The other two have a lot more somber tones and it's harder to just put on an episode of one of them and enjoy yourself.
I quite enjoyed Outlaw Star. I'm not sure where'd I'd place it in my list however I have warm, positive feelings toward that anime.
Dunno if you have talked about it yet but have you any thoughts on "Gate"?
I love the premise, it reminds me of playing a Civ game where cavemen attack tanks but it also kinda comes cross as Japanese military propaganda at times to me, abit a bit softer compared to the jingoist stuff you saw out of the US when you guys went into the middle east.
Thoughts?
Also hope you have a fantastic new year :).
Gate is Japanese military propaganda or to say it more accurately, Gate is the Japanese Self Defense Force that can do no wrong and will always be victorious even on foreign soil.
I always seem to brace really hard for the mid to ok takes
And then totally relax for the takes that hit me upside the head like a sledgehammer
Like ducking all the thrown tomatoes only to stand up in time for the Ford F150
4:03 I actually haven't heard anyone talk about SAO in quite a while.
Alright, a real hot take - Samurai Troopers is a freaking classic that deserves to be remembered as fondly as the early anime that overshadowed it. It had everything - bad-ass characters, cool transformations, epic battles, a kick-ass soundtrack - heck, we even got the action figures here in the States! Why has this series been forgotten!? 😭
Sadly, it was overshadowed by it's distant little cousin Sailor Moon.
Ronin Warriors hasn't been forgotten? Its on damn near every streaming platform out there unlike other series of the "classic" types. But I tried to watch it again recently, the story and dialogues don't really hold up. It feels like someone wrote a script for 50+ episodes, only got the money for half that, and the editors didn't have English degrees or experience.
My hot take: many producers today not just in anime but in all media. I feel hire many terrible fan fiction writers for there new movies. I've noticed that many new movies coming stick to a theme that doesn't belong in films or they want something made there way. Regardless of how good or bad the thing there writing is.
As a fanfic writer, I am pleased you included the word "terrible" in there. Fanfiction can be great, if the writer cares enough to improve their craft and learn.
Most of the time I doubt the writers are even fans of the media they're hired to write for, because often time the movies/remakes doesn't even resemble the tone or direction of the original medium.
@@Pheonixess or maybe they are fans but realize that they can’t make the same thing over again or they just do the same thing without making it interesting. I would argue that non fans are actually better at making new stuff.
@@thomasffrench3639 You can argue anything, but all the hollywood or netflix remakes would prove otherwise. The instant a non-fan writes a story, they copy paste events and insert none sense no one wants and contradicts the original media. If you have even 1 example of non-fans making a better remake I'd be surprised.
@@Pheonixess not remakes, but sequels. The biggest example is Andor, and Star Trek 2 and 6. As far as remakes I would say Oceans Eleven.
I can't tell if the dude talking about "suspension of belief" is being sarcastic or not. The general populace didn't think the funny haha coughing bat soup disease was that big of a deal for like 4 months despite the fact that we had camera phones and 24 hour news...
Awesome video man 😎!
Most of Pokemon revenue is from the licensed merchandise and nearly all merchandise is based on the Anime characters and character designs of the Pokemon. Does no one else remember what the original game design of Pikachu looks like? No one is buying that.
For the next Dumpster Dive:
My first experience with Speed Racer what is the Fred Wolf animated American cartoon from the early 90s. The hot takes are:
1. I personally think that show is better than the original Speed Racer anime.
2. For as iconic as the original anime was, the English dub wasn’t great.
The most significant part of SAO I would argue, is where it landed in Western fanbase. While not the first Anime to be simulcast, far from it, it was one of the first to have a sizeable audience while it was airing. Just think, we went from the majority of people not seeing an Anime until it was dubbed, or at least having a sub-only VHS/DVD release, to a good chunk of people watching it while it was still airing in Japan.
Which is also what resulted in it's spotty reputation, as early one it seemed very promising and drummed up a lot of hype, when that wasn't met it quickly soured people on it. Nowadays most people are more cautious of highly anticipated titles, and unlike then, if it doesn't go over well, they just jump onto one of the many other simulcasted shows. Back when SAO came out there was less shows being simulcasted so the attention on SAO continued way past the first seasons final episode. Some talentless CZcamsrs even made a career out of shitting on SAO.
