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    For the first time ever, we can increase the RAM in the original XBOX from 64MB to 256MB! That’s 4 times the original amount! This has never been done before. And previously, the maximum amount of RAM we could upgrade the XBOX to was 128MB. But now that we are able to increase the RAM to 256MB are there any improvements or increase in gaming performance? Find out in this video!
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Komentáře • 833

  • @ErnestJay88
    @ErnestJay88 Před 12 dny +297

    Upgrade the CPU
    Upgrade the ram
    i bet future video be like "Install faster GPU"
    in the end, modders accidentally create *Xbox 360* by upgrading original Xbox.

    • @NitNek_
      @NitNek_ Před 8 dny +35

      Let them cook...

    • @SonicBoone56
      @SonicBoone56 Před 6 dny +9

      That'd require a whole different architecture lol

    • @ErnestJay88
      @ErnestJay88 Před 6 dny +18

      @@SonicBoone56 i didn't mean "literally" but they upgrading original Xbox as powerful as X360

    • @kraftypk7283
      @kraftypk7283 Před 5 dny +8

      ​@@SonicBoone56you'll require a whole different architecture in a minute young man

    • @RicardoRamosRetrocomputacao
      @RicardoRamosRetrocomputacao Před 4 dny

      If they tinkered with the development kit that used G5 PowerMacs, I believe they could create an Xbox 360 PowerMac.

  • @Galavis.
    @Galavis. Před 12 dny +1061

    I prefer downloading more ram

  • @otterpopdotorg
    @otterpopdotorg Před 12 dny +129

    I love this for the "because we can" level of upgrade.

  • @thomashunt2240
    @thomashunt2240 Před 12 dny +145

    That improvised heat shield was an inspired idea, reusable and simple!

    • @UberMicroRepairs
      @UberMicroRepairs Před 11 dny +3

      not necessary.

    • @UJustGotGamed
      @UJustGotGamed Před 4 dny

      @@UberMicroRepairs hot air can easily blow away the tiny filtering caps on the board with how little solder there is on their pads

    • @UberMicroRepairs
      @UberMicroRepairs Před 4 dny

      @@UJustGotGamed nah. Surface tension keeps them in place

    • @ResidentIT_
      @ResidentIT_ Před 3 dny

      @@UberMicroRepairs ok pal

    • @UJustGotGamed
      @UJustGotGamed Před 3 dny

      @@UberMicroRepairs to a degree but i can confirm from personal experience they don't like to hold on very well

  • @Nihongames
    @Nihongames Před 12 dny +178

    Well I can see some scenarios where additional RAM could theoretically help
    + 720p patches
    + PC Ports or better pc ports
    + Texture improvement mods in games
    + Emulators
    + Sega chihiro games

    • @XenonG
      @XenonG Před 12 dny +15

      Gonna need to combine a 1.4Ghz Pentium III replacement, plus the SEGA Chihiro GPU. Might as well think about a new motherboard. :P

    • @windowsxpnt2347
      @windowsxpnt2347 Před 12 dny +6

      @@XenonG iirc the sega chihiro gpu is just the same one as an og xbox, maybe a bit higher clocked

    • @windowsxpnt2347
      @windowsxpnt2347 Před 12 dny +4

      hopefully this can allow for i/o emulation for wangan mmt1 and 2. would be really cool to be able to finally play those games at home

    • @gameblabla
      @gameblabla Před 12 dny +9

      There are some games patched at 1080i (Halo 2 HD, PSO) that can still run out of memory even with 128MB ram mod. (in the case of halo, he had to dial down the texture cache size to make it work) If they can fix the memory speed issue on the original kernel, it would help us run halo 2 at 1080i better (the guy who made the patch theorized the game was possibly starved for memory bandwidth). Besides that, there's also the port of ReactOS that can benefit. I would like to see where this is going.

    • @SargentoDuke
      @SargentoDuke Před 12 dny +4

      128mb is enought for 720p patches, that need 900mhz at least to run... and few need 1.4ghz cpu to run. The ram is to... install a proper OPERATING SYSTEM on the Xbox making it a MODERN CONSOLE... a Dashboard that can actually act as a operating system... imagine XBox running Android by example, its possible as Android ran so well on 256mb ram phones on the past...

  • @Rexter2k
    @Rexter2k Před 12 dny +71

    I think the actual "pro" of this mod is that eventually we are gonna run out of chips to do the classic 128mb ram mod, and this is a good replacement for that eventuality.

    • @SoloLizzy97
      @SoloLizzy97 Před 6 dny +4

      There will be broken Xbox's to take parts from for a good long while.

    • @TheGamersRace
      @TheGamersRace Před 2 dny +3

      I don't think that's really the point, nor a close coming problem. Compatible ram chips are most likely still in production, and are used in low power, or low capacity computational devices.
      That being said, adding more deditated wam for thuh swerver is always nice.

    • @alext3811
      @alext3811 Před dnem +1

      @@TheGamersRace Yeah, you'd be surprised how many embedded systems are using cores based on Pentium era cores (system-on-a-chip) for things like restaurant bump bars, and PBXs (once upon a time anways.

