Im running the Afterburner in my van, its such a huge improvement over the original controller. My chinese controller only worked half the time and the timers were broken too, so now I`m a happy camper.
Having it run for aprox. 1 year now. Still working amazingly well. Not for everyone I guess but when you want to get most out of your heater it is definitely for you. Even far better than all those Webasto, Eberspächer, Autoterm controllers I saw.
Cheers for the video on changing the bearings on the motor, i changed both bearings on a noisy motor and noticed the same play and noise when spun by hand. I tried a few drops of motorcycle chain oil and it solved the problem. Good byyyyyeeee
Firstly David thanks for the unintentional comedy in the video. I love the way your exactly like me trying to make a explanatory video to help others but things don't all go to plan so you naturally revert to a natural state of normal you. Absolutely hilarious makes for a great watch. Oh and you make some interesting points in the process regarding the standard unit and the addition of the after burner. I think I will be buying one after seeing this. Looking forward to new vids from you. 👍
Yeah I don't really plan a video. I just start and see where it goes. Which does mean sometimes I start making a video and then nothing works and I have to scrap it. But it makes things interesting.
I ordered one a year ago and only just found the bloody thing after moving stuff round and now going to fit this weekend on my van, excellent video as norm, nice jobs bigman 👊🙌
Ordered mine today and have a tracking number.. can’t wait for it to arrive! Ray seems like a nice guy & is actively developing the product so I’m looking forward to experimenting with it.
Another doozy of an episode. David, your candidness and down to earth presentations are such a relief from that vile corporate world of hype and half truths, lies and downright money grubbing arseholery. I've contacted Ray about the unit - thanks. I'm interested in the basic unit...no bluetooth, GPIB, wifi - just want better temperature control in my camper.
I looked at this last year but despite my engineering knowledge, this looked too out of my depth, especially with the software side so glad you're covering it now 👍
Neat to see it uses the esp32. I'm just starting to learn about microcontrollers and thought that making a replacement controller for my heater might be an interesting project in the future.
The Afterburner unit is fantastic, much better than the original heater controller fitted to our RV it has enabled much better control over the Chinese heater with far more functions than the original noisy inefficient blown air LPG system.
I'd Be interested in seeing videos on setting it to auto turn on once the room hits a certain temperature. I want it to compliment my wood stove and have it run either in the night after the fire goes down and during the day when I am at work.
Try injecting kerosene I have been running mine now three years now never had to clean chamber only replaced glow plugs ,really enjoy the show.hope this comment goes to the right vid
David, just a point of order - while you referred to the other company who manufacture a copied version of this product in a derogatory way, here is a perspective on it. The product is built using the GPL license which is open source, so the software is freely available. The circuit schematic is also in public domain. The only part that is Ray's is the board layout. Now while it could be argued that this is Ray's, I don't think he has any copyright on this, so it is or at least can easily be a "free for all". On top of all this the device is made to control Chinese diesel heaters which I'm sure you are aware are a cheap rip -off of the German originals, so it is a little "fresh" to purchase a copied machine and then to reverse engineer it and sell a new controller without ensuring you have the rights to it in the first place. That said it is a great product etc, and Ray has put a lot of effort into it - great work!!
The code is open source, they asked for his board design and he declined. They bought one and copied it anyway and claimed it as their own. While probably legal, still a ripoff of someone else's hard work. They are still shit bags.
I'll stop you right there. First the heaters are not a rip off, Webastos patent has expired on the designs so now anyone can copy and make them. Now if you could point me to where said company are sharing the source code for their controller I'll happily concede that point, but under GPL if you got it for free you have to share your changes for free as well. They literally copied a board of another person. Do you think Apple would be ok if you bought an iPhone and reverse engineered it and started selling a copy?
@@stuartcotterill9475 No it is not just bought the AB off Ray when converted to GB£ by PayPal it was £87 The "Rip Off" one is £149 and it arrived in 6 days
START AT PAGE 1 AND KEEP GOING LOL I JUST BOUGHT A HEATER LIKE YOURS ALL IN ONE IT HAS A ALL ALUMINIUM CASE AND A 4 HOLE OUTLET I WAS BLOWN AWAY ITS ALL ALUMINUM LOOKS GREAT CANT WAIT TO HOOK IT UP !! THANKS FOR ALL YOUR KNOWLEDGE BUDDY !
can it regulate the temperature smoothly? because mine standard control when it is in thermostat mode adjust the temperature by switching from lowest to highest heating output all the time and that's annoying...
@@MrPeiringer best feature is slowly ramping up or down fuel supply and fan speed to maintain a set temperature. Great facebook group with tons of info as well.
I would also be keen to see a video on this working with that unit if it's compatible. See how it works with the water and the heat combind or separate.👍 😁
_Thanks; I went straight to the Afterburner site from your link too, and sent out an email to buy one. The cost is a bit, but it's not if it does as you say. Again thanks!_
@@HorseboxCamper, thanks, and I have already been in contact with him. He's waiting on more supplies and putting people on a list. Thought I would pass that along too.
Read a bit about this controller on their website. Some might find this funny, but as a ‘ yank ‘ I really appreciate that it can operate in Fahrenheit 🤠
As always, love your videos. Would be great to know if you can set it to come on as a frost protection device when away from the heater eg in a camper. Also really REALLY keen to see how one would connect to it over the cellular network and what extra hardware is required. I’m just hoping my heater is compatible after all this lol.
Morning, you asked for suggestions as to questions or things we would like more information on... well ;-) First, I have all in 1 5kw heater similar to your red tall one. The tank fuel take off is 30mm plus up the end so it never uses all the diesel, ok now I know, what are the implications of heater running out of fuel (apart from the obvious) secondly I have a 2m plus temp exhaust pipe exiting the house via a cat flap and angled down, so no condensation build up. I am getting lots of white smoke / steam out of the end and some evidence of soot. I am looking to reduce exhaust length but could do with your expertise in showing / describing setting up the hz and blower settings and their impact on running. My understanding is up the blower settings esp in low to give more air and therefore better combustion, so less soot, but your indepth advice / demo would be great. Many thanks Paul
Just found this video, what a great upgrade for these heaters. Just a quick question does it turn the heater on and off as it reaches temp or does the heater constantly run like the original controller. I love your videos always informative. Thanks for sharing. Steve.
