I was called a fascist by a teacher as a freshman in high school….the first of many in those four years. I simply stated that a mother’s place was with her children….
One thing that shocks me most with my predominantly left-wing friends is that if you defend someone's freedom of opinion you're automatically accused of having that same opinion - for them, freedom of speech only applies if you think what they think.
It’s funny, most people on the right hold this same viewpoint. The saying “I may not agree with what he says, but I’ll fight to the death for his right to say it”, is only said when someone on the right says something extreme. You’ll never hear a right wing talking head say this about anyone on the left when they say something.
Exactly. It's duplicitous authoritarian thinking. It's why the left used to be advocates of free speech in the past and why now they aren't. The thought leaders were only ever interested in their freedom until they had acquired or believed that they had acquired enough power to assert their own values. "When I am weaker than you, I ask for freedom because that is according to your principles; when I am stronger than you, I take away your freedom because that is according to my principles." God-Emperor Leto Atreides II in Frank Herbert's Children of Dune.
I was called a racist fascist when a guy was literally caught by me stealing things from the store I worked at. He said he'd call a lawyer. Okay, I said, please sue us for being racist fascists for not letting you steal hundreds of dollars of merchandise.
"When I am Weaker Then You, I ask you for Freedom because that is according to your principles; when I am Stronger than you, I take away your Freedom Because that is according to my principles." Politics in a nuttshell
I got called a Fascist by a woke male feminist because I supported Tulsi Gabbard! Now I'm reading Nietzsche and Evola so I guess I'm a "Super Fascist" ha, ha.
Lol a teacher in highschool confiscated my book(Nietzsche's On the Genealogy of Moral) and call my mom to tell her I was becoming a neo n... Something about Nietzsche love of virtue, beauty and truth, I guess.
I really thought skin heads and the KKK was a thing of the past. Then this older guy talked about how he spent most of his life helping the black community and he had decided to embrace racism after watching the protests.
In my university classroom my lecturer and the majority of the classroom said that I had internalised fascism for stating that a disabled person would have a more difficult life than a non-disabled person if all else is equal. People who hold normal values should forgo non-necessary education. We ought to study the classics in our own time while we take formal education in engineering, architecture, medicine, or a trade. Fantastic video btw, you got a new subscriber for life 👍👍
Be radical, be absolute, have principles. Be that which that the bugoiuses call an extremists. Give yourself without counting or calculating. Never accept what they say are the facts of life, act in such a way that that life will never accept you. Never abandon the principle of struggle.
@@CMA418 You realize that millions of people throughout history have died for matters of principle, right? Doesn't that qualify as the principles being "tested," and held onto anyway?
Im 50 and can remember when the things considered "fascist" or "far right extremist" were considered normal everyday political discourse debated in Parliaments and on TV. Opinions that once were and still are held by large swaths of the population then began to be treated as 'extremist' and socially unacceptable. It was a blatant attempt to recatogorise mainstream opinions as dangerous and abhorrent. I feel sorry for the younger generation who dont have the bigger picture and just uncriticaly accept these assumptions as fact. The dont know that the goal posts were shifted.
I tell my kids, when we talk about post-modern liberal ideals, it's not a matter of hate or phobia, but a matter of not normalizing lifestyle that would destroy the civilization of we all converted. We can all have the same religion, language, values etc. and society would function just fine. We can't all be gay, or on drugs, or antisocial, so don't normalize it.
Very well put. I tolerate some of it to an extent, we are a free country, but i most certainly strongly resist normalizing or even celebrating any of these dysfunctional ideas.
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So, conform or be an outcast. Not fascist but definitely intolerant. Read what you want but don't inflict it on me.
You've got the causation the wrong way around. The culture is in a state of decay because the "meritocracy" has long since been destroyed. And so people resort to hedonism and despair. If you genuinely believe that the current system is based on meritocracy; then you are too brainwashed and part of the very decay. You are a Roman refusing to admit Rome has already fallen.
Yes, I have a 'which is better' way of looking at it, similar to what you do. Which is better - everyone doing marijuana or no one doing it? Everyone being promiscuous and no one? Everyone being gay or no one? What do the answers to such questions tell us about acceptable vs. not-acceptable behavior?
@@itssteve6018 Fascism was formed as an ideology in 1917 after the last two great monarchies of Europe were ended by Communism following WWI. Without the Nationalist monarchies of Germany and Russia there was nothing to oppose the spread of Communism. A replacement for monarchism had to be found as it was ultimately to weak to fight the red terror. A new stronger nationalist ideology was necessary to oppose the commies and it was so strong that it took three empires, England, Russia and the USA to defeat it. Germany's economic recovery following the Wiemar Republic was the so swift and effective that modern nations should adopt the economic policies of post Wiemar Republic Germany.