    • @TheGamersRace
      @TheGamersRace Před dnem

      @@alext3811 Yeah a lot of people don’t understand that a lot of the little pieces that make up old school tech….make up new school tech too. Yesterdays bleeding edge laptop is tomorrows “bump bars” as you put it.

  • @RedBeardedGriffUK
    @RedBeardedGriffUK Před 12 dny +551

    It would be interesting to see how well Half-Life 2 performs with the additional RAM

    • @pavma7
      @pavma7 Před 12 dny +40

      And StarCraft Ghost

    • @UserX-02
      @UserX-02 Před 12 dny +3

      True

    • @blitzerblazinoah6838
      @blitzerblazinoah6838 Před 12 dny +27

      Doom 3 as well.

    • @johnbrooks6243
      @johnbrooks6243 Před 12 dny +42

      R they coded to take advantage of more available ram?

    • @misterjeffa2128
      @misterjeffa2128 Před 12 dny +54

      Likely no change as they dont expect the increased amounts and look for the stock amount only.

  • @SocialisedMedicine
    @SocialisedMedicine Před 12 dny +120

    My gut instinct is that the stability issues are due to the interposer increasing the length of the PCB traces. I know from personal experience that one traces being just one or two mm longer can cause errors in signaling, even at the slower speeds that these old devices run at. Also this is even more obscure, but changing the width of the traces can cause weirdness with signal reflection. If the interposer uses thinner traces and doesn't perfectly length match them then that's my bet for the core problem.

    • @talibong9518
      @talibong9518 Před 12 dny +11

      I'd say it's more likely just a faulty chip or a little extra voltage is needed

    • @mikeyjnz
      @mikeyjnz Před 12 dny +16

      I don't know if it was still a thing in the celeron era the Xbox was built on, but older PC's if you wanted to go above a certain threshold of ram, it'd actually run slower if you didn't have an equivalent increase in the CPU cache memory that stored the increased address range of the system ram. Given the whole point of celerons was same MHz with less caching for cheaper, if this was paired with the CPU upgrade mod, would that unlock the proper speed and reliability of the extra megabytes?

    • @TheGamersRace
      @TheGamersRace Před 2 dny

      I'd say that is most likely the least problematic issue here.

  • @RicardoRamosRetrocomputacao

    In 2008 a forum user upgraded to 256mb using chips from a Compaq Presario, but because comparisons between 128 and 256 showed that there were no significant gains, this was left aside.
    Particularly, I wish there was this modification for the Xbox 360 and PS3, they clearly suffer from the memory they have, especially the PS3. As far as I remember, there was a developer version of the x360 with 1GB of RAM, but it is extremely difficult to find, and quite expensive.

  • @edale2
    @edale2 Před 12 dny +17

    The thing to do here is to start with 2 working unmodded original Xboxes. Take the RAM chips out of one, and put them in the other, making that one a 128 MB mod; then put these chips in the other Xbox, making it a 256 MB mod.
    No waste.

  • @amshermansen
    @amshermansen Před 12 dny +23

    Gotta appreciate the continued efforts to refuse to let this console die.
    The chips should come pre-bent though imo. Just to ensure a safe and consistent install.

  • @KennyPham
    @KennyPham Před 12 dny +18

    This and the pentium 3 upgrade are crazy advances for the xbox modding scene.

  • @fenriswolfretro6729
    @fenriswolfretro6729 Před 12 dny +58

    Where this modification will really shine is in improving the performance of current emulators that run on the original xbox. More RAM = more space to load ROMs into for a smoother performance. But they would have to each be modified to take advantage of the extra RAM.

    • @ThexthSurvivor
      @ThexthSurvivor Před 12 dny +1

      I was about to comment the same thing. 👍

    • @SargentoDuke
      @SargentoDuke Před 11 dny +4

      @@fenriswolfretro6729 with more ram you can use HD TEXTURES on HalfLife2 at 720p ok the original Xbox... Or increase the VIEW DISTANCE on games like Morrowind, making the xbox looks like a 360 in graphics.

    • @weinerschnitzel7
      @weinerschnitzel7 Před 11 dny

      There is no point. We already have a hard disk and have been using it for ROM paging for years.

    • @juanmillas665
      @juanmillas665 Před 11 dny +3

      i want Mame on OG xbox for 3d games like Street fighter EX And more acurate speed emulation on Neo Geo

    • @qsxmirage7274
      @qsxmirage7274 Před 11 dny

      Real ram chips will always be faster than virtual memory management ​@@weinerschnitzel7

  • @official_kex
    @official_kex Před 12 dny +54

    Why would anyone upgrade the RAM of their original XBOX if it has no use? *BECAUSE THEY FKIN CAN* - And i think thats amazing

    • @JoshLineberry
      @JoshLineberry Před 12 dny +1

      256mb of ram would actually be so amazing for me! It's something I've been wanting for a long time!

