The Development and Demise of Fallout: Tactics 2

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  • čas přidán 4. 08. 2024
  • Episode 12 of Fallout: Tactics - The Cutting Room Floor. A series where we take an in-depth look at the design, development and cut content of Micro Forte's Fallout Tactics. In this episode, we take a look at the development and ultimate demise of the ultimately canceled Fallout: Tactics 2, a story that spans multiple development studios and attempts, including Micro Forte and Shiny Entertainment.
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    Chapters
    00:00 Intro
    01:00 Fallout Tactics 2
    10:08 The Demise of Micro Forte
    13:46The Second Attempt
    18:18 Outro
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Komentáře • 76

  • @TriangleCity
    @TriangleCity  Před rokem +100

    Correction: At one point I say March 13th, but the actual date is March 12th. Here's what's most likely the final video of Fallout Tactics: The Cutting Room Floor series. Thank you so much for supporting my channel and coming along for the ride! 🖤🖤🖤

    • @gkdunch
      @gkdunch Před rokem +1

      i demand you reupload this video, this mistake is absolutely irreversable.
      all jokes aside im in awe of how you uncover all the information in these games

  • @EatWave
    @EatWave Před rokem +36

    It seems that the pressure to move away from RPG mechanics came very early in the series' run.

  • @traptastic4864
    @traptastic4864 Před rokem +18

    76's mire has an extremely similar background to the tactics 2 idea of a radioactive swamp GECK, which considering how much 76 references the never made games and cut concepts it might not be coincidence.

  • @Swedishmafia101MemeCorporation

    This game had a lot of cool stuff. Probably the only Fallout game that heavily featured usable vehicles, which I would like to see return.

    • @OrgusDin
      @OrgusDin Před rokem

      That kind of talk is how we ended up with The Frontier.

    • @Swedishmafia101MemeCorporation
      @Swedishmafia101MemeCorporation Před rokem +9

      @@OrgusDin I don't think vehicles were one of The Frontier's problems. More like a redeeming quality, if anything.

    • @Niggurath-n4h
      @Niggurath-n4h Před rokem

      “Imagine Fallout Tactics in 3d with the same style as Tactics is.”
      This was what I was hoping to happen in the next Fallout Tactics 2. As in my opinion, the squad team play, vehicles and other excellent part of tactics is what make it much better than the first two Fallouts.

    • @C_Ketsukane
      @C_Ketsukane Před rokem +5

      @@OrgusDin frontier bad shit is so annoying. We get it, the quests and the writing was awful. However acting like the technical feats the mod managed to pull off are somehow bad by association is just delusional. Hopefully the standalone vehicle release comes out soon so you people can stop retching at one of the most impressive mechanical implementations the modding scene has ever had simply for being packaged with a shitshow.

  • @Killgore-ip2yq
    @Killgore-ip2yq Před rokem +30

    You make Fallout franchise more amazing with these videos. Thank you for exploring this universe as much as possible.

  • @Matt-md5yt
    @Matt-md5yt Před rokem +11

    Glad you talked about this topic my friend, I think Tactics is an underrated gem.

  • @Steel-101
    @Steel-101 Před rokem +32

    I subscribed to this channel not too long ago and man I am just overwhelmed with the amount of content that was cut. Don’t get me wrong I’m happy with what we have but still it would’ve been cool to see a lot of the stuff mentioned in these videos. For example: I would’ve liked to see that sea Vault (Cut content for Fallout 4)

  • @andrewparker1622
    @andrewparker1622 Před rokem +15

    Honestly some of these videos give amazing insight to Interplay post Fallout 2 and Tactics. They really just had no idea where they wanted to take the series and were constantly second-guessing themselves

    • @klaykid117
      @klaykid117 Před rokem

      For as much as a lot of fanboys hate Bethesda it's clear that the series was going down a very different path before interplay died.

    • @Idazmi7
      @Idazmi7 Před rokem +2

      @@klaykid117
      Fallout Tactics 2 wasn't being directly developed by Interplay.

  • @ludvig218
    @ludvig218 Před rokem +8

    Thank you for all your hard work making so many great videos covering the fallout franchise!

  • @atlas7783
    @atlas7783 Před rokem +5

    Its always a good day when ya get to learn more about your favorite game franchise!!!!

  • @Save_Frog
    @Save_Frog Před rokem +3

    This is actually really interesting. There's a reason this channel is one of the only ones where i rang the bell

  • @thewanderer8720
    @thewanderer8720 Před rokem +1

    I think the Idea of a plant covered City with weird Plant life and massive creatures could have a been an amazing idea.

  • @ScorpionCar
    @ScorpionCar Před rokem +4

    Fantastic video released just one day after the 25th anniversary of the Fallout Franchise 👍

  • @theoneandonlydetraebean8286

    Next video:
    New Vegas: The dead cannot rest until all cut content is talked about

    • @TriangleCity
      @TriangleCity  Před rokem +1

      I'm not even sure what to call the next New Vegas Cut content video lmao

  • @modelnanpresident
    @modelnanpresident Před rokem +1

    Great video

  • @awholebunchofturbulence
    @awholebunchofturbulence Před rokem +1

    0:26 "lucky shot that time"
    *dies*

  • @beairmann
    @beairmann Před rokem

    I almost missed this one!

