Open your eyes fearnots "they did not noticed her" "they are not rude it's just a coincidence" "idols are humans" remember that wonyoung was attacked for just looking at jeongyeon 1. Yunjin turned her head to fix her hair the moment wonyoung turned back and then ignored 2. Sakura looked away when wonyoung looked that way 3. Kazuha turned away from her when wonyoung was looking at them (just because she was finding ive does not mean she did not wanted to interact look at her face) and as soon as wonyoung looked away kazuha turned to give a smirk 4. In 2nd clip yunjin looked at her it was not an accidental ignore she gave side eye and left 5. Eunchae the younger one who is younger than wonyoung stood there and stared at her face then proceeded to leave without bowing at her Now imagine if all this was done by wonyoung then you would not say that idols are humans too you would just post quotes by bangchan that juniors these days don't bow double face kpop fans are trying to turn wonyoung into the next jennie who was most hated idol😐 Do you want another jonghyun or sulli?
@@mirra01 nah , they need to mention them cuz those precious souls were ended their lifes cuz of these hates thats why op comment said do u want wy also end up like this
yall rlly think just coz wonyoung gets hate she gonna turn like sulli and jonghyun be fucking serious sulli and jonghyun had bigger things going on for them to end their life stop mentioning them
I’m honestly surprised that le sserafim isn’t getting hate for this, this seems exactly the behavior that dumb netizens that have nothing to do with there life look out for :/
Garam bowed to Wony many times, but cruelly someone slandered that Garam hated Wonyoung. Garam is angel. and who knows who the first clip of Wonyoung looks at? because she's facing backwards
@@hallooos7585 you dive people are even worse and toxic . To give justice to wonyoung you all people are ready to drag down le sserafim without their fault
I feel her pain. This happens with me all the time. I try my best to be the friendliest and kindest person but somehow they still hate me and i just don’t understand why
Lol sakura not ignore wonyoung, the one that ignore sakura is wonyoung. Try to see different angle.. czcams.com/users/shortsZ0vjL1opT4Q?feature=share czcams.com/users/shortsQi4GzsJjPK4?feature=share
To be the devil's advocate here all of these clips could be taken out of context and we honestly don't really know how these idols really feel about each other. To out right call them disrespectful is a bit of a stretch and its totally valid that if wonyoung did these actions she would be crucified. But we can't really cancel hate with more hate. Stop overanalyzing the smallest of actions and stream your faves music smh.
honestly? i agree with you, but this interaction lasted seconds for both wy and lessera members. they knew she was in front of them, and when she turned around both yunjin and zuha avoided her gaze and even side eyed her, if she can notice her juniors and immediately bow to them, they can too. im sorry but it's not over analyzing, it's right infront of your eyes
@@san1a0707 what I'm saying is none of them were luking at each other or ignoring like the video maker said, wonyoung didn't turn and look at them to expect a bow I'm sure she doesn't even case also I heard she was trying to find her members that's when she saw Sakura and briefly greeted her while luking for her members n Sakura greeted back .... I m just stating how the video maker is exactly doing the same thing which escalated wonyoung hate(fake videos/overly escalated and edited) wonyoung was victim of all this haters edited videos
@@emisuyt4875 i agree with you, but the angle really doesn't change anything since it doesn't cut anything either. it's literally an interaction that lasted seconds. they also have a few other interactions which all went according to flow, so hating on anyone based off one short video is baseless
Y'all will sit everyday to make a new female the evil one and the saga continues idc if won or LS are mean they're just musicians on my playlist it's not like we live together lol
@@sunghoonphobic people treat her dirty ,i used to hate her bcos for some sh*t editing of her being "rude" ,she do act cute(people hate it bcos it's not their culture), she's still a teenager ,she will grow mature one day and haters going to cry abt it
@@user-ul1yo3iw5r I js don’t know why ppl come at her. An actual pick me would do anything to win a man. Ppl js judge her way of eating and acting. Like leave her alone yal would do worse
@@wonyoung_for_everyoung_10 why are you taking an edited clip on CZcams so seriously. Sakura and Wonyoung didn’t ignore each other. Wonyoung bowed to Sakura and Sakura clapped at her, with a smile. Sakura literally sees Wonyoung as her younger sister, these girls literally SHARED A ROOM WITH EACH OTHER, y’all fearnots and dives need to stop with the fighting
Please guys yunjin and eunchae bowed I would have supported y'all if the clips was true but these clips are not go to the original clips wonie bowed to Karina not Sakura eunchae and yunjin bowed to her and you don't know where Kazuha is looking
The sad part is if another idol went back after forgetting to bow and bowed people would be like “omg so cute and so repectful!” But if wonyoung did that they would be like “oh she just wants to stand out from her group in front of men!” The double standard is just insane!
It is certainly interesting that haters will say Wonyoung is disrespectful and doesn’t do perfect 90 degree bow but when other females accidentally forget to bow or do a half bow no one says anything. There’s so much hate towards her. The fact she is so young and can keep her smile despite it all is truly strong of her.
@@Pham_0607 comeon, she always bows(it's been debunked) even if it's 15 degrees. 15 degrees is acceptable here in Korea and only people who aren't even Korean have something to say about the tradition.
@@Pham_0607 when did I do that? Also you are really not syaing anything. Wonyoung fans are not blaming other. Also, you all can blame wonyoung for silly reason which is not even correct when le serafim is being disrespectful toward her. Just say you hate wonyoung we can understand from your words.
Wonyoung is literally one of the most hardworking idols in 4th gen.....Being an MC , a model for countless brand deals , being in a group whilst being a teenager is a lot.... And she normally doesn't do a 45 degree bow..... She just does a small head bow but sometimes the male mc also does that.....but the hate bandwagon is just targeted towards Wony..... Misogyny at its finest tbh....
Even other female idols get away with this behavior it's not just misogyny it's targeted hate towards wonyoung first it was hwasa then jennie now wonnie
@@sunnygirlll_2001 that and she’s very underweight (not just how she looks, she’s 5’8 and her official weight is less than 100 lbs, making her bmi in the underweight category) so if she bowed 90 degrees she would easily get light headed. have u ever gotten up to fast and felt like u we’re gonna faint? imagine working crazy hours for promotions etc. she must b so tired
I hate how everyone bashes wonyoung for literally breathing like whenever other idols do things nobody cares but when wonyoung does it they all start calling her a pick me (the baseball pitching)
No one is rude not sakura not kazuha not yujin not chaewon and not eunchae and wonyoung is such a sweet girl I don't know why people hate her but still you don't have the right to say le serafim is rude so please stop it your just trying to have beef with everyone so pls stop this nonsense 😔 😢
OMG I hate toxic fans so much...just let them live...if they suicide or something y'all say we failed to protect them..there no point saying it after what happened. And we don't know what's happening in their mind or their attention will be somewhere else so they forget to wish others it's not a big deal we all did this sometimes.