I'm pretty interested in how well Afterburner does actual temp control. Stock 5kW does it so that when outside is -2 to -5 and inside is set to +20°C, it runs full steam to exceed set value, then idles until drops 1 degree below set. Then full steam cycle to idle. For that exterior temps, my campervan does two cycles per hour. That consumes way much more battery charge than needed and likely also more fuel. Really working PI control algorithm would learn the control response and just raise a bit fuel pump bpm and speed up fans accordingly a bit. If Afterburner does that, it'll be excellent replacement. I'm just little worried that heater control board is too much responsible for controlling temps...
I read that it's adjustable. No idea why the stock controller doesn't have PI control, totally ridiculous. Maybe if you're okay with a slower warmup, you could turn down the maximum hz to something more manageable. Kind of a stop gap
Afterburner has a window so you can have a more gradual ramp instead of a bang on - bang off setup. I used mine all of last winter through -50 weather and it worked great.
@@Firebat45 How do you actually make this so? I've read the instructions fully (esp page 43 onwards) - & all it seems to be able to do is go from min to max, in order to maintain a set temp! I bought it in the hopes that it could do *other* than the standard controller, in this specific regard!
Quick question - possibly to be included in a future video: my heater (as probably all heaters) will drop the battery voltage considerably while the glow plug is on - say from 12.4V all the way down to 11.5V. Now I don't mind that, because I know it is temporary, because of the increased draw of the glow plug - as soon as the start up is completed, the voltage goes back up. However, during normal heater operation, I wouldn't want the battery to drop much further than, say 11.9V - as that would really mean draining the battery, not just a temporary voltage drop. Can you find out (or test) if the Afterburner is intelligent enough to distinguish between the two situations - because it wouldn't be of much use either if it aborts the start up when the battery drops during the glow plug activation - or the opposite, if it would let the battery drain all the way down to 11.5V during normal use. I hope the above makes sense.
The battery voltage is not dropping to 11.5 with the glow plug on, that's just the voltage at the end of those long wires. Using thicker shorter wires with less connections, or doubling up, would minimise this low voltage reading.
@ 4:54-- "...and I'm ashamed to say... there is a Scottish company that is selling them as their own kind." I knew from that point on I'd get the real deal from you. Even though I'm an American of Scottish descent I can see things happening in Scotland that would enrage my grandfather. Perhaps that's why he emigrated, he could see it coming.
My Afterburner took just 6 days to arrive I wanted it on "Frost Mode" took about 5 mins to set up and boot up and then about 2 mins to set Frost Mode All in all less than 10 mins set up I have set it to ON at 10Deg and OFF at 12 can now leave it to do its job
2 Questions: 1. Can you hook up a float sensor to this so it tells the controller when to shut off the heater, and will tell me how much fuel time I have left? 2. Could this make running the diesel heaters on Makita Battery/ies easier since it has voltage sense/GPIO input? I intend to use one of these for a backup heat/shop heater at home, and I thought about using it for camping if I can hook up about 3 or 4 tool batteries to pre-heat a tent or small cabin before I get a wood stove going. Sorry if these were already answered. It's funny because something like this oddly excites me.
Heard that Ray has stopped shipping to the UK now because of Brexit. He basically has to become VAT registered and has to pay the UK Government the VAT now
Can someone please tell me how to set up the fuel usage Maximum/warning settings... I cannot figure out how it can know how large of a tank i am using to shut down and give me a warning before it runs dry.. I can not find, where to tell the unit what size tank i have ?
Great vid as ever. I’ve just ordered an Afterburner from down under for my heater. Freeze protection would be great, also setting up the linear frequency temp control - and maybe seeing how much battery power it can save over night? Cheers
Hi David. I would like to see you test out the GPIO functions. I'd like to see how you wire in a digital input using a switch at the tank when you refill it (mine is outside) to reset the fuel used figure in the afterburner, or any other cool features you can think of. I'd also like to see you set up the MQTT broker and see if you can access the AB using just your cellular signal or from a remote location. That I'm really interested in. I'd really like to see Ray add on an API call to allow you to link it with Alexa for voice commands. Love your videos by the way. One last question. I'm running my heater with a 12V power supply and want to incorporate the relay in one of the videos you did, to switch to a small battery in the case of a power failure. I just want to use a small battery just powerful enough to allow the fan to run while it goes into cooling mode before it shuts down as I'm only interested in protecting the ecu from frying. What's the smallest battery I can get away with in terms of amperage as I don't want to use a massive great big car battery. Also would I need a trickle charger on the battery whilst it's on mains power. Again space is at a premium so I want to use a small profile charger. Any suggestions?
Can you put up a video into setting minimum voltage on startup, as I have the same controller you did have but my heater will not produce heat unless van engine being run for approx 2 minutes. Thanks
Seems like a lot of sodding about.......I've just bought one of the 5 kw models and it worked almost straight out of the box etc, and that was by random messing with the control buttons on the screen as the manual was not helpful.
If you can do Video on using the diesel heater on a standard thermostat would be great like a digital thermostat I have a cabin and went to visit and seen my pipes froze. I use my cabin a lot so didn't think to drain the Lines as I wasn't gone long but would be nice to control the temp when I away.
So the question is (for me and you!ha) do I go for a 5kw CDH plus the afterburner, or 4kw Autoterm and comfort controller? Reliability is more important than price to me as we’re going to go to cold places and the Mrs don’t like the cold!lol if our heater packed up she would literally fly home and leave me 😂👍🏼 Happy Christmas mate, appreciate the effort you put in to these sort of videos
@@DavidMcLuckiethe Lavaner is in the post right now 😊 just rewatching this to get familiar with how to setup the afterburner once I hear back from Ray 👍🏼 thanks again
I Like to learn also more on Chinese Diesel water heater ( like your vid recently)..my project want to pre Heat engine and second heat source for an installed Alde heater....
We've tried that. Albeit unsuccessfully. The problem was the exhaust gas was so unmixed the sensor couldn't 'see' well enough to get a true reading. It only picked up really, really rich black smoke or so little fuel it was flaming out. I keep thinking about building a better test setup where the exhaust gas would have time to mix. But then the test setup would alter any tuning if the heater. So it was decided the CO meter was the easiest and most relatable way to tune.
