Trying Out My Lee In Ranked... SHINRYU RANK YEE BOI

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Komentáře • 207

  • @syaredzaashrafi1101
    @syaredzaashrafi1101 Před 5 měsíci +106

    combo note for me
    0:53 ch launcher combo into rage art
    2:02 heat dash combo into rage art
    14:19 while standing into heat combo into wall
    17:07 heat dash combo
    23:32 gatling kick combo
    31:45 & 31:53 basic launcher combo
    32:44 low into high kick ch launcher combo
    41:08 basic launcher combo into wall #1
    41:35 basic launcher combo into wall #2
    41:47 wall splat combo
    42:17 heat dash combo into wall

    • @Stormder
      @Stormder Před 5 měsíci +5

      Ty for time stamps, currently trying to learn lee so this is very much appreciated

    • @hso5485
      @hso5485 Před 5 měsíci +2

      Thanks so cool

    • @orionkyunarukami1918
      @orionkyunarukami1918 Před 2 měsíci +1

      ur going to hvn buddy

  • @LordRaptor
    @LordRaptor Před 5 měsíci +161

    Ah, I see Mainman is a man of culture and has recreated Lee's secondary outfit from Tekken 4.

    • @ShadowMark3_
      @ShadowMark3_ Před 5 měsíci +11

      He did say that was his favorite Lee outfit out of all the games

    • @Cosmic0101
      @Cosmic0101 Před 5 měsíci +2

      did he customize it by himself or is it a mod?

    • @ShadowMark3_
      @ShadowMark3_ Před 5 měsíci +7

      @@Cosmic0101 himself

    • @xodiac-gg7049
      @xodiac-gg7049 Před 5 měsíci +21

      ​@@Cosmic0101this game has really good customization

    • @PG-20
      @PG-20 Před 5 měsíci +6

      Lee's T4 outfit us pure class

  • @LightTrack-
    @LightTrack- Před 5 měsíci +74

    Holy fuck i swear watching this guy fighting is the most entertaining shit i've seen in all fighting games. That Reina match was so intense it truly felt like 2 warriors going at it.

    • @OK-JAI
      @OK-JAI Před 5 měsíci +15

      U should watch brawpro, and miirio as well, so entertaining while playing I love the interactions

    • @MoltenBoii
      @MoltenBoii Před 5 měsíci +8

      @@OK-JAIbrawlpro's laugh's gotta be one of the most contagious laughs I've ever heard 😂

  • @DontEvenLiftBro
    @DontEvenLiftBro Před 5 měsíci +38

    Opponent does one electric… “This guy is really good, great electrics”

    • @soJellyman
      @soJellyman Před 5 měsíci +5

      You're not very smart

    • @DontEvenLiftBro
      @DontEvenLiftBro Před 5 měsíci +3

      @@soJellyman That’s literally what he does, gomd fruit

    • @johmwikk1292
      @johmwikk1292 Před 5 měsíci +17

      Don't listen to that other guy. I think you're smart

    • @clavicusvile1328
      @clavicusvile1328 Před 5 měsíci +32

      Don't listen to the guy who disagreed with the original guy. I don't think you're smart.

    • @Chameleon_daddi
      @Chameleon_daddi Před 5 měsíci

      ​@@johmwikk1292😂

  • @nixuniverse5240
    @nixuniverse5240 Před 5 měsíci +45

    Personally I think this games ranked point distribution system can use some work, because from what I’ve noticed it seems random. You win 10+ matches and barely get anywhere, lose 3 and you’re back where you started.

    • @michaelpacheco6549
      @michaelpacheco6549 Před 5 měsíci +11

      Literally. Fought tooth and nail to get to mighty ruler getting 1-200 points on win and losing 400+ on loss.

    • @Ginkochin
      @Ginkochin Před 5 měsíci

      if u win 3 in a row u get a decent amount of points , if u lose 3 in a row idk , i guess is the same?

    • @NanoAffect
      @NanoAffect Před 5 měsíci +22

      if I lose I lose 0 lmao imagine being high enough rank to derank. couldn't be me.