Wonyoung doesn't deserve all of that hate, she is such a sweetheart, people would hate her for littlest things, even if she breathes, people will hate on her 🗿 we love you wony! ❤️
Ya'll should really go to listen to "You never know" by Blackpink to understand how Wonyoung felt all these years with all this hate! Ya'll don't even deserve to be called humans
also there isnt a “proper” bow, a lot of koreans say its okay to just nod your head in the direction with maybe a slight bow. not bowing at all is disrespectful
@@Eunchaed i didnt say they didnt😭? edit: maybe have some reading comprehension or something because when did i ever insinuate they didnt bow, i said there isnt a proper bow and not bowing at all like not even a head nod is disrespectful :3
WTF?? I'm baffled beyond words seeing this carefully constructed video. It's clear as a day that this is not the case with them and LESSERAFIM is nowhere near to "ignoring" or "disrespecting" Wonyoung. You people will put down anyone in the pretense of defending your faves. I hoped to find common sense in the comment section but no. And to find that this acc is an engene.
@@catsare... Who's "y'all"? is it me? If you're replying to my comment then let me tell you that I've got no problem with Wonyoung or other celebrities and that is why I can say all this. Yes it is apparent for everyone that she gets majority of the hate all the time but trying to gain sympathy for her by using the same cheap method that made her look bad is also not right. Not when the other party is completely innocent. That is my point and that is the truth idk bout the kind of excuse you're implying when the clip is nothing but a delusional narrative.
Yeah but this video is to show how people like you are so blatantly hypocritical. You did not say this for wonyoung, did u defend her? Also it's these people's fans who threw hate on her for this exact video. So this vid is showing a alt perspective of how you can change the narrative.
I don't give you props for trying to constantly name a victim and villain, whether it be Wonyoung, LESSERAFIM, or anyone, especially when it comes down to the whole bowing problem, however it is true that no one bats an eye when it's someone else. They'll ignore the fact the other person didn't bow at Wonyoung and put all of their hatred into her. And no hate to indo fans, not all of you are like this, but I've noticed most Korean fans don't care because bowing is not necessary every second, the problem is pulled up by international fans and fans pretending to be Korean (a lot of them tend to be Indonesian fans, I'm sorry 😭😭). Bowing is a sign of respect and should be used in situations that call for it, however you don't need to snap your body in half 90° every time you pass by a person. In most cases where Wonyoung is called out for "disrespectful", she was either doing her job as MC, leaving the stage, winning an award (and in most of the time, she already bowed by nodding her head), or she just didn't see them and as stated before, you don't need to bow everytime you notice another person's presence.
There is no correct way of bowing! Stop spreading misinformation. It's only true that the further you go down the more respectful it get. What wonyoung did was respectful.
Please pin I am korean. I hate how many non Koreans try to hate on her for this not knowing how bowing works the Korea. The way she is bowing is 100% acceptable and normal. Trust me when you go to Korea almost no one will bow that low. A full 90 degree bow is only required when talking to someone extremely important like the president, you guys need to calm down.
if you're actually trying to stop hate then just stop trying to make people hate other idols because of one. hating idols should be stopped asap before everyone goes
This video just make me realise if one person start to hate, other whould start to even if there is no reason for it! I'm really worry about loosing idols like wonyoung and jennie with the way we lose sulli...
@@Sandrinarhonda who said you have to bow down to Wonyoung existence haha... If all those fimmies actions were done by Wonyoung y'all will be like throwing nonstop hate on her, fck this double standard of kpop
@notscary Yall don't even know what you're talking about lmao she can't do any of the things above bc none of the idols on the list did it in their debut era - she doesn't have as much influence as them yet. Also bringing Jeonyeong in this topic like she didn't gain weight bc of health problems is weird. Listen to the i am =/= doll once again and maybe you'll get what Yunjin's trying to say
I love that op said this because it’s so true it’s like when Ateez talked about meeting their youngers like KQ Fellaz 2 that some of them accidentally/purposefully talked to them casually not respectfully and they had to yell at them well remind them to speak to elders/seniors with respect yes they can be friends and they will be but they can’t go around talking so casually like that and now they talk respectfully to them, younger groups these days really aren’t treating their seniors with respect except what I’ve seen IVE, XG, New Jeans and Enhyphen just to name 4 4th gen groups are the most respectful to their seniors, but when it’s a group close to your age and debut near same time as you but still before you it’s some how ok to not be respectful and push them off, like if they act like this and get away with it the industry is showing def favoritism cause if early 3rd gen and technically very earlier 4th gen we’re like this they immediately would get in trouble and yelled at badly maybe even kicked out the group, and 2nd gen had to face threatening of their contracts, even with 4th gen now too they could risk a scandal and getting kicked out
Ateez were talking about another rookie group which already debuted, they were not talking about KQ fellaz 2 ( XIKERS), they haven't debuted yet. They are going to debut at the end of this month.🎉🎉
She retracted her hand and her smile became dull when they all looked the other way I noticed ever since she debut in ive and gaining popularity many of her old friends have become envious of her they are no longer close and many idol give her silent treatment
Cozz they jealous of her big time 😭 I mean from the start I never hated her cozz she is beautiful and I don't see the reason why people hate her so much
Nah cus why when an idol get hate y’all gotta bring other idols into it like just bc one of y’all favs are getting hate doesn’t mean you have to do bring someone else into it and y’all saying people need to stop hating wonyoung and yeah I agree but y’all basically saying that since lesserafim didn’t do it they should get hate to why only wonyoung should stop getting hated or not why do y’all want lesserafim to get hated like y’all reach so far to bring other people down to bring up y’all favs up and like I said wonyoung don’t deserve all the hate she gets it’s actually ridiculous how much people hate her but don’t think that you trying to get people to hate lesserafim too is gonna stop people from hating wonyoung any less or make you look better. I just don’t get how y’all think bringing up other groups mistakes are gonna change anything like just stop your yelling about how much wonyoung get hate put your hating on lesserafim rn that’s not matching up there’s always a time where an idol or a whole group forget to bow to another person a the end of the end it’s never that serious to hate on them and no I’m not just talking about wonyoung and lesserafim am saying in general. And it sound like I’m defending lesserafim and yes i am put I’m defending wonyoung too so.
Wtf I hate these type of shorts always putting down members or groups like why , I don't know if this is joke or sarcasm but stop it . Woonyoung is who she is and Leseraffim is Leseraffim , celebrities are really brave and have patience because their some fans are really dramatic and obsessed
I'm not saying this because I'm a fan but wonyoung is literally one of the kindest and most beautiful human in the world. She always smiles and she's so sweet and that's what people hate? Stop it.
I have a feeling there's a lot of unhealthy and toxic competition and rivalry between idols in general in kpop. Not related to this video, but you can't expect everyone to get along with everyone. That's just not possible.
Two things people hate for a woman to be: #1. Skinny #2. Beautiful Doesn't matter the race, culture, age, how nice the woman is, how healthy she is, if she has an illness, if she is naturally beautiful and skinny or got that way from surgery. Women will always despise other women for those two traits. Period.
Fearnots, please don't create a war. Let them imagine what they wanna. All these dives can't defend their favs respectfully. These dives are literally dragging Lesserafim to defend wony. Can you tell me what was that "Miss Yunjin" for? Huh? Such a small coincidence of slight head movements and hand movements and yall are wayy to delulu
@@joywis_w totally agree male ones get love for mistake omg so cute mistake perfect mistake lol while girl idols do the same gurl don't want to be idol anymore gurl has no telent double standards.
@@chrybell like they're any better, their entire fandom is full of ppl who is either there bc of their tiktok humour, bc they're from hybe or because of ex izone members
Jennie was their first target and now their second target is wonyoung so don't care cause nothing can change the fact that Jennie is Korea,s and global IT girl and wonyoung is IT girl of fourth gen so don't care!!!