Hi David, Love your videos nothing wrong with the language, if someone acts like ane, Cnut is absolutely appropriate. Ordered an afterburner, looks magic... A couple o questions on other stuff I cannae find, wanting tae rig up a 240/12V transformer as ane on my heaters is in my workshop. Would a neat wee 10A LED transformer do???? An another, I cant seem to get a reliable answer...what is the max length o exhaust really need is 2m, this would go straight up for at least 4 foot??? Keep up the good work, from sunny Glenisla
It’s quite simply a more sophisticated control of the Burner. I was expecting a device that would possibly increase the Burn efficiency or something along those lines. I think it’s a bad Name choice though it may be a better, more effective control panel.
Hi I would love to see a video on you turning the heater on using WiFi only. So you can be miles away from the heater and see the settings and user interface.
Good shot making this video, I was about to buy the Challenger ACLS sells, if my holmebuild setup fails. But now I will go for the Afterburner. 1. It's not a copy of a aftermarket bit. (4th party thing?) 2. Seems to have better features and reviews.
@@DavidMcLuckie Industrial espionage happens everywhere shite patter but it happens... I read somewhere the Aussie guy is not delivering them to the uk due to the brexit rules ???? How else can we get them if not from the Scottish company mate?
i would be interested in, if you run the afterburner in thermostat mode if it has fixed the issue that the heater runs always just in lowest mode and highest mode. it would be nice if it could adjust the temperature smoothly!? thx
Hi everybody, I'm totally brand new to these type of heaters can anyone point me in the right direction of which model is the best to buy, there seems to be so many! And of course where to purchase from, thanks.
Couldnt the australian make the display smaller, I mean its like taking up all the space we have in the room😂 Seriously, why not make a display we can see without readingglasses 😂
Looks pretty good i would like to know more about the frost mode what it can do and how good it is in frost mode and if you can set the desired temperature to come on
Pretty much as you've described. You set the temperature you want frost mode to kick in at and it'll sit there in standby until that happens. Then it'll fire up.
Have Chinese diesel heater with the same stock controller that is mounted on your heater . The problem I'm having is the heater still runs on low heat mode when the set temperature in my RV is satisfied. There for overheating the RV making it very uncomfortable, have to shut the heater off manually and turn back on when he is needed ( not a good design) does the afterburner shut the heater down completely and then restarts at when heat is needed again . Like the thermostat does in my house . Please reply ASAP thank you George
I bought one of these after seeing this video and love it mate 👍🏻 but have you tried running and eberspacher d2/d4 off one? I believe you can run d2 with a chinese ecu😮 would be interesting to see if the amazing afterburner can do eberspächer too 🤔
The only problem is that afterburner it too expensive(and there is something wrong in3 shipping Italy is in south america group and not Europe and shipping is not available).
Just ordered one and reading the manual ready for when it arrives Messages with Ray he seems a real nice guy and verry helpfull Can anyone tell me the easist way to set the "Frost Mode" Its for the greenhouse so I want it to maintain 12 Deg C It looks easy enough to do but any help is appreciated Thanks in advance
As good as these things are, I just don't think they're worth the £100+ price tag. especially when you consider that the afterburner works out more expensive than the heater itself. I think if they cost half as much, he'd sell far, far more units.
That's low-volume production for you. It's just fundamentally more expensive. If someone starts making them in larger volumes (and/or a cheaper location) they will get cheaper.
Great informative vid my friend. Thank you. I wonder if you have an idea on how well these China heaters would work on long-term use. I'm needing constant running heat for weeks or longer at one time. With a larger fuel source and being able to refuel live I will be hoping to operate at a continuous cycle. Let us know if these heaters are good to run long term with no shut downs!
That would be difficult to predict. Based on their price point quality control is fairly low. You might get a heater built with good parts and it runs for months on end for years. But you're also as likely to get one that dies on its second day.
I have a 5KW on the go since last October 2020 in continuous use, all day and night more or less and definitely 24 hours in cold weather. So far so good, I suspect I will start getting noisy bearings or total bearing failure but so far no noises to concern me. Just bought a second one as a back up. Considering the price even if it failed after a year they are superb value.
I set mine up about 2 days ago and it’s been on continuously since then. If you don’t want to spend the money to buy a whole second unit for backup, you can buy all of the internal parts that are likely to fail like a spare fan unit, new control board, combustion chamber, etc. the parts are cheap, something like $25 for a new control board, $20 for the blower assembly.
It looks like the enclosure for the ( portable diesel heater ) is re-purposed from some kind of welder. I've seen alot of chinese products re-purpose cases/enclosures for different electronic devices.
Thanks David - I was having a mare of a day and your use of the C words cheered me up no end! I went to the Afterburner site but confused to if the 8kw or 5kw vehicle heaters could be used - there is no real way of telling which controller board I'd get from an Ebay advert! anyone know?
Hi David. Thanks again for your help in the past. Question, what is the easiest way to ascertain the core module type in a heater. Hope the answer will also be of use to others. Cheers. Jim.
Another question to consider for a future video: what is the power consumption of the original display (and maybe the internal controller in the heater, if that uses power when off?), and that of the Afterburner? And can the Afterburner be switched off? The original display is on all the time - so even a small power consumption will add up in 24 hours - specially in a campervan - where every watt counts - and doubly so in the winter, when there is little solar. It would be good to know. Thank you :-)
Compared with the draw from the fan and fuel pump, the little LCD screen would be practically nothing. I would say less than 1% of total. Not worth worrying about.
If you need any help setting up the mqtt (to control it via the internet) I did ,admittedly a very poor, video showing people how to set it up. Just go to the Facebook page for the afterburner and scroll down it’s a sticky video link :) hope it helps.
I watched that video. Well I tried as Facebook would only let me watch it in small mode, disappeared when I tried full screen. It certainly inspired me to try and set up my own MQTT broker.
I have recently purchased a "discrete" unit (ie, 10l tank separate from heater) and so far it seems to be working OK in my container home, mounted on the wall. I haven't worked out how to set the temperature yet, but the default H1-H6 settings seem to cover my needs. Power consumption is only significant during glowplug operation, so I'm not too fussed about that. Wondering two things: What advantages would this device offer me, and why "Afterburner" - which word specifically applies to secondary combustion of partially burned exhaust gasses - which obviously is not the case here.
By your description of having H1-6 as your heat settings it's unlikely the Afterburner would have been compatible with your ECU anyway. As for the name you'd have to ask Ray.