  • @ComradeSun
    @ComradeSun Před měsícem

    Fallout Tactics despite its game play flaws is one of my favorite Fallout games. And yes it's canon Scribe Rothschild and Caeser both reference to Midwestern Brotherhood. Caesar reporting the legion has captured Brotherhood scribes out East who didn't know who Maxson was in Fallout New Vegas, suggesting the Midwestern Brotherhood survived the Calculator and destroyed it getting the neutral ending maintaining some presence in the wasteland, and had evolved to be different than the main Brotherhood. The events of what happened after Tactics for the Midwestern Brotherhood is up for imagination until more lore is added. Would love to see Midwestern Brotherhood and Main Brotherhood butt heads and the player has the choice to resolve issues for either group peacefully or otherwise.

  • @joeypeawood4656
    @joeypeawood4656 Před rokem +3

    Love your videos, could never actually get into any Fallout games but I find the coverage fascinating. You should have over 100k by now

  • @ZombieGFL
    @ZombieGFL Před rokem +3

    I love your content, thanks for providing so many vids; I could endlessly listen to info about these games and developers, pure nostalgia and intrigue!
    ps we have alligators not crocs :]

    • @TriangleCity
      @TriangleCity  Před rokem

      There are Crocodiles in South Florida actually 😉

  • @JimUK
    @JimUK Před rokem +2

    I can't think of any other franchise that has had as many missed opportunities as Fallout.

  • @phillipwagner6669
    @phillipwagner6669 Před rokem

    Hey what's the background music you're using around 13:00? It sounds so cool.

  • @pitchforker3304
    @pitchforker3304 Před rokem

    I loved Fallout Tactics. It scratches its own unique itch, sometimes I still boot it up. Didn't know much about plans for Tactics 2 -- great video, thanks!

    • @TriangleCity
      @TriangleCity  Před rokem +1

      To me it's the most underrated game in the series. Thank you for watching! 💜💜💜

  • @myles4714
    @myles4714 Před rokem +2

    Dope shit

  • @gazhevski
    @gazhevski Před rokem

    Where's that intro music from again?

  • @ovenram
    @ovenram Před rokem +1

    I wouldn't mind another tactical action, maybe XCOM-style Fallout game. With all the cool gear the different factions have, even a more arcadey/competitive multiplayer-focused game could work.

  • @ironreed2654
    @ironreed2654 Před rokem

    Crocodiles are in fact only in Florida but Alligators are in like 6 states if they needed to stretch that idea.

  • @Chonsu247
    @Chonsu247 Před rokem

    Really wish Fallout Tactics would get a sequel. Loved the first one.

    • @TriangleCity
      @TriangleCity  Před rokem +1

      Same. Tactics holds a special place in my heart

  • @truepatriot6589
    @truepatriot6589 Před rokem

    I really love Fallout: Tactics. I would love for them to remake Tactics 1 or restart Tactics 2 on the Creation Engine. It's a game that'd really shine in a 3D environment, with a command system like from 4 but with WAY more polish. It'd be amazing.

  • @DSlyde
    @DSlyde Před rokem

    Why can't I see this video in the video list?

  • @Niggurath-n4h
    @Niggurath-n4h Před rokem +3

    “Imagine Fallout Tactics in 3d with the same style as Tactics is.”
    This was what I was hoping to happen in the next Fallout Tactics 2. As in my opinion, the squad team play, vehicles and other excellent part of tactics is what make it much better than the first two Fallouts.

  • @republicradio431
    @republicradio431 Před rokem +1

    I though it was going to be about 76, someone should tell us the story about what happend with that game some day, its a shame that peoples job depend on not commenting about it

  • @blackmesacake5361
    @blackmesacake5361 Před rokem

    I don't know where the Fallout series would be right now if Tactics 2 did come out, but I imagine things would have become ugly for Interplay much quicker.

  • @TheGamedragon96
    @TheGamedragon96 Před rokem

    I saw a video review of Fallout tactics that included reviews from the time and even then reviews were saying Microforte got done dirty. It's messed up that they made a really good game and then still got fucked over like this.

  • @samsargent284
    @samsargent284 Před rokem

    As a Floridian I love the idea of Fallout Tactics 2, wish the modding community for Fallout 2 would give more attention to the Tactics engine but they're more interested in stealing sprites lol.

  • @ironreed2654
    @ironreed2654 Před rokem

    I mean Fallout Tactics itself was a half finished difficult to play game, its hard to imagine it was ever getting a direct sequel except for Fallouts habit of trying to get 2 games per engine.

    • @TriangleCity
      @TriangleCity  Před rokem

      Feargus Urquhart wanted to produce a sequel, but Interplay was facing financial difficulties at that point. It was definitely unfinished, but Micro Forte also had completely unrealistic expectations put on them and were only given a couple weeks for bug fixing.