    • @another3997
      @another3997 Před 12 dny +5

      Amazing? Yes. Practical? Not really. Dangerous to the health of your Xbox? Possibly. I mean, I can chop my hand off if I want to... but just because I can, doesn't mean it's a good idea. 😂

    • @BlueEyedVibeChecker
      @BlueEyedVibeChecker Před 11 dny

      @another3997
      It may be a good idea if you're hungry.
      You may be out of food, but you're not out of options.

  • @michelvanbriemen3459
    @michelvanbriemen3459 Před 10 dny +4

    I like that the Xbox is becoming the Amiga of consoles. Neverending performance upgrades that don't have an immediate application, CPU upgrades / accelerators, memory expansions that weren't possible when the machine was new, it's fantastic.

  • @trogdo0r179
    @trogdo0r179 Před 12 dny +9

    As you were bending the pins, I was like oh this is not good.

  • @ianray9137
    @ianray9137 Před 12 dny +8

    Could you imagine the possibilities with a 1.4ghz processor upgrade and 256mb of ram on an original xbox? Holy smokes! I bet if there was a proper bios for something like that, it would be able to do alot more.

    • @ETERNAL_MODS
      @ETERNAL_MODS Před 10 dny +4

      Exactly because the stock cpu is 700mhz with 128mb cache and the tualatin 1.1 to 1.4 are 512k cache and faster speed. A faster ram like that could help emulators for shure :p

  • @tigheklory
    @tigheklory Před 12 dny +15

    Awesome video Tito! New out a 1.2 Ghz CPU upgrade in it too!

    • @David-gr8rh
      @David-gr8rh Před 12 dny +4

      Don't you mean 1.4ghz

    • @SargentoDuke
      @SargentoDuke Před 11 dny +3

      @@David-gr8rh 1.233 pentium 3 or 1.3ghz Celeron tualatins are way cheaper than the 1.4-1.5ghz ones.

  •  Před 12 dny +49

    I legit misheard "Prehistoricman" to "PrehistoricNAND"

    • @ChrisEbz
      @ChrisEbz Před 12 dny

      I thought it was prehistoricman until I read this 😂

    • @0JayDoubleU
      @0JayDoubleU Před 12 dny +1

      😂😂😂 i like "Nand" a lot more

    • @LenoxFilms
      @LenoxFilms Před 12 dny +1

      PrehistoricRAM

    • @WayStedYou
      @WayStedYou Před 3 dny

      Both are accurate at this rate

  • @F1dude.
    @F1dude. Před 12 dny +31

    Damn. I really want an og xbox. Maybe sometime in the future

    • @FoxUnitNell
      @FoxUnitNell Před 12 dny

      Their clear green xboxes were very cool, really the most appealing console at launch considering it was playing pc games that needed systems that cost three times as much as an xbox.

    • @0JayDoubleU
      @0JayDoubleU Před 12 dny +2

      Ive been seeing the prices slowly rising these past couple years. Id say the sooner the better

    • @garystinten9339
      @garystinten9339 Před 12 dny +1

      ​@@0JayDoubleUAgreed.. even a basic model would be ideal..

    • @0JayDoubleU
      @0JayDoubleU Před 12 dny +1

      @@garystinten9339 absolutely. Especially since they have a fairly easy maintainance and easy to mod if u wish

    • @kenabi
      @kenabi Před 12 dny +1

      i've got 3 of them i want to do all these mods to, but they keep adding to the list. the fiends. making them obsolete before i can even get them.

  • @m3rkinfiniteofwgkta
    @m3rkinfiniteofwgkta Před 12 dny +52

    I like the videos, but every time I look into doing any mod myself the parts aren't being sold anymore.

  • @alanbenson1505
    @alanbenson1505 Před 12 dny +3

    Thank you for this video. I am going to dust off my Crystal Xbox and do this at some point.
    At around the 9:00 mark. If you prep the motherboard pads with a thin coat of solder before tacking the chip, the chip installation will go easier. I would have prepped the pads, added more flux, then tacked a few pins as you did. I would hot air this into place only because I have a board pre-heater. I get why you did it how you did. I'd have drag-soldered it too without a board heater , just with the pad prep steps I mentioned earlier. Great job all round. Subbed!
    For context, micro-soldering has been my job since 1989.
    PS. My Crystal Xbox is my Guinea pig machine. Anything that proves good on that makes it's way into my green machine..

  • @SDRIFTERAbdlmounaim
    @SDRIFTERAbdlmounaim Před 12 dny +5

    This would of been a cool *256K subscribers special* if you had waited just a day or two ❤

  • @icedlottie
    @icedlottie Před 8 dny

    always love to see your vids on new life being brought to the xbox... ive been a fiend for the xbox since 2002 and still play on my childhood 1.0 model regularly! ive even opened it up a few times to fix the dvd drive and replace that pesky clock cap...... keep up the good work!!!

