Mossberg 590A1 Blackwater OKC M7 Bayonet
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- čas přidán 13. 11. 2016
- Table top overview of the OKC M7 bayonet and proper install on a Mossberg 590/590A1. I like how the finish of the shotgun and bayonet match also.
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Random guy: why putting a bayonet on a shotgun? Are we still in ww1?
Me: imagine a hog charging you... and you are out of cardriges. Also its cool
No B.S. I was in a situation where a bayonet would have probably prevented an 8 inch scar on my leg. 300 lb (give or take) hog. I put a slug in him.(Winchester 1300 pump 12) He dropped. I wasn't actually "hunting" that day. Loading bird shot for whatever. I was checking property line after a storm. Only had 1 slug. I walked over to the down hog. Thinking it's dead. It was not. Long story short. I ended up "hand to hand" using my empty shotgun as a club. A bayonet would have been ideal.
It’ll come in handy when you run out of ammo😂
Everyone here post 2020 ammo craze
Someone always has 9mm ammo and shotgun ammo
The 590 with a bayonet looks awesome. More than the AR with the same bayonet, simply because you have this beefy shotgun that has the blade position forward. It just looks intimidating.
Also, the shotgun has such low capacity compared to a modern rifle that the bayonet might actually make more sense on this than the AR, because you're more likely to run out of ammo :P
They come in handy when you're face to face with the enemy and your gun goes "click".... And the older M7 grips are a little shorter.
No that's some home defense bases covered
Bayonet for a shotgun, for when Jerry runs around the corner of your trench and you are in the middle of pumping the shotgun.
Original American or when you step around the corner during a home invasion? Bayonets are handy in CQB
@@aurinsaint9058 a home is just a trench they haven't gassed yet
@@shane8037 well put
I can verify that older M7s will fit without modification. I have an original one made by Conetta and it fits perfectly
Good to know. I bought a Vietnam era M7 and I was wondering if it would fit
Thanks for showing how to mount the bayonet with the #18 o-ring.
I like this model because it has no serrations/sawteeth to snag during a stab.
Great video! 👍
GG&G shotgun accessory. Specifically a sling adapter. Goes right behind the magazine cap.
Absolutely works! Thanks for a great tip. Only one tip for anyone else who reads this. I did this, but the width of the washer was a bit wide, to where it prevented the grip from aligning flush with the mag tube, and thereby, lug and mag. cap. Using a Dremel tool and metal cutting adapter, thinned out the washer where it was obstructing the bayonet grip. Sprayed on a few coats of matte black rustoleum, and voila, perfect fit. Bayonet fits perfect on the lug, mag. cap and grip is nice and snug against the tube. GG&G baby! (The bayonet is the Marine one)
A surplus M7 bayonet is easy to find, better made, cheaper and will fit properly without the O-ring.
Nice review and info on the OKC bayonet and diy simple and cheap solution to the play on the end of the mag tube plug on the end. Very informative
Mossberg really needs to make a cap that is extended a fraction of an inch to fit bayonets properly.
Original M7 had shorter grips, mossberg did nothing wrong on that front. They just need to stick those front sights on straight 100% of the time instead of 90%
@@last_raven Havnt seen any with the sights off but i suppose i havnt looked at a whole lot of them. But changing the magazine cap would fix the issue people have with the bayonet.
Just got my M590-A1 3 days ago. Can't wait to get the bayonet
THANK YOU SO MUCH. BUYING ONE FOR MY NEWLY PURCHASED 590A1 RETRO.
The M-7 bayonet is a Vietnam era bayonet that came out from the M3 trench knife. The M-9 which was adopted in the mid-80s when the M-16A2 came online was first made by Phrobis under contract from Buck and there have been other companies that made the M9 like Lan-Cay but Ontario has had the contract since 2005. The OKC M9 is a great bayonet its just very hard to get a good edge on it but once you do its a good overall knife. The other bayonet currently in the US DOD inventory is the OKC-3S is the USMC currently issue bayonet which replaces the M9 and the Ka-Bar allowing Marines to carry one tool that can do the job of two.
