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Here’s an interesting thing, if the Trem unit is balanced correctly and the Trem lock is off and you break a string all you have to do is lock the Trem and the guitar should go back in tune again. Apparently Leo designed it that way.
I'd love to try a Mastery but the thing ends up being $300 Canadian after shipping. I wish Schaller would do their take on the offset-guitar bridge I'd happily pay $90 like their other bridges.
I just got a Squier Classic Vibe Jazzy. It comes stock with a Mustang style barrel bridge. I know a Mastery are superior, but I'm fine with the factory bridge. Works just fine.
@@barkinstarfish When you're spending custom shop money there's an allure to getting something vintage correct. When the specialness of that wears off you can start to notice the playability issues with certain vintage parts. I personally wouldn't do it, but it's probably not as uncommon as it seems.
Stock vintage style Jazzmasters and Jaguars use the “threaded rod” individually adjustable saddles. The other bridge like what was put on is a Mustang bridge. The saddles do not adjust individually, fixed radius. A Mastery bridge is the best option...!!!
FYI for those interested. that switch on a JM vibrato wasn't designed to be a synchronous switch(although you can use it this way). As Dave mentioned, you adjust the spring tension until the guitar is exactly in tune when you slide the switch out. When you tab the switch back in, it should slide exactly under the tab such that you don't even hear a click. The purpose of this design is not to achieve a synchronous vibrato, but to be a countermeasure against string breaks! The JM vibrato is designed to float(and it floats really beautifully when balanced right). If you have the tab switch calibrated properly, if you snap a string, you just throw that switch and the guitar stays in tune so that you can finish the song or set while in tune. Try it! It really works!
I read somewhere that Leo Fender admitted that the threaded saddle bridge was a design flaw. I don't disagree. I did use it on my Jaguar for quite a while. Once I got it set up right, it worked okay for me, but the string spacing never seemed quite right, and the saddles would work their way out of adjustment after a while. I think the Staytrem bridge is what Fender would have done if they had known at the time. Its the best solution IMHO.
From Leo: The original bridges did look like they were made from pieces or threaded rod. I filed the slots deeper with a fine triangle file on a bunch of them, before I found out about the Mustang style bridge. One of mine I have made solid bushings to hold a roller bridge. It is by far more stable, but tradition sells, innovation is considered sacrilege. I always felt if a guy wants a worn looking and feeling guitar, just stop at every pawn shop you can find. They sell worn guitars at those places.
the best thing to do with a Jazzmaster or a Jaguar is to let them be themselves....letter B! (song by the Beatles) Comes right after letter A! Gonna hafta say: best mod: Mastery bridge!!!!
Vintage spec. Fenders have the truss rod nut at the heel. It is inconvenient, but if it works better, then perhaps they got it right in the first place?
Fender and Gibson, even the "Custom Shops" approach is Quantity, NOT Quality. Just my and God knows how many other's opinion on those companies. I adore Fender and Gibson. It is easier to accept what is than stay chronically annoyed with something that you cannot change. Thank God there are people like Dave who do this kind of work to bring these instruments up to how they should be. Thank you Dave for sharing all of this with us.
Enjoyed the video. I always wondered about what the trem on a Jazzmaster looked like inside. I totally agree about the truss rod working better with the adjustment closer to the body rather than the headstock. I found they work better with adjusting the neck properly. Which is why I like how Charvel, Music Man and others do it with the adjustment wheel at the end of the neck. Saves taking the neck off and you can make small adjustments on the fly at a gig if the temperature changes drastically.
That’s a beautifully quirky guitar. While perhaps not as popular as the Telecaster or Stratocaster, the Jazzmaster has a cool all its own. The mint pickguard looks so nice against the rosewood fingerboard!
Howdy Dave ,,good too see your map!,,Thank you so much for the invaluable advice on,,just changing a string at a time,when just changing strings,,when you take all off completely,,,you are in a new arena!