    • @michaelpacheco6549
      @michaelpacheco6549 Před 5 měsíci +2

      @@NanoAffect lmao you’ll get there bro

    • @dragborn926
      @dragborn926 Před 5 měsíci +2

      I went on a 11 win streak first time on ranked and ended up warrior by the end

  • @IeuroI
    @IeuroI Před 5 měsíci +25

    fuck, your lee skills are good.
    your fundementals are good, and how to accurately read your opponents and it's so sick to watch. i just finished watching you wax dragunov.
    i watch a few other lee main streamers and what i think is so cool is that despite the juggle combos largely being similar, all of you guys implement your fundementals differently and effectively, so while you're all playing lee, it seems like a totally different character depending on who im watching.
    well done mate

  • @Arnuld15Governator
    @Arnuld15Governator Před 5 měsíci +35

    20:25 as a red ranked Yoshi I can answer that. Because in heat it's incredibly fast, really good damage and it throws off most opponents who are not familiar with Yoshi. Also since Yoshi does not have many good openers that can't be spotted from a mile away, you will see many Yoshis resort to grabbing especially considering how risky his tool kit is. Thank Namco for that.
    Edit: Aris is trying to tell everyone how good grabs are in T8 to rank up and since he plays Yoshi you can put the two and two together.
    Double edit: After the heat engager for all my Yoshi mains out there, even if they block your heat engage hold up to transition to Manji Dragonfly. You get a true 50/50 and you're welcome.

    • @AboveElevated
      @AboveElevated Před 5 měsíci +1

      Yoshi main here. Which 50/50 do you prefer after the up, after the heat smash? If the opponent blocks, f1+2 wont work, 4 wont work and 1 wont work. Only 3 or 3+4 grab

    • @Arnuld15Governator
      @Arnuld15Governator Před 5 měsíci +3

      @@AboveElevated I like going into the Rainbow grab which is up forward 1 + 2 because it throws off most players when they get pressured.

  • @EliteFreeman
    @EliteFreeman Před 5 měsíci +19

    21:30 frame by frame is perfect damn. excellent

  • @chara8955
    @chara8955 Před 5 měsíci +58

    Mom, I'm in TV.
    GGs, TMM!

  • @JoelOman1980
    @JoelOman1980 Před 5 měsíci +5

    Lee is so cool. Ever since he pulled up in his tux in Tekken 1. He's been a fav of the franchise. A gentleman fighting is always so stylish! 🤩🎩

  • @chucklos391
    @chucklos391 Před 5 měsíci +8

    Lee’s “YEE” scream kills me with laughter!

  • @rangodash
    @rangodash Před 4 měsíci +3

    Holy shit, respect MM. as a lee player, your lee is CLEAN to the next level. Very impressive

  • @dannyrpt
    @dannyrpt Před 5 měsíci +166

    If you'd go up against a slightly decent Jack, you'd get stunlocked to oblivion 💀💀💀

    • @makstv9438
      @makstv9438 Před 5 měsíci +12

      He avoids fighting good players. All he does is bully low ranks since launch..

    • @warfighter1988
      @warfighter1988 Před 5 měsíci +26

      I thought it was just me but jack 8 is crazy in this game. You just stuck in stuns the whole fucking time

    • @dannyrpt
      @dannyrpt Před 5 měsíci +3

      ​​@@warfighter1988you can't really do anything either since broski has area of effects now💀

    • @jeisama7060
      @jeisama7060 Před 5 měsíci +106

      @@makstv9438he fought and beat Arslan Ash. So this comment is kinda stupid

    • @GramdalfFGC
      @GramdalfFGC Před 5 měsíci +59

      @@makstv9438when you play ranked you have to you know rank up? Which means experienced players will play newcomers at first.

  • @yagami999913
    @yagami999913 Před 5 měsíci +2

    21:30 : That's not the first time i see that interaction. It happened to me A LOT vs a friend who mains Lee. Not sure if it's intentional or not but there's no reason for the rage art to miss in that situation ... 😅

  • @geese1717
    @geese1717 Před 5 měsíci +2

    bb4 into rage art after tornado or bb4 into heat smash for combo extension

  • @lostdreamer50
    @lostdreamer50 Před 5 měsíci +8

    mainman faced like, the scrubbiest red rankers ever. Meanwhile when I played I got red rankers playing like tournmenet players lol