@@DavidMcLuckie Thanks for the prompt reply. The title "The Afterburner" caught my eye was all. I guess that "Alternative Control Unit" isn't as sexy to sell your (his) merchandise as "Afterburner". After-market, yes. After-burner it is not. Me, I prefer honesty and transparency in advertising, so even tho he's a fellow-Aussie, that's a huge point against him from where I stand. But that's me. Other's might think it's cute, or don't care. As I commented, I purchased a very standard Chinese diesel heater, and I have been trawling through YT for any and all tips from people who've got any experience and advice to offer. All has been interesting and helpful, and your material is well-presented. So far I'm pretty happy with my device. I did all the suggested things (like mounting the pump at a 30º angle), and it fires up with no problems. The clicking isn't a problem, tho the general dB level of the unit (having it inside) is a bit overwhelming. Thing is, I wanted to have it recirculating the air inside as it heats it, rather than sucking in cold air from outside. That turns out to have been a wise choice, because if it really IS pumping 8kW of heat out on H6, then it only JUST keeps ahead of the cold if my slow combustion stove has gone out. Much better than nothing, but not as warm as I'd hoped when I selected the 5-8kW model. Cheers
@@Tassie-Devil If you think you bought an 8kW cheap CDH, you are mistaken or have been conned. No such device exists. The “8kW” versions are basically no different to the “5kW” versions. The 5kW versions are unlikely to deliver 5kW, btw. Mine doesn’t - but I knew/suspected that before I purchased it.
@@oliver90owner Yep, I guess I knew that - more I was naming the title it was sold under, like many. Now I have it running on temp-control (the setting between 6 and 1) it seems to do a good job. I mostly use it for brief cold snaps over shoulder-seasons when it's not worth lighting the wood fire, so it doesn't have to battle snow-level cold. The other innovation which has helped is installing a small fan above the main wood stove, to push hot ceiling-level air back down to floor level and keep things circulating. This has also been effective when I run the diesel heater, so by and large it is fulfilling its purpose.
@@Tassie-Devil Hi again. Running on H1 - H6 is constant pump setting, so constant heat output at the particular setting. If wanting temperature control you need to select that mode with the controller. Mine is lousy in that It doesn’t reduce the heat output until the temperature gets to about 7 Celsius beyond the set temperature. The joys of cheap chinese heaters!🙂
Has anyone managed to get the Afterburner working of their Wifi I can get it to work of its own AP mode but I cannot get it to work in station mode (STA) I am shure it is me but cannot figuire out what I am doing wrong
Altitude setting / comp does not work. Ray Jones tested this extensively. The altitude data is sent to the heater and it never does anything with the data. IIRC Ray injected high altitude info to the heater data stream and it changed nothing.
On the fb page, he mentioned that you can still dial the heater in using a CO detector? In your experience, are you manipulating fuel pump pulse rate and frequency which controls the fan speed? For higher altitude would you just want to slow everything down, less fuel because you have less oxygen?
How much do they cost? Just been on the guys website and it’s so hard to find anything, the website seems like a load of crap. Can’t find it on eBay, can’t find it on Amazon. Can’t find it on the actual guys website, no wonder he got ripped off. He can mention that on his website but not actually how to buy the dam thing. Sorry but I’m just really irritated, Watch the video was really intrigued then just have to go through such a frustrating website to find nothing. Love your videos you’re amazing. I think I’ve watched most of them now.
Im running the Afterburner in my van, its such a huge improvement over the original controller. My chinese controller only worked half the time and the timers were broken too, so now I`m a happy camper.
Having it run for aprox. 1 year now. Still working amazingly well. Not for everyone I guess but when you want to get most out of your heater it is definitely for you. Even far better than all those Webasto, Eberspächer, Autoterm controllers I saw.
Whats the main problems with it?
Nice! I got mine a month ago. Heater was installed today. Installing the AB next. So glad you connected with Ray. He’s so great to work with.
Cheers for the video on changing the bearings on the motor, i changed both bearings on a noisy motor and noticed the same play and noise when spun by hand. I tried a few drops of motorcycle chain oil and it solved the problem. Good byyyyyeeee
Firstly David thanks for the unintentional comedy in the video. I love the way your exactly like me trying to make a explanatory video to help others but things don't all go to plan so you naturally revert to a natural state of normal you. Absolutely hilarious makes for a great watch.
Oh and you make some interesting points in the process regarding the standard unit and the addition of the after burner. I think I will be buying one after seeing this.
Looking forward to new vids from you. 👍
Yeah I don't really plan a video. I just start and see where it goes. Which does mean sometimes I start making a video and then nothing works and I have to scrap it. But it makes things interesting.
I ordered one a year ago and only just found the bloody thing after moving stuff round and now going to fit this weekend on my van, excellent video as norm, nice jobs bigman 👊🙌
Ordered mine today and have a tracking number.. can’t wait for it to arrive! Ray seems like a nice guy & is actively developing the product so I’m looking forward to experimenting with it.
Another doozy of an episode. David, your candidness and down to earth presentations are such a relief from that vile corporate world of hype and half truths, lies and downright money grubbing arseholery. I've contacted Ray about the unit - thanks. I'm interested in the basic unit...no bluetooth, GPIB, wifi - just want better temperature control in my camper.
@@geraldhenrickson7472 WTF?? - what are you smoking my man?
Thanks for all videos you made, I have bough this unit to my heater now, waiting it to arrive from down under. All because of your videos.
Took me about 6secs to spot the classic Impreza STi badges. Good man.
My heater works really good now and to improve it more would be sweet as well . Tks for what you show and hope all is well
Been using that afterburner off ray for 4 months , i never used the cdh ecu, works great with a phone
I looked at this last year but despite my engineering knowledge, this looked too out of my depth, especially with the software side so glad you're covering it now 👍
Neat to see it uses the esp32. I'm just starting to learn about microcontrollers and thought that making a replacement controller for my heater might be an interesting project in the future.
The Afterburner unit is fantastic, much better than the original heater controller fitted to our RV it has enabled much better control over the Chinese heater with far more functions than the original noisy inefficient blown air LPG system.
Glad I'm not the only one that gets the screws in backwards
I thought screws were stripped. But my screw driver was broken. Handle was spinning but not the bit.
App could use Prime pump. I use web site. But pita when phone disconnects wifi due to lack of internet
I'd Be interested in seeing videos on setting it to auto turn on once the room hits a certain temperature. I want it to compliment my wood stove and have it run either in the night after the fire goes down and during the day when I am at work.