  • @x66Hawk66x
    @x66Hawk66x Před 12 dny +3

    This is pretty cool, one thing is for worth thinking about, it could open up allot of possibility's for the home brew community with PC ports ETC. I will probably stick with my 128mb build for the foreseeable future, but I will be keeping a close eye on this project. I know JCRocky5 has been moving in this direction with his softmod, I think he has even considered 512mb support. It's crazy that even after this console has past the 2 decade mark, it still has such an active community.

  • @prototype_pandad6536
    @prototype_pandad6536 Před 12 dny +8

    well i dont think ive clicked on a video so fast. I freaking love this channel

  • @hongosorongo
    @hongosorongo Před 12 dny +10

    Amazing video as always! Along with the ModXO modchip this is probably the best modded XBox on earth. The only thing missing would be the replacement of the processor for the 1GHz that Retro Renegade Repairs made. Great content Tito!

    • @ffviifakeremake9997
      @ffviifakeremake9997 Před 12 dny +3

      All we have to do now is put a PCI slot in and replace the Processor and we have the most powerful Xbox ever modded 🤣

    • @nekomasteryoutube3232
      @nekomasteryoutube3232 Před 12 dny +1

      @@ffviifakeremake9997 imagine if we could tap into the motherboards chipset to add another IDE channel so that the DVD drive and Hard Disk can be ont heir own IDE controllers (and allow SSD upgrades to run at full speed while the DVD drive is being accessed)
      Also PCI would be interesting but I doubt that could be done like my idea for another IDE Controler

    • @hongosorongo
      @hongosorongo Před 12 dny

      @@nekomasteryoutube3232 You never know man... Most of these mods were just a dream at some point and look how far the modding scene has gone. Maybe it's a matter of time? *crossing fingers*

    • @Urist_Mythrilforged
      @Urist_Mythrilforged Před 12 dny

      Throw in an HDMI mod and it gets better.

    • @talibong9518
      @talibong9518 Před 12 dny +1

      Or make a custom mobo with a SATA controller so we can use XB1 BluRay drives

  • @emagid3599
    @emagid3599 Před 11 dny

    Great watch as always. Hope you will consider doing a video on the new Benn Venn GGHD IPS screen. I would like to see your perspective on this new version compared to the older GG IPS screen from a few years back.

  • @Innumerical_
    @Innumerical_ Před 12 dny +4

    a 3D printed template of some sort for bending the pins would be cool.
    Create mounting holes on the PCB that lock in to pins on the template. The template would have beveled edges to press the "legs" onto with a length of firm plastic.

  • @exnihilo1910
    @exnihilo1910 Před 12 dny

    Man, I will never get tired of the console animations in your videos. As always the rest of the video is great but the animations... Wow!

  • @SonicBoone56
    @SonicBoone56 Před 6 dny +1

    God, the OG Xbox community has never stopped progressing at all. Never died, never slumped. I wish I could say the same for other beloved consoles, but truthfully most console scenes go dead for awhile, like the PS3 community currently. And some consoles have yet to have a vibrant homebrew and modding community, like fact the Neo Geo Pocket Color has no modding or homebrew development aside from IPS and flash cart mods. Makes me wonder what exactly keeps the OG Xbox community still thriving.

  • @AcuardThe3rd
    @AcuardThe3rd Před 12 dny +10

    Wouldn't this be a good alternative to do the 128 MB RAM upgrades for Xboxes that are 1.6 motherboards? Since they only have four slots because this would work better versus trying to double stack RAM?

    • @JoshLineberry
      @JoshLineberry Před 12 dny +6

      If this would alow us to do 128mb on 1.6s with 4 regular chips that would be amazing!

  • @auugh64
    @auugh64 Před 12 dny +1

    i enjoy your videos man

  • @DannyTan6675
    @DannyTan6675 Před 12 dny +2

    Having two games run at the same time would be useful for a quick resume fucntion, while the suspended game can be partially unloaded to allow for the main game to take up more resources, having a quick resume function would allow you to swap between games quickly. Not very useful in practice, but a neat function all the same.

  • @brandogg
    @brandogg Před 12 dny +97

    Maybe if this mod came out 20 years ago it would have some real potential, at least for making a better homebrew/media center Xbox, but can't imagine any developers doing anything with this in 2024.

    • @Ichijoe2112
      @Ichijoe2112 Před 12 dny +12

      It did, right along with the 1.3Ghz PIII mod. The difference was you either scraped the Chips of a doner board, or you bought a batch of 'em to do it. Problem is after Twenty Years of NON PRODUCTION, supply finally went the way of the Dodo as they say. This update (To that Mod), address that last issue. As to what you'd use it for?
      That would likely. Be one of two things
      Sega Chihiro (i.e. Virtual Cop), or a full XBOX SDK environment. Again. Same today, as it was Twenty years ago.