  • @basedsneedclave175
    @basedsneedclave175 Před rokem +2

    “A ghoul and super mutant nursery”
    Uhhhhhh did they not know ghouls and especially super mutants can’t reproduce hell it was a major plot point of fallout 1.

    • @jakespacepiratee3740
      @jakespacepiratee3740 Před rokem +2

      Fallout Tactics is like the original Fallout 76, a Glitchy, Rushed, Lore-Inaccurate Fallout Game, but it’s still fun and opens up cool possibilities.

  • @Pyromancer_
    @Pyromancer_ Před rokem +1

    Ay

  • @themanwithnoname4385
    @themanwithnoname4385 Před rokem +1

    I like the way you pronounce polygonal

  • @gertywhatagash_
    @gertywhatagash_ Před rokem

    Alligators are native to Florida. Crocodiles aren't even in North America.

    • @TriangleCity
      @TriangleCity  Před rokem +1

      The concept art is called a croc and there are actually American Crocodiles in Florida

  • @ded2thaworld963
    @ded2thaworld963 Před rokem +3

    Random encounters in 1 and 2 was great…how can he say they were the worst!?😭

    • @TriangleCity
      @TriangleCity  Před rokem +7

      I was talking about Tactics specifically, not Fallout 1 or 2

  • @danwoods8195
    @danwoods8195 Před rokem +2

    so ur telling me i should wipe out the brotherhood? based.

  • @alexm5327
    @alexm5327 Před rokem +2

    I hate fans of first and second Fallout. Whole series is filled with aggressive fans, but the original fans of Fallout 1 and 2 are the worst.

    • @TriangleCity
      @TriangleCity  Před rokem +3

      Some of them aren't bad, but generally I agree.

    • @vonfaustien3957
      @vonfaustien3957 Před rokem

      Just rember very mention of Fallout BOS repels the denizens of NMA like the elder sign repels eldritch horrors and you'll be fine.
      It's common for interplay fanboys to recoil in pain or burst into flame whe faced with Interplays greatest sin

    • @Idazmi7
      @Idazmi7 Před rokem

      @@vonfaustien3957
      Fallout 76.

    • @vonfaustien3957
      @vonfaustien3957 Před rokem

      @@Idazmi7 still only the second worst game in the franchise

    • @Idazmi7
      @Idazmi7 Před rokem +1

      @@vonfaustien3957
      Oh no, no: Bethesda *directly* created Fallout 76. They didn't outsource it to some nobody studio with no talent and no money... and they *still* managed to royally screw the pooch.
      Meanwhile, everything you blame Interplay for wasn't even made by Interplay. 🤔

  • @Sofus.
    @Sofus. Před rokem

  • @hmanvlogs2956
    @hmanvlogs2956 Před rokem +3

    Anything for less brotherhood of steel in the fallout lore/canon I am all for, I just wanna see them as a faction completely fucking decimated gone almost out right
    Fucking tired of the stupid boring ass faction

    • @CorvoFG
      @CorvoFG Před rokem +5

      They are overused. The Enclave also needs wiping out completely and for good.

    • @hmanvlogs2956
      @hmanvlogs2956 Před rokem

      @@CorvoFG Seriously, I am tired of seeing them over and over again According to Bethesda every single commonwealth and state is going to be made up of the same four factions, a small boring ass world they’re making, While we’re at it lets get rid of super mutants, and if we’re gonna bring them back I wanna see them like they were in the second fallout game

    • @Undead38055
      @Undead38055 Před rokem +2

      Or at least substantially different in a good way. Midwest was extremely different, often accepting of outsiders and even mutants. Personally I don’t care if they use the brother of steel but they have to stop making them repetitive. Make them different in a way that’s not only interesting but also let’s you learn that not every chapter is the same. As for the mutants, their story as an enemy to humanity has ended. They aren’t a threat and Bethesda should stop fucking milking them. Enclave is fine just so long as they aren’t the main bad guy. Maybe like if they were a faction you could actually work for and not make them just another raider with power armor.

    • @hmanvlogs2956
      @hmanvlogs2956 Před rokem +1

      @@Undead38055 That’s my problem is that they’re turning, well before I finish that I should specify fallout 4 was kind of like this to kind a high degree, in fallout 76 it’s pretty much all this, they’re turning it into a shooting gallery, a looter shooter, that’s never what it was about, it was never about the crazy monsters, it was about the stories and the characters and that’s not what they’re focusing on with their fallouts and that’s my one main huge gripe if I had to only say one, Spend some time to come up with new factions vine for dominance over an area rather than just the brotherhood and the rest

    • @Undead38055
      @Undead38055 Před rokem +1

      @@hmanvlogs2956 Yeah I get you. But I suppose that’s not what makes money. But like…there’s plenty of other games that sold extremely well BECAUSE they put everything into story and gameplay mechanics. It’s unfortunate to see that Bethesda is letting fallout die as an RPG and making it into a boring shooter looter. Even the “stories” aren’t what they used to be.