@@fgkajfr2347_ no it's Jennie cause Jennie was named the global IT girl by the most famous magazine,s like V magazine but Lisa was never named by any magazine it just some lilies saying this !!!! (No hate to QUEEN LALISA though!!💛💛💛💛💛💛)
FINALLY SOMEONE ELSE NOTICED! I have been waiting for someone to make a video like this, Wonyoung really doesn't deserve all this hate, some people are really bored, anyway stan IVE
@@kazsq What I wanted is for someone to make a video proving that Wonyoung is not mean and rude like everyone portrays her to be. The fact that in the video LE SSERAFIM seems like the rude ones is not right of course as I don't think it's their fault either. I am sorry if you misunderstood my comment
@heesyeon_ Le sserafim is a mean group itself, your comment proves that you will defend your favs no matter what shit they do 💀 Kazuha gave a nasty look at Wonyoung but you let that pass, if Wonyoung did that to that bitch Zuha you would be hating her like there's no tomorrow 💀💀💀
"She didn't bow that much" At least she bowed people? I know it's culture for the more you bow the more respect you gave or whatever but she still bowed.
People really don't know why she's hated? It is no mystery to me. She has been described as "once in a thousand years" because of her extraordinary, almost other-worldly beauty: tall, lean with gorgeous face. Youngest center of a girl group, rich, famous, member of a record setting kpop group, came from a privileged life, and she naturally carries herself like a real princess. Is it really a mystery why she gets hated but there are many, many, many more people that admire her.
Stop hating Wonyoung for everything. As both a Fearnot and a Dive, I hate neither of them. The one I hae here are you guys, stop always making them look like uneducated people. Sakura and Chaewon are nice , they said bye to Wony(They were ex-band members). But that doesn’t mean ‘Le Sserafim is good and Wonyoung is bad’ , it just proves you guys are making drama and it’s problematic.
Okay- I Stan both of the groups and I love wonyoung so much, but for some reason I just don’t like the concept of this video, Le SSERAFIM is NOT making her a VILLAIN. I don’t have any idea where that word came up, and There not rude, or disrespectful. And for this creator to say that is very disrespectful because they do not have any idea what’s going on behind cameras, and no, I’m not saying “Wonyoung is a bad senior” but wonyoung didn’t bow properly to her seniors either, I just don’t think it’s fair, she did a slight head bow to Blackpink, BTS, and Aespa. And got not as nearly Ridiculous comments as this creator is giving LE SSERAFIM. Honestly I love both groups and I’m not being biased, but please stop posting videos like this when you don’t know what’s going on, I post videos about rude things the fans say, but videos like this are the reason bully scandals happen and half of them aren’t true. I know a TON of people are going to comment about this, and I have had no problems with this creators other content, but please just bare with me here. And plus half this creators videos is Wonyoung. So that proves they are mostly biased. It was a coincidence.
Are you even korean? Why is it always you international fans that talk about Korean culture as if you know it like the back of your hand? Literally where is your proof that she hasn’t bowed properly to her seniors?
Y’all I’m not a fear not or a dive but is this really our business? Their might be something behind the scenes that we don’t know so don’t make assumptions
I'm not a dive nor a lsf fan but what i know is dives have to fight with dives before fight with others because most of the wonyoung haters are dive. Most of them are gauel, liz, rei biased dives. They are hating wonyoung & making look her bad because they think that their favs don't get much lines because wy. I was a dive my self & i tried to protect wy from lots of dives who were biased other members of ive, then it was bit hard bcs those hates were getting bigger with their every comeback so i had to give up on it. But this is not a secret, even lots of other fandom know about it.
This is so true. So many dives hate wony for no reason and pull the whole group down. Including encouraging more people to hate ive, I'm convinced they are just antis in disguise
This.. the other day I saw vid of how much lines Liz got for their new song and I feel very bad for Liz. But then I went to read the comments and all the Liz stans were calling Wonyoung name and saying it’s all her fault (she didn’t even get the most lines or was given the decision to distribute them). One even said that the company is stupid for promoting a skeleton with a eating disorder and not real talent, bro what.
I’ve seen liz stans (yeah I’m sure that they are the token stans) protest that Liz got a few lines than wonyoung in Kitsch and said that the second line after first chorus should be given to Liz, not WY. And now the token stans protest AGAIN for the WY’s screentime yet she had the least lines😭😭😭
@@annagreenwell2005 but that is what's happening.. they r not being called out and attacked for months on end like wonyoung does even when it's not true.. it's called the hybe privilege.. when the company's artists have that many followers u can get away with anything
What do you mean Le sserafim disrespected Wonyoung ,Wonyoung is like this with every idol.When other idols bow to her she act like she it the queen and queens doesn't have to bow back
This isn’t defending! It’s only contributing to the toxicity of hate. You’re doing exactly what your upset with others for doing. What does that solve? None of us know what is really happening in any of these situations.
@@Pusse_inpfpsakura not ignore wonyoung, look at the full video sakura smile to wonyoung and take her hand. You guys wonyoung fan trying to make another grup look bad 💀
Finally someone who is right....When I always try to explain to others that wonyoung isn't rude they always point out to random moments.....why they do this to wony always?
@@dahyUnnie_07 ok i understand but aren't they also making le sserafim look villain?? And the fact that they put false allegations on le sserafim! I have cleared everything on my channel and my video..
Don’t trust social media. Some idols look so innocent and friendly but when they off camera, they are just too arrogant and bad people. But if you see previous clips of Wonyoung off camera she treat her staff well and even pick up some trashes before leaving the stage. She is absolute angel, I was bit angry about she didn’t bow to her seniors but I think there is something going with idols. Don’t hate her, you know nothing about her. I don’t want something to happen to her like Garam. She was bullied by her classmates but her bullies did something or post something about her falsely but people believed it and now People ruined 16 year girl’s life. People are just monsters.
The bowing thing is fake and was made up by international fans. If your see no Korean is offended and those videos were edited (many people don't bow to her, and even a little nod is as respectful). So you don't need to be mad about that.
Yup, I have slowly stopped liking certain kpop idols because it’s obvious of what type of a person they are. I still have my favourites, they are angels and I will always be on their side.
Then why was no Korean offended? LE SSERAFIM did not even disrespect Wonyoung‚ stop fighting. As a Fearnot and a Dive‚ I am sick of you all hating on LE SSERAFIM.
Im pretty sure wonyoung bowed at karina and sakura smiled at wonyoung And i forgot to mention,but i think wonyoung is not their senior.(no hate to anyone)
Nope she is their senior. All izone members that are still active are Seniors. And ive debuted before le sserafim . So The whole Ive are Seniors to Yujin, Eumchae and kazuha.
Won young doesn’t deserve the hate but you shouldn’t talk or hate on other idols because your basically giving others the hate that won young got even tho it might be less that doesn’t mean you should let another idol suffer even if they disrespected your idol
Look the fact is u can't judge any idol's action through these footage bcuz CAMERA ANGLE ARE VERY IMPORTANT, it can create illusion and cuz misinterpretation , things might look different from different angle. 2nd bowing 90°all the time is a personal choice and not a necessity (I don't know Much about korean culture so i don't have right to say much about that ) 3rd i don't know y wony get so much hate, but for a fact I think it is bcuz of starship, I think they kinda control her actions but doesn't protect her from haters as they want to make profit of every type of attention weather it's bad or good, they don't care 😑
This is correct, from this camera angle, we dont get to know if yunjin and wonyoung even saw each other, so it would only be right to bow if they noticed each other.
