WILL IT START??? Massive Ford TW-25!!!
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- čas přidán 22. 08. 2024
- Waylon wants to buy this tractor but we need to know if it will start and run. Last guy that ran it said something was messing up and they towed it back to this spot. What will we find out? LIKE and SUBSCRIBE!!! Thanks for watching and God Bless!!
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Love these old blue Ford tractors!
Thanks! Glad you like em too! Part 2 dropped yesterday on my channel! Thanks for watching and thanks for the comment!
Guys, that engine is spinning over way to slow. I'm with diesellivesmatter on this one. A good set of jumpers hooked to a truck with high idle and hooked directly to the starter and she should spin fast. It had an ether knock for sure but there was another weird noise even before you gave her a shot of ether. I'm hoping this one turns out well for you guys.
It died for some reason.
Where the positive goes into the starter housing it is melting. The starter is bad and there is a bad connection. We tried with a jump box added and the battery is fully charged.
Chances are it's got a spun bearing on the crank or some thing else major if it's knocking like that when it's running. take the oil filter off and see if it's got metal filings in it and drop the oil and see if you got any in that and on the drain plug. If you got to rebuild it those motors are famous for dropping coolant in the oil from porous blocks. it's not advisable to rebore worn bores and put oversize pistons in , it's better to bore and sleeve them back standard. It wouldn't be the first time a blocks gone porous after a straight oversize re bore without sleeves fitted. That tractors got to be cheap because of what that motor might cost to sort properly. A friend of mine did an 8630 that's the same motor a few years ago, it was around 6K Canadian and apart from the rebore he did the rest himself ,and parts have gone through the roof in price since. The starters the least of your problems L.O.L. Good luck and take care.
Thanks for watching and thanks for the great comment. Sounds like you good understanding of what’s going on here.
You need to get hold of Lord Muck he knows these big Fords inside out. He has a CZcams channel.
Funny he was just leaving me some comments about it. Small world! New video today will tell the tale!!
These things were a gutless, black smoke belching heap of crap even when new, set fire to it and use insurance money to buy John Deere 4755
That would be nice. I’m a Deere guy myself!
NOT Enough battery power, you can hear that for god’s sake!!!!😩😩😩
Battery is fine. There was a short in the starter. New video today at 4pm. Thanks for watching and thanks for the comment!!!
I was looking right in front of the cab. Those screens you can see through to the other side. The air to air system seems to be missing. Those systems on our Two TW 30 tractors have not given any problems over the last 40 years bought one new they have closed to 9,ooo hour each. I’ve seen people putting straight chrome pipes on them unhooked the hose going to the factory muffler. This hose cleans the air to air system unhooking it clogged up the system. A big expense to fix. If you’re watching those tractors pulling hard like a silage chopper it will look like a puff of brown dust coming out of the muffler every now and then. This is dust coming out of air to air system. They’re self cleaning for the most part. I think we have cleaned our about 2 times in all theses years. We kept the factory system up as it’s supposed to be. This is free horsepower if it’s running right. We were cutting 200 acres corn plus 100 acres small grain silage per year. We were cutting silage per ton with less diesel fuel than other farmers using JD tractors. Not only our farm but others reported the same results. Check into weather this tractor had this on it from the factory it it did its going to costs to put one back on it. Maybe you could find a good used one. engineer said these tractors were out front on this technology that came from Europe. A head of their time.
There is a hose under the exhaust that connects to the intake box.
That’s an 83 or 84 model. They are great tractors. Fuel stop IN is run fuel stop OUT is stop. Always push it back in after you shut it off.
The motor is a 401CI 6.6L Ford motor. The injection pump has a button in the shutoff lever. Give it full throttle and push it in. It should click. Then start it. The dual power is the button between the clutch and brakes. Drive it around and figure it out.
Did nobody think to check the coolant level in that thing? One possible reason the oil level could be way above normal is that the bottom third in the pan is antifreeze! Sleeved engines can develop perforations in cylinder walls allowing coolant to seep into the crankcase even when they are not running, just sitting. Good idea to loosen the drain screw on the pan a bit to see if water comes out! Of course there will be no compression in perforated cylinders either.