Try injecting kerosene I have been running mine now three years now never had to clean chamber only replaced glow plugs ,really enjoy the show.hope this comment goes to the right vid
David, just a point of order - while you referred to the other company who manufacture a copied version of this product in a derogatory way, here is a perspective on it. The product is built using the GPL license which is open source, so the software is freely available. The circuit schematic is also in public domain. The only part that is Ray's is the board layout. Now while it could be argued that this is Ray's, I don't think he has any copyright on this, so it is or at least can easily be a "free for all". On top of all this the device is made to control Chinese diesel heaters which I'm sure you are aware are a cheap rip -off of the German originals, so it is a little "fresh" to purchase a copied machine and then to reverse engineer it and sell a new controller without ensuring you have the rights to it in the first place. That said it is a great product etc, and Ray has put a lot of effort into it - great work!!
The code is open source, they asked for his board design and he declined. They bought one and copied it anyway and claimed it as their own. While probably legal, still a ripoff of someone else's hard work. They are still shit bags.
I'll stop you right there. First the heaters are not a rip off, Webastos patent has expired on the designs so now anyone can copy and make them. Now if you could point me to where said company are sharing the source code for their controller I'll happily concede that point, but under GPL if you got it for free you have to share your changes for free as well. They literally copied a board of another person. Do you think Apple would be ok if you bought an iPhone and reverse engineered it and started selling a copy?
Also, it's slightly cheaper; and has the words DON'T PANIC inscribed in large friendly letters on its cover
Copied version is better and cheaper.
@@stuartcotterill9475 No it is not just bought the AB off Ray when converted to GB£ by PayPal it was £87 The "Rip Off" one is £149 and it arrived in 6 days
START AT PAGE 1 AND KEEP GOING LOL I JUST BOUGHT A HEATER LIKE YOURS ALL IN ONE IT HAS A ALL ALUMINIUM CASE AND A 4 HOLE OUTLET I WAS BLOWN AWAY ITS ALL ALUMINUM LOOKS GREAT CANT WAIT TO HOOK IT UP !! THANKS FOR ALL YOUR KNOWLEDGE BUDDY !
@@geraldhenrickson7472 thats the first all aluminium heater ive seen . very cool though lol
Afterburner is awesome! Been using mine for over 1 year.
can it regulate the temperature smoothly? because mine standard control when it is in thermostat mode adjust the temperature by switching from lowest to highest heating output all the time and that's annoying...
@@MrPeiringer best feature is slowly ramping up or down fuel supply and fan speed to maintain a set temperature. Great facebook group with tons of info as well.
@@ryanh4889 thanks for the info! :)
@@MrPeiringer Afterburner has a Linear HZ mode that does a good job of smoothing out the rollercoaster temp swings
I would also be keen to see a video on this working with that unit if it's compatible. See how it works with the water and the heat combind or separate.👍 😁
_Thanks; I went straight to the Afterburner site from your link too, and sent out an email to buy one. The cost is a bit, but it's not if it does as you say. Again thanks!_
Don’t forget the price is in Australian dollars, for what it does I think it is amazing value.
@@HorseboxCamper, thanks, and I have already been in contact with him. He's waiting on more supplies and putting people on a list. Thought I would pass that along too.
@@FirstSuiGeneris Ray surprised me as I only had to wait 2 weeks before he sent me the invoice after ordering then despatched the next day!
@@HorseboxCamper that's great news, thanks!
Read a bit about this controller on their website. Some might find this funny, but as a ‘ yank ‘ I really appreciate that it can operate in Fahrenheit 🤠
I think that’s awesome cause I also live in the US… and while I know 21 c is about 70 f… I still want to see 70 😅
I subscribed right after that Mrs. Doubtfire greeting. 😂
As always, love your videos.
Would be great to know if you can set it to come on as a frost protection device when away from the heater eg in a camper. Also really REALLY keen to see how one would connect to it over the cellular network and what extra hardware is required. I’m just hoping my heater is compatible after all this lol.
Yes, it's literally got a frost setting in the menu. :)
That'd be a good video, explaining the ° on/off and how much battery it might be using if it's going through a cycle several times a day.
Morning, you asked for suggestions as to questions or things we would like more information on... well ;-)
First, I have all in 1 5kw heater similar to your red tall one. The tank fuel take off is 30mm plus up the end so it never uses all the diesel, ok now I know, what are the implications of heater running out of fuel (apart from the obvious) secondly I have a 2m plus temp exhaust pipe exiting the house via a cat flap and angled down, so no condensation build up. I am getting lots of white smoke / steam out of the end and some evidence of soot. I am looking to reduce exhaust length but could do with your expertise in showing / describing setting up the hz and blower settings and their impact on running. My understanding is up the blower settings esp in low to give more air and therefore better combustion, so less soot, but your indepth advice / demo would be great. Many thanks Paul
Just found this video, what a great upgrade for these heaters. Just a quick question does it turn the heater on and off as it reaches temp or does the heater constantly run like the original controller.
I love your videos always informative. Thanks for sharing. Steve.
'made to explore' posted recently that this controller does indeed shut off the heater - a major improvement IMHO
Congrats on buying one! They are great
I'm pretty interested in how well Afterburner does actual temp control. Stock 5kW does it so that when outside is -2 to -5 and inside is set to +20°C, it runs full steam to exceed set value, then idles until drops 1 degree below set. Then full steam cycle to idle.
For that exterior temps, my campervan does two cycles per hour. That consumes way much more battery charge than needed and likely also more fuel.
Really working PI control algorithm would learn the control response and just raise a bit fuel pump bpm and speed up fans accordingly a bit.
If Afterburner does that, it'll be excellent replacement. I'm just little worried that heater control board is too much responsible for controlling temps...
I read that it's adjustable. No idea why the stock controller doesn't have PI control, totally ridiculous. Maybe if you're okay with a slower warmup, you could turn down the maximum hz to something more manageable. Kind of a stop gap
Afterburner has a window so you can have a more gradual ramp instead of a bang on - bang off setup. I used mine all of last winter through -50 weather and it worked great.
@@Firebat45 How do you actually make this so? I've read the instructions fully (esp page 43 onwards) - & all it seems to be able to do is go from min to max, in order to maintain a set temp! I bought it in the hopes that it could do *other* than the standard controller, in this specific regard!
@@Lucentlens You need to put it into linear Hz mode and give it a window of at least a few degrees.
@@Firebat45 Fantastic buddy! Very many thanks!! This was the main reason that I forked out for these units! 👍🏽👍🏽
Just keep making videos like you do now, they're all interesting. The Aussie voice should end each phase with "Cobber".