I want another season of Knights and Magic. The main character's enthusiasm for mecha is just so infectious.
HAPPY NEW YEARS SAGE!! In the anime Golden Boy. I can only see Kintaro being with 3 of the BOSS 6 ladies in Golden Boy. Noriko in 3rd episode, Reiko in 4th episode, and Chie in the 6th and final episode. The other 3. I don't see a long term relationship with any of them! Without him getting the AEXED!
I think the biggest issue with the GitS live action film is that it wasn't just trying to adapt the original GitS film, but tried to draw influence from ALL of GitS; both films, both seasons of SAC, Arise, the manga, all of which are wildly thematically different from each other. Top that off with some stale Hollywood tropes for the normies in the board room and the result is... a mess. An enjoyable mess for some, but still a mess.
What I find funny is how Japan is like “it’s okay” but Americans were like “it ruined the original!” I think it’s because Japan puts live action and animation on the same level, but American animation fans have to fight for the legitimacy of animation.
@@thomasffrench3639 That makes too much sense. Pretty much the rest of the world sees animation as just as capable as live action, but in America "cartoons are kid's stuff" despite decades of overwhelming evidence to the contrary (Cool World? American Pop? Who Framed Roger Rabbit? A good chunk of Don Bluth's catalog?). And of course the classic rebuttal to that sort of "ruined the original" moaning is "No it didn't. See? The original is right there, untouched. You can still watch it free of any context from the live action film. Free on CZcams, more often than not." But to someone who whines like that, I would be inclined to ask "Have you even watched the original film?" because I have a feeling that more often than not then answer will range from "...Well, no, but..." to "Yeah, of course I did... years ago, in college..."
@@sirrliv I wouldn’t say the rest of the world. In general animation is seen as for a younger audience like kids to people in their 20s. I think by this point people have kinda accepted animation as a medium like any other. But I do think that they are not considered on the same level as television or books. And the boomers in charge of Hollywood still think live action is better because they can market it easier with the actors. Just my two sense on it.
Will we be getting an Alita: Battle Angel or maybe a Bleach video? I am curious where Alita will go next, as what we got is great but is just the very beginning of the story. You could talk about the first Bleach film, Memories of Nobody, as a condensate of the franchise.
3:46 Oh hey he mentions Knights & Magic. The series that got to be in Super Robot Wars 30. One of the first SRW games that got to have an official US release and one that I hope did really well for them to make more games and include US mechs in the future.
Hot Take: Most anime fans (At least English speaking ones) actually hate ecchi and fan service. Take for instance the overwhelmingly positive reaction and praise of recent rom coms with little to no fan service such as Kaguya-Sama, and Quintessential Quintuplets gets while stuff like Girlfriend Girlfriend, Monster Musume, Interspecies Reviewers, World's End Harem, Girls Bravo, and Hensuki regardless of quality are immediately dismissed as "Trash", and "Fap Bait" Because of their sexual content.
When Naruto started out it was good I'd even dare say great but post timeskip suddenly it became DBZ with Ninjas.
It was always "DBZ" given that's it's influence. People just got off the ride when they couldn't keep playing it off as Ninja Gaiden anymore because the "ninja magic" was real and not hokey smoke bombs tropes about shinobi.
Every shonen is DBZ with ____
"...Every anime nowadays is copying from Naruto". Now I know why I am not really into modern anime anymore. 😕
Hot take: the longer/more complicated the name of the anime, the more likely to be trash. One Piece, good. Bleach, good. Cowboy bebop, great. But then theres shows out there like "I stepped on my dick and now I'm a zombie dragon maid's under pants" and they are all terrible.
I love your tee so much!! 🥰
dunno, i still prefer Naruto to most shounen manga that came after it or were coming out during the same time and thought it's first couple of arcs were solid... i don't care for shounen anime much at all these days, but i quite enjoyed re-reading that first half of the manga a couple years ago
Great video.
I wonder if they gonna give Violence Jack a Devilman Crybaby-style Remake.
Glad to hear you're to the point of considering it. I've grown a lot since then and respect your decision to not review it at the time in ways I didn't use to.
