1965 Jeep Wagoneer with OHC 6 cylinder
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- Early Jeep Suburban, it's so ugly its cute. A simple SUV. I thought for sure it would have a v8, but no, a 230cid OHC 6 cylinder " Tornado " engine fills the bay, with a three on the tree with a hydraulic clutch. Kinda cool.
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My dad's 63 had the OHC Tornado engine. It was phenomenal!
This was my mom's station wagon when I was a kid back in the early 70's.Same year & engine(except mom's had the optional auto).Ahead of the SUV craze by 20 years!
I had a 64 willys wagoneer with a 327 big block vigilante awesome truck
I've owned 17 jeeps in my lifetime including two wagoneers. This one is special! Almost all the original 6 cylinder engines were swapped out but they did the job. Highway speed was a little low because of the gearing they were good engines.
The 230 Tornado was the first OHC engine by a US manufacturer. The same lobe opened the intake and exhaust. I have a 2 wheel drive 1963, it has independent front suspension. The one barrel made 100 hp, the 2barrel made 110 hp. The clutch is a bear to change because the bellhousing is cast into the block.
Wow thanks for sharing that info that's nice to know
Had a 64' Jeep pickup short box with the Tornado. Great pickups.
We. Had a 64. Jeep panel a former bell truck with that motor and the garage had a 1963 gladiator. With a plow same both ran like snot and panel was an sito
The 327 AMC/Rambler V8 was optional for '65-1/2 Wagoneers (spring 1965). The U.S. Forest Service had a fleet of '65 Wagoneers in some states, apparently some V8 equipped.
What an absolute jewel!
Oh yes, my Pontiac Tempest came with a six cylinder, over head cam. Rubber timing belt . Ran very good.
OHC 6 was a very strong engine. Unfortunately many Jeeps with this engine were junked when owners found water in their oil and oil in the water believing the block was cracked. In fact, the die-cast timing crank cover would corrode a hole through the water pump side, leaking water into the timing/crankcase side. Its good to see a OHC 6 survivor still around. My 1990 Grand Wagoneer, under the plastic front grill, still exists the orig '63 frt face of rino grill opening & round headlight holes.
Pulled an airstream with my '66 327 cid across the country with the wife and kids. Glad l did that.
That design carried into late. 1980. Called FSJ. AND HAD A A OHC 6. IN IT
I knew Pontiac had an OHC engine. But I never knew Jeep had one way back then.
These are really cool station wagons (as they were classified as until the '80s). A true conglomeration throughout the years. Up until '67 they were available with the "Tornado" 230 in the early days, the 232 I6, and the Rambler "Vigilante" 327 V8. Starting in '68 the Buick 350 was standard up until '73 after AMC bought the company and started using their 2nd generation 360 and 401 V8's in the full size Jeeps, while 304's could be had in the CJ's. First gen AMC's were the Rambler 250, 287 and 327, second gen were the 290, 343, and 390, all second gen's being directly bolt-in with third gen. Also available was the 258 I6 at this time. 401 was dropped after '78 and the 360 survived until '91 even after Chrysler bought Jeep in '87. Gotta say though, I personally own an '89, and it's the only vehicle I've ever seen to use an AMC engine, Mopar transmission, Ford ignition and intake components, GM steering, New Process transfer case and Dana axles.
quite a recipe of various auto parts, nice to see they all work together
I had an 88 Grand Wagoneer for a short time. What a mess of vacuum lines and wiring lol. Talk about optioned though. All the electronics worked, it started and drove, the four wheel drive worked. Just needed a restoration. Bought it for $600 and had no problem doubling my money when I decided it was more project than I had time for. Would love to have another one someday. Or an old Cherokee Chief.
that AMC 258 six is great I have one in a 1973 AMC Hornet Sportabout.
Old comment but Jeeps with the i6 were like this too.. amc i6 all the way up to 2004 i think
@@jeepsblackpowderandlights4305 The 4.0 liter that lasted to 2004 (Grand Cherokee) and 2006 (Wrangler) is a variant of the 232/258 small block. The fuel injected 4.0 debuted in the 1987 Cherokee with 173 HP, followed by the high output version for 1991.