    • @acecun6202
      @acecun6202 Před 5 měsíci +2

      Some of them definitely played crazy for red ranks, the Yoshi and Reina are two big ones that come to mind

    • @kingkino2116
      @kingkino2116 Před 5 měsíci

      ​@@acecun6202the reina was mid he just doesnt know the matchup yet. They were throwing out all kinds of launch punishable nonsense

  • @YatiAcharya
    @YatiAcharya Před 5 měsíci

    Gotta love that wall 1 wall 2 combo 😂🔥

  • @chidubem826
    @chidubem826 Před 3 měsíci +1

    2:27 we need to check MainMan's search history at this point

  • @aronfielding9446
    @aronfielding9446 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Nice Lee gameplay, surprised your not using f4, 1 though..it can be ducked but is a decent frame trap on perfect input

  • @DennisTheZZZ
    @DennisTheZZZ Před 5 měsíci +2

    Quite fitting that you put a Lee video on Rose Monday 🌹

  • @ayoxen4031
    @ayoxen4031 Před 5 měsíci +2

    I guess that's why orange/red ranks feel so hard compared to yellow

  • @shinxiv
    @shinxiv Před 5 měsíci +2

    "I don't know if I played a single Jack yet"
    Meanwhile me, I've fought more yoshimitsu, xiaoyus, shaheeds, jacks (essentially the least played characters in rank imho) in the past week than the hundred of hours of tekken 7 I played in rank.
    At this point, I've fought more Kumas than Kazuyas (in red ranks?) which feels odd to me.

  • @LwT-
    @LwT- Před 5 měsíci +1

    You reckon lee still counters mishimas in T8 as you said in T7

  • @devilquake_
    @devilquake_ Před 5 měsíci +4

    Same, never met a Jack 😅

  • @apexsteelo7787
    @apexsteelo7787 Před 5 měsíci

    I can’t wait for you to play Yoshi you’re going to have so much fun. +17 heat engage into u2 is nye guaranteed

  • @misellus3931
    @misellus3931 Před 4 měsíci

    god, running 3 4 being a rage art crusher is so fucking good
    i remember clutching the fifth round with it and i splooged

  • @bloodxredx99
    @bloodxredx99 Před 5 měsíci

    I'm so happy people are enjoying lee ❤

  • @christhornton390
    @christhornton390 Před 5 měsíci +5

    What up CZcams MAINMan SWE Hope you doing awesome always and lee ranked shiryu red ranked climb combo insane and see you next video take care

  • @xXDeezSlayerXx
    @xXDeezSlayerXx Před 5 měsíci +3

    let's go my boy lee!!!

  • @federicoramirez2466
    @federicoramirez2466 Před 5 měsíci

    More of these ranked videos with individual characters on CZcams plz

  • @DOSFrost
    @DOSFrost Před 5 měsíci +1

    Heat engage into throw? I'm thinking because a lot of people ranking up will heat burst right after their opponents do a heat engage to take their turn back. Throws > heat burst

    • @acecun6202
      @acecun6202 Před 5 měsíci

      To answer your question- high ranking Yoshi’s do it because it’s the absolute LEAST televised option they have that’s fast and forces someone to guess. You never know which throw is going to come so ironically due to Yoshimitsu’s move set it’s the best option to go with

    • @kingkino2116
      @kingkino2116 Před 5 měsíci

      Heat burst into throw maybe, but heat engage youre + enough to just hit them before they get armor

  • @OreskisVR
    @OreskisVR Před 5 měsíci +1

    Lee Is My Main, He Has Been For Years🔥👍. Any Tips To Get Better MainManSWE?🤔

  • @parkery27368
    @parkery27368 Před 5 měsíci +4

    New to tekken and fighting games in general. Been playing Azucena and I really like her but I really want to play Lee as I think he is really cool and looks fun to play. I am discouraged because everyone says Lee is one of the hardest if not the hardest characters in the game. Should i give it a go or should I try to learn other characters/ stick with azucena for the time being

    • @IsoDgaf
      @IsoDgaf Před 5 měsíci +3

      Learn both. It’s okay to take on two characters.

    • @Nodnarb59
      @Nodnarb59 Před 5 měsíci +1

      I'm pretty new too, and I'm learning Feng, Leroy, and Lee. Lee does have some perfect inputs, but he is fun! Definitely try him out.

