In the old TOS game, I was Sheriff in the All Any and there were only 2 evils. Half the town ended up killing each other (crusaders especially) and somehow I found the two evils the first two nights. Despite that I was still seen as sus until the game suddenly ended when the 2 evils were finally lynched.
There were 4 evils in first game, jester took doom with him, and town managed to get down to 3 ppl trying to find one conj and passive sc this is insane
Here’s the thing about solo coven games: everybody suspects 4 coven are alive and everybody is going crazy and is desperate to find the coven and pull a bunch of stupid crap because there’s really only one coven
Spy has gotten worse as other roles have gotten buffs. The new Percept power of Investigator is basically a 1 night spy bug, isn't ruined by having a pest existing in the same match as you, and exists as an alternate power option so that the Invest can be useful late game too.
because he was agro the day before and knew the wildling was caught before it was revealed, he looked alert and paying attention so they wanted him out, pipe has done it before in his videos
How 'bout some more cursed roles Retributionist curse: Always a Medusa in the game stoning all the townies Jester curses: posting accurate ti results by chance/getting shot by Deputy once found out/getting killed by Shroud n1 Executioner curse: The moment you sus your target you get hanged as exe, even if the target is really evil. No, no I'm not speaking from experience or anything 😅
Recently vigi gambled on me. In dead chat he told me "you didn't vote illusionist" I was literally one of first people who voted him... Seriosuly i dont know what is with todays games
I personally hate Spy. As a Spy, I'm likely to just sit there, and watch as nothing happens to my targets for several nights straight, and then I see they get killed by coven which is known info anyway. If something happens, it's usually either plagued/doused (meaning revert back to pre-buff Spy as now all your bugs get triggered by gas or plague), or known info (target killed by coven). In very rare circumstances, you might see something useful, like seeing your target get attacked with immunity or seeing your target get targeted by an executioner, but that's few and far between. This role's sole purpose is to find out if there's a PB/arso or not. It's just an incredibly boring role. You're essentially playing the "townie" role in 90% of your spy games. No one cares about the spy. Evils will almost never intentionally go for a spy claim, likely aiming to mislynch them instead, as it's easy to mislynch a spy whose found nothing, which is what a lot of spy games are. Spy takes up a precious TI slot in set role lists. Spy definitely deserves a rework. Not a full removal, but the role absolutely sucks in its current state. I'd legitimately rather be a coroner than be a spy.
Maybe to buff spy they could be a little like coroner and trapper, but obviously faster in their set up. Idk though since making roles have less of a niche sucks sometimes.
Heck just make bugs permanent that would step up usefulness as the game drags on or possibly limit it to a certain number but having a “net” to see would make them stronger
When you think about it town imploding that first game is really your fault, you were hoping for dead vigis and crusaders and the town provided them XD
Question for Coroner interaction. If you find say, a Medusa as the killer, but the medusa passes the book the next night, can you still find them as the killer? It would be interesting. It could be that passing the book also has a different action with the invest.
From what I get, yes, you can still find them. If a medusa dies, and another coven gets retrained as medusa (can that happen?) You will be able to find a retrqined guy as well.
Once autopsied, the role is added to the list of roles you can find people as when checking people; therefore, even if the player is no longer a killing role, their role is still in the list of "things coroner can find"
Remember be careful with anything electric as they could be harmful and or lethal to you and or other people and or start a fire along with causeing other things. Remember be careful and stay safe
Big spoiler 5 was sc 11 jester 6 doomsayer 4 conj Then no more evils in the first game (If you are are actually getting spoiled by this is because you clicked replys before checking the vid)
Medium curse (dead night 1)
Coroner curse (no one to autopsy for 5 days)
Jester curse (posts accurate TI will)
Retri curse (useful roles stoned when needed)
@@Truly_tht_Guy OG retri curse (all townies left so you couldn't revive)
Pirate curse (jailor jails every person that disconnects on the day)
i tried faking seer as jester once. carried town to victory and lived to the end. never faked TI as jester again
@@replica7968 more likely: there's a crus on every person that disconnected d1/n1
I can't believe town almost lost against 1 coven.
and 1 SC, tough match
@@consigliere8940no? 😂
@@eyrietracersarcasm, my friend.