Forty years ago I was called a fascist by my political philosophy professor because I said I believed in an unseen numinous world. My communist uncle called me a fascist because I dared to rebuke him for stealing family property . .And recently I found I was being touted as a fascist because I played an excerpt from Julius Evola's "The Metaphysics of War " to a friend. Its obviously a badge of honour
Because it is meant to be an insult. It is used by intellectually limited people who are unable to argue rationally with people who don't share their opinions. It can be translated as "Errr ... I don't like what you say but can't explain why."
Attacking 'Liberalism' instead of 'Leftism' is a grievious error. Anti rational, authoritarian Leftist extremism is the death of true Liberalism. The Constitution is true Liberalism.
Anarchism is the most far right that you can get. Communism represents total governmental control and is the most far left you can get thus Anarchism the least government control that you can have has to be the most extreme right wing possible. All other ideologies fall some where between these two on the political spectrum.
I remember as I delved into trying to understand the Woke it basically got to the point that anything that promoted a healthy life was considered white supremacy. My genealogy of ideas that shaped the modern world lead me to becoming Catholic. The Protestant Revolution and Enlightenment ideas probably started off like any other seed, looked good but we are now seeing the fruit these seeds bear. I started to ask what are we trying to conserve as Conservative Christians in America? Well the Protestant mostly just seems to want to only go back to the 1950's and isn't as conservative as they think. They still want to preserve the tree. They think they can cut down all the fruit and the tree won't just eventually grow back the same disgusting fruit. My take is all the good Right Wing thought is already in Catholicism but not all Right Wing thought is consistent with Catholicism and in my belief the Truth.
So interesting to read this. Have been exploring a lot of ring wing ideas and have only in the last 2wks gotten to the point of finding how it crosses over with Catholicism. Keen to explore Catholicism and would appreciate your suggestions where to start.
The truth is in pre-christian religion. Catholicism, and Christianity, Jesus and his own teachings, tend us toward degeneracy and cowardice and weakness.
Perhaps looking at it from more of a Platonic perspective might help: Rather than ask “What are we trying to conserve?”, the question is really, “What does it mean to live (or have) a good life?” Then you might ask, what is ‘good’, and why should we apply it to life (or to ‘a life’ or to ‘our life’)? Then you may ask, Are there things so good as to be required, even by use of force? And are there things so evil as to be rejected, even to the point of use of force? Then, perhaps, you will begin to understand that the ‘common good’ is not the highest form of philosophy - which is, at its heart, fascism (and it’s kissing cousin, leftist progressive-socialist thought). Man is too broken as to be trusted to dictate and enforce the ‘common good’ either well or in common. Nor is the ‘individual rights’ the highest form of philosophy - which is, at its heart, anarchist libertarianism. Man is too broken as to not love himself and hate his neighbor in equal measure. And coming thus, you might find that what C.S. Lewis called the Tao neatly fits the bill of what you are looking for to ‘conserve’. And that is no rejoining of church and state (Roman Catholicism), or return to monarchal or socialist ‘benevolent dictatorship’. Instead, a ‘conservation’ that perhaps whatever *IS* wrong with the world is *ME* , might take hold and order the thoughts - and thus, lives - of men. But it starts with asking the question ‘What is a ‘good life’?”
I like the line that classical republican ideals are being watered down and called fascism.
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The Koch brothers destroyed the classical republican. Today the gop is half maga (fascist) and the rest are terrified of maga Cowards and crazies. The corporate Dems are right of center, essentially the modern conservative.. Interestingly, a republic can be fascist. Not all citizens are guaranteed a vote. Look it up
Yeah no, just because someone isnt a commie like Bernie Sanders, who spent his homeymoon in the Soviet Union and was best pals with commie lunatics in Nicaragua and Venezuela, does not make them “right of center”. You can still be in favor of a business friendly capitalist market economy and be left of center. Progressives and Democratic socialists are not left of center, they are left wing and far left.
There's no such thing as "neo" liberalism. This title was created by a german economist, Alexander Rustow whom realized the original big gov planned economic model proposed by socialists was a tremendous failure. So he wanted to create a bridge beetween classic liberalism and Keynesian policies. So basically the so called neo-cons like John Bolton, Bush, D.Chenney and most republicans. But not all the conservatives and righwingers are like that.