    • @luigi7878100
      @luigi7878100 Před 5 měsíci

      U should try him, it will take a lot of time and practice to be able to play him properly but u will improve a lot as he is very mechanic but he is very strong in t8 and also is really fun to play indeed 👌

    • @d0m0b40
      @d0m0b40 Před 5 měsíci +2

      dont worry about that. Play who you think is fun, and that alone will help and motivate the learning process. Above all take your time and enjoy

    • @Saskaruto16
      @Saskaruto16 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Lee has a lot of technical stuff to learn so it depends on your goals and whether you want to learn a crazy amount of technical skill.
      He's definitely one of the biggest investment requirement characters, and frankly for a very long time you will lose to players you are better than just because you have drops they don't. Are you OK mentally handling that?
      It's also OK to play multiple characters so you can try different things and grow multiple skillsets as well. You don't have to hard commit to Lee or Azucena you can play both.

  • @retu999
    @retu999 Před 5 měsíci

    "Right in the poosy..." killed me 😂

  • @nomanijaz8651
    @nomanijaz8651 Před 5 měsíci

    Anyone can tell me which region is the best to play Tekken 8 on PS5

  • @ddok907
    @ddok907 Před 5 měsíci

    Äntligen, nu snackar vi! Vad tog dig sån tid :D

  • @ytkeijin8056
    @ytkeijin8056 Před 5 měsíci

    Victor really becoming Yasuo in tekken

  • @FAM0US-M0NSTERS-
    @FAM0US-M0NSTERS- Před 5 měsíci

    Man, I'm stuck in the Garyu rank. I'll win like 10 Straight and lose once, and lose all my progress gained with that one loss. Feel like it's bugged or something

  • @Tartersauce101
    @Tartersauce101 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Lol Spike from Cowboy Bebop TMM thinks its a German guy awesome 😅

  • @ruifilipe5392
    @ruifilipe5392 Před 5 měsíci +1

    That reina was unbelivable but she is no match for PMP GALLO

  • @drscatt
    @drscatt Před 5 měsíci

    Ngl i was disappointed that Violet wasnt a default costume for Lee

  • @jtrent4137
    @jtrent4137 Před 5 měsíci

    Anyone have any knowledge on how to get consistent perfect electrics. Gotten a bit better getting them but idk.

    • @igg7865
      @igg7865 Před 4 měsíci +2

      sell your soul

  • @shino475
    @shino475 Před 5 měsíci

    Glad mainman experiences Lee too, without the other characters that can mash in your face.

  • @jse230379
    @jse230379 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Avoiding the puddle recommended people grab more in ranked and he was playing yoshi in the video

  • @kennecrx4373
    @kennecrx4373 Před 5 měsíci

    I played against tilimantus steve a couple days ago as well. I got destroyed tbh lmao.

  • @pretzel_aksmash353
    @pretzel_aksmash353 Před 5 měsíci +6

    Man I hope they patch that ws2,3 heat burst combo, it's ridiculously inconsistent but it's so broken when it works. 95 damage off a i14 ws punish is insane lol

    • @irishpizza2823
      @irishpizza2823 Před 5 měsíci

      Maybe the inconsistency is intentional, it is a 95 damage combo off a 14 frame punish after all.

    • @pretzel_aksmash353
      @pretzel_aksmash353 Před 5 měsíci +1

      @irishpizza2823 maybe, but there are cases with some female characters where it will work just fine if you hit the ws2,3 in neutral, but it wont work if you duck a high in a string, but there are some strings you can duck and it works. It's all over the place, which makes me think it's unintentional

    • @IWantToStayAtYourHouse
      @IWantToStayAtYourHouse Před 2 měsíci

      i sure hope they dont patch it. :( I rely on that combo so much

  • @walmartian422
    @walmartian422 Před 5 měsíci

    Funny how you pointed that thing out about the yoshimitsu players and grabbing all the time. I’ve noticed that too and I just do not understand whats going through their heads.
    Also that move at 23:09 they always bust that shit out in neutral ALWAYS

    • @Corey91666
      @Corey91666 Před 5 měsíci

      Yoshi player commented about alot of moves being unsave as a reason and partly difficulties opening people up.
      I dont play yoshi though. At least not yet.