    • @Puretea4711
      @Puretea4711 Před 12 dny +5

      true... the box is dead af.... also the mod szene for the og box

    • @Wobble2007
      @Wobble2007 Před 12 dny +11

      You don't like the idea of using the Xbox as a classic Win98 & DOS PC?, I do, got to say, being able to just plug in an Xbox to my VGA monitor or CRT TV and firing up my favourite late 90s PC games sounds incredible, setting up a Win98 PC can be a little tedious, both from a hardware and software point of view, the OGXBOX literally has everything under the hood for complete 80s through to 2003 PC support, imagine not having to mess with drivers and settings, and turning retro PC gaming into a plug & play console experience, yes please on that for me, even Amiga OS could be run complete with MIDI and soundbanks audio compatibility.

    • @afewspokesloose2699
      @afewspokesloose2699 Před 12 dny +2

      ​@@Wobble2007
      That sounds interesting. Has there been developments ademend stuff like Dosbox to utilise the memory?

    • @marcelosoares7148
      @marcelosoares7148 Před 12 dny +1

      ​@@Wobble2007Can you do a dual boot setup with that? Like switching freely between the Xbox retail mode and the "PC mode".

  • @dinosqautch6941
    @dinosqautch6941 Před 12 dny

    I’d never try this mod. But I love stuff like this great video man!

  • @ffviifakeremake9997
    @ffviifakeremake9997 Před 12 dny +2

    This is so interesting, your last video on the Raspberry Pi Pico blow my mind. Which Raspberry Pi Pico should I pick up to mod the original Xbox? I've seen one called the Raspberry Pi Pico W and I'd like to see more Raspberry Pi modding in the future 👍

  • @GameSack
    @GameSack Před 12 dny +1

    One game I know of that runs into RAM limitations is Out Run 2... the first one, not Coast 2 Coast. There's a certain hill in one stage that can get a little juddery when you go over it and it lasts maybe a second. At least I'm assuming it's main RAM since it was originally made for the Xbox arcade hardware... not sure if there were any GPU or VRAM differences in that. Of course the game would likely have to be hacked to take advantage of any extra memory.
    BTW was the Xbox outputting at 8K in your video? Or was it just playing an 8K file downscaled internally to 480p or whatever?

  • @TheMavastone
    @TheMavastone Před 12 dny +1

    Thanks for this information:)

  • @mattliston1215
    @mattliston1215 Před 12 dny +1

    this opens the door up to kickass Morrowind modding. Between cpu upgrades, the ability to overclock the front bus (which got several of my OG's to over 800mhz), and the large amount of ram, homebrew just got a kick in the ass to pave the way to more fun weekends!!

  • @garystinten9339
    @garystinten9339 Před 12 dny +1

    Hoping this sparks some interest back into the modding scene to have someone patch software to add an option to tweak variable ram usage so the system itself can determine (equivalent of adjustable bar like more modern pc systems today) the ideal amount of ram as well as manual slider option for tweakers to get the ultimate setup.

  • @H20-Water-Pro-LLC
    @H20-Water-Pro-LLC Před 5 dny +1

    A real cool mod that doesn't do much of anything. Bummer... great job on the sweet work!

  • @jinxterx
    @jinxterx Před 8 dny

    Nice! What temperature was your heatgun at when desoldering the RAM chips?

  • @Alex13mod
    @Alex13mod Před 11 dny

    another great video brother!

  • @Dekerus
    @Dekerus Před 12 dny

    Dude, you have the best intro music on CZcams. Just my opinion. ❤

  • @alexgonzales89
    @alexgonzales89 Před 12 dny +2

    This is what the scene is all about doing mods with less the stellar results to hopefully one day be stellar results lmao

  • @juninhosa4260
    @juninhosa4260 Před 12 dny

    Great idea! Keep going !!

  • @vas729
    @vas729 Před 10 dny

    Tito is the Mr. Rogers of the modding scene and I am here for it!

  • @rv_jumpshotz1139
    @rv_jumpshotz1139 Před 12 dny

    I’m so happy to see the scene still thriving! Long live the greatest modded console

  • @DaiAtlus79
    @DaiAtlus79 Před 12 dny +3

    i would love to see someone like Modern Vintage Gamer chime in on things dealing with this ram, as he wrote the N64 emulator and some others on the Xbox, and the ram could be put to better use as shared VRAM with a rewritten BIOS and Kernel ie not just replacing a dashboard, but rewriting the implementation of binary executables like heavier emulators and DosBox or other ways to run things on it, like say a VM environment to let one boot OLDER operating systems like Windows 98 so one could run older PC games with the addition of a Keyboard and Mouse. Linux would be easy, as one could simply port a low-footprint distro like a 32 bit Puppy Linux version but built with modern 32 bit packages from Debian, for example. You could make it into a server for things like Insignia, with the extra ram being there to host other players on private games. Im suspecting with how the performance with the 8k video that cut to 1/4 ie 1080p one could possibly get the hardware to run that level of video using the extra memory as Vram. As well, Texture upgrade packs and upscaled ports could also be a thing, BUT pair this upgrade with a better CPU like the upgrades that can be done now to double that CPU speed and you could really have something there!!!