@@wilfred309 No, is the leftie turds that adore trowing it randomly when they ran out of money to keep up their "free equality for all" rethoric when inflation abstracts their useless exesive spending in welfare. THEN, usually they restore afterwards into a dirty crony state capitalism in order to survive, but without reaching an actual free market because they would end up being the hypocrates they are.
@@wilfred309 neo liberal cannot exist because classical liberalism and Keynesian policies cannot coexist and what "neo liberals" actually are tend to have too much of an association with genocide for them feel comfortable calling themselves that. You cannot have a free society micromanaged by the state.
And why is the right called "far right" five times more often than the left is called "far left"? To get this statistic, I searched Google for the exact phrase "far right" and then for the exact phrase "far left". The phrase "far right" returned 151 million results whereas "far left" returned 30 million results -- and of course 151M is five times more than 30M.
Liberalism is inherently right-wing which would mean they would need to distinguish themselves from the culturally conservative, whom they've labelled "far-right". + It's a smear tactic due to the inherent connotation with the Austrian painter. Cultural conservatism goes against the very nature of a capitalist, liberal economy.
I would use the term, "far left" to describe a public figure for whom that term was accurate. I am not aware of any at the moment though. Not in the US anyway.
Because people who use the term “far right” think anything right of center, or right of their own political views are “fascist”. Ask any of them to explain to you the difference between what they consider to be “far right” versus “moderate right”, and all you get is stuttering and a deer in the headlights look.
I can disagree with certain elements of Plato, Nietzche, Heidegger, and any philosopher I have ever read. Some I agree more with than others. But everyone of them I have gained valuable insight.
Fascism, by definition, is the integration and fusion of corporate power and The State, not a person with illiberal views we disagree with, but we are not supposed to realise that.
_"Fascism, by definition, is the integration and fusion of corporate power and The State"_ No. That is the definition of Corporatocracy. Fascism was only about the State and its power.
No, fascism is the subsuming of ALL cultural entities within the state. That's corps, syndicates, unions, religions, clubs, etc. All become organs of the state, hence the common names Fascism (bound together) and Corportism (like a body).
I'm Caucasian, wear all black (not Goth), and got a fresh undercut haircut last week. The Hasidic Jew across from me on the train called me this then proceeded to move and tell others in an effort to get me shamed or lynched or whathaveyou when I started laughing at him. I live in Utah; I didn't know we even had Jews.
@Mr.Ambrose_Dyer_Armitage_Esq. Oh yeah, that explains it. I f****** hate SLC. I’m in SLC at a restaurant this very moment and can’t wait to GTFO. I live in sunny St George 🌞
The thing is -- Nazism is not politically right, but left. The rights of individuals and freedom *from* government is politically Right; the dominance of and enslavement *to* government is politically Left. Fascism is authoritarian. To which political ideology is authoritarianism more easily aligned, those who want freedom *from* government, or those want enslavement *to* government? The link of fascism to the Right is due the endless repetition of lies by a Leftist revisionism via their incessant redefinition of words and rewriting of history. As far as more government goes, George Orwell had the perfect description of what Leftist ideology brings in his novel "1984" -- "If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stomping on a human face forever."
Your assessment of humanity's attitude toward right wing anti liberalism and especially liberal's defensive attitude toward it is excessively generous.
But, since they can only keep their power, if they destroy the family, so that the communist state can raise the children, like it was written in Brave New World, the institution of the family is their enemy Nr.1.
Unpopular opinion: if you don't define Nazism and Fascism you name everything as them. Since I am one of the last adults on this planet, Nazism is the socialism only for the people of the same nation, fascism in the binding of syndicates and corporations under a unified national statehood. Both regard the entities external to the Nation as hostile to the nation. Both regard philosophy as necessity for statehood. Finally both regard jewry as danger to the Nation, but mostly because the luck of assimilation among some Issues that even to mention will mean that I can literally end up to jail. If the people cannot understand this paragraph mankind is already dead, since there is no understanding of the CONSEQUENCES of these statements. For me the situation has already settled and I watch society as is at the last stage of collapse, whether cultural or moral or even technological. Good day Gentlemen.
Renes Descartes would say to define the meaning of words, similar to what Confucian said. Give pragmatic working definitions for the meaning of the word or words. I.e describe things properly. But in order to give something its proper name, can use hegels method explained in the doctrine of being. An apple 🍎 seed doesn't contain the blueprint to create a lemon 🍋 tree. The specific aroma, smell, colour, texture, i.e material. I don't think you gave fascism it's proper name and used a reductionist way to and gave caricatured version of what you define it to be.