@@malgekyo2950 the rest of the people discuss their reason to hate on lessarafim. If we commoners would be idols then everything we do would be villainised 😂 A person minding their business and doing a natural action such as looking around or turning, then someone will pick that moment to hate u, edit in slow motion and add background music 😂😂
@@yupikadu3938 yup i would be crucified if i was an idol and apparently this video is edited ...the creator edited the part where they said hi and bowed 💀
girlll if my hair is as styled gorgeously as wonyoung's i wouldn't even bother bowing at all like girll thesee locks are too precious for me to be giving yall a 90 degree bow💅💅💅
This video is very misleading they bowed to Wonyoung and smiled they might not give everyone one a smile because they might be tired there is nothing but interactions we can't judge by that don't spread misleading information to "defend" your favorite idols
Open your eyes fearnots
"they did not noticed her" "they are not rude it's just a coincidence" "idols are humans" remember that wonyoung was attacked for just looking at jeongyeon
1. Yunjin turned her head to fix her hair the moment wonyoung turned back and then ignored
2. Sakura looked away when wonyoung looked that way
3. Kazuha turned away from her when wonyoung was looking at them (just because she was finding ive does not mean she did not wanted to interact look at her face) and as soon as wonyoung looked away kazuha turned to give a smirk
4. In 2nd clip yunjin looked at her it was not an accidental ignore she gave side eye and left
5. Eunchae the younger one who is younger than wonyoung stood there and stared at her face then proceeded to leave without bowing at her
Now imagine if all this was done by wonyoung then you would not say that idols are humans too you would just post quotes by bangchan that juniors these days don't bow double face kpop fans are trying to turn wonyoung into the next jennie who was most hated idol😐
Do you want another jonghyun or sulli?
omg thank you for calling this out im sick of seeing tgem fearnust in the comments tryna defend them for no purpose when its so obvious
There was no need to mention sulli or jonghyun tf
@@mirra01 nah , they need to mention them cuz those precious souls were ended their lifes cuz of these hates thats why op comment said do u want wy also end up like this
yall rlly think just coz wonyoung gets hate she gonna turn like sulli and jonghyun be fucking serious sulli and jonghyun had bigger things going on for them to end their life stop mentioning them
I’m honestly surprised that le sserafim isn’t getting hate for this, this seems exactly the behavior that dumb netizens that have nothing to do with there life look out for :/
The fact that international fans are telling a korean how to bow properly 💀
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Yeah cause those international fans were the one telling wonyoung how to bow properly.
@@alora_pink wdym?
Frrrrrr
내가 레알 잼있는 사실 가르쳐 줄까?
그들은 아무것도 몰라 😭😂
Lol not me being a multi Stan and sitting back with popcorn to read the comments 😂
Fr the whole comment section is on fire🥂😂
girl id like me some of that popcorn
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Us bro us 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Fr me too😂
Me too lol
But I am replying to them as well
Garam bowed to Wony many times, but cruelly someone slandered that Garam hated Wonyoung. Garam is angel. and who knows who the first clip of Wonyoung looks at? because she's facing backwards
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Garam was hated by Fearnots that fandom is a joke and are filled with hypocrites
@Hallooos not really real old fans liked and defended her
@@hallooos7585 you dive people are even worse and toxic . To give justice to wonyoung you all people are ready to drag down le sserafim without their fault
@@twice-tu4rcthat doesnt make sense when she debuted with a bullying scandal
y'all know damn well what will happen if wonyoung did this 🙅
Fr.
they'll hate her to bits like she did the worst crime ever
@@unknown-gq7bm I KNOW RIGHT? these fucking fearnots hate on wonyoung even when their idols are doing the same and just let it pass , like wtf??
I feel her pain.
This happens with me all the time.
I try my best to be the friendliest and kindest person but somehow they still hate me and i just don’t understand why
Bro for God sake watch the full clip this creator is showing half clip and you are believing her that's awful
Meanwhile chaewon being so nice 😊😊😊😊😊😊
Lol sakura not ignore wonyoung, the one that ignore sakura is wonyoung. Try to see different angle.. czcams.com/users/shortsZ0vjL1opT4Q?feature=share
czcams.com/users/shortsQi4GzsJjPK4?feature=share
Meanwhile kazuha being shy fangirl to wonyoung
@@mikan143 you call that fangirl?
@@Elpiojodelghoon see the pinned comment and you will understand
@@mikan143 yes side eyeing your idol 😅clearly fan behaviour
To be the devil's advocate here all of these clips could be taken out of context and we honestly don't really know how these idols really feel about each other. To out right call them disrespectful is a bit of a stretch and its totally valid that if wonyoung did these actions she would be crucified. But we can't really cancel hate with more hate. Stop overanalyzing the smallest of actions and stream your faves music smh.
honestly? i agree with you, but this interaction lasted seconds for both wy and lessera members. they knew she was in front of them, and when she turned around both yunjin and zuha avoided her gaze and even side eyed her, if she can notice her juniors and immediately bow to them, they can too. im sorry but it's not over analyzing, it's right infront of your eyes
@@san1a0707 yall are just playing into this fanwar game as everyone was with wonyoung. Stop judging their relationships on random interactions lol
@@emisuyt4875 that's literally the same clip, the angle doesn't change much
@@san1a0707 what I'm saying is none of them were luking at each other or ignoring like the video maker said, wonyoung didn't turn and look at them to expect a bow I'm sure she doesn't even case also I heard she was trying to find her members that's when she saw Sakura and briefly greeted her while luking for her members n Sakura greeted back .... I m just stating how the video maker is exactly doing the same thing which escalated wonyoung hate(fake videos/overly escalated and edited) wonyoung was victim of all this haters edited videos
@@emisuyt4875 i agree with you, but the angle really doesn't change anything since it doesn't cut anything either. it's literally an interaction that lasted seconds. they also have a few other interactions which all went according to flow, so hating on anyone based off one short video is baseless
I'm really enjoying the fantasy kpop fans make and how they take any clip and make a whole story out of it, y'all don't sleep at night or what??
Y'all will sit everyday to make a new female the evil one and the saga continues idc if won or LS are mean they're just musicians on my playlist it's not like we live together lol
right? make a clip, narrating it, add caption. wow
Kpop fans are a different breed of stupidity 😂
@@AnzzCheatedOnMarkWithHaechan you can't assume not every kpop Stan is like that. It seems Ur a kpop Stan from your user;/
and then yena grabbed her bc she was alone to find her members
OMG I REMEMBER THIS. THANK GOD YENA IS RIGHT THERE APPROACHING HER😭
cuz IZONE member love WY they know shes a sweetheart
Yena is such a sweetheart she always makes sure others dont feel excluded and also a strong girl she has been through so much but didnt give up
What brought yena help
@PrinceInShadow Sakura doesn't love her tho
"You are you and and i am me"🥺
Idk why she get hates for no reason..