    • @Moved2Rumble
      @Moved2Rumble Před 11 dny

      You can already boot Windows 98 on the Original XBOX, naturally the additional memory would help, especially when running other applications.

  • @rayndaba3166
    @rayndaba3166 Před 12 dny

    Your music selection 🤤🤤 its proper

  • @LDCoronel1
    @LDCoronel1 Před 12 dny +3

    In fact the interposer pins should be shorter than the original 2001 ram chips. That allows to solder the pins without the need to bend them too much or the interposer could be designed with the pins on the pcb and that could help to solder on a 90° inclination

  • @dmxdxl
    @dmxdxl Před 12 dny +1

    Damn, I watched this video and saw your sub count is at 255K, woulda been truly insane if it was magically at 256K for this video, like poetic almost haha, oh well!!...

  • @itchyisvegeta
    @itchyisvegeta Před 11 dny

    Wow, this is an amazing mod. Can't wait to see what else comes of it.

  • @Sun-ut9gr
    @Sun-ut9gr Před 12 dny

    Might want to stake those modules down with some silastic/RTV or even some hot glue after verifying they work.
    As far as the stability issues, it could also be the mapping of the traces on the interposer itself. More testing would be needed to figure it out. This is an awesome project though. Amazing work!

  • @mathieuberthalay21
    @mathieuberthalay21 Před 12 dny

    Thank you for your video 🤩

  • @makedaevilmage
    @makedaevilmage Před dnem

    This is such a cool mod! Been thinking bout trying to upgrade mine to 128mb but didn't get to it yet tho. I'm curious what the future holds for a 256mb xbox tho.

  • @Doyle69
    @Doyle69 Před 12 dny +1

    Great video once again.
    Just a tip when using the hot air gun, the nozzle you had on, although it worked, it can be a pain as the hot air is narrowed down to a small spot, for something like the RAM chips, its actually much better to have no nozzle at all or a large one, that way you get more surface coverage and will lift in one with less chance of pulling/tearing off a trace.

    • @user-yk1cw8im4h
      @user-yk1cw8im4h Před 12 dny

      Might feel like god to be an expert at hot air nozzles and nick-picking others with your special knowledge.

    • @Doyle69
      @Doyle69 Před 12 dny

      ​@@user-yk1cw8im4h

    • @stevenbryant1011
      @stevenbryant1011 Před 12 dny +1

      ​@@user-yk1cw8im4hstop being rude, big nozzle = wider area, it's like a hose. It doesn't take a gods knowledge to know that, just simple physics

    • @Doyle69
      @Doyle69 Před 7 dny

      @@stevenbryant1011 That guy clearly doesn't watch or listen to the videos, I hear a lot "Im not an expert in soldering, any tips will be helpful" and you know.. someone thinks i'm been a "god"... I just don't entertain people with a sad life that they have to put others down for helping in future projects, damned if you, damned if you don't with them kind of people.

  • @Para-KGB
    @Para-KGB Před 12 dny

    For watching movies on a modded xbox this would actually be really helpful.
    I can also see this adapted for games with mod patches.
    though movies is more likely where this comes in handy.

  • @ScientificZoom
    @ScientificZoom Před 9 dny

    Ok, taking old bios into modern one would be interesting 🎉, though I very much appreciated the efforts

  • @OfficialGaminGuys
    @OfficialGaminGuys Před 12 dny

    You really need a chisel tip when installing RAM. One of the reasons I bought a TS-101 from Ali, it comes with 7 different tips (which are replaceable UK side for £12 each if you burn them out). I cringed when I saw a pointed tip because coverage to the pins is limited (hence your fractures when you attempted to solder them). Doing the 128mb, I don't even remove the heatsinks, just fly through it, just a tip for the future. Keep the solder limited and feed same as you was doing. Certainly interested in the process, will have to reach out see if I can try a set UK side. As always thanks for a nice clear vid and tut. Time to sub

  • @Thewickedjon
    @Thewickedjon Před 12 dny

    tito uploaded a new video?
    0k, time for my weekly therapeutic session.

  • @gabrielbraga7670
    @gabrielbraga7670 Před 12 dny +4

    This mod could really help emulators specially N64, if i remember correctly there is a memory problem when cartridge games are to big for 64mb so the emulator store some files in the HDD slowering the overal performance.

  • @ZeroX252
    @ZeroX252 Před 12 dny +2

    It seems like a 3d-printed jig for bending the interposers gently and evenly could also prevent the issue. I do wonder if just making the interposer a flex PCB instead of a solid PCB wouldn't also work though.

  • @rtbear674
    @rtbear674 Před 8 dny +2

    I upgraded the hardware so it uses nvidia rtx 4080, 64gb ram, nvme ssd, now it run windows too, then can play xbox games.

  • @hiRyan329329
    @hiRyan329329 Před 12 dny

    I remember people doing this a few years back by stacking the original ram modules on top of each other, so even this is a far easier install comparatively. Would love to see where this project ends up once a bios is built to really utilize it as well as some game mods to hopefully make use of it

  • @MrGarryGrey
    @MrGarryGrey Před 11 dny

    I've seen similar mod for Switch. Soldering new NAND and RAM chips, which actually affects game performance and useful in other OS's and emulators it can run. Insanely difficult as chips are way smaller, but super impressive.