I read the manga as a teenager, and got bored by the time skip (volume 18). I had access to all sorts of manga as a kid because I lived next to a library. By the time I picked up Naruto, I had already read Bleach, One Piece, and even Fairy Tail. I really tried like Naruto, but I was so familiar with the cliches and so uninterested by the characters, that it never grew on me. It didn't help that I started reading the manga after seeing Suburb anime like Cowboy Bebop, Trigun, and Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood and 2003
yeah, i had the same issue with Bleach and Fairy Tail coming to them after Naruto and One Piece. I feel fighting shounen in general are to a lot of people just a genre where you pick your favorites at some point and then you are mostly done with it unless there is a genuinely groundbreaking one coming out later
Also, Shoto fits the angsty rival better. Bakugou is just 100% pure anger at Deku.
Bakugo is a big upgrade to sasuke. Angry rival works
@@Sonicfalcon16 Only because Sasuke was the dumbest character ever put in a anime (unintentionally). Anything is better than how dumb he is. The dude picked the worst option every single f-ing time.
Bakugo is a douchebag, but at least he is not an idiot and also works hard AND IS NICE TO HIS FRIEND! Imagine that.
I hate Bakugo and Sasuke type of edgy characters.
@@Bionickpunk Theyre..They're... very different archetypes.
Agreed. Bakugo is far more based on Vegeta than anyone in Naruto
Berserk could be adapted into something PG-13 rated and wouldn't suffer as a result. All the gore and sexual violence doesn't always detract from the story but it doesn't really add anything either.
Hot take: Sailor Moon Crystal is a cheap and hastily made money grab shamelessly endorsed by it's creator in an attempt to remain relevant instead of adding something profound to the existing franchise or creating something entirely new.
I think tie in anime media to video games can work and be in cannon material as well as not just seem like a cheap cashgrab. For instance the Devil May Cry anime series.
Tales of Symphonia's anime was well adapted too
I think after Naruto every carbon copy anime seems to have the following:
The three archetypes you described.
Large part of the story takes place in an academy of sorts, I mean Naruto is just ninja school. Attack on Titan is some kind of giant slaying school, MHA is superhero school, etc.
Adults are mostly useless yet in positions of power and influence and don't have time to get in world ending battles, some might be badass in sheeps clothing if the plot calls for it.
Older heroes tend to die off... despite being barely middle aged so the kiddos can be the new generation despite being still barely in high school.
I have to laugh at Boruto's progress where Naruto and Sauske had to be nerfed by author just so that the "new gen" can get their power creep on.
Lets be real, anime like that is made to sell products. As MasakoX would say: "MARKETING!"
One thing I liked about One Punch Man where instead of everyone being teens, superhero is an occupation.
uhm you are just describing shonen tropes, not naruto.
Attack on Titan is way closer to Gundam than it is to Naruto.
My hot take: "Maison Ikkoku" is a title people will hate, but when forced to watch, can grow to love.
I got exposed to this series when the only source for the series was fansubbed. One of my friends got bitten by the anime bug, and archived the series just to be complete, but he didn't like the series...until sometime around episode 40 (of the 96 episode series). Likewise, there was another friend who wanted to watch anything (she was laid up with a broken leg), so I gave her the series, and she grew to love it.
My hot take is that Maison Ikkoku is the best Tagahashi series ever. Despite the silly situations, it taps into the basic humanity of (mostly ) ordinary people, even without aliens, martial arts or yokai, which makes them more relatable. I've never related much with Ranma or Inuyasha, but I sure did with Godai.
I watched Perfect Blue for the first time this and came to the realization that anime movies don’t try anymore. I feel like a lot of anime movies at this point are just being created to make a profit for whatever anime series is popular at the time. Majority are creativity bankrupt as they favor spectacle and animation over everything else. There’s nothing wrong with a movie being like that every once in a while, but it becomes a problem with every movie becomes that.
Anime tie in Movies have been ubiquitous for many decades at this point, and at the very least they aren't as oversaturated as they once were, do you know there were 17 Dragon Ball Movies in only 10 years?. And there are plenty of Anime movies from Science Saru and Studio 4°C that are anything but creatively bankrupt.