I was hoping you would play the guitar a little and tell us how you liked the strings. How did they feel? How did they play? They were expensive and most of us have probably never heard of them, especially if you haven't. Great video. Thanks for your hard work and passing along tech tips.
The bridge on it looked a standard Jazzmaster but the one you put on looked like a Mustang bridge to me. Trussrod adjustments I think on headstock for ease, vs this vintage Fender way. But fixed if you design a spoke wheel type like Fender did use briefly in the Elite series. One huge disadvantage with headstock adjustment?.... Headstock breaks, unusual in a Fender but common in so many others
fender custom shop guys are for people that think they are experts, when in reality the just want 1k of your money for nothing.. nice guitar and this one went through daves custom shop, and he really makes a difference. great job dave, im not a jazmaster fan but some sound pretty good. the way to judge how good jazzmasters are is how many do you see being played in bands. thats right almost never!!
Staytrem & Mustang > "Memery" bridge. A far east company needs to bang out some mastery clones, or something similar, with decent quality for $30-50 a pop - for fun, I'd bite. They have the ability to make decent machined parts. Hell, Staytrems weren't much more than that price range. Threaded vintage for the vibe though. Hassle to set up, but if you use loctite, you only have to set it up once. I get along with mine fine with heavy use. Not worth it for everyone, I understand. Even mastery bridges are known to sometimes suffer from the "saddle sinking" problem though, so some players have to put loctite on them. Heh funny world.
@@mattrogers1946 Fuck vintage correct. I hacked a channel in the scratchplate of my '65 Tele. A wheel would've been great, but it's pretty much a 21st Century invention.
@@Ndlanding I don't know what the big deal is. So you have to take the neck off once or twice to adjust the rod. Pay someone to do your setup if you can't deal with it.🤷♂️
Also, your being tired of relicing comment made me chuckle. I'm should start telling women that my baldness is a premium feature that people pay more for, hahaha!
Of course hes got $20 strings, That's a $250+ STAYTREM bridge. You cant get them anymore. same w the $100 arm and collet. (oh and the fact it's a $4k CS JM) Edit: you can get them but they're backed up a few months
I love my JM. But that cream color makes me cream in my pants so I need another one. Everyone bitches about the bridge but just shim the neck and shaddup about it. It's a perfect machine and that rocking bridge will actually work for you.
I hate relicing. It's the ultimate poser move. "Cool guitar bro, tell me the stores of how it got all this character" "Well you see this checking here, I paid a lot of money for that. And this fingerboard wear, I paid a lot of money for it. And don't forget about these corroded looking saddles that I paid a lot of money for too"
It's not exactly a car with a starting handle! I mean, how often do you need to adjust the truss rod? My old Tele is stupid-ended, but I haven't touched the rod for years. At worst, you could access it on changing strings. Actually, although all that is true, I hate it.
@@mattrogers1946 I was kinda quoting from Mick Marsbar (above)! I don't think it's "stupid". I still don't like it, though, and I've had my Tele for nearly 40 years. If I said a Mars a day helps you work, rest and play, would that help????? If I said, "I'm replying to the OP who called it the "stupid end"" (yes, that's two sets of quotes because I DO have a fucking memory), would I still need to give you twats reading lessons??? Honestly, if brains were dynamite...
You're scratching some great guitars off your list, then. All three of my Strats have the vintage truss rod adjustment, not because I wanted that feature, but I liked the guitars and they just happened to have it. Not a big deal.
I was shocked, shocked I say, to see a skilled craftsman such as yourself unscrewing the screws for the tremolo plate with a manual screwdriver. Shocked.
Quickest way to make a JM bridge worse is to skip passed the original or mustang bridge and put a TOM style on it like the Vintera Modified. And people seem to love the J Masics JMs and they have em too! Seems bad ideas get turned into reality quite often
Here’s an interesting thing, if the Trem unit is balanced correctly and the Trem lock is off and you break a string all you have to do is lock the Trem and the guitar should go back in tune again. Apparently Leo designed it that way.
A Mastery bridge is the only way to go on a Jazzmaster.