We did check the coolant level and it was very low. But after starting it we didn’t find a milky oil on the dipstick so we thought it was fine. We worked on it yesterday and this next video will tell the tale! It’s coming!! Thanks for watching and thanks for the comment!
Call that a battery chax
A what what??
Well, like I always say, win some, lose some lol. I have an aching suspicion there is something not great going on in that motor…
May want to check the oil again, you mentioned it was way over full and in my experience that means there is a bunch of water in the bottom of the pan. Water is heavier than oil and will go to the bottom. Had that on my 1100 and my 1155. Good luck! Still a cool old tractor!
Yeah it’s on a fairly decent slope facing down hill. After getting it started I checked the oil again for signs of water in the oil and there wasn’t any. I probably should have put that in the video as well. It is low on coolant so that was a concern of mine. The tractor was towed back here for a reason so I know there is going to be some issue. Hoping for a clog in fuel system or something like that but this starter melting made it impossible to start. A lot of guys saying I need more juice but with that big batt and a jump pack it wasn’t spinning fast enough and was inconsistent. Plus the smoking and melting around where the positive goes into the starter is a big indication of a short. Got a starter ordered and will revisit as soon as it arrives. Was cold out there too. In the 30s, so it was sort of a cold start. Has a bit of a fuel drip near the pump so I know the fuel pressure wasn’t up to par right off the bat. Thanks for the tip and thanks for watching and commenting! Keep up the good work. I enjoy your vids!
Stop spraying ether in the turbo and it will probably crank. It's called ether knock, Jesus christ!
I guess I should add there is 20-30 minutes between these starts due to the starter melting. We were letting it cool completely. But the way it’s edited would make it seem like I’m constantly spraying fluid down its throat. The fuel system is dripping so pressure probably isn’t great. This tractor was towed to this spot because it quit. It may be a catastrophic failure too. We are just trying to get it to start due to several uneducated opinions of what’s wrong with it. I do appreciate you watching! Thanks
TRY 24VOLT.. did that many tmes with tired starters 2x 12v batteries in SERIES NOT PARALELL
Yeah it’s already cooking the post on the starter! Don’t miss what’s coming on the next big blue tractor vid!! I appreciate all the comments!!
Better put that air to air system back on tractor. Big mistake to take it off. It’s free horsepower. The TW 30 and 20 are better built tractors on the inside. We running 2 TW 30s good tractors. But keeping air to air systems up and running pays big time. Sounds like this one has been taken off and messed up engine.
Are you taking about the inter cooler? I don’t think this tractor came with one. When I was headed to look at it a guy was telling me these tractors didn’t have one. He was worried it was the turbo and thought parts would just suck right into the intake. Thanks for the comment and thanks for watching. I sure appreciate it. New vid on this tractor will be very soon!! Don’t miss it. It’s a dandy!
TW25-s don't have an intercooler, 30/35's do. 25's are just turbo-charged.
@LordMuck that’s what I was thinking! Thanks for watching and thanks for the comment!
When you know it's the wiring and you ignore that you are prolonging the agony. I had high hopes when you brought a 'real man' battery, not a couple sorry excuses and a cobbeling kit like old Hank and Wylie, but then you brought no tools or cables or even tried to correct the smoking connection. Electricity turns into one of two things when connected to the starter, a magnetic field, or heat. It's the magnetic field that turns the motor, the heat on those connections is just lost energy that keeps the starter from doing its best work. With old diesels like this you need that starter to do its best work!
It was a short in the starter. We replaced the starter. Had a bunch of tool with me. New video coming very soon. Thanks for watching and thanks for the comment!
Wow
Thanks
That would be a cool old tractor if you could get it running. I had an old Ford 3000 several years ago, that was a great tractor too. Really simple to work on and the parts were pretty cheap. Sounds like y'all may have a fuel delivery problem though. Thanks for sharing.
We will revisit it as soon as the starter comes in. Thanks for watching and all the comments! Keep it up!
This video should have been called how not to start a tractor.
Thanks for the comment!!