BRO SPOILER 😭😭😭
I guess when you're used to having like 4 or 5 town every game, in an almost all-town game, you see red everywhere (or purple, I guess).
Low Coven game means Town starts blasting each other because everyone's claim is sus lol.
In the old TOS game, I was Sheriff in the All Any and there were only 2 evils. Half the town ended up killing each other (crusaders especially) and somehow I found the two evils the first two nights. Despite that I was still seen as sus until the game suddenly ended when the 2 evils were finally lynched.
lol that jester faking seer and getting accurate results.
and the fact that he CARRIED the game LOL
such a Pipe move when he plays jester
jester might need a career change
:)
There were 4 evils in first game, jester took doom with him, and town managed to get down to 3 ppl trying to find one conj and passive sc this is insane
LOL i love that second game, thats just the embodiment of a jester's worst nightmare
Here’s the thing about solo coven games: everybody suspects 4 coven are alive and everybody is going crazy and is desperate to find the coven and pull a bunch of stupid crap because there’s really only one coven
Still, they had like three claims and went all random
almost like real witch trials huh
Spy has gotten worse as other roles have gotten buffs. The new Percept power of Investigator is basically a 1 night spy bug, isn't ruined by having a pest existing in the same match as you, and exists as an alternate power option so that the Invest can be useful late game too.
I like what spy is meant to be, not what it is.
Spy is supposed to find out what evils are in the game. Something it doesn't do until it's too late.
Pipe, the correct question in game 2 is "Why is Town horsing around?"
Boooooo!!!
@@TheOmegaXicor
You know you love it
Spy being really cool some matches makes a surprisingly volatile claim
Stoned people's role
In game 2, 3 was Spy and 1 was Pipe (Coro).
The fact that town almost threw the first game with 4 evils in it and a bunch of really powerfull townies is so funny.
only 1 killing evil role and they almost managed to lose
I don't get why the medusa went after you in the second game. Not the brightest move as there were more important roles to go after.
Coroner curse and Pipton bug.
because he was agro the day before and knew the wildling was caught before it was revealed, he looked alert and paying attention so they wanted him out, pipe has done it before in his videos
Love how game 2 ends with pipe saying "I swear this town is full of evils" and then five seconds later town wins
How 'bout some more cursed roles
Retributionist curse: Always a Medusa in the game stoning all the townies
Jester curses: posting accurate ti results by chance/getting shot by Deputy once found out/getting killed by Shroud n1
Executioner curse: The moment you sus your target you get hanged as exe, even if the target is really evil.
No, no I'm not speaking from experience or anything 😅
Recently vigi gambled on me.
In dead chat he told me "you didn't vote illusionist"
I was literally one of first people who voted him...
Seriosuly i dont know what is with todays games
"It was all bullcrap" is an excelletn way to end the video
stalioncrap *
Eleven townies and they almost lost, love this game
Hahahaha that jester just wanted to be linched
bro became confirmed 😂
That serial killer death note was GOLDEN
4 evils in total, all of separate factions, and yet town still almost lost it just because people are trigger-happy
They should make multiple uses on a body a coin flip rather than higher/lower on list
I personally hate Spy. As a Spy, I'm likely to just sit there, and watch as nothing happens to my targets for several nights straight, and then I see they get killed by coven which is known info anyway. If something happens, it's usually either plagued/doused (meaning revert back to pre-buff Spy as now all your bugs get triggered by gas or plague), or known info (target killed by coven). In very rare circumstances, you might see something useful, like seeing your target get attacked with immunity or seeing your target get targeted by an executioner, but that's few and far between.
This role's sole purpose is to find out if there's a PB/arso or not.
It's just an incredibly boring role. You're essentially playing the "townie" role in 90% of your spy games. No one cares about the spy. Evils will almost never intentionally go for a spy claim, likely aiming to mislynch them instead, as it's easy to mislynch a spy whose found nothing, which is what a lot of spy games are. Spy takes up a precious TI slot in set role lists.
Spy definitely deserves a rework. Not a full removal, but the role absolutely sucks in its current state. I'd legitimately rather be a coroner than be a spy.
Maybe to buff spy they could be a little like coroner and trapper, but obviously faster in their set up. Idk though since making roles have less of a niche sucks sometimes.