Staytrem for me. Either way, both are a shitload better than the ‘vintage correct’ shite that inexplicably still comes stock these days..
I'd love to try a Mastery but the thing ends up being $300 Canadian after shipping. I wish Schaller would do their take on the offset-guitar bridge I'd happily pay $90 like their other bridges.
The stock bridges aren’t ideal compared to a mastery, but with some locktite and a neck shim they work great
Staytrem4lyf...
I just got a Squier Classic Vibe Jazzy. It comes stock with a Mustang style barrel bridge. I know a Mastery are superior, but I'm fine with the factory bridge. Works just fine.
I've got the heel screw on all my (fender) guitars.. I'm all about that vintage spec, plus the headstock looks cleaner.
“They smoke the best dope there is to smoke” 🤣🤣🤣You always make me laugh at least once
That’s a lot of work for a Custom Shop guitar!
“They smoke the best dope there is to smoke”
That’s exactly what I thought. What confuses me is you can specify exactly what you want when buying it. Unless it was brought pre owned of course.
@@barkinstarfish When you're spending custom shop money there's an allure to getting something vintage correct. When the specialness of that wears off you can start to notice the playability issues with certain vintage parts. I personally wouldn't do it, but it's probably not as uncommon as it seems.
I’ve seen a Custom Shop Strat with sharp fret ends. Maybe the neck dried out, but!! 🤨
Dave messing with tremolos is always interesting😂
Stock vintage style Jazzmasters and Jaguars use the “threaded rod” individually adjustable saddles.
The other bridge like what was put on is a Mustang bridge.
The saddles do not adjust individually, fixed radius.
A Mastery bridge is the best option...!!!
Jazzmaster fanboy here. Looking forward to more offset encounters on DWOFS. Peace!
I came here for the jazzmaster and subscribed for the everything. Wonderful.
FYI for those interested. that switch on a JM vibrato wasn't designed to be a synchronous switch(although you can use it this way). As Dave mentioned, you adjust the spring tension until the guitar is exactly in tune when you slide the switch out. When you tab the switch back in, it should slide exactly under the tab such that you don't even hear a click.
The purpose of this design is not to achieve a synchronous vibrato, but to be a countermeasure against string breaks!
The JM vibrato is designed to float(and it floats really beautifully when balanced right).
If you have the tab switch calibrated properly, if you snap a string, you just throw that switch and the guitar stays in tune so that you can finish the song or set while in tune. Try it! It really works!
I put a “Mastery Bridge” on my original 1963 Fender Jazzmaster, big difference. It’s gold with the matching headstock. Sweeeet guitar, ballsy pickups.
I read somewhere that Leo Fender admitted that the threaded saddle bridge was a design flaw.
I don't disagree. I did use it on my Jaguar for quite a while. Once I got it set up right, it worked okay for me,
but the string spacing never seemed quite right, and the saddles would work their way out of adjustment after a while.
I think the Staytrem bridge is what Fender would have done if they had known at the time. Its the best solution IMHO.
Beauty! Love Jazzmasters; between the tones, that crazy tremolo, and the extreme comfort of the Fender offset body.
I had a Squier Classic Vibe Jazzmaster, lovely guitar!
Now I have an Ultra :D
Classic Vibes aren't bad, it's just the softer metals I didn't like, 50's CV Strat before I went Fender MIM.
From Leo: The original bridges did look like they were made from pieces or threaded rod. I filed the slots deeper with a fine triangle file on a bunch of them, before I found out about the Mustang style bridge. One of mine I have made solid bushings to hold a roller bridge. It is by far more stable, but tradition sells, innovation is considered sacrilege. I always felt if a guy wants a worn looking and feeling guitar, just stop at every pawn shop you can find. They sell worn guitars at those places.
I don’t know about you Dave, but I consider myself vintage.
If you consider yourself vintage, I consider my self authentic. Gibson, play authentic.
I'm veteran, but not a vet.
There’s a creaky sound I can kind of hear, kind of follows me around. I think.