An angel🥺
@@sunghoonphobic people treat her dirty ,i used to hate her bcos for some sh*t editing of her being "rude" ,she do act cute(people hate it bcos it's not their culture), she's still a teenager ,she will grow mature one day and haters going to cry abt it
People judge her for being a “pick me”.. is her living her best life not legal?😭
@@Rinzzx people who call her pick me are pick me only
@@user-ul1yo3iw5r I js don’t know why ppl come at her. An actual pick me would do anything to win a man. Ppl js judge her way of eating and acting. Like leave her alone yal would do worse
Damn, no wonder why I love chaewon so much. she’s such a sweetie. her cute little wave to wonyoung when they were leaving the music bank. my heart 😍😍
She also remembers iz*one the most
@@sunghoonphobic Yep thats why i love her
chaewon >>>
I also love her soooo much
Frr 😭
All my respect goes to chaewon
Sakura too
@@maluteas nope
@@wonyoung_for_everyoung_10 why are you taking an edited clip on CZcams so seriously. Sakura and Wonyoung didn’t ignore each other. Wonyoung bowed to Sakura and Sakura clapped at her, with a smile. Sakura literally sees Wonyoung as her younger sister, these girls literally SHARED A ROOM WITH EACH OTHER, y’all fearnots and dives need to stop with the fighting
Please guys yunjin and eunchae bowed I would have supported y'all if the clips was true but these clips are not go to the original clips wonie bowed to Karina not Sakura eunchae and yunjin bowed to her and you don't know where Kazuha is looking
@@Eunchaed No hate but Karina was standing to the left of wonyoung and you can clearly see her turning back towards Kkura
Guys!! garam bowed to wonyoung too.......:((
Can't believe Garam got kicked out of Lesserafim, she deserves much better than this.
Respect for garam bow both mc
@@felixcoree people said that garam bully the other members but here i think kazuha and yunjin bullied her
I want garam back the most respectfull girl
@@wonyoung_for_everyoung_10 exactly , even if she's not in the group anymore she will always be my bias till death
The sad part is if another idol went back after forgetting to bow and bowed people would be like “omg so cute and so repectful!” But if wonyoung did that they would be like “oh she just wants to stand out from her group in front of men!” The double standard is just insane!
Frr
Righttt💀
Fr fr
What if she do it for the girls 😂
Fr💀
It is certainly interesting that haters will say Wonyoung is disrespectful and doesn’t do perfect 90 degree bow but when other females accidentally forget to bow or do a half bow no one says anything. There’s so much hate towards her. The fact she is so young and can keep her smile despite it all is truly strong of her.
Maybe cuz they only pay attention to wonyoung and didnt even notice other idols didnt bow
@@Pham_0607 comeon, she always bows(it's been debunked) even if it's 15 degrees. 15 degrees is acceptable here in Korea and only people who aren't even Korean have something to say about the tradition.
@@Pham_0607 when did I do that? Also you are really not syaing anything. Wonyoung fans are not blaming other. Also, you all can blame wonyoung for silly reason which is not even correct when le serafim is being disrespectful toward her. Just say you hate wonyoung we can understand from your words.
@@Pham_0607 nobody cares if your minji bows 90° no book says it's compulsory and you're not korean to decide what to do
@@c._.lover. Sorry but it rarely is 15 degrees, it’s usually less!!
Chaewon was the only one who waved at her
,,You are you and i am me😄"
-Jang Wonyoung
Wonyoung is literally one of the most hardworking idols in 4th gen.....Being an MC , a model for countless brand deals , being in a group whilst being a teenager is a lot.... And she normally doesn't do a 45 degree bow..... She just does a small head bow but sometimes the male mc also does that.....but the hate bandwagon is just targeted towards Wony..... Misogyny at its finest tbh....
Even other female idols get away with this behavior it's not just misogyny it's targeted hate towards wonyoung first it was hwasa then jennie now wonnie
She's also very tall so it's not easy to bow so down!!
@@sunnygirlll_2001 that and she’s very underweight (not just how she looks, she’s 5’8 and her official weight is less than 100 lbs, making her bmi in the underweight category) so if she bowed 90 degrees she would easily get light headed.
have u ever gotten up to fast and felt like u we’re gonna faint? imagine working crazy hours for promotions etc. she must b so tired
Even she so tall it is so hard to bow 90° lol
@@sus_kiddo 90° bow isn't even necessary it's very formal like greeting president or apologising even many koreans said that
Y’all CANNOT be serious omg
We should still not hate the lesserafim girls. It may have been an misunderstanding to
I’m so done with you delusional fearnots. Y’all have to realize that le sserafim is problematic af
True! If its wonyoung i bet its alrd on the trending page, but they ignore it when people is the one who being rude to her:(
😞 exactly
@@sunghoonphobic can u reupload it on ig if u have it
@@jungwonnie i don't have fanaccount insta
@@sunghoonphobic ohh
@@sunghoonphobic you have discord?
This video creator making lesserfim looks bad 🤔???
Atleast Chaewon was Nice🥺
Also I am Korean and we consider the bow yunjin did in the second clip a normal bow it doesn’t matter how much you bow ❤
But I don’t get why the creator is spreading false info about Le SSERAFIM they did nothing.
@Chaelove383 AHAHAHA SURE 💀 Miss Zuha giving her a nasty look but you call that nothing 💀💀💀 double standards
@@Kamelia1311girl SHUT UP
@@Kamelia1311so…you’re saying you were there when this all happened?
@kailylovenina8056 there's proof, how much more do you want?
I hate how everyone bashes wonyoung for literally breathing like whenever other idols do things nobody cares but when wonyoung does it they all start calling her a pick me (the baseball pitching)
No one is rude not sakura not kazuha not yujin not chaewon and not eunchae and wonyoung is such a sweet girl I don't know why people hate her but still you don't have the right to say le serafim is rude so please stop it your just trying to have beef with everyone so pls stop this nonsense 😔 😢
OMG I hate toxic fans so much...just let them live...if they suicide or something y'all say we failed to protect them..there no point saying it after what happened. And we don't know what's happening in their mind or their attention will be somewhere else so they forget to wish others it's not a big deal we all did this sometimes.
Lmao not y'all just casually starting fanwars 💀 just mind ur own effin business and support your idols without pulling other idols down.
this is why i have trust issues on the internet and in real life
you can't protect a idol while portraying other idols bad....
Ikr 😢 and suddenly many ppl started to hate yunjin too
Ikr😢
@@sunandmoon_17 yes
everyone was nice guys, stop starting a fandom war
Now moving an eye ball is a crime....🙂
Fuc_k you haters damn she saw her but didn't talked to her or respected her as she is the senior
Wonyoung doesn't deserve all of that hate, she is such a sweetheart, people would hate her for littlest things, even if she breathes, people will hate on her 🗿
we love you wony! ❤️
But is it right to pull Le Sserafim into this ?
Ya'll should really go to listen to "You never know" by Blackpink to understand how Wonyoung felt all these years with all this hate! Ya'll don't even deserve to be called humans
also there isnt a “proper” bow, a lot of koreans say its okay to just nod your head in the direction with maybe a slight bow. not bowing at all is disrespectful
They did bow tho...
@@Eunchaed i didnt say they didnt😭? edit: maybe have some reading comprehension or something because when did i ever insinuate they didnt bow, i said there isnt a proper bow and not bowing at all like not even a head nod is disrespectful :3
WTF?? I'm baffled beyond words seeing this carefully constructed video. It's clear as a day that this is not the case with them and LESSERAFIM is nowhere near to "ignoring" or "disrespecting" Wonyoung. You people will put down anyone in the pretense of defending your faves. I hoped to find common sense in the comment section but no. And to find that this acc is an engene.