Heck just make bugs permanent that would step up usefulness as the game drags on or possibly limit it to a certain number but having a “net” to see would make them stronger
I think if they combined Coro and Spy into a single role that could do both, it would still be the worst TI.
don’t forget the ret curse in game 2, two rets and barely any town died
Man PipeTron really giving us all the quality retri games recently
i love watching pipe at 11 o’clock at night
The corner curse is hilarious
When you think about it town imploding that first game is really your fault, you were hoping for dead vigis and crusaders and the town provided them XD
17:49 thank you pipe horses don’t get eniugh recognizion from non equestrians 🙏🙏
3:55 (Literally the Netherlands when lootboxes)
Didn't retri used to get the feedback from the corpse in TOS1?
town had no business winning that game
No spoiler shield? Unfortunate 😢
I think watching the first game knowing there's only one coven makes it funnier tbf lol
Based on something you said early in the video, have you tried to use "corpse missing" as a fake ret claim?
I only hate Spy because as an Admirer, a Spy caught me Curing my lover and it made the Conj nuke my PROSECUTOR LOVER...
3:58 try and explain this to twitch chat whenever pip is live they won’t listen
Just started playing. Is there ANY type of community for ranked/ ranked practice?
GG Great video as always :)
Lol the jester
Hooray😊
That town really didnt want to win in the first game
Question for Coroner interaction. If you find say, a Medusa as the killer, but the medusa passes the book the next night, can you still find them as the killer? It would be interesting. It could be that passing the book also has a different action with the invest.
From what I get, yes, you can still find them. If a medusa dies, and another coven gets retrained as medusa (can that happen?) You will be able to find a retrqined guy as well.
Once autopsied, the role is added to the list of roles you can find people as when checking people; therefore, even if the player is no longer a killing role, their role is still in the list of "things coroner can find"
in TOS1 had medium and now there's a coroner curse wow
Poor coroner 90% of the time you just don’t seem to be able to do anything
they need to let coroner autopsy stoned and see what role they was
Btw! Yesterday I got Coro gaming time. On n2 i got 11 as wildling!! After that, no more use for me 😢 all the deaths done by dcs or hangs 😢😢
Retri needs a buff. Make it unique again by making meat shields out of corpses if not town members!
Both of these games have big Patreon energy
Man that game 1 town would have gotten destroyed if there was more than one coven...
Remember be careful with anything electric as they could be harmful and or lethal to you and or other people and or start a fire along with causeing other things.
Remember be careful and stay safe
Second game was full Ti game lol. And 2 Rets Mon
And that's why you never claim TI as Jest
That and the increased likelihood of getting killed it brings. It’s great to claim it late though
Bonk
Spoiler Shield 🛡
thank u popcorn
Big spoiler
5 was sc
11 jester
6 doomsayer
4 conj
Then no more evils in the first game
(If you are are actually getting spoiled by this is because you clicked replys before checking the vid)
@@giovarlin_31 LOL I just spoiled myself.. That's what I get for being nosy smh
I almost couldn't find the Spoiler Shield spell!
Spoiler shield aint at the top, bro really fell off (even if they are doing the right thing)
tarnation spy
W VIDEO 🔥
Coroner pog
Retri hard carry? Nah that jester hard carry 2nd game xD
literally everyone in that first game has brain worms
Game 1 was pitiful, 4 evil game and it was almost thrown by every town other than you wp
IS 2 BETTER THAN 1???
Gaming
2 evil game and town wiped itself out
Yay!
i like spy
I don't particularly like Spy in tos2, but saying to remove it altogether is a bit much.
Spy is my least favorite role in the game.
4:05 Anti gambling propaganda
Pipton
I scroll Spy 😊
What does it mean to be sexually related to something? How do you be unsexually related to another person?
Imagine beeing a horse hater
Games like this make me hate coro. Its only use is to fake claim due to the curse.
2 pushed you as coven then cced your claim and kept voting you. The pros was fine, a bit trigger happy but 2 was being scummy.
i like spy :(
Spy is fine. Only town role I hate getting is sheriff
That first game was just....disappointing. So many games end up like that. Randomly prosecuting because of a whisper?
E
I lost 2 tpow games in a row due to stress and misclicking
How do you manage
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Spy=trash (plz get rid of this awful role)
spy sucks
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