That's an amazing car.
Jeep rocks...
I say thanks for uploading from Brazil.
Drove Jeep products since 1959.....love 'em all. :O)
Nothing as strong as the kaiser wagoneer. My first was a 67, 327, 2bbl, 3 on the tree as they say. An unstoppable force when the hubs are locked.
That wagon is worth some $$$$$ now
Sure is . I lost track of it.
I have a '63, 1st year Waggie that's almost the same as this one. They did sit pretty low. Jeep used the same body on the Wagoneers (later Grand Wagoneer) until 1991! The OHC was a Willys design (Kaiser bought Willys - mine actually has a Willys ID plate). The bent emblem on the glovebox is actually a cutout for an optional clock.
Ha ha ha Jeep and Pontiac both had OHC Sixes way before anything Japanese 😂.
But very different designs and purpose. The Pontiac was peppy and powerful, from 165hp in the 1966 230 1bbl to 230hp in the 1969 250 4bbl Sprint with manual trans, and a 6500 RPM redline. Even 165hp was 20hp more than similar displacement engines. The Kaiser-Jeep 230 OHC6 was all about as much low end torque as they could pull out of it to use in trucks. The cam had 6 lobes, each operating both the intake and exhaust valve - no overlap at all, there's a gap in valve timing. They're both relly cool engines each in its own way.
Another one I’d love to bring back to England
I like the "bent" emblem on the glove box.. strange but cool! haha
Really good condition👍🏻 nice car. I'd like to have one.
that's one sweet jeep love to have it
The Tornado 6 was considered the most fuel efficient motor in it's class atthe time. It required high octane fuel, especially early versions (lowered compression later) and had overheating/pinging problems in high altitudes. Good motor, continued to be used in M715 military truck even after the 232 replaced it in the civilian models. Some overheating issues may be helped by instalation of radiator overflow bottle. I have 67 Wagoneer with 327 (AMC/Rambler)V-8 option. Buick 350 came in 68, then360
Awesome. It'll be great I'm sure !
That same body was used from 1962 up through 1991/92 (12 Grand Wagoneers made in 1992). Different grills were used throughout the years, but the panel seen on this wagoneer with the headlights and smaller (horn) cut outs are there but painted black under the later grills. Some like to take off the modern grills and install the vintage "rhino" grill on the later Wagoneers and Grand Wagoneers.
Yes, the AMC 327 was a good, durable engine. Mine still runs good. The Buick 350 replaced it around 1968. Then AMC 360 in early 70's. The Tornado 6 was replaced by the AMC 232...it is nice to see this old Wag with the Tornado 6 in good shape in this video.
Wow, that was new to me too. And I had a '67 Firebird Sprint with the OHC 6, and thought it was a first in the U.S. Sure enough, this was a genuine Jeep engine brought out in 1962. You can look it up on Wikipedia.
My first car was the pickup version of that wagoneer. It was a 1963 with 40 k on it in 1972. I got 50 miles to a quart of oil and the transmission failed twice in 1200 miles. when the gas tank started to leak I gave up. Many years later I talked to a man who bought it from the man who bought it from me. He told me that it was the only car he had ever had where the transmission had to be cut off of the engine. (Many of these were converted to gm v8s. Lighter and better power).
Nothing better than an FSJ.
A REAL JEEP................NOT LIKE THE JUNK BUILT TODAY...............
muy buena!!!que problema tenia??
AC Sampietro redesing the 6 cylinder williys, it was the "Tornado" legendary in argentina by the way.
I want one
SE's are nice. The car looks pretty rough paint wise. Rusty?
I saw the owner drive by yesterday with it .... it's still hanging in there
Designed, developed, and built by Jeep. Came out in '62.
Very nice car!!!
So its rare to see a four cylinder engine in a car like this one.
Maybe the customer in those days asked for it when he bought the car for a special reason?
Actually the first OHC engines in US production cars. Launched in 62 by Kaiser first in willys station wagon and truck and then in the first wagoneers and gladiators. The Tornado was replaced by the "hi-torque" 6 cylinder 232ci at the end of 65.