  • @Nimrod336
    @Nimrod336 Před 5 měsíci

    Are chickens taken out the game?

  • @zaronix1233
    @zaronix1233 Před 5 měsíci

    Eyyyyyyyyyyyyy another day with tmmswe

  • @MasterChild117
    @MasterChild117 Před 5 měsíci +2

    14:11 Is that a JoJo Reference?

  • @jchoi9340
    @jchoi9340 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Marvelous!!! 🌹

  • @abefelipe6130
    @abefelipe6130 Před 2 měsíci

    Need a lesson from the mainman in b2 loops 😉

  • @MaximumRabbit
    @MaximumRabbit Před 5 měsíci +2

    26:20 LMAO this absolute trashbagger. Never have I ever wanted to watch a fighter lose like this, and TMMLEE provides with the greatest of ease. Stay humble, Kings.

  • @JonerB1023
    @JonerB1023 Před 5 měsíci

    Reina haunts my dreams.

  • @Swinhoegaming
    @Swinhoegaming Před 5 měsíci +1

    How difficult is Lee really? I know he has perfect frame moves but are they essential? Are his combos hard? I know he can struggle against turtles sometimes. I was thinking of picking him up then this video drops….

    • @BlakeToups-tc4np
      @BlakeToups-tc4np Před 5 měsíci +1

      His perfect inputs are essential at the higher ranks, definitely. Without them he drops on the tier hard.

    • @UltimateBallaPOM
      @UltimateBallaPOM Před 5 měsíci +1

      He has a much lower entrance floor this game. Great tools.
      His frame perfect tools, which is probably just 2, aren't that essential to his play.
      His combos are rhythm-based so once you understand that the timing between the second and third B2 loops is delayed and the rest is constant, then you'll have it down eventually.

  • @Sugabullets
    @Sugabullets Před 5 měsíci

    You need to use acid rain more

  • @rendezyt
    @rendezyt Před 5 měsíci +1

    I wish they (Bamco) jazzed Lee up some more; like give him some command throws and move to parry kicks as well as punches.

    • @theanti-hypemonitor9079
      @theanti-hypemonitor9079 Před 5 měsíci

      ROFL

    • @rendezyt
      @rendezyt Před 5 měsíci +5

      @@theanti-hypemonitor9079 Yeah I am serious; he's mostly the same as in T7 with just some minor touches and sorry but his rage art here is not as classy as it was in T7. He's a legacy character but yet has no proper 1 or 2 command throws. Since he specialises in kicking he should have some leg throws like law and kunimitsu at least.

  • @IeuroI
    @IeuroI Před 5 měsíci +1

    Finally ❤

  • @aaron.biketrials
    @aaron.biketrials Před 5 měsíci

    21:30 🤣🤣😂

  • @BoopaKing
    @BoopaKing Před 5 měsíci

    For some inexplicable reason I feel cheated every time I hear Lee should "Marvelous!" in his Rage Art.

  • @Bakfor
    @Bakfor Před 5 měsíci

    Lee really needs something more to his heat, just easier execution is pretty lame.

  • @MickSG.
    @MickSG. Před 5 měsíci +1

    As much as I love watching you play. I don't enjoy these types of videos as much. Of course there's nothing you can do about it, because you're just the better player than them. But I love tough sets, they're so fun to watch. Thanks for the great content as always Main Man.

  • @shafir2
    @shafir2 Před 5 měsíci +1

    use b33 more its natural hit string

    • @dannyrpt
      @dannyrpt Před 5 měsíci

      Its a low though. High level players don't "use" lows...

    • @shafir2
      @shafir2 Před 5 měsíci +1

      hes using db 3+4 which is a worse low, might as well use b33 its better@@dannyrpt

  • @Chameleon_daddi
    @Chameleon_daddi Před 5 měsíci

    Even Mainman drops Lees combos.... goes to show how impossible it is to dominate with Lee online, no matter how good you are. Lees biggest weaknesses 😢

    • @P-Likan
      @P-Likan Před 5 měsíci

      Yes though most are doable consistently on both sides, except the "max dmg" ones with b2f x2 into wsb1,2f into wsb2,3 followed by the frame perfect ender.