Oh, Here We Go. I think I should be thrilled to be in this episode, better to be here than to get the Run Around, at least that's The Impression That I Get. I really do think the movie has an All Star soundtrack, though I admit All My Friends Are Metalheads. There's just something neat about the genre's high energy and the fact that they also felt like part of the counterculture (at least where I was). For Kids in America its interesting to get exposure to Japanese culture, but through this highly altered lense. I could probably talk on the film's influence on me for at least One Week straight.
That's as many as I could fit, gold sticker to anyone who can fit The Rockafeller Skank into normal conversation. Genuinely glad to have posed a trash opinion worth pointing out. Have a great new year Sage.
Good to see the dvds in the background again.
Re: Star Trek, for anyone with aParamount Plus account and would like to get into the franchise, I’d recommend looking at Strange New Worlds (which is a TOS prequel but made w 21st venture sensibilities in mind) or the adult animated series Lower Deck, which satires a lot of Trek tropes but I’ve met a lot of people who have enjoyed that one fandom blind.
Here's a hot take I guarantee only I will say.
The Dinosaur Wars Izenborg series or (Attack of the super monsters for Rifftrax fans) desperately needs a full series sub/dub release. We need to know just how crazier it gets.
Apparently, the Saudi royal family are big fans.
Hot Take: Spawn the Animated Series is one of the best adult cartoons ever (despite season 2 & 3 have mixed quality). It has amazing animation, use of shadows, interesting themes, underrated voice acting, it streamlining a convoluted source material, an underrated Shirley Walker soundtrack, and one of Keith David’s best roles.
I would love a violence Jack review
Can you review the Rayearth ova series
Really should have had Black Clover characters in the mix when you were showing how many times the trope was used in popular stories. I think it gets bonus points for having the MC and his best friend/rival both be orphans.
I first became of anime during my middle and high school years during the 1990s when you had to basically watch what was available on the Sci-Fi channel in their anime block, rent what Blockbuster had, or by it on VHS with two episodes per tape (a lot of what drove the early dub-sub argument was that dub VHS was a lot cheaper since it sold a lot more than sub VHS). I remember that many creators of manga and anime were really confused at the early explosion and wondered why American and other non-Japanese audiences would be into something that was so Japanese. Anime's global audience has increased since then, by a lot. A lot of more recent anime does seem to acknowledge this by toning down on the "things you need to have grown up in Japan to really get" or at least making sure that information on these references are achievable by a Google search. I guess an example would be that anime in a high school setting for stuff made in the 80s and 90s really emphasized things like entrance exams while current ones seem more generically high school.
One of the things that really turned on Western anime fans in my era was the use of honorifics for some reason, I always found this kind of odd, and anime of that time really made stronger use of proper use of honorifics. These days the character relationships seem more, not exactly egalitarian, but less dependent on Japanese honorific and social conventions.
I would love for more people to talk about Knight's and Magic. It's a healthy and fun isekai made for mecha nerds and those into mechanical design porn more than anything given that a large portion of the story is dedicated to building mecha which the anime skipped over for the most part. It was never going to be mainstream considering it's not written or paced like a typical action shounen nor is it subversive in anyway, happy to play both fantasy and anime tropes straight as an arrow, but there's nothing wrong with it either. Plus the main character, Erni, even though his abilities are those of an overpowered fanfiction OC, is still effortlessly likable with his enthusiasm for giant robots and also a little scary with how unhinged he can get, making you question just how much he values the lives of those around him despite all the good he's done. He's an interesting switchup from your average dumb pervert or edgeboy protagonist for an isekai. Or at least he was when K&M first came out about a decade ago.
I know you were going for low-hanging fruit, but I do think it's one of the better ones. Plus, given how poorly the anime represented the source material and how unadaptable it is, I really don't think there's anyone that would argue we needed another season.
the clip used at 8:35 ?
I was not ready for that "for the moment, at least". That got a guffaw out of me.
I don't think the set of tropes you mentioned really gets to the heart of shounen as a genre. If anything, the core theme of shounen could be called "saving the universe through personal growth," and that idea is a standard most shows fall horrifically short of, and very few transcend.
I remembered a hot-take at the beginning of the video but forgot about it by the end, and after re-watching the video I still don't remember it... curse my brain who may or may not have ADHD!
Great video Bennett and great to see the love for FNV and hate for the legion lol.
As someone who frequently watched Naruto as a 5th grader and when it stopped airing in Canada read the manga online up until the final chapter.