Well , Nazism is a third-way economically and derives from Volkisch ideology and German Romanticism and nationalism. Nazism is syncretic and integrates characteristics from of many ideologies, including classical liberalism , socialism and conservatism. From socialism, Nazism took a collectivist view of society and a rejection of capitalism ( in particular finance capital , but was friendly to productive capital - the "national producers" ). From classical liberalism, Nazism took the preservation of private property , profits , individual initiative and social Darwinism. From Conservatism , Nazism took the maintenance of gender roles , a rejection of "degeneracy" like homosexuality and prostitution and an organic view of society. It really wasn't socialism for the nation , it was a new unique ideology ( I just finished "Understanding Nazi Ideology" so I thought I'd comment on this ). Italian Fascism's economic system is based in National Syndicalism ( a type of Corporatism ) and "productivism" ( the idea that more production raises all boats ). There's much more to Fascist theory than this, though....
@@A-Big-Beautiful-Wall Textbook. This is preciselly the type of answer that you must avoid and there are plenty of arguments against of these ideologies to derive yourself without speculations based on nonsense of observers. The reasoning behind my response is the very dry, propagandistic approach to these movements by people that do not read original material, including newspapers and documentation before and during that period (I do). I will strongly suggest you to read original resources and argument yourself againsts the arguments of the authors (just write on the side of the paragraphs you read, pro or contra). Once you understand the material this simplifies greatly your understanding and opinion.
Arguably this started with the reformations in the 1500s lead to liberalism in the 1700s neoliberalism of the 1900s and then whatever we have today where all that matters is the GDP and anything that upsets that is bad. It feels like we have reached the natural conclusion to the deconstructionist / individualist paradigm of liberalism.
Appreciate this vantage point. Some of the ideas you expressed are said on the middle to right, but usually not in a way that places them in the context of the history of thought, so it was refreshing to hear. Thank you.
You get the most flak when you’re over the target. Western culture is to be appreciated. It was we who freed the slaves, who conquer disease, and who fight against tyranny. I will never apologize for the noble culture from which I come.
Nice analysis! It's hard to argue against what you said, certainly everything normal is not fascist. Have you heard of the political movement based on the ideas of Lyndon LaRouche? The movement is anything but normal, I have a hard time classifying their beliefs. LaRouche began as a Marxist and was called a fascist, but in all fairness his economic plans were probably fascist. He was a Platonist that believed in a historical war between Platonists that believe in absolute truth and aristocratic Aristotelian sophists who believe truth is relative. This war plays out with Platonists seeking freedom through intellect and the pursuit of perfection while the Aristotelians seek to establish an oligarchy. He was very critical of the Straussians believing that they perverted Strauss & Plato's ideas of a ruling, found their way into the Bush administration through figures like Wolfowitz, Goldwin and others. The movement seems to have an elitist mentality. I am presenting their ideas in a simplistic manner, but if it's of any interest to you then it would be amazing to hear your thoughts on the ideas of Lyndon La Rouche and where you think the movement falls politically. thanks
Hear hear! I am VERY tired of trying to learn about the philosophy of thinkers like Heidegger and having to sit through the same "I'm perplexed and saddened by his political beliefs" and "He never apologized" preamble. I'm here for the thought, not the holier-than-thou disqualifiers. It is annoying and mundane at best, and I greatly appreciate your message in this video. Keep it up!
In general I agree, but I think its absolutely fair to raise an eyebrow at the use of the term 'degenarate' in certain contexts due to the Nazis suppression of so called 'degenerate' art. Of course a lot (perhaps all ) of post modern art is garbage but I don't think it should be the province of politics to decide what is and isn't 'art'. For context Im British and voting to leave the EU maked me a Nazi in certain quarters, so its clear that the use of 'reductio ad Hitlerum' is pervasive.
I wonder what the zeitgeist of Europe in 1880 felt like? I feel like the arguments are all quite interesting and the points get made here and there. I understand it, but damn I’m bored with it all. Even as I argue about it.
The zeitgeist then was that you see yourself as the 1% of the elite all the while you would be starving on the streets or working in the fields or factory 20h a day. You would be a starving peasant, not a CZcams philosopher in 1880.
He puts it well , I am scottish from my mother's side living in Holland, the english flag (not the british or scottish flag) is almost seen as a racist or national socialist flag , it is completely absurd
I’ve heard many different people explain the current state. I really liked what you reached for to explain & your metaphors. It does seem like too many people in power, are afraid to “get back on the horse” or even discuss “horses”. I understand that, they may pay a price for bringing up “horses”. But, aren’t we all paying a price for NOT, anyway? Things cannot last very long, in the upside down world.