I was thinking of another C word. :)
Very much enjoy your videos. Sounding like my 2 favourite CZcamsrs (Clive and AVE) talking about my current obsession
Quick question - possibly to be included in a future video: my heater (as probably all heaters) will drop the battery voltage considerably while the glow plug is on - say from 12.4V all the way down to 11.5V. Now I don't mind that, because I know it is temporary, because of the increased draw of the glow plug - as soon as the start up is completed, the voltage goes back up. However, during normal heater operation, I wouldn't want the battery to drop much further than, say 11.9V - as that would really mean draining the battery, not just a temporary voltage drop. Can you find out (or test) if the Afterburner is intelligent enough to distinguish between the two situations - because it wouldn't be of much use either if it aborts the start up when the battery drops during the glow plug activation - or the opposite, if it would let the battery drain all the way down to 11.5V during normal use. I hope the above makes sense.
That is something I can test.
Brilliant - thank you!
The battery voltage is not dropping to 11.5 with the glow plug on, that's just the voltage at the end of those long wires. Using thicker shorter wires with less connections, or doubling up, would minimise this low voltage reading.
The Aussie Chick's voice far surpasses the Chinese one! 😂👍
Another brilliant video 👍🏻👍🏻
I use afterburner in work van timer are the best nothing beat getting into van no ice or snow and 80 degres in cab............................
Wow... how brilliant. This is as it should be.
I feel like Mr Scott just gave me an engineering lesson.
Hey David, the term you were after at the end was Hysteresis :-)
And PID, being the software routine that learns the behaviour of the overall system.
@ 4:54-- "...and I'm ashamed to say... there is a Scottish company that is selling them as their own kind." I knew from that point on I'd get the real deal from you. Even though I'm an American of Scottish descent I can see things happening in Scotland that would enrage my grandfather.
Perhaps that's why he emigrated, he could see it coming.
My Afterburner took just 6 days to arrive I wanted it on "Frost Mode" took about 5 mins to set up and boot up and then about 2 mins to set Frost Mode All in all less than 10 mins set up I have set it to ON at 10Deg and OFF at 12 can now leave it to do its job
Just spent 15 minutes watching and still don't know what an afterburner is or why I need one for my heater?
I think it's something sexual
Doesn’t do what it sounds like! After burner usually is something that burns up unturned fuel coming out of exhaust!
He says its an aftermarket controller numerous times and even points to what it replaces 😂
david you are the expert can you convert this to heat water.regards. declan
2 Questions:
1. Can you hook up a float sensor to this so it tells the controller when to shut off the heater, and will tell me how much fuel time I have left?
2. Could this make running the diesel heaters on Makita Battery/ies easier since it has voltage sense/GPIO input?
I intend to use one of these for a backup heat/shop heater at home, and I thought about using it for camping if I can hook up about 3 or 4 tool batteries to pre-heat a tent or small cabin before I get a wood stove going.
Sorry if these were already answered. It's funny because something like this oddly excites me.
Heard that Ray has stopped shipping to the UK now because of Brexit.
He basically has to become VAT registered and has to pay the UK Government the VAT now
Yeah, that seems to be the thing now.
Can someone please tell me how to set up the fuel usage Maximum/warning settings... I cannot figure out how it can know how large of a tank i am using to shut down and give me a warning before it runs dry.. I can not find, where to tell the unit what size tank i have ?
Great vid as ever.
I’ve just ordered an Afterburner from down under for my heater. Freeze protection would be great, also setting up the linear frequency temp control - and maybe seeing how much battery power it can save over night? Cheers
Just ordered mine I want to set frost mode for greenhouse was it easy to do
@@michaelbailey7112 how did you order it please
love what you do ;but i feel you would be better off with a gasland 12v propain on call hot water heater. it runs until you run out of gas or water.
@@geraldhenrickson7472 sorry, should have mentioned mine is for a house.
Hi David. I would like to see you test out the GPIO functions. I'd like to see how you wire in a digital input using a switch at the tank when you refill it (mine is outside) to reset the fuel used figure in the afterburner, or any other cool features you can think of. I'd also like to see you set up the MQTT broker and see if you can access the AB using just your cellular signal or from a remote location. That I'm really interested in. I'd really like to see Ray add on an API call to allow you to link it with Alexa for voice commands. Love your videos by the way. One last question. I'm running my heater with a 12V power supply and want to incorporate the relay in one of the videos you did, to switch to a small battery in the case of a power failure. I just want to use a small battery just powerful enough to allow the fan to run while it goes into cooling mode before it shuts down as I'm only interested in protecting the ecu from frying. What's the smallest battery I can get away with in terms of amperage as I don't want to use a massive great big car battery. Also would I need a trickle charger on the battery whilst it's on mains power. Again space is at a premium so I want to use a small profile charger. Any suggestions?
Can you put up a video into setting minimum voltage on startup, as I have the same controller you did have but my heater will not produce heat unless van engine being run for approx 2 minutes. Thanks
is it possible to run 2 dieselheaters on 1 controller maybe you can test it
Why am I 10 minutes in before you've actually explained what this thing does.
Seems like a lot of sodding about.......I've just bought one of the 5 kw models and it worked almost straight out of the box etc, and that was by random messing with the control buttons on the screen as the manual was not helpful.
GOOD MORNING DUDE SHOW ME WHAT YOU GOT !
If you can do Video on using the diesel heater on a standard thermostat would be great like a digital thermostat I have a cabin and went to visit and seen my pipes froze. I use my cabin a lot so didn't think to drain the
Lines as I wasn't gone long but would be nice to control the temp when I away.
was just looking into using a webasto climate controller on my jina heater. NICE
So the question is (for me and you!ha) do I go for a 5kw CDH plus the afterburner, or 4kw Autoterm and comfort controller?
Reliability is more important than price to me as we’re going to go to cold places and the Mrs don’t like the cold!lol if our heater packed up she would literally fly home and leave me 😂👍🏼
Happy Christmas mate, appreciate the effort you put in to these sort of videos
Why not a Lavaner Pro heater and an Afterburner. High quality heater and afterburner compatible.
@@DavidMcLuckiethe Lavaner is in the post right now 😊 just rewatching this to get familiar with how to setup the afterburner once I hear back from Ray 👍🏼 thanks again
I Like to learn also more on Chinese Diesel water heater ( like your vid recently)..my project want to pre Heat engine and second heat source for an installed Alde heater....