.... I've nostalgia fondness for characters but I feel nothing for the weak story. Hoard of underdeveloped characters and underwhelming final arcs.
It's a series that you spend time thinking of ways it could be better and not necessarily enjoying it for what it offers.
Anyway...it absolutely is mid to the point where I can't even consider its next gen because of how much the original series disappointed me in the end.
Hot take: These day, I find English dubs on par with subs in terms of acting quality, and prefer the dub especially for action base anime. Not all of us can read fast for varying reasons and it means you can miss the details of what's happening during crucial moments. But people like to scoff and tell me it's because I'm too dumb to read fast... No, if I wanted to read, I'd pick up the manga.
I disagree. However, I will say that subs aren’t as good as elitists claim them to be. People act like they are perfect when they are probably Hollywood acting average, which is still good mind you, but not always a Leonardo DiCaprio.
I like dubs for the simple excuse that I tend to set aside my anime watching time with my weekly folding laundry time. I can't tell you how much of the anime I missed out on when I watched subtitles.
I also agree with though, the voice acting has improved when I started consuming anime in the late 90s.
Has Bennett put the weight back on or is this a repost
Oooh boy, here come the torches and pitchforks
Here's my hot take... Saint seiya did the loner trope who became a villain/hero later on way before DBZ did and did it way better... Saint seiya was way better that midruto
My hot take is: I think that a lot of the anime discourse is about either agreeing with or rebuking culture war bullshit and that's poisoning the well for actually discussion about themes and criticism. For example if someone points out how anime has a problem with sexualizing female characters (especially ones that are underage) your more likey to get into an argument about how your an SJW rather than a conversation about sexism and the male gaze in anime.
Anime was at it's most experimental when every OVA was a PC Engine Game first
I like your shirt!
My hot take is that Detective Conan's arc plot is the least interesting thing about the show, I watch it just for solving the mystery of ludicrously overplotted crimes committed for the flimsiest of motives. Who cares if Shinichi ever busts the evil organization and regains his full size?
Re: Pokemon
Amusingly, the very first episode of the anime opens with what looks like the opening video of the Game Boy game, which then transitions into an anime fight. :-D
Can't remember if I've said it before, but I'm perfectly okay with and would welcome a lot of the 80s and 90s anime I grew up with and love, getting remakes. Outlaw Star chief among them. Also, while it may or may not be 'anime' the original 86' Transformers movie had the greatest soundtrack in cinema history.
Sage please watch ROD TV series,tenamonya voyagers,black lion,maris the choujo,ruins explorer,variable geo,maps,riki oh,mujigen fandora and Shadow skill
Oh man, that's a heck of a title.
I gotta say that we absolutely do NOT need an 'actual' review of Violence Jack.
I completely LOVED your non-review take on it. It told us everything we needed to know about the anime, and an insight into what you were feeling about it. I don't feel it is an anime we need to analyze scene-for-scene, or come away with a complete understanding of what actually is happening in it. No, we need to come away with an understanding of what it is about, and you did that brilliantly, and I loved the creative flair you put on that whole review.
There is so much of that anime you can't show on youtube, so what do you do? Simple, you do not show it, and then you flex your creativity. Brilliant.
I mean, there is merit for wanting to criticise older shows that are held in high regard. Some of my favourite anime are from twenty years ago and they do have some problems but I still hold them near and dear to my heart because they shaped my perceptions of anime and of animation.
I’ve seen a few clip/episodes of naruto and I think it’s fine. not my thing but if you like it that okay but to me it’s is just fine. also love the oingo boingo t shirt
7:48: I guess Bennett just gave us some SAGEly advice....ba dum tish
This is an "Anime Adjacent" hot take related to Sage's opinion of the Ghost in the Shell movie.
Here we go: The opinion that the original Ghost in the Shell is a seminal work of philosophy is bunk predicated on mulitple repeated viewings and hours upon hours of navel gazing as to "what it all means" and colored by the much superior Stand Alone Complex. The truth of the matter is that, on first viewing, Ghost in the Shell is, aside from a precious few high points, excessively long winded and boring. So for a first attempt to be as well put together as the 2017 film is a miracle.
Nostalgia's a lying bitch sometimes.