Oh look! Birds out back!
What was your question again?
@@Riverdeepnwide I'll answer your comment in the morning, when I can see what I'm typing.
"They got smart, but they didn't get to smart'!
It does sound good
the best thing to do with a Jazzmaster or a Jaguar is to let them be themselves....letter B! (song by the Beatles) Comes right after letter A! Gonna hafta say: best mod: Mastery bridge!!!!
Best mod is shimmed neck 😉 followed by loctite bridge screws, then staytrem bridge (if obtainable), if required (I run threaded, old style stock)
Vintage spec. Fenders have the truss rod nut at the heel. It is inconvenient, but if it works better, then perhaps they got it right in the first place?
Fender and Gibson, even the "Custom Shops" approach is Quantity, NOT Quality. Just my and God knows how many other's opinion on those companies. I adore Fender and Gibson. It is easier to accept what is than stay chronically annoyed with something that you cannot change. Thank God there are people like Dave who do this kind of work to bring these instruments up to how they should be. Thank you Dave for sharing all of this with us.
Enjoyed the video. I always wondered about what the trem on a Jazzmaster looked like inside. I totally agree about the truss rod working better with the adjustment closer to the body rather than the headstock. I found they work better with adjusting the neck properly. Which is why I like how Charvel, Music Man and others do it with the adjustment wheel at the end of the neck. Saves taking the neck off and you can make small adjustments on the fly at a gig if the temperature changes drastically.
Dave puts the Fender custom shop to shame, not surprised....
The very last tone he had after tweaking was really nice
As long as there are people who are superfluous in nature relic-ing will continue.
It keeps the kids out of the candy store. !!! yep!! The last thing you want is kids turning the truss rod, "What does this do"? SNAP!
Hey those strings do seem to sound kind of nice.
That’s a beautifully quirky guitar. While perhaps not as popular as the Telecaster or Stratocaster, the Jazzmaster has a cool all its own. The mint pickguard looks so nice against the rosewood fingerboard!
I hope you’re happy everyday 🎶
There’s a company that makes low volume production bridge upgrades for them. I’ve seen them on ebay. Properly machined parts.
That's a nice one.
Howdy Dave ,,good too see your map!,,Thank you so much for the invaluable advice on,,just changing a string at a time,when just changing strings,,when you take all off completely,,,you are in a new arena!
Hi Dave great to see your work & hear you talk about fun stuff again 👍🏻
Thanks man.
I agree with you Dave about the relic thing. Guys paying extra money for a Fd up looking guitar. Hahahaaa
Yep those are the era correct bridges for jazzmasters and jaguars. But most punters swapped them out for mustang bridges like what you just did :)
I'll bet there is a hundred different tones in that guitar. Nice one Dave!
Yes. Fender did fit that POS bridge to JM’s & Jaguar’s
I was hoping you would play the guitar a little and tell us how you liked the strings. How did they feel? How did they play? They were expensive and most of us have probably never heard of them, especially if you haven't. Great video. Thanks for your hard work and passing along tech tips.
The bridge on it looked a standard Jazzmaster but the one you put on looked like a Mustang bridge to me.
Trussrod adjustments I think on headstock for ease, vs this vintage Fender way. But fixed if you design a spoke wheel type like Fender did use briefly in the Elite series.
One huge disadvantage with headstock adjustment?.... Headstock breaks, unusual in a Fender but common in so many others
I changed the collet on my Jag a little while back, it was waaaaaay easier than that! Tough break...
Nice!
The mint green guard doesn’t go with that creme off white body, cool guitar though.
glad to see the upload
Grumpy Dave again... bliss!
fender custom shop guys are for people that think they are experts, when in reality the just want 1k of your money for nothing.. nice guitar and this one went through daves custom shop, and he really makes a difference. great job dave, im not a jazmaster fan but some sound pretty good. the way to judge how good jazzmasters are is how many do you see being played in bands. thats right almost never!!