Cool! Can you show us how it can be connected to a WiFi network so the heater can be controlled like this.
i wonder iff you can tru to save more from the exhaust form webast like put on some radiator and fan
You know what it would be so nice to have a lambda probe to check the optimum burn 🔥 of all these diesel heaters
We've tried that. Albeit unsuccessfully. The problem was the exhaust gas was so unmixed the sensor couldn't 'see' well enough to get a true reading. It only picked up really, really rich black smoke or so little fuel it was flaming out.
I keep thinking about building a better test setup where the exhaust gas would have time to mix. But then the test setup would alter any tuning if the heater. So it was decided the CO meter was the easiest and most relatable way to tune.
Hi David, Love your videos nothing wrong with the language, if someone acts like ane, Cnut is absolutely appropriate. Ordered an afterburner, looks magic... A couple o questions on other stuff I cannae find, wanting tae rig up a 240/12V transformer as ane on my heaters is in my workshop. Would a neat wee 10A LED transformer do????
An another, I cant seem to get a reliable answer...what is the max length o exhaust really need is 2m, this would go straight up for at least 4 foot???
Keep up the good work, from sunny Glenisla
It’s quite simply a more sophisticated control of the Burner. I was expecting a device that would possibly increase the Burn efficiency or something along those lines. I think it’s a bad Name choice though it may be a better, more effective control panel.
The clue was in the title though.
Hi I would love to see a video on you turning the heater on using WiFi only. So you can be miles away from the heater and see the settings and user interface.
Good shot making this video, I was about to buy the Challenger ACLS sells, if my holmebuild setup fails. But now I will go for the Afterburner.
1. It's not a copy of a aftermarket bit. (4th party thing?)
2. Seems to have better features and reviews.
Challenger are the thieving cunts that stole the design and are selling it as their own.
@@DavidMcLuckie so they are the company you mentioned. That is cheeky as fuck to reverse Engineer something and then say you did it!!
@@DavidMcLuckie
Industrial espionage happens everywhere shite patter but it happens... I read somewhere the Aussie guy is not delivering them to the uk due to the brexit rules ???? How else can we get them if not from the Scottish company mate?
Very informative David. Thank you 🙏
From what I understand from the website, you cannot operate this after burner on an Apple device ??
Not checked the the price yet but I think Fafy Bubs needs one of these, or does he already have one? You diesel heater crazy..!! 😀🇳🇿💪🧟♂️😜😂
i would be interested in, if you run the afterburner in thermostat mode if it has fixed the issue that the heater runs always just in lowest mode and highest mode. it would be nice if it could adjust the temperature smoothly!? thx
What Ryan H said. :)
Hi everybody, I'm totally brand new to these type of heaters can anyone point me in the right direction of which model is the best to buy, there seems to be so many! And of course where to purchase from, thanks.
Couldnt the australian make the display smaller, I mean its like taking up all the space we have in the room😂
Seriously, why not make a display we can see without readingglasses 😂
Looks pretty good i would like to know more about the frost mode what it can do and how good it is in frost mode and if you can set the desired temperature to come on
Pretty much as you've described. You set the temperature you want frost mode to kick in at and it'll sit there in standby until that happens. Then it'll fire up.
Have Chinese diesel heater with the same stock controller that is mounted on your heater . The problem I'm having is the heater still runs on low heat mode when the set temperature in my RV is satisfied. There for overheating the RV making it very uncomfortable, have to shut the heater off manually and turn back on when he is needed ( not a good design) does the afterburner shut the heater down completely and then restarts at when heat is needed again . Like the thermostat does in my house . Please reply ASAP thank you George
That is one of the options on the Afterburner, it will turn the heater all the way off and start it back it up again.
I bought one of these after seeing this video and love it mate 👍🏻 but have you tried running and eberspacher d2/d4 off one? I believe you can run d2 with a chinese ecu😮 would be interesting to see if the amazing afterburner can do eberspächer too 🤔
Mine came in the mail today!
It would appear shipping to the UK is not possible, according to the website :-(
Hi I've just follow the link for Ray but it's saying not shipping to the UK love your vids
He does sometimes if you ask nice or can arrange a group buy. Except just now as the global chip shortage is starting to bite.
The only problem is that afterburner it too expensive(and there is something wrong in3 shipping Italy is in south america group and not Europe and shipping is not available).
Can one use The fan in it without the heating with it?
I imagine it can order lunch aswell...
Yes ! More videos on afterburner. Thanks
Just ordered one and reading the manual ready for when it arrives Messages with Ray he seems a real nice guy and verry helpfull
Can anyone tell me the easist way to set the "Frost Mode"
Its for the greenhouse so I want it to maintain 12 Deg C It looks easy enough to do but any help is appreciated
Thanks in advance
class video as always I took you advice and I ordered from ray . Friend have you any more videos on this
As good as these things are, I just don't think they're worth the £100+ price tag. especially when you consider that the afterburner works out more expensive than the heater itself.
I think if they cost half as much, he'd sell far, far more units.
That's low-volume production for you. It's just fundamentally more expensive. If someone starts making them in larger volumes (and/or a cheaper location) they will get cheaper.
Great informative vid my friend. Thank you. I wonder if you have an idea on how well these China heaters would work on long-term use. I'm needing constant running heat for weeks or longer at one time. With a larger fuel source and being able to refuel live I will be hoping to operate at a continuous cycle. Let us know if these heaters are good to run long term with no shut downs!
That would be difficult to predict. Based on their price point quality control is fairly low. You might get a heater built with good parts and it runs for months on end for years. But you're also as likely to get one that dies on its second day.
@@DavidMcLuckie I fully understand. Thanks D 🙂
I have a 5KW on the go since last October 2020 in continuous use, all day and night more or less and definitely 24 hours in cold weather. So far so good, I suspect I will start getting noisy bearings or total bearing failure but so far no noises to concern me. Just bought a second one as a back up. Considering the price even if it failed after a year they are superb value.
I set mine up about 2 days ago and it’s been on continuously since then. If you don’t want to spend the money to buy a whole second unit for backup, you can buy all of the internal parts that are likely to fail like a spare fan unit, new control board, combustion chamber, etc. the parts are cheap, something like $25 for a new control board, $20 for the blower assembly.
@@MittyNuke1 good planning with the spare parts.
Thanks, good luck!
David - just came across this. Can you get more heat out of these heaters by whacking up the frequency of the pump pulses?