I have all 3 of the bayonets and I personally think the OKC-3S is the better design and the bayonet that I keep in my plate carrier with my loadout. I was issued a M9 but I much rather use the 3S with either my ARs as well as my 590.
You are 100% right. Back in the 80's when I was in, the M-7 is what we were issued, not just to those of us with the 590, but the M-16s also.
How do you increase the length of your end cap to fit the OKC-3S?
I agree. Thanks for sharing the perfect product for me
See if some of those extra o rings fit on the bayonet handle for an improved grip. If not it's still a place to store them when needed.
Everyone acts like bayonets don't have a use. You wouldn't want to go to war without it.
i have never seen a bayonet shotgun in my entire life it just makes me wonder how many other rifle's you can put knife's on and make them a bayonet
I been playing battlefield 1 lmfao
Get an older M7. It should fit without the washer.
Exactly.
Yep. My older style M7 fits down all the way onto the end cap.
@@1963lwrnc my Vietnam M7 won't fit at all. I ended up having to file a little off the handle to get it to work. Yours fit perfect?
@@evilwookie5767 yes it did.
You can find issued M7’s from the Vietnam era for close to what you paid for the replica!
i traded the one that came with my 590a1. I got a chinese one. Its sharper, beter in all ways. And stays on. Yours does look nice.
The M590A1 with a bayonet is not bad a tool for close combat and bayonet fighting due to its weight how the shotgun supposed to perform, better then the M16A1 the i was using in the 80s.
Does that bayonet your have for on a mossberg 500. I got a m-7 for my ar. I tried to put the m7 one from my ar on the mossberg 500 and it’s to big
And it will fit the ar 15 also when the mood strikes you.
The length difference is made up by the sling mount missing on the end of your feed tube of your shotty
What Picatinny mount is that between the tube and the barrel?
In my experience, I have a couple of M7s and three M9s, one of my M7 tips broke off, but all of my M9s are great. My favorite is my M9 on a Mark I trench knife handle.
aureliusVA I have same shottie with an M9 and it’s tough as shit. No problems with this knife.
I see no priblem at all with the m9 , however im an old school guy so an m7 on it is just as intimidating. Funny a shotgun from the wrong end is scary,but with any bayonet it just commands respect.
Love my 1897 trench gun with bayonet but it’s 17” long
Hi there do you know if this mount will fit a mossburg maverick 88
I would go with a light saber bayonet
Nothing cooler than to fix bayonets
When the liberal Zombies mob, you are prepared.
Looks great.
I want one
Literally life in 2020
I would use it in zombie apocalypse when I’m running and see the zombie trying to catch me while I’m running forward
I got the S&W Bayonet.
Same problem, although a bit better than this video.
There is however a decent solution. GG&G Sling Loop Attachment that sits like a 0.1" Washer right there. AND they HAVE the little BALL too, they considered that.
Have you shoot it since adding the o right? Does the bayonet fall off?
L B I have not but that cap is on really tight. You could add a drop of loctite too if you want
What's the update with the bayonet after firing with it? Does it stay on? I saw another video on youtube of someone having trouble keeping their bayonet on because the bayonet was too heavy. I like this blade style for the same reasons you mentioned, just curious how this blade has held up.
eaz54 so to be honest the only time I shot with it on was in the video I posted comparing long barrel and short barrel spread. It was off camera for a few shots and I don't have issue. It locks on pretty good. You really have to squeeze those tabs and pull it off. Maybe this bayo just has better lock up? Idk. I'll have to do a video or something on it though.
I got to wonder if the heat from the barrel after extended firing would melt the washer.
Playn Hardball I doubt it. That would have to be ALOT of heat coming off the barrel to transfer down to it. I guess anything is possible though, but I think it's highly unlikely.