@@catsare... Who's "y'all"? is it me? If you're replying to my comment then let me tell you that I've got no problem with Wonyoung or other celebrities and that is why I can say all this. Yes it is apparent for everyone that she gets majority of the hate all the time but trying to gain sympathy for her by using the same cheap method that made her look bad is also not right. Not when the other party is completely innocent. That is my point and that is the truth idk bout the kind of excuse you're implying when the clip is nothing but a delusional narrative.
Yeah but this video is to show how people like you are so blatantly hypocritical. You did not say this for wonyoung, did u defend her? Also it's these people's fans who threw hate on her for this exact video. So this vid is showing a alt perspective of how you can change the narrative.
I don't give you props for trying to constantly name a victim and villain, whether it be Wonyoung, LESSERAFIM, or anyone, especially when it comes down to the whole bowing problem, however it is true that no one bats an eye when it's someone else. They'll ignore the fact the other person didn't bow at Wonyoung and put all of their hatred into her. And no hate to indo fans, not all of you are like this, but I've noticed most Korean fans don't care because bowing is not necessary every second, the problem is pulled up by international fans and fans pretending to be Korean (a lot of them tend to be Indonesian fans, I'm sorry 😭😭). Bowing is a sign of respect and should be used in situations that call for it, however you don't need to snap your body in half 90° every time you pass by a person. In most cases where Wonyoung is called out for "disrespectful", she was either doing her job as MC, leaving the stage, winning an award (and in most of the time, she already bowed by nodding her head), or she just didn't see them and as stated before, you don't need to bow everytime you notice another person's presence.
even garam the girl who had bullying allegations bowed correctly to her
There is no correct way of bowing! Stop spreading misinformation. It's only true that the further you go down the more respectful it get. What wonyoung did was respectful.
So when Wonyoung is a victim of "evil editing" you all defend her but when another group is, you immediatly believe it...?
YESSSSSSSSSSSSS finally they edited in a wrong way!! they made le sserafim look disrespectful!!
Trueeee
Please pin
I am korean. I hate how many non Koreans try to hate on her for this not knowing how bowing works the Korea. The way she is bowing is 100% acceptable and normal. Trust me when you go to Korea almost no one will bow that low. A full 90 degree bow is only required when talking to someone extremely important like the president, you guys need to calm down.
wonyoung is like those type of idols that did nothing wrong and many ppl attacks her for no reason
if you're actually trying to stop hate then just stop trying to make people hate other idols because of one.
hating idols should be stopped asap before everyone goes
Why do parents let their 11 year old children run youtube channels?
Idk😭
faxxx
No honey just because u can’t accept it doesn’t mean the creator is 11 and they are some 11 year olds more mature than you
@@Elpiojodelghoon yea those 11 year olds who are getting fucked by their biases in their imaginations that maturity in ur opinion
@Sarahlsrath yeah better than a 60 year old Karen barking in the comments, an PLUS your name is sarah says every
See when Chaewon waved at Wonyoung how Wonyoung smiled?😊
Yeah I caught this is the main video like there whole vibe was off and Wonnie looked sad when she walked away 😐
This video just make me realise if one person start to hate, other whould start to even if there is no reason for it! I'm really worry about loosing idols like wonyoung and jennie with the way we lose sulli...
istg these wonyoung fans are starting to get on my nerves.
Yeah get mad at the Stan’s not the idol
yeah
Frr
😂😂😂 literally we don’t have to bow down to Wonyoung existence tf
@@Sandrinarhonda who said you have to bow down to Wonyoung existence haha... If all those fimmies actions were done by Wonyoung y'all will be like throwing nonstop hate on her, fck this double standard of kpop
I thought yunjin wanted to change the industry tho😂😢
if she wants to change the industry, she'd tell her fans to stop sending death threats to wonyoung and ive.. that corny ass woman will be dealt with
That's why she didn’t bow lol
@notscary Yall don't even know what you're talking about lmao she can't do any of the things above bc none of the idols on the list did it in their debut era - she doesn't have as much influence as them yet. Also bringing Jeonyeong in this topic like she didn't gain weight bc of health problems is weird.
Listen to the i am =/= doll once again and maybe you'll get what Yunjin's trying to say
@enmixsongbird what the fuck are you even saying 😭
@eh What do you want her to do? Do you want her to use self tan and scream “I like plus sized people”
I love that op said this because it’s so true it’s like when Ateez talked about meeting their youngers like KQ Fellaz 2 that some of them accidentally/purposefully talked to them casually not respectfully and they had to yell at them well remind them to speak to elders/seniors with respect yes they can be friends and they will be but they can’t go around talking so casually like that and now they talk respectfully to them, younger groups these days really aren’t treating their seniors with respect except what I’ve seen IVE, XG, New Jeans and Enhyphen just to name 4 4th gen groups are the most respectful to their seniors, but when it’s a group close to your age and debut near same time as you but still before you it’s some how ok to not be respectful and push them off, like if they act like this and get away with it the industry is showing def favoritism cause if early 3rd gen and technically very earlier 4th gen we’re like this they immediately would get in trouble and yelled at badly maybe even kicked out the group, and 2nd gen had to face threatening of their contracts, even with 4th gen now too they could risk a scandal and getting kicked out
When wonyoung is seen not bowing people throw hate and make videos that get tons of likes but now they want to defend their idols
Ateez were talking about another rookie group which already debuted, they were not talking about KQ fellaz 2 ( XIKERS), they haven't debuted yet.
They are going to debut at the end of this month.🎉🎉
@@s.alienarc I said like KQ Fellaz 2 I wasn’t actually meaning to point at KQ Fellaz 2
Yall be throwing random facts to generalize the whole kpop industry as non respectful lmao what
@@sunghoonphobic just like how you’re doing?
She retracted her hand and her smile became dull when they all looked the other way I noticed ever since she debut in ive and gaining popularity many of her old friends have become envious of her they are no longer close and many idol give her silent treatment
Cozz they jealous of her big time 😭
I mean from the start I never hated her cozz she is beautiful and I don't see the reason why people hate her so much
@@gayA3_ocean but like still that doesn't mean she deserves the hate she is getting
@@bahleniyakhe6142Some may not be jealous of her and may be trying to be careful. U never know what happens backstage
Do NOT bring other women down to bring another women up.
Nah cus why when an idol get hate y’all gotta bring other idols into it like just bc one of y’all favs are getting hate doesn’t mean you have to do bring someone else into it and y’all saying people need to stop hating wonyoung and yeah I agree but y’all basically saying that since lesserafim didn’t do it they should get hate to why only wonyoung should stop getting hated or not why do y’all want lesserafim to get hated like y’all reach so far to bring other people down to bring up y’all favs up and like I said wonyoung don’t deserve all the hate she gets it’s actually ridiculous how much people hate her but don’t think that you trying to get people to hate lesserafim too is gonna stop people from hating wonyoung any less or make you look better.
I just don’t get how y’all think bringing up other groups mistakes are gonna change anything like just stop your yelling about how much wonyoung get hate put your hating on lesserafim rn that’s not matching up there’s always a time where an idol or a whole group forget to bow to another person a the end of the end it’s never that serious to hate on them and no I’m not just talking about wonyoung and lesserafim am saying in general.
And it sound like I’m defending lesserafim and yes i am put I’m defending wonyoung too so.
I agree.