Are you familiar with Canadian philosopher George Grant? He supposedly develops a form of anti-liberalism, though he was also apparently influenced by Simone Weil (a former communist - barf). Wondering if he is worth the time to explore, but not sure how he would position himself. I’m allergic to communism.
Fascism is fairly normal in a historical sense. It is pretty normal for a people under demographic threat to put their faith in a military leader and to imbue their people with a sense of their own posterity.
When you say ‘liberalism’, do you mean modern ‘progressivism’ or classical liberalism? Because the former is anti-liberal by the standards of the latter, and the latter ‘far right’ apparently by the judgement of the former.
I have the same beef with the use of the word 'liberal' as if there isn't enough political confusion already. "great thing the destruction of words". often it's not clear which they mean and they seem to be lumped together a mix of free market and the ideals of the american democratic party. Western politics: it's all 'liberalism' (apparently)
The collectivism of the right and that of the left are not diametrically opposed in their aims to improve the conditions of every member in society. However, the left appears to diverge from the right in its anti-volunteerism due to its militant taxation with centralized administration and planning, the inevitable unaccountability in the redistribution of wealth for it, and its promotion of personal irresponsibility for its technocratic policies to rule all societal interactions...I think we did have a name for this, oh yeah, it was fascism. If the right is guilty of anything, it is its laissez-faire attitude towards the plight of the people. We can see this in Japan as a reoccurring theme, the people are struck by some kind of economic catastrophe, the government does the absolute least it can for them individually while doubling down on its expectation for the people to be self-reliant, and then it hopes that it will all just work itself out eventually. Basically, the collectivism of wading through the quagmire individually to get to the other side as one team.
I do not start with the presumption the left wish to improve the conditions of society except for themselves. They are motivated by malice and resentment. They're the types to tell the Nazi's where Anne Frank's is hiding.
David Foster Wallace knew this in Infinite Jest. The only normal person was the fanciest coach. Nobody liked him. Yet everyone else was an insane hedonist or cultist.
My mothers family are non-Jews from the Netherlands who survived the European holocaust. Among them was a girl with Downs syndrome. They had to hide her in a wooden chest and bribe her to remain silent, or she wouldve been sent away to be deleted. They had to butcher and eat the family dog to survive. My 17 year old aunt was 5'11 and weighed 70 pounds at the end of the occupation. Some of the other stories the older folks told filled me with horror and disgust so much that I cant even mention them. For people to throw around the words "nazi" and "fascist" in todays world is absolutely infuriating to me. To call somebody those things as a casual insult when they obviously are not should be a hate crime as far as im concerned. Leftist activists will not be able to live in the world they are trying to create and a small, selfish part of me almost hopes theyre successful so I can watch their suffering and downfall. The inability of people to realize how good they have it in modern America guarantees that they will lose everything. Heed my words.
Short Story: A couple of Jews wrote the book "The Authoritarian Personality", financed and published by the American Jewish Committee. That's the basis for everything that followed. When are you finally going to confront the role your tribal affiliation plays in what's going on?
Woke left hates Jews now too, so I think it's ignorant to attack Mr.Millerman. Leo Strauss, Ayn Rand, Murray Rothbard, Ludwig Von Mises etc all Jewish and not leftist at all .
If you really want to upset a socialist, explain to them that socialism and fascism are completely intertwined and codependent. IE where you have the elements of socialism you will by necessity have the elements of fascism and vice versa. I realize that many people are so polarized and brainwashed around this that they may have a hard time understanding it. But if you spend the time thinking about it, you will realize that the argument is valid.
@@sebastianbaran9645 Socialism is the basis of communism so I don't believe that there is a need to mention it in the intertwining argument of socialism/fascism. But your mileage may vary on that.
@@sebastianbaran9645 I don't know the nuances of Hitler's beef with the Soviets (and I think he and Germany would have been much better off had they left the Soviets alone). When I make my intertwined argument I am operating with contemporary examples like we see with the American models, the healthcare "system" is the most easy example to make the argument around but it obviously applies to other areas as well.
@@kmg501he made a deal with the soviets before the war actually. I don’t think the austrian painter hated the soviets, he just hated the idea of communism. He should have kept the deal instead of attacking the soviets after the invasion of poland.