Pump the primer on the fuel pump. Not sure if that one has one or not but most older tractors do. It is likely that the system gets a little air with old fuel lines. Older tractors with factory 4wd are worth $.
Primer doesn’t seem to work. I was messing with it. Just flaps back and forth. Im hoping it’s simple fuel issue. I can’t get any answers about it. Only guesses. Starter has arrived so it will be coming up soon! Thanks for watching and commenting. I appreciate it!
If the primer doesn't work it's likely that it's not getting fuel. These engines use it like a lift pump to pump fuel from the tank to the pump
@creyly8326 thanks for the comment! New video of this beast coming soon!
we have a old 7740 power star sle and it has a primer
@@user-gn5lr4hg7e nice!
That engine was used in tractors and trucks. Trucks might a cheap source for used engines; buy a running truck. Never tried swapping in a truck engine on a TW; works on many other tractor models.
Many other TW's use same engine at different hp ratings.
Run it with the pump settings that come with it to not overload the transmission and axle.
That model is nearly the largest and latest of the TW series.
Also a running engine from a smaller TW would have had an easier life from being turned down and could be another source.
Awesome thanks for all the info! Great comment! Got a new video on this tractor coming out soon. Don’t miss it! You sound like you’re on the right track! Thanks for watching!
ETHER BLOWS HEAD GASKETS
STOP SPAYING IT WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE ENGNE SPNNING ON STARTER
One of the legendary tractors Ford put out....gotta say it don't sound good though
Yeah it’s sounds terrible. New vid coming out today. Thanks for watching and thanks for the comment!
My brother had 2 Tw 20, they was great tractors! They both was dino and one had two and a half more horsepower. And and you can tell which one was which, when you was using it. They would pull a 5 bottom plow faster. Then the neighbors John Deere tractor, that had the same horsepower. I think you need to try one more time, ether can do something like a hydrolock. And either will make it knock. Hope that's what it is I hate to see a tractor, just sit there like that!
New vid coming soon! It will tell the tale! Thanks for the comment!!
VERY PROFESSIONAL !!
SUCH A LEARNING EXPERIENCE 😂😂😂
Thanks for watching and thanks for the comment!
I absolutely hate battery and cable issues and I don't skip on those anymore.
Yeah I spent 400 bucks on the battery cables for barney.
@@poorfarm-nn6ii I just bought a 4' x 1/0 cable for my which truck, $40
@@diesellivesmatter the cables for barney were 2-10ft cables. And they are 4/0 maybe? Big ones. They gasped when they seen what I was buying. I knew then I was in for it. They cut me a big deal and it was still 400
Many have a hand primer pump on the fuel pump for when they loose prime.
I believe this one does as well. This one is like a small lever on the side near the injection pump. It doesn’t seem to build pressure though. Just flaps back and forth.
What are you guys up to please tell me because i think you must rather stay at home please
What?
All the ether lock 😂😂😂😂 just keep spraying
There was 30+ minutes between each trying to start it. Just seems that way due to the editing. The starter was smoking so we would have to wait for it to cool. The next video will tell the tale, so stay tuned. Thanks for the comment!
It’s crazy some people instead of fixing it they just let it sit .
It’s only been down since last summer. It’s a neighbor who has been care taker of a little over 1000 acres. Used this machine to keep it hogged. The owner sold the land right after the care taker blew up the tractor. Thanks for watching. New vid of this tractor coming soon! Thanks for the conment!
Uh oh! Y’all let the smoke out! 🤣
Yeah we did. Gonna get a new starter in and see what we can do then.
YOUR MAIN AIM SHOULD BE HOW TO STOP ENGINE
IF T 'DOES DESEL RUNAWAY.
NO GOOD DSCONNECTING FUEL PIPES AS IT WILL RUN ON OL IN THE SUMP
Thanks for the comment!!
Give it some throttle Got the idling at 100 rpm. Turning over to slow and ether locking it.
The plan was to hit the throttle but he did the second it fired the second time and it died. And then it just wouldn’t turn over fast enough after that. New starter is on the way.
Was that Guy Fiarrie helping you? Lol
Yes!!