You will see JMs in the future. They are hard to find right now. I think lots of younger people are buying them all.
Why does the whammy bar click? Is it missing a rubber cushion?
All guitars should have the spoke wheel truss rod adjustment at the heel. It's unequivocally the best.
They call me mellow yellow,quite right!
Another beautiful guitar! Thanks!✌️😎🌞🎸
Staytrem & Mustang > "Memery" bridge. A far east company needs to bang out some mastery clones, or something similar, with decent quality for $30-50 a pop - for fun, I'd bite. They have the ability to make decent machined parts. Hell, Staytrems weren't much more than that price range.
Threaded vintage for the vibe though. Hassle to set up, but if you use loctite, you only have to set it up once. I get along with mine fine with heavy use. Not worth it for everyone, I understand.
Even mastery bridges are known to sometimes suffer from the "saddle sinking" problem though, so some players have to put loctite on them. Heh funny world.
Now you're all set to play Cockburn's If A Tree
👍👍😎✌️ Yes, I second that, I want to stop relic- ing. I love the Fender. Pardon me while I catch my drool 🤤.
This whole channel is turning into geezers before our very eyes Dave!
geezers?
@@SgtSteel1 Yeah, guys like you, me and Dave. 😉
@@ToddSauve I didn't think you Canadians used the word geezer! I'm surprised :)
@@SgtSteel1 Yup, we got geezers everywhere! 😋
Those Jazzmasters had a really crap bridge, most everyone replaced them with a Mustang bridge. I think it should have been some kind of roller bridge.
“It’s not Banana Boat Bob”. 🤣
Wouldn't let dave loose on a second hand Harley Benton.
and you as well
what did the elephant say to the naked man??.......How do you breathe through that little thing......
What’s up with all the mint pick guards lately?
Yeah, it's kind of an unrealistic, over-the-top green, but, it looks cool against that yellow.
People like them mint guards. I like am but still red or brown tortoise shell for me
@@timhouston1638 Aged pearl for me.
@@ToddSauve ---Gilmour BLACK for me, since all pickguards are cheap plastic I would rather not make it more noticable, lol
It’s London, Jen. No one brings you cake, unless that cake is made of dog poo and knives!
In a sudden turn of events, Banana Boat Bob learns to fix guitars
Thanks Dave.
Nice one Dave! Would it be too much to hope for a cooking vid anytime soon?
Banana Boat Bob makes banana splits!
A spoke wheel heel adjustment for the truss rod is cats ass, like what's on an EBMM.
Not on a vintage correct guitar.
@@mattrogers1946 I didn't say that they were, did I? I mentioned EBMM.
@@mattrogers1946 Fuck vintage correct. I hacked a channel in the scratchplate of my '65 Tele. A wheel would've been great, but it's pretty much a 21st Century invention.
@@Ndlanding I don't know what the big deal is. So you have to take the neck off once or twice to adjust the rod. Pay someone to do your setup if you can't deal with it.🤷♂️
@@mattrogers1946 I'm perfectly capable, but I don't like disturbing a good set-up if I need to make a small adjustment when it gets Baltic, say.
Dave, I can commiserate, I would not to be a relic myself!!
Also, your being tired of relicing comment made me chuckle. I'm should start telling women that my baldness is a premium feature that people pay more for, hahaha!
I think the 2nd bridge is a mustang bridge. The way to fix the first stock bridge is to use heavy ass strings 13's
My brother's wif has got a heavy ass but when it comes to strings, she (BRB. Someone at the door.)
Dave, what's that new bridge part called? My friend has a J'master and hates the fact that the bar has to be jammed in to avoid falling out.
You did this same guitar In Feb 21????
I'm um...taking medicine from the doctor. I digress all day. I'm also starting to relic, ha! 😸
The older I get, the less I admire my body when I digress. Oh, wait a minute,,,
Is this the same JM that you did few months ago?