@@nguyenhieu6031Militarily Germany couldn't do that, though. The Soviets were amassing on their borders for an invastion going West into Europe. Germany attacked when it did because if it waited any longer, it was going to be on the receiving end. The non-aggression pact was designed to prevent hostilities for as long as possible, because they were inevitable, not because they were allied in some way. Allied states form alliances, not non-aggression pacts.
It's actually OK to call Heidegger a Nazi because he literally was one. He was a member of the party and favoured by Hitler. His philosophy has the same quality as Nat. Socialism of appealing to the deepest yearnings of young men and then twisting those desires. He is a profoundly irritating thinker. He seems profound, until you realize that he is plagiarizing St. Thomas A. up the wazoo and acting as if he is undercovering some deep secret that has been lost for centuries. It's only lost if you don't know where to look, but as a former seminarian, Heidegger knew exactly where to look.
I think you have missed the point of all this. The dividing line is around capitalism. So if you are a liberal who believes in the goodness of capitalism or even if you are a social democrat who believes in a hybrid model of capitalism and socialism, then you are flirting with the far-right fascists. You might not feel you are a fascist, but if you are upholding capitalist values - then you have been sliding into fascism.
In order for the alternative, the fringe to be an option, the foundation, the center must be accepted and stable. Placing the fringe in the center and pretending they are ‘equal’ destabilizes and collapses the structure. Deconstruction is dependent on structure.
I was called a fascist by a teacher as a freshman in high school….the first of many in those four years. I simply stated that a mother’s place was with her children….
Hahaha that's apocalyptic dynamite
Yes, protecting western tradition and fighting evil is fascism lol. The one true war is stirring again.
@thenunt The Fool never knows when he is being foolish.
And a father's place is to earn money and provide a living for the family and yet you are here on CZcams without a job and kids and commenting.
@@mabaker looks like I hit a nerve.
One thing that shocks me most with my predominantly left-wing friends is that if you defend someone's freedom of opinion you're automatically accused of having that same opinion - for them, freedom of speech only applies if you think what they think.
It’s funny, most people on the right hold this same viewpoint. The saying “I may not agree with what he says, but I’ll fight to the death for his right to say it”, is only said when someone on the right says something extreme. You’ll never hear a right wing talking head say this about anyone on the left when they say something.
One opinion for all is totalitarian. It's 1984 or 1933
Which is wild considering that is literally the only time freedom of speech means a damn. When people are saying things you vehemently disagree with.
Exactly. It's duplicitous authoritarian thinking. It's why the left used to be advocates of free speech in the past and why now they aren't. The thought leaders were only ever interested in their freedom until they had acquired or believed that they had acquired enough power to assert their own values. "When I am weaker than you, I ask for freedom because that is according to your principles; when I am stronger than you, I take away your freedom because that is according to my principles." God-Emperor Leto Atreides II in Frank Herbert's Children of Dune.
Yes. This is a recurring issue with quite a few on the left.
They use it as a weapon to silence their opponents.
"Silence their opponents." Page one of the fascist playbook.
projection (accusing those they hate of being exactly what they are) is their number one tactic - they use projection relentlessly
Get called a Fascist they get called a Communist or a Stallinist.
@@arthurzettel6618 difference being is those they call fascist aren't even remotely fascist whereas they really are communist
The Nuremberg Regime
I was called a racist fascist when a guy was literally caught by me stealing things from the store I worked at. He said he'd call a lawyer. Okay, I said, please sue us for being racist fascists for not letting you steal hundreds of dollars of merchandise.
Every normal person was "fascist" prior to WW2. Blood and soil, love of ones own, wariness of the other is how we are wired. Perfectly healthy.
"When I am Weaker Then You, I ask you for Freedom because that is according to your principles; when I am Stronger than you, I take away your Freedom Because that is according to my principles."
Politics in a nuttshell
I got called a Fascist by a woke male feminist because I supported Tulsi Gabbard! Now I'm reading Nietzsche and Evola so I guess I'm a "Super Fascist" ha, ha.
Lol a teacher in highschool confiscated my book(Nietzsche's On the Genealogy of Moral) and call my mom to tell her I was becoming a neo n...
Something about Nietzsche love of virtue, beauty and truth, I guess.
And watch some Southpark 😂
Überfascist
Noothing wrong with being Fascist.
I really thought skin heads and the KKK was a thing of the past. Then this older guy talked about how he spent most of his life helping the black community and he had decided to embrace racism after watching the protests.
My friend chose a surgeon on principles of diversity and inclusion. She died.
Those two sentences told quite a story.