The plummers O rings are also for hot water faucets too. So they already handle heat pretty well even if it could get that hot on the mag tube.
I ended up using a sling mount to take up that space... worked great.
you should put a bayonet lug on your bayonet and put a Lucille on that.
This one you’re showing here appears to be the M7-B ( with the Kraton handle and 1080 carbon steel blade )
The original M7 which has the polypropylene handle , 1095 carbon steel/440 stainless blade black phosphate coating and those ones tend to run a bit more expensive… I don’t know why ? I actually like the one you have here better .
Bf1 best game ever man
Hey Steve, what model/brand forend do you have on your 590a1? Love the picatinny rails on it tbh
It came with it. It’s fab defense though so you may be able to buy it separately
I’d get ahold of mossberg, they may send you barrel. All my bayonets fit, M7-M9 and a newly manufactured OKC M9.
M7 all the way
Military surplus bayonets fit perfectly. If you had done more extensive research, you would have seen do not get the ontario bayonet.
I can’t find a good deal for black water
Any sites good sites?
Think it'll work for a 500?
I bought the OKC3S USMC bayonet a while back because I'm notoriously hard on knives and I need a heavy duty blade for work, and fuck it, might as well get one that fits on the end of my rifle and my shotgun. I actually did the same thing you did with the O-ring. Absolutely do not put thread locker on the cap otherwise you will have to ruin it with a wrench to get it off. My only problem with these new era bayonets is the cheap rubber handle material. It doesn't take much use before the tang wears out the inside of the handle and it rattles around. Since I use it almost every day, it got pretty bad but all I did was fill the void with heavy duty epoxy and it fixed the problem. About the only time I can see a bayonet being useful on the end of a gun here in the states is either in an unlikely red dawn type scenario, or if you're out hunting feral pigs, since the shotgun's main draw back is the lack of a respectable ammo capacity, and when hunting pigs on the ground, capacity can literally mean the difference between you being dead or you filling up your freezer.
WolfTheMadMan I hear ya! I mainly got it for the look and just because why not?! Haha
Could it fit on a Mossberg Maverick 88?
yes you need to get NcStar 1" Tube Mount Bayonet Adapter.
Are these still legal in Ontario?
My new mossberg 590a1 had crusty oil all over it and barrel was very dirty took about 2 hr to clean
ghetto fabolous!
Are you from the Baltimore or Philly area? Sounds like you are.
Nothing like gaining real world experience from a video game. The M9 is a horse compared to the M7. Whoever told you the M7 was superior is full of shit. Yes, the M9 looks more like a knife, that was intentional. The M7 blade doesn't lend itself well to being a very good field knife which is what a soldier would use it for a hell of a lot more than using it as a bayonet. I like the M3, M4, M5 and M5a1, the M6, and the M7, (yours is an M7B, by the way). I also like the M9. A lot. I collect guns and bayonets and spent over 20 years in the Army. Be well and, don't cut yourself.
Agreed. The M9 is a considerable upgrade to the M7, which is prone to breaking, due to its narrower surface area. I trained with the M7 at Fort Jackson’s bayonet assault course. But the M9 is what’s currently being issued.
for your 590a1 buy a m9 phrobis 3 and the bayonet will fit perfect
6:18 Noice!
Why don't you just move the back of the back of the bayonet handle lug further back on the magazine tube the 1/4" more it needs to be for the bayonet to fit properly.
strange I have like 9 Ontario knives and the are all A+ I like them better than ka bar, sog, cold steel, condor. Maybe they just have junky bayonets? Their knives are fantastic.
Where did you get the bayonet at? can i get a link
Doomy my bad I forgot to put that in the description. Just search it on amazon it will come right up.
Cheap on Amazon.
Now, will a USM8A1 work?
Harry SNAFU yes
Then you can hang it on ypur belt
If it doesn't fit it's the wrong one. If you have to be the engineer, what do you need them for? Buy the right one for your shotgun. Simple.