Me being a fear not and dive at the same time...watching this and realising how stupid people are 💀
Wtf I hate these type of shorts always putting down members or groups like why , I don't know if this is joke or sarcasm but stop it . Woonyoung is who she is and Leseraffim is Leseraffim , celebrities are really brave and have patience because their some fans are really dramatic and obsessed
Wtf are yall even talking abt??? No one is rude, the rude once are y’all. How dare y’all make these things up!
Stop no one disrespected anyone nor lesserafim nor wony ok??
I'm not saying this because I'm a fan but wonyoung is literally one of the kindest and most beautiful human in the world. She always smiles and she's so sweet and that's what people hate? Stop it.
Wonyoung literally get hated for being pretty. My poor baby 😢
I have a feeling there's a lot of unhealthy and toxic competition and rivalry between idols in general in kpop. Not related to this video, but you can't expect everyone to get along with everyone. That's just not possible.
True!! And kpop idols all talk to each other especially of same sex, so there could be some jealousy. And they are teenagers so they might have drama.
@roaxelie you again 💀
@@Kamelia1311 What?? I can't comment on anything?? 😐 Okay.
@roaxelie so dramatic over nothing, did I say you can't comment? 😂 what should I expect from Blinks who always blindly defend them 🙃
@@Kamelia1311 I wasn't being dramatic and no I hold blackpink accountable for what they do.
Two things people hate for a woman to be:
#1. Skinny
#2. Beautiful
Doesn't matter the race, culture, age, how nice the woman is, how healthy she is, if she has an illness, if she is naturally beautiful and skinny or got that way from surgery. Women will always despise other women for those two traits. Period.
Not to be that person but not all women are like that. Don't stereotype
Not all women are like that‚ and LE SSERAFIM were not even disrespecting Wonyoung. Stop stereotyping‚ stop creating drama‚ stop creating fan wars.
How amazingly the creator of this video decided to make lessarafims look bad just to defend wony
Fearnots, please don't create a war. Let them imagine what they wanna. All these dives can't defend their favs respectfully. These dives are literally dragging Lesserafim to defend wony. Can you tell me what was that "Miss Yunjin" for? Huh? Such a small coincidence of slight head movements and hand movements and yall are wayy to delulu
Yeah I agree I’m a dive also but, idk why dives are starting to get toxic and attacking le sserafim for some reason
Everyone wants an excuse ho hate Wonyoung but when it's their idols, everybody can do mistakes 👽
Yeah, specially the male ones
@@joywis_w totally agree male ones get love for mistake omg so cute mistake perfect mistake lol while girl idols do the same gurl don't want to be idol anymore gurl has no telent double standards.
She gets her own medicines
People are just jealous because my Wonyoung Get tha bags and well just being Wonyoung✨
Pretty,smart, talented and AAAAAAAAA
Pret lah
and cringe but she's pretty yea
@@chrybell like they're any better, their entire fandom is full of ppl who is either there bc of their tiktok humour, bc they're from hybe or because of ex izone members
@@san1a0707 mmyeah
@@ranritter9022 pret pret pret. Kagak peduli juga wy dengan pret lu
Stop bringing hate on le sserafim everyone in le sserafim Are introverts they were probably shy.
That's why Chaewon is my bias she is just so sweet ❤
i just love chawon unnie~~ i hate those hypocrites 🙄
Jennie was their first target and now their second target is wonyoung so don't care cause nothing can change the fact that Jennie is Korea,s and global IT girl and wonyoung is IT girl of fourth gen so don't care!!!
See you are right but there is no need to drag Jennie everywhere
@@sparsh_jaiswalbut still nothing can change the fact that Jennie really was and is their first target!!!!
Lisa global it girl
@@fgkajfr2347_ no it's Jennie cause Jennie was named the global IT girl by the most famous magazine,s like V magazine but Lisa was never named by any magazine it just some lilies saying this !!!!
(No hate to QUEEN LALISA though!!💛💛💛💛💛💛)
@@yamaazimi1309 okay
Y’all need to stop overanalyzing things 😪
I know this is different but damn.. imagine we don't know and k-pop idols be having their own beefs internally 💀
They obviously do companies don't let us see that
@@sunghoonphobic yeah ikr it's very obvious
@@sunghoonphobic so you are saying that le sserafim hates wonyoung?
@@kazsq probably... YK what ??? We should stop saying these things they are toxic we can't do anything
FINALLY SOMEONE ELSE NOTICED! I have been waiting for someone to make a video like this, Wonyoung really doesn't deserve all this hate, some people are really bored, anyway stan IVE
to make le sserafim look rude and mean is this what you wanted?
@@kazsq What I wanted is for someone to make a video proving that Wonyoung is not mean and rude like everyone portrays her to be. The fact that in the video LE SSERAFIM seems like the rude ones is not right of course as I don't think it's their fault either. I am sorry if you misunderstood my comment
@@my_idle OK thank you! I just don't want others to hate me serafim
@heesyeon_ Le sserafim is a mean group itself, your comment proves that you will defend your favs no matter what shit they do 💀 Kazuha gave a nasty look at Wonyoung but you let that pass, if Wonyoung did that to that bitch Zuha you would be hating her like there's no tomorrow 💀💀💀
She is not trying to be rude she just wants to fit in like the others 😢
"She didn't bow that much" At least she bowed people? I know it's culture for the more you bow the more respect you gave or whatever but she still bowed.
yall are obsessed with creating fake scenarios no one was being rude or disrespectful
People really don't know why she's hated? It is no mystery to me. She has been described as "once in a thousand years" because of her extraordinary, almost other-worldly beauty: tall, lean with gorgeous face. Youngest center of a girl group, rich, famous, member of a record setting kpop group, came from a privileged life, and she naturally carries herself like a real princess. Is it really a mystery why she gets hated but there are many, many, many more people that admire her.
Yall be taking clips out of contex
Stop hating Wonyoung for everything. As both a Fearnot and a Dive, I hate neither of them. The one I hae here are you guys, stop always making them look like uneducated people. Sakura and Chaewon are nice , they said bye to Wony(They were ex-band members). But that doesn’t mean ‘Le Sserafim is good and Wonyoung is bad’ , it just proves you guys are making drama and it’s problematic.
Okay- I Stan both of the groups and I love wonyoung so much, but for some reason I just don’t like the concept of this video, Le SSERAFIM is NOT making her a VILLAIN. I don’t have any idea where that word came up, and There not rude, or disrespectful. And for this creator to say that is very disrespectful because they do not have any idea what’s going on behind cameras, and no, I’m not saying “Wonyoung is a bad senior” but wonyoung didn’t bow properly to her seniors either, I just don’t think it’s fair, she did a slight head bow to Blackpink, BTS, and Aespa. And got not as nearly Ridiculous comments as this creator is giving LE SSERAFIM.
Honestly I love both groups and I’m not being biased, but please stop posting videos like this when you don’t know what’s going on, I post videos about rude things the fans say, but videos like this are the reason bully scandals happen and half of them aren’t true.
I know a TON of people are going to comment about this, and I have had no problems with this creators other content, but please just bare with me here. And plus half this creators videos is Wonyoung. So that proves they are mostly biased. It was a coincidence.
Are you even korean? Why is it always you international fans that talk about Korean culture as if you know it like the back of your hand?