@@treesurgeon2441 it obviously never happened....ffs....come on...
@@MrJanes-cl5sjEven if the comment's untrue, that very thing has and will continue to happen. Per chance even to you.
@@knighterrant7212 no it doesn't-its just a racist tag line...it represents nothing but this idiot's hatred
@@knighterrant7212 No it doesn't-this is just a racist tag line. This is just trash this guy picked up off a caller on the Steve Bannon show rofl.
In my university classroom my lecturer and the majority of the classroom said that I had internalised fascism for stating that a disabled person would have a more difficult life than a non-disabled person if all else is equal. People who hold normal values should forgo non-necessary education. We ought to study the classics in our own time while we take formal education in engineering, architecture, medicine, or a trade.
Fantastic video btw, you got a new subscriber for life 👍👍
"My principles are only those that, before the French Revolution, every well-born person considered sane and normal."- Julius Evola
Be radical, be absolute, have principles. Be that which that the bugoiuses call an extremists. Give yourself without counting or calculating. Never accept what they say are the facts of life, act in such a way that that life will never accept you. Never abandon the principle of struggle.
@@SocietalCollapseEnjoyer Struggle is key. It insures vitality at both a personal and societal level.
P.S. Nice pfp. Nieztchean Chad.
People only hold to their principles when it’s convenient. For those that have held on to those principles, they simply have not been tested.
Je suis d'accord avec cette citation. 🖐️🇨🇵
@@CMA418
You realize that millions of people throughout history have died for matters of principle, right?
Doesn't that qualify as the principles being "tested," and held onto anyway?
Im 50 and can remember when the things considered "fascist" or "far right extremist" were considered normal everyday political discourse debated in Parliaments and on TV. Opinions that once were and still are held by large swaths of the population then began to be treated as 'extremist' and socially unacceptable. It was a blatant attempt to recatogorise mainstream opinions as dangerous and abhorrent. I feel sorry for the younger generation who dont have the bigger picture and just uncriticaly accept these assumptions as fact. The dont know that the goal posts were shifted.
Enoch Powell was right all along.
Hillary Clinton and Barak Obama ran for presidency on a platform which was OPPOSED to legalized gay marriage.
This is how Mao did it. Branding and name calling. All for the good of the people of course
And they also don't know what their future holds. "Equity" doesn't exist anywhere in any society or even in the natural world
I mean, I'm 29 and I remember that too. It's crazy how fast this stuff changed.
Because they wore out "racist" and "sexist"?
I tell my kids, when we talk about post-modern liberal ideals, it's not a matter of hate or phobia, but a matter of not normalizing lifestyle that would destroy the civilization of we all converted.
We can all have the same religion, language, values etc. and society would function just fine. We can't all be gay, or on drugs, or antisocial, so don't normalize it.
Very well put. I tolerate some of it to an extent, we are a free country, but i most certainly strongly resist normalizing or even celebrating any of these dysfunctional ideas.
So, conform or be an outcast.
Not fascist but definitely intolerant.
Read what you want but don't inflict it on me.
You've got the causation the wrong way around. The culture is in a state of decay because the "meritocracy" has long since been destroyed. And so people resort to hedonism and despair. If you genuinely believe that the current system is based on meritocracy; then you are too brainwashed and part of the very decay. You are a Roman refusing to admit Rome has already fallen.
Yes, I have a 'which is better' way of looking at it, similar to what you do. Which is better - everyone doing marijuana or no one doing it? Everyone being promiscuous and no one? Everyone being gay or no one? What do the answers to such questions tell us about acceptable vs. not-acceptable behavior?
That's a fantastic point
Nazinflation.
If they call me fascist I know I’m doing something right🤷♂️
Nobody understands the definition of fascism, including you.
Well maybe it is...
@@itssteve6018 Fascism was formed as an ideology in 1917 after the last two great monarchies of Europe were ended by Communism following WWI. Without the Nationalist monarchies of Germany and Russia there was nothing to oppose the spread of Communism. A replacement for monarchism had to be found as it was ultimately to weak to fight the red terror. A new stronger nationalist ideology was necessary to oppose the commies and it was so strong that it took three empires, England, Russia and the USA to defeat it. Germany's economic recovery following the Wiemar Republic was the so swift and effective that modern nations should adopt the economic policies of post Wiemar Republic Germany.
@@itssteve6018Fascism always appears as reactionary movements opposed to communism and cultural nihilism.
@@mikeike9371 so being against genocide is cultural nihilism?