  • @knuckles31312
    @knuckles31312 Před 12 dny

    Wow I get to watch this one within an hour of posting!! Hellyeah!

  • @realdragonrude
    @realdragonrude Před 12 dny

    It's always cool to see people finding something new with og xbox when you think everythings been done
    Seamus Blackley is smiling right now

  • @107bande
    @107bande Před 8 dny +1

    Now that the 1GHz CPU Upgrade and the HDMI mod and we got a perfect Xbox

  • @mrwang420
    @mrwang420 Před 11 dny +1

    Lol playing 4K video at 1 fps is hilarious. It's not even that it does it horribly. It's just cool that it can do it at all.

  • @dakotart1984
    @dakotart1984 Před 11 dny +3

    Using a modified xblast chip would allow you to test each memory module one at a time installing it. Refer to Modzville's xblast videos. Popping all 4 chips off and roux chambeau'ing the install of 8 and assuming you'd get them right on the first shot is ambitious. What should be done is remove each stock chip one at a time testing functionality of each in xblast. Replacing them in order, then proceeding to the empty slots. Another thing not covered was emulation and 3rd party software. This is known to have significant performance leaps with a 128mb console. Its also worth noting that module stacking has existed.

  • @ceneblock
    @ceneblock Před 10 dny

    Yeah, using it for Linux\FreeBSD is the only thing that I could think of.
    Maybe in the future, some homebrew can take advantage of it.
    There could be some game speed up by prefetching from the disk drive and putting it in RAM, but that'd be a lot of work to modify the kernel to take proper advantage of what is probably already optimized.

  • @Sun-ut9gr
    @Sun-ut9gr Před 11 dny +3

    Been thinking about this a bit lol. Using flat flex like that is not ideal. I'd suggest castellated terminations for the next interposer revision. The connections would be more secure and the extra real estate can be used to address some of the issues regarding the RAM timings!

    • @jdownj
      @jdownj Před 6 dny

      The issue is that none of the accessible PCB manufacturers will do castellated edges on such a fine pitch… hence the hack

    • @Sun-ut9gr
      @Sun-ut9gr Před 6 dny

      @@jdownj That very well could be a problem. I know it's possible because I've seen fine pitch castellations, but they were on ITAR regulated assemblies.

    • @jdownj
      @jdownj Před 6 dny

      @@Sun-ut9gr that brings up an interesting point. I have no idea if PCB technology is regulated in any way… BUT the board manufacturers that can work down to that small are probably busy doing stuff that is more profitable for them than a hobbyist project like this…

  • @jhonatanrojasbastidas730

    Very good video, although I don't find that mod useless, you can try it with the emulators that you can run on a modified Xbox, I know that the arcade ports run well with 128 megabytes of ram, just as there is an improvement in the N64 emulators and Psone. You could explore how those emulators run along with the Nintendo DS emulator. I like your content a lot. Greetings from Colombia.

  • @ThatOldSchoolMagic
    @ThatOldSchoolMagic Před 11 dny

    In the Game JSRF.
    Try out the Level 99th street. That is one of the bigger stages early on with a lot of open space and many NPCs.
    If there are no issues there than its good.

  • @kevrosbane
    @kevrosbane Před 11 dny

    this isn't the first 256 mod u could place 16 chips on top of each other, but i am glad to see this as its a more fordable and less hassle way to do upgrades these days.

  • @sethinneon
    @sethinneon Před 12 dny

    Watching someone with this level of soldering skill is mesmerizing

  • @sharoyveduchi
    @sharoyveduchi Před 10 dny +1

    ReactOS can run on the original Xbox. 256MB of RAM is more than enough for a normal ReactOS install on a normal PC. If ReactOS got further support, it could eventually be an option for treating your Xbox like a Windows XP PC

  • @danielrhodes7594
    @danielrhodes7594 Před 12 dny

    Great video. I hope that once the bios can be updated it will have a positive effect on the speed, graphics, etc. So does this same concept apply to the Nintendo 64? I noticed that the motherboard has two 2mb chips, but the expansion pak has a single 4mb chip that could possibly used to replace the 2mb chips. With three expansion paks you could take two chips out to put on the N64 motherboard. With a N64 with 8mb instead of 4mb and then add and expansion pak it would have a total of 12mb. Would that improve anything or would bios have to be hacked, updated, etc?