Literally where is your proof that she hasn’t bowed properly to her seniors?
y'all, it really aint that deep. they're all probably friends and y'all just sitting here arguing lookin stupid, I jus know they laughing at y'all
just goes to show how wonyoung’s achieved it girl status: everyone tries to make her the villain in everything
Y’all I’m not a fear not or a dive but is this really our business? Their might be something behind the scenes that we don’t know so don’t make assumptions
i feel so bad for wonyoung, if wonyoung did this, she wouldve got sm hate but just bc its le sserafim, people defended them?
I'm not a dive nor a lsf fan but what i know is dives have to fight with dives before fight with others because most of the wonyoung haters are dive. Most of them are gauel, liz, rei biased dives. They are hating wonyoung & making look her bad because they think that their favs don't get much lines because wy. I was a dive my self & i tried to protect wy from lots of dives who were biased other members of ive, then it was bit hard bcs those hates were getting bigger with their every comeback so i had to give up on it. But this is not a secret, even lots of other fandom know about it.
This is so true. So many dives hate wony for no reason and pull the whole group down. Including encouraging more people to hate ive, I'm convinced they are just antis in disguise
They ain't dives they are just those toxic solo stans
Exactly
This.. the other day I saw vid of how much lines Liz got for their new song and I feel very bad for Liz. But then I went to read the comments and all the Liz stans were calling Wonyoung name and saying it’s all her fault (she didn’t even get the most lines or was given the decision to distribute them). One even said that the company is stupid for promoting a skeleton with a eating disorder and not real talent, bro what.
I’ve seen liz stans (yeah I’m sure that they are the token stans) protest that Liz got a few lines than wonyoung in Kitsch and said that the second line after first chorus should be given to Liz, not WY. And now the token stans protest AGAIN for the WY’s screentime yet she had the least lines😭😭😭
Nobody's out in arms for yunjin and eunchae not bowing.. for them it's OK coz they are from hybe they can be disrespectful
Just because they are from hybe doesn't make it ok
@@annagreenwell2005 but that is what's happening.. they r not being called out and attacked for months on end like wonyoung does even when it's not true.. it's called the hybe privilege.. when the company's artists have that many followers u can get away with anything
@@annagreenwell2005 there company has 0 to do with any of this.
@@eternalghostlord bro i thought this video was to point out the double standard not to hate on other idols
@@brookelampkin-hx5mz ud be surprised at how crazy hybe stans actually are
Kazuha is sooo beautiful 🤍
she side eyed wonyoung
wonyoung is too
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Please go check your eyes
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"uhm actually lesserafim disrespected wonyoung🤓🤓🤓"
they did and stay mad!
@@psyche980 they didnt
What do you mean Le sserafim disrespected Wonyoung ,Wonyoung is like this with every idol.When other idols bow to her she act like she it the queen and queens doesn't have to bow back
This isn’t defending! It’s only contributing to the toxicity of hate. You’re doing exactly what your upset with others for doing. What does that solve? None of us know what is really happening in any of these situations.
if the actions were reversed wonyoung would be villainized like crazy
Imagine being ignored by your ex-member
I can feel for Sakura😢
@@banplastic111 what… she’s the one who ignored wonyoung
@@Pusse_inpfpsakura not ignore wonyoung, look at the full video sakura smile to wonyoung and take her hand. You guys wonyoung fan trying to make another grup look bad 💀
@@angelinak.6931 Yeah ik I'm just saying she got ignored this time
@@angelinak.6931 But I'm not making sakura look bad I'm sure she's a great person with a sweet personality I'm just saying she just ignored wy
Finally someone who is right....When I always try to explain to others that wonyoung isn't rude they always point out to random moments.....why they do this to wony always?
she is right for making le sserafim bad? do you want to loose the whole group like gram did?
@@kazsq actually I am both fearnot & dive so....people always make wonyoung look like the villain but I am not hating on kazuha or lesserafim
@@dahyUnnie_07 umm it's fearnot not fearless..
@@dahyUnnie_07 ok i understand but aren't they also making le sserafim look villain?? And the fact that they put false allegations on le sserafim! I have cleared everything on my channel and my video..
Don’t trust social media. Some idols look so innocent and friendly but when they off camera, they are just too arrogant and bad people. But if you see previous clips of Wonyoung off camera she treat her staff well and even pick up some trashes before leaving the stage. She is absolute angel, I was bit angry about she didn’t bow to her seniors but I think there is something going with idols. Don’t hate her, you know nothing about her. I don’t want something to happen to her like Garam. She was bullied by her classmates but her bullies did something or post something about her falsely but people believed it and now People ruined 16 year girl’s life. People are just monsters.
The bowing thing is fake and was made up by international fans. If your see no Korean is offended and those videos were edited (many people don't bow to her, and even a little nod is as respectful). So you don't need to be mad about that.
Yup, I have slowly stopped liking certain kpop idols because it’s obvious of what type of a person they are. I still have my favourites, they are angels and I will always be on their side.
@@via45 where was this Energy when wony was hated back to back?? 😂
@@wonychae672She does not need to defend if she is not a fan ,she shouldn't hate but there is no obligation to defend her
Then why was no Korean offended? LE SSERAFIM did not even disrespect Wonyoung‚ stop fighting. As a Fearnot and a Dive‚ I am sick of you all hating on LE SSERAFIM.
Im pretty sure wonyoung bowed at karina and sakura smiled at wonyoung
And i forgot to mention,but i think wonyoung is not their senior.(no hate to anyone)
Nope she is their senior. All izone members that are still active are Seniors. And ive debuted before le sserafim . So The whole Ive are Seniors to Yujin, Eumchae and kazuha.
Won young doesn’t deserve the hate but you shouldn’t talk or hate on other idols because your basically giving others the hate that won young got even tho it might be less that doesn’t mean you should let another idol suffer even if they disrespected your idol
Look the fact is u can't judge any idol's action through these footage bcuz CAMERA ANGLE ARE VERY IMPORTANT, it can create illusion and cuz misinterpretation , things might look different from different angle.
2nd bowing 90°all the time is a personal choice and not a necessity
(I don't know
Much about korean culture so i don't have right to say much about that )
3rd i don't know y wony get so much hate, but for a fact I think it is bcuz of starship, I think they kinda control her actions but doesn't protect her from haters as they want to make profit of every type of attention weather it's bad or good, they don't care 😑
This is correct, from this camera angle, we dont get to know if yunjin and wonyoung even saw each other, so it would only be right to bow if they noticed each other.
omg finally someone with common sense and no hate
@@malgekyo2950 the rest of the people discuss their reason to hate on lessarafim. If we commoners would be idols then everything we do would be villainised 😂 A person minding their business and doing a natural action such as looking around or turning, then someone will pick that moment to hate u, edit in slow motion and add background music 😂😂
@@yupikadu3938 yup i would be crucified if i was an idol and apparently this video is edited ...the creator edited the part where they said hi and bowed 💀
girlll if my hair is as styled gorgeously as wonyoung's i wouldn't even bother bowing at all like girll thesee locks are too precious for me to be giving yall a 90 degree bow💅💅💅
I hate le sserafim so much.
Slsksksnsks like whoever cares 😂
garam tho
She was the only one who properly bowed to wony along with chaewon
yall love too assume. stop coming for lesserafim
This video is very misleading they bowed to Wonyoung and smiled they might not give everyone one a smile because they might be tired there is nothing but interactions we can't judge by that don't spread misleading information to "defend" your favorite idols