It looks like the enclosure for the ( portable diesel heater ) is re-purposed from some kind of welder. I've seen alot of chinese products re-purpose cases/enclosures for different electronic devices.
I also thought it looked like a welder housing.
@@DavidMcLuckie nothing wrong with it, if it does the job tho!
Thanks David - I was having a mare of a day and your use of the C words cheered me up no end! I went to the Afterburner site but confused to if the 8kw or 5kw vehicle heaters could be used - there is no real way of telling which controller board I'd get from an Ebay advert! anyone know?
That is a problem. Especially now they are making a shite controller that looks exactly like the good one, until you turn it on or look at the board.
@@DavidMcLuckie bugger - I do not have the funds to keep buying various 8kw heaters until I find the 'one'
When I bought my heater it came with a incompatible ecu so I bought a compatible ecu for $15 from aliexpress. Now It works perfectly with afterburner
Any idea on timescales for next Afterburner video?
Great stuff,
Geaham
How or where do I buy one? Couldn't even find it on the afterburner site. Thanks
Hi.
Can u make a vid about frost mode and timer?
Hi David. Thanks again for your help in the past. Question, what is the easiest way to ascertain the core module type in a heater. Hope the answer will also be of use to others. Cheers. Jim.
Other than opening the heater and having a look and being able to compare to the Afterburner site, there isn't an easy way to tell.
Another question to consider for a future video: what is the power consumption of the original display (and maybe the internal controller in the heater, if that uses power when off?), and that of the Afterburner? And can the Afterburner be switched off? The original display is on all the time - so even a small power consumption will add up in 24 hours - specially in a campervan - where every watt counts - and doubly so in the winter, when there is little solar. It would be good to know. Thank you :-)
^ this, please
Compared with the draw from the fan and fuel pump, the little LCD screen would be practically nothing. I would say less than 1% of total. Not worth worrying about.
I just ordered one!
I have one but need new wiring for it.
If you need any help setting up the mqtt (to control it via the internet) I did ,admittedly a very poor, video showing people how to set it up. Just go to the Facebook page for the afterburner and scroll down it’s a sticky video link :) hope it helps.
I watched that video. Well I tried as Facebook would only let me watch it in small mode, disappeared when I tried full screen. It certainly inspired me to try and set up my own MQTT broker.
I have recently purchased a "discrete" unit (ie, 10l tank separate from heater) and so far it seems to be working OK in my container home, mounted on the wall.
I haven't worked out how to set the temperature yet, but the default H1-H6 settings seem to cover my needs. Power consumption is only significant during glowplug operation, so I'm not too fussed about that.
Wondering two things: What advantages would this device offer me, and why "Afterburner" - which word specifically applies to secondary combustion of partially burned exhaust gasses - which obviously is not the case here.
By your description of having H1-6 as your heat settings it's unlikely the Afterburner would have been compatible with your ECU anyway. As for the name you'd have to ask Ray.
@@DavidMcLuckie Thanks for the prompt reply.
The title "The Afterburner" caught my eye was all. I guess that "Alternative Control Unit" isn't as sexy to sell your (his) merchandise as "Afterburner". After-market, yes. After-burner it is not.
Me, I prefer honesty and transparency in advertising, so even tho he's a fellow-Aussie, that's a huge point against him from where I stand. But that's me. Other's might think it's cute, or don't care.
As I commented, I purchased a very standard Chinese diesel heater, and I have been trawling through YT for any and all tips from people who've got any experience and advice to offer.
All has been interesting and helpful, and your material is well-presented.
So far I'm pretty happy with my device. I did all the suggested things (like mounting the pump at a 30º angle), and it fires up with no problems.
The clicking isn't a problem, tho the general dB level of the unit (having it inside) is a bit overwhelming.
Thing is, I wanted to have it recirculating the air inside as it heats it, rather than sucking in cold air from outside.
That turns out to have been a wise choice, because if it really IS pumping 8kW of heat out on H6, then it only JUST keeps ahead of the cold if my slow combustion stove has gone out.
Much better than nothing, but not as warm as I'd hoped when I selected the 5-8kW model.
Cheers
@@Tassie-Devil If you think you bought an 8kW cheap CDH, you are mistaken or have been conned. No such device exists. The “8kW” versions are basically no different to the “5kW” versions. The 5kW versions are unlikely to deliver 5kW, btw. Mine doesn’t - but I knew/suspected that before I purchased it.
@@oliver90owner Yep, I guess I knew that - more I was naming the title it was sold under, like many. Now I have it running on temp-control (the setting between 6 and 1) it seems to do a good job.
I mostly use it for brief cold snaps over shoulder-seasons when it's not worth lighting the wood fire, so it doesn't have to battle snow-level cold.
The other innovation which has helped is installing a small fan above the main wood stove, to push hot ceiling-level air back down to floor level and keep things circulating. This has also been effective when I run the diesel heater, so by and large it is fulfilling its purpose.
@@Tassie-Devil Hi again. Running on H1 - H6 is constant pump setting, so constant heat output at the particular setting. If wanting temperature control you need to select that mode with the controller. Mine is lousy in that It doesn’t reduce the heat output until the temperature gets to about 7 Celsius beyond the set temperature. The joys of cheap chinese heaters!🙂
Has anyone managed to get the Afterburner working of their Wifi I can get it to work of its own AP mode but I cannot get it to work in station mode (STA) I am shure it is me but cannot figuire out what I am doing wrong
Finally got it to work on wifi (think it must have been me)just followed instructions slowly and surely "tarada" it connected
#1 for me is altitude settings/compensation
Altitude setting / comp does not work. Ray Jones tested this extensively. The altitude data is sent to the heater and it never does anything with the data. IIRC Ray injected high altitude info to the heater data stream and it changed nothing.
On the fb page, he mentioned that you can still dial the heater in using a CO detector?
In your experience, are you manipulating fuel pump pulse rate and frequency which controls the fan speed?
For higher altitude would you just want to slow everything down, less fuel because you have less oxygen?
How much do they cost?
Just been on the guys website and it’s so hard to find anything, the website seems like a load of crap. Can’t find it on eBay, can’t find it on Amazon. Can’t find it on the actual guys website, no wonder he got ripped off. He can mention that on his website but not actually how to buy the dam thing. Sorry but I’m just really irritated, Watch the video was really intrigued then just have to go through such a frustrating website to find nothing.
Love your videos you’re amazing. I think I’ve watched most of them now.
He just makes them as a hobby.