Boosters! Get yourself a very good set of boosters and a stick to high idle the truck. On this application I would hook them directly onto the starter since there is such a crap connection to the battery.
Where the positive power is entering the starter it’s melting the case around the starter. Waylon has a starter ordered. We took the old starter that was removed years ago to have rebuilt but they are 6 weeks out on rebuilding it.
I would like to get myself another jump back. My last one died and I just haven’t gotten one.
@@poorfarm-nn6ii it makes less voltage drop which means less amps and less smoke
Please push the kill switch in starter fluid lock
New video just dropped today on this tractor! Check it out. Tells the tale!! Thanks for watching and thanks for the comment!
Does the muffler have a little pipe underneath the hood were a hose can be hooked up to it? Looks like air to air system has been removed.
The 25s didn’t come with air to air from what I’ve read. The 20 and the 30 did. Thanks for watching and thanks for the comment!
Rod knocker
We are hopeful that that’s not the case. Waiting on a starter at the moment. Thanks for watching and thanks for the comment!
that engine is sounding terrible! bad engine knock dropped a big end or something worse
Thanks for watching. Check out the new vid on it. Dropped yesterday! It tells the tale. Thanks for the comment!
Sounds to me like you might have injector problems along with starter & battery problems.
Thanks for the comment!!
You people should stick to farming and leave tractors alone. You have no idea what your doing except wrecking that engine
They shouldn't even farm. They have no clue how to start that up the right way. To much ether and not enough cracking power. City people should just stay in the city.
Thanks for the comment!
Thanks for the comment!
Give it more either
Each of those tries were probably 20 min apart or more due to letting the starter cool off. But the way the video is edited it does probably seem like I’m just continually spraying ether down its throat lol. Thanks for the comment!
that tractor needs a pull start to free it up
Yeah!
I don’t think you can pull start them since the dual power clutch needs hydraulic pressure to start.
@@Ford7710 hmm🤔. Being a mechanical engine I would think you could just get it rolling. But you may be right! Thanks for the comment. Got a new starter and going to be putting it on tomorrow!
@@poorfarm-nn6ii I think I’m right. On my 7710 it says HIGH DUAL POWER TRANSMISSION WILL NOT PREVENT TRACTOR FROM ROLLING WHEN ENGINE IS SHUT OFF! I think that means the motor has to be running to pump pressure to the dual power .
@@Ford7710 you might be correct.
Jesus christ
It's hard to tell with the bad connection but it was very uneven crank and very strange sounds coming through the video, I suspect valvetrain issues. Clean around the valve cover and pull it off and look at the rockers, make sure they are rocking like they should.
We wanna get it fired with the new starter and give it a bit of throttle to see if it will clean up. If the engine isn’t junk he will buy it and we will move forward with fixing it up. We wanna see what we can do before he pays for it. Already out the price of a starter he has ordered.
Leave a comment! ANYTHING! Thanks for watching and God Bless!
First try to jump start from anther power source and stop spaying ether, no words for ....
It’s the starter. We got a new one on and a new video on the way!! Thanks for the comment!!
That opening was certainly irritating and pointless!!!
Thanks for the comment!
Well , it’s a big arse tractor . I think they were built in Europe weren’t they ? I may have taken the starter off and bench tested before I invested in a new one . Look forward to your next step -
@@TKM1951 thanks. The positive post where enters the starter housing is melting. There is a short in the starter for sure. It’s melting the case and smoking. Causing a slow and irregular crank. New starter is like 235 bucks. Getting it rebuilt was 6 weeks out.
Low batterie 🔋
Battery is in great shape and we tried with a jump box connected as well. The post going into the starter case is melting. There is a short in the starter. Thanks for the comment and thanks for watching.
Take the oil cap off and see how much blowby when it starts. We had a forklift like that sounded like a hole in the piston, started like a pulling tractor and had as much blowby as it did exhaust.
New video coming that will reveal a lot! Hope you watch it. Thanks for the comment and thanks for watching! I appreciate it!
@poorfarm-nn6ii I am subscribed so I will definitely watch.
@@hcsgmail thanks!