What a cute little knife. But I prefer a sword attached to the Shotgun.
And, with that "rubber" o- ring, that barrel is not securely seated.
The M7 is 97 bucks now.
It looks like the knife finish comes off easily.
Vladislavs Dovgalecs all the old M7 bayonets have the finish rubbed off, the scabbard uses spring steel retainers in it. The retainers work great but hard on the finish!
I took a spring outta mine oiled the blade no more scratches and it doesn't sound like a grinder when you pull it out
The M9 is better. Sounds like you are trying to rationalize why you bought the cheapest of the 3.
Shotgun with a bayonet! And you ask why. . .
I prefer my M9 on mine, but I never put it on, it’s not reasonable. No zombies
Modify your bayonet do not modify your gun. You have over 10,000 psi in that Bolt & Barrel everytime u pull the trigger
For a $100.00 bayonet it should already fit correctly out of the box. Just my opinion...........
Get a OKC 3S and a GG&G sling spacer. Its nasty. Dm me for Instagram name. It will hold up. I've been hog hunting with it. It does the trick!
Backyard/tv/gamer warrior......lol
Why!?!? That’s something your wife would say!
Why a bayonet?...why not a bayonet? No flaw in the logic.
Credibility declines when video games are referenced.
actually your bayonet there is the same design as the classic WW1-WW2 design you have there. I have a REAL Case manufactured ( like.. 11 different companies maNUFACTURES THESE EXACT BLADE PROFILES as everything from Infantry Bayonets to fighting knifes to you name it... ) I wish i could show you a photo of it. My friend had found it and the leather handle spacers sadly were rotted ad the blade had been sadly pitted and left to sit and rust to shit... however I cleaned it up, and instead of heating and removing the Peened on pommel, i decided to just improvise a knew handle and used a Van-secret to making an awesome custom fitted to your hand and sturdy, comfortable handle for anything out of commonly available household items...I think I am going to order one of these and put it on my Maverick88 , maybe they make a Bayonet Lug for the Maverick, if not.. ill make my own. I took machining and have a X/Y milling vice table, and am about to get a Wen 10 or 12" drill press to rebuid my drill press/ mill ourt of... Harbor Frieghts drill presses arent worth trying to make a Mill for light projects out of btw,, I tryed to use rhier 8" to do a Polymer80 lower for the first time... and I nearly had it perfect till i realized that the damn shaft and chuck are so badly machined that the sheer wobble in my milling bit had fucked it up... sucks.
I don’t understand the concept of having a Bayonet on a shotgun! Because your not in a hole in a jungle waiting for the Enemy to attack. Home defense is all your going to encounter. LMAOO.
Because one can
Take my advise, or don't. I would advise to you young man that you stop the games for a year or two and spend some money on a highly experienced and qualified trainer to teach you how to use these tools you are buying. You can absolutely injure yourself or even die from accidentally inflicted wounds that would've been prevented with proper training and practical use experience. This isn't a video game. You can't power back up with med kits.
I realize I sound condescending with all this but it's a real concern and bad things do happen with good and innocent intentions. Please please please, get some training and learn to make the tools an extension of yourself.
If you use a real military bayonet instead of a piece of crap okc is not made military spec
By the way I like your airsoft shotgun
M9 is garbage, heavy dull cheap steel. It will break at the wire cutting hole or at the hilt were the rat tail tang starts. Also serrations are gay.
A game made you buy one? It will come in handy when you play army. Its too heavy & has no use in the real world.
Seth Adam leave him alone we all have things we bought for our guns that don’t really have a lot of use but are cool so we like em anyway lol
wrong. definite use
Seth Adam No, it’s perfect for home defense. Once you run empty on ammo you’re still holding a formidable weapon in your hands.
If that size difference is true, my m7 would fit perfectly since it was issued to a marine.
Not where I wanted to post the comment
M9 makes the m7 look pretty toothpicky