  • @misellus3931
    @misellus3931 Před 4 měsíci

    btw lee didnt have any changes in the first patch
    even the devs know hes PERFECT

  • @flipmonocle
    @flipmonocle Před 5 měsíci +1

    Masku

  • @uhhhhhhhhh333
    @uhhhhhhhhh333 Před 5 měsíci +2

    new to tekken am i at a disadvantage playing on keyboard

    • @Onuardo
      @Onuardo Před 5 měsíci +3

      Actually keyoboard is one of the most precise control scheme u can play, but obviusly needs practice like all

    • @jyggalag9838
      @jyggalag9838 Před 5 měsíci +2

      You have a major advantage over every other controller type.

    • @uhhhhhhhhh333
      @uhhhhhhhhh333 Před 5 měsíci

      thanks u got any tips on landing electric i always get the baby one n not full one what am i doing wrong?@@Onuardo

    • @doublejacketjimmy391
      @doublejacketjimmy391 Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@uhhhhhhhhh333 Pressing 2 too late.

    • @uhhhhhhhhh333
      @uhhhhhhhhh333 Před 5 měsíci

      thanks man im hitting it 3 out of 10 times now gonna keep grinding@@doublejacketjimmy391

  • @Abdullah79568
    @Abdullah79568 Před 5 měsíci

    Right in the Poosie

  • @RealAstroWhale
    @RealAstroWhale Před 5 měsíci +1

    That Victor Player was painful to watch, how the hell do you play like ass with an easy character like that, if that was Garyu then I’d probably be purple ranks.

  • @kingkino2116
    @kingkino2116 Před 5 měsíci

    Ion feel like going into all of it here, but you oughta hit the replay lab on that Reina match. They were actually super mediocre- you missed tons of free launches. Heavens rage is NEVER to be respected on block. Nice electrics though.

  • @idsh00
    @idsh00 Před 3 měsíci

    2:25

  • @shakzzz2690
    @shakzzz2690 Před 5 měsíci

    Ive played against jack like 4 times and got fucked every time

  • @oktanskioktan9372
    @oktanskioktan9372 Před 5 měsíci

    I'm Shinryu, where Good Players starts? Am I good?

  • @brightorangepants
    @brightorangepants Před 5 měsíci +1

    Paulnareff

    • @P-Likan
      @P-Likan Před 5 měsíci

      Interesting reference, few people know or remember Michel Polnareff nowadays :)

    • @lana_euclase
      @lana_euclase Před 5 měsíci

      ​​@@P-LikanIt's more about Polnareff from JoJo's Bizarre Adventure, he looks almost like the one from the manga. But Polnareff himself, is a reference to Michel Polnareff, so it counts.

  • @ReLo_FZR
    @ReLo_FZR Před 5 měsíci +1

    Bring back heihachi

  • @NicoMambino
    @NicoMambino Před 5 měsíci +1

    CHA’MON LEE 😎🌹

  • @kunikuzushis
    @kunikuzushis Před 5 měsíci

    mainman I won’t you

    • @Chursh
      @Chursh Před 5 měsíci +1

      Dude it’s Won’t, not won’t. You have to put capital W or it doesn’t make sense.

    • @kunikuzushis
      @kunikuzushis Před 5 měsíci

      @@Chursh the

  • @Alexanderking.5454
    @Alexanderking.5454 Před 3 měsíci

    all misima femli

  • @mikemackey874
    @mikemackey874 Před 5 měsíci

    GD

  • @adeebh1238
    @adeebh1238 Před 5 měsíci

    Man Victor is starting to get on my nerves 🤬

  • @alucard9668
    @alucard9668 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Like Lee is for me the hardest character in the game idk doing pewgf is easier on pad than playing him

    • @rendezyt
      @rendezyt Před 5 měsíci +1

      He is not complex at all really. Even Paul is harder than him.

    • @alucard9668
      @alucard9668 Před 5 měsíci

      yea but with paul u can spam this fkin hellsweep or his fist shit@@rendezyt

    • @rendezyt
      @rendezyt Před 5 měsíci

      @@alucard9668 With Paul you have to be a master at timing his sway with his punishment, especially at the higher ranks with qcf and qcb inputs on the d-pad. Lee's back 2s are not that hard to do and are not even necessary to win matches; acid rain is good in his toolkit but again not necessary to win matches.