G. Herve-Gruyer caddillac ohc 1930s v16 s then went to flàthead V8 s
dusenberg had overhead cams engines decades before too
straight looking car. Is that your RX7 next to it?
yes, it's a 1984 RX7 GSL-SE I've had it for years. Not sure what to do with it.
To my understanding the 327 AMC engine is quite a reliable long lasting power plant. Too bad rust got to so many.
How nice of them to put the firing order on the engine. Sure don't see that anymore!
Actually ... 1963 was the first year for the 230CID OHC ... I have 1 (and a 64 J200 with a 230CID OHC)
Motor TORNADO de ika torino . auto emblematico de argentina . saludos
Viva IKA Renault Torino con Renault 4.0 engine Amigo!!
no rust, just looks bad, lots of moss. I have a dream to restore it one day
Very fortunate to have no rust. Years ago, Bill Harrah of Vegas fame grafted a Ferrari engine into one of these. You can find the story of it with google.
Us west coasters spin the other way, just like " tigh-phoon"
these things weren't up high. It may have sagged some but i'll bet its pretty close to where it should be.
Bill Harrah's car was called the "Jerrari".
i wonder if the oil is original
It's a six. Standard engine, built by Jeep.
I have a 66 wagoneer just like this, hard to find parts for tho. Can anyone point me in the right direction where i can find a supplier/s.
This Tornado engine was not sucvesfull in US but it was reingeneered in Argentina and it became a very powerful and sporty engine, developed by IKA (kaiser indstries of Argentina) and improved for the argentinean Torino.
Several changes were made to upgrade it such as cylinder head, manifolds carburetion system, compression ratio and lubrication system. There was also a version with 3 Weber carbs....
At first, IKA instaled it on 1965/66 Ramblers, Jeep Gladiator pick up and Willys Overland, which was called here as "Estanciera" (the last one with 181 cid)
By late 1966 it was instaled in the so called Torino and the engine was in prodction till 1974, later replaced by a more advanced version of it, with a 7 main bearings crankshaft , a new cylinder head with 12 lobe camshaft and more power and a more quiet run. It was called "Torino 233" engine, only made in Argentina by IKA-Renault.
Tornados engines were used in competition too, reaching a figure power up to 300 hp.
Amazing, I had no idea Americans made and OHC 6 so early on....
Hey.. pontiac also made ohc 6 back in 60s.. before all the japanese and ford..
Who manufactured the engine? Is it a GM engine? They made an OHC six in the 60s.
The 230 OHC six was a Jeep (Kaiser) design in-house, not related to the Pontiac OHC.
never forget the two stroke oil in your fuel as protection additive against modern much too dry eco fuel that destroys your carb and tank and fuel pump. So do what all German Porsche drivers do, add 1% two stroke oil to your fuel and your car is safe.
Dude it's as boxy as any wagoneer, it didn't change shape throughout it's entire life span.
really?
I know the engine is kinda cool, but it's really not worth it unless you are into originality.
My 1968 M-715 has one, tho it's always fired right up, it's a dog that has almost Zero replacement parts .
I will be selling mine.
it's 'tor-nae-doe' .. lol
Called a tornado. 6 cyl. Ran like snot
mustang
its 13000
Good lord that thing is ugly! And OHC engines have been around since the 20's but in a car this early certainly is unusual.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. This one is not in showroom shiny condition but the shape is all business - which is what my wife and I like.
"It looks like it's been lowered." Bwahahahahaha! Dude. Just........ Um......They're called 'pie pans'. "More boxy, more square" - no, dude. Same body as all other wags and grand wags. "Taillights are older than I would have expected" - what did you expect? It's a '65, hence, '65 taillights. (shakes head).....
Yea I wanted to go in on his video. So much wrong information. But I’ll be nice and just say thanks for recording. But take the audio out so u don’t look like an idiot
tried to copy nissan?? thats the dumbest thing I've heard in a while. jeep introduced this engine in1962. the DATSUN ohc of 1966 was based off of the mercedes m180 engine. they didnt engineer it properly and had to re-try for 1967. thats where you get the L20.
the japanese where the biggest copiers of that period you'd have to be slow to not realize that.