Of course hes got $20 strings, That's a $250+ STAYTREM bridge. You cant get them anymore. same w the $100 arm and collet. (oh and the fact it's a $4k CS JM)
Edit: you can get them but they're backed up a few months
@@CORDUROY00 Ok yes looks like you can get them, but they're backed up 2 months. So it'll still cost you if you want it now.
Just put a Mustang bridge on the Jazzmasters and Jaguars.
Dave always does the same thing 😂😂😂 jk i thought that was so funny when i 1st heard you say that
Hi Dave, how do i contact you to have a stripped truss nut replaced on a Fender Squier 5 string bass?
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are there any gooch Tees?
yes Fender did it, if you play it too hard E & B strings start a family :)
Because they fuck? Me, I buy a set of strings and 2 spare Es.
I dig your avatar.
@@CZcamsHandlesAreMoronic thanks....
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@@s76fitz saludos a ti a la buena gente de bruklin!
I love my JM. But that cream color makes me cream in my pants so I need another one. Everyone bitches about the bridge but just shim the neck and shaddup about it. It's a perfect machine and that rocking bridge will actually work for you.
Nice guitar but the colors ... (butter face)!
The candy shop was MADE for kids!
I hate relicing. It's the ultimate poser move.
"Cool guitar bro, tell me the stores of how it got all this character"
"Well you see this checking here, I paid a lot of money for that. And this fingerboard wear, I paid a lot of money for it. And don't forget about these corroded looking saddles that I paid a lot of money for too"
Beautiful, but a truss rod nut at the stupid end is an instant deal breaker for me.
It's not exactly a car with a starting handle! I mean, how often do you need to adjust the truss rod? My old Tele is stupid-ended, but I haven't touched the rod for years. At worst, you could access it on changing strings. Actually, although all that is true, I hate it.
What's the big deal? I have 3 or 4 guitars with the truss rod adjustment in the heel. No biggie.
@@Ndlanding What's stupid about it? You don't have to fool with it all the time.
@@mattrogers1946 I was kinda quoting from Mick Marsbar (above)! I don't think it's "stupid". I still don't like it, though, and I've had my Tele for nearly 40 years. If I said a Mars a day helps you work, rest and play, would that help????? If I said, "I'm replying to the OP who called it the "stupid end"" (yes, that's two sets of quotes because I DO have a fucking memory), would I still need to give you twats reading lessons??? Honestly, if brains were dynamite...
You're scratching some great guitars off your list, then. All three of my Strats have the vintage truss rod adjustment, not because I wanted that feature, but I liked the guitars and they just happened to have it. Not a big deal.
No pickup hum either.
SAme bridge as on my 1966 so its all orig
Hey Dave sell me the bridge you took off I need a spare , Haha
He hates relic because he is a relic! Lmao
Yeah, Fender did that bridge... not one of their proudest moments.
Purdy geetar.
Agreed. I never understood the appeal of having a fake "old" guitar. I mean, what the hell, it's A FAKE!!!!
I was shocked, shocked I say, to see a skilled craftsman such as yourself unscrewing the screws for the tremolo plate with a manual screwdriver. Shocked.
Ai ai ai is like a 9/10?
Dont know Jack about guitar
Vintage does not necessarily mean better...
Banana Boat Bob. That kooky guy. He doesn't fix guitars. He doesn't even play.
If you still have it, I will gladly trade some money in my wallet for that old trem arm and collet...
seems like they are cutting corners to me.
Pisses me off, i see new guitars in shops with Bigsby's etc that do not include actual roller bridges.
Quickest way to make a JM bridge worse is to skip passed the original or mustang bridge and put a TOM style on it like the Vintera Modified. And people seem to love the J Masics JMs and they have em too! Seems bad ideas get turned into reality quite often
Custom Shop guitars don't get the vintage spec 30 degree bevel on the pickguard? Booooo.
"Custom" 🙄
It's a shame because the new Custom Shop Jazzmasters have cool new bridges. Still a stupid design though.
Call me a purist,, but custom shop are just expensive copies. Get back to the factory floor, as Leo prescribed!!
worst strings ever made