  • @anasevi9456
    @anasevi9456 Před 5 dny

    You should make an ultimate OG Xbox with this ram mod plus a 1.4ghz P-IIIS 512k l2 Tualatin, so we can marvell at all that hilarity of awesome power we cannot yet use

  • @EirikrTinkerTries
    @EirikrTinkerTries Před 5 dny

    I’ve heard of 128MB upgrades but never 256MB! This is amazing! Do… do… you do mail-in upgrades for disabled fans?
    Not to mention the ultimate 1+GHz CPU upgrades (1.5GHz)
    Then a 4TB SSD upgrade, upgrade the VRAM, a Blu ray optical drive, and dual boot the mod launcher/or Linux or FreeBSD/OpenBSD/NetBSD.
    Biggest issue rn is needing someone to reverse engineer the nvidia driver / hardware to properly merge it into the Mesa or Mesa Amber nouveau project for OpenGL acceleration on Linux/*BSD, etc.
    (Honestly would love to see SerenityOS with X11+Mesa full 2D/3D acceleration)
    So then… run one of those operating systems on here… and then have an Xbox emulator running on that… so emulating the games on upgraded native hardware via a UNIX-like OS that also gives us a full desktop OS experience to be used as a Plex front end, TUI Discord frontend, and many more modern but light weight solutions.

  • @mikem1323
    @mikem1323 Před 12 dny +2

    Many years ago, I bought 4 extra RAM chips for the Xbox. After the struggle to put them in, and it makes sense, there was no benefit from what I saw. The software I ran had all been designed for 64megs and had no idea the other memory was there. Maybe some emulators will be written to use it, but most of the older systems already fit into the 64 megs already installed. Would be nice to be able to make a RAM disk as a cache but that seems like a lot of work for very little return.

  • @mysteryguy7716
    @mysteryguy7716 Před 4 dny +1

    There are actualy a lot of versions of this chip. This is the F33 and F2 is the fastest up to 500MHz with 1000Mbps. You should also try the 1.4Ghz Pentium III Upgrade

  • @mrwang420
    @mrwang420 Před 11 dny +1

    Actually with the 256mb of ram it might be possible to do what the new xbox does and that is keep a running game running but in the background while being able to open up and run another game. and be able to switch back and forth between the two. Or even a website loaded in the background.

  • @Floydzabarber
    @Floydzabarber Před 12 dny

    I wonder if this would help in booting the other Sega Chihiro games on the original Xbox. I would like to give it a try. Thanks for the video and thanks to prehistoricman for designer the interposer.

  • @Marco-qr8jb
    @Marco-qr8jb Před 12 dny

    It would be really nice to see if the extra RAM makes a difference with particles and such. In Castlevania Curse of Darkness in the second stage when you kill the dragon a lot of smoke particles appear as the dragon disappears, I don't know about the Xbox but I remember that on the PS2 the smoke particles caused the frames to drop massively. It would be nice to see a comparison between the regular and the modded versions.

  • @StephanieHua
    @StephanieHua Před 12 dny +1

    It’s cool to have more RAM but it only benefits homebrew apps at the moment.
    But at least you can be future-proof for something like a potential modded BIOS that can improve official game performance.
    For now, I am waiting for the ultimate end-game mod to play my “legally purchased” game backups

  • @jcags
    @jcags Před 12 dny +1

    I'm sure another application would be mods that change textures. Nevertheless, it would be interesting to see coupled with the CPU upgrade.

  • @gummy1204
    @gummy1204 Před 9 dny

    Instead of rigid flex, you may be able to use castellated edges as the connection. This would completely solve the bend problem and make the mfr process cheaper.

  • @RavenShinyThings
    @RavenShinyThings Před 11 dny

    Getting a memory upgrade on the Xbox 360 that is utilised would be an amazing mod along side harddrive installed games.

  • @chriskalkman3815
    @chriskalkman3815 Před 10 dny +1

    This will be good for people who just need replacement RAM chips.

  • @aemerox5773
    @aemerox5773 Před 8 dny +1

    This mod could be possible inspiration for the internal 4gb for the Xbox 360. Maybe someday we can see a 500gb or 2tb internal storage mod.

  • @bnbnism
    @bnbnism Před 12 dny +1

    Itd be interesting to see how this could affect a game like Morrowind which is notorious for its memory issue on the original Xbox which caused them to have to restart the system between load screens to fix the issue.

  • @TheLegendryZelda
    @TheLegendryZelda Před 12 dny

    Not being individual pins I think it helps a whole lot better to bend them all at once and it does looks more modern

  • @snoochpounder
    @snoochpounder Před 12 dny

    That’s what makes a true master. Not being afraid to ask for help albeit being an expert oneself.

  • @Ronin7477
    @Ronin7477 Před 10 dny

    Would be interesting to see this in conjunction with a CPU mod, and what could be done with that combo.

  • @luislanga
    @luislanga Před 5 dny +1

    This dude can solder

  • @Aeduo
    @Aeduo Před 12 dny

    I guess I could see it maybe being useful for disk caching and stuff that could maybe help loading times in some games that don't do their own resource management well enough. Otherwise I could see it being useful for homebrew developers to have a bunch of extra debugging tools and stuff in memory during development, but it would imply they're doing kinda AAA game dev.

  • @atranimecs
    @atranimecs Před 11 dny

    watching a beast mode 1.4GHZ CPU + 256MB with custom bios + custom game settings would be a treat