I've been called a fascist for being ex-Muslim and criticizing Islam publicly
Isn't Islam literally Fascism: the Religion
@@crayonchomper1180 indeed. Totalitarian to the core.
Forty years ago I was called a fascist by my political philosophy professor because I said I believed in an unseen numinous world. My communist uncle called me a fascist because I dared to rebuke him for stealing family property . .And recently I found I was being touted as a fascist because I played an excerpt from Julius Evola's "The Metaphysics of War " to a friend. Its obviously a badge of honour
Because it is meant to be an insult.
It is used by intellectually limited people who are unable to argue rationally with people who don't share their opinions.
It can be translated as "Errr ... I don't like what you say but can't explain why."
Micheal " Rediscover the virtues of Right wing anti-liberalism" Millerman
Attacking 'Liberalism' instead of 'Leftism' is a grievious error.
Anti rational, authoritarian Leftist extremism is the death of true Liberalism.
The Constitution is true Liberalism.
I'm an anarchist and I've been called a fascist
Indeed! I’m a responsible anarchist but I get called libertarian.
Ah, anarchy. That would last 20 minutes before the first warlord ascended to power.
@@mjt1517no rulers, not no rules
@@mjt1517 yeah and your the first guy to go to the guillotine
Anarchism is the most far right that you can get. Communism represents total governmental control and is the most far left you can get thus Anarchism the least government control that you can have has to be the most extreme right wing possible. All other ideologies fall some where between these two on the political spectrum.
I remember as I delved into trying to understand the Woke it basically got to the point that anything that promoted a healthy life was considered white supremacy.
My genealogy of ideas that shaped the modern world lead me to becoming Catholic. The Protestant Revolution and Enlightenment ideas probably started off like any other seed, looked good but we are now seeing the fruit these seeds bear.
I started to ask what are we trying to conserve as Conservative Christians in America? Well the Protestant mostly just seems to want to only go back to the 1950's and isn't as conservative as they think. They still want to preserve the tree. They think they can cut down all the fruit and the tree won't just eventually grow back the same disgusting fruit.
My take is all the good Right Wing thought is already in Catholicism but not all Right Wing thought is consistent with Catholicism and in my belief the Truth.
Yeah, I pretty well agree with your comments.
The conformity/ compliance and ovine complacence drives me crazy.
So interesting to read this.
Have been exploring a lot of ring wing ideas and have only in the last 2wks gotten to the point of finding how it crosses over with Catholicism.
Keen to explore Catholicism and would appreciate your suggestions where to start.
The truth is in pre-christian religion. Catholicism, and Christianity, Jesus and his own teachings, tend us toward degeneracy and cowardice and weakness.
Perhaps looking at it from more of a Platonic perspective might help: Rather than ask “What are we trying to conserve?”, the question is really, “What does it mean to live (or have) a good life?”
Then you might ask, what is ‘good’, and why should we apply it to life (or to ‘a life’ or to ‘our life’)?
Then you may ask, Are there things so good as to be required, even by use of force? And are there things so evil as to be rejected, even to the point of use of force?
Then, perhaps, you will begin to understand that the ‘common good’ is not the highest form of philosophy - which is, at its heart, fascism (and it’s kissing cousin, leftist progressive-socialist thought). Man is too broken as to be trusted to dictate and enforce the ‘common good’ either well or in common.
Nor is the ‘individual rights’ the highest form of philosophy - which is, at its heart, anarchist libertarianism. Man is too broken as to not love himself and hate his neighbor in equal measure.
And coming thus, you might find that what C.S. Lewis called the Tao neatly fits the bill of what you are looking for to ‘conserve’. And that is no rejoining of church and state (Roman Catholicism), or return to monarchal or socialist ‘benevolent dictatorship’. Instead, a ‘conservation’ that perhaps whatever *IS* wrong with the world is *ME* , might take hold and order the thoughts - and thus, lives - of men.
But it starts with asking the question ‘What is a ‘good life’?”
@@arctain1 Right, but how this applies to politics.
I like the line that classical republican ideals are being watered down and called fascism.
The Koch brothers destroyed the classical republican. Today the gop is half maga (fascist) and the rest are terrified of maga
Cowards and crazies.
The corporate Dems are right of center, essentially the modern conservative..
Interestingly, a republic can be fascist.
Not all citizens are guaranteed a vote.
Look it up
Theres nothing “fascist” about MAGA.
Yeah no, just because someone isnt a commie like Bernie Sanders, who spent his homeymoon in the Soviet Union and was best pals with commie lunatics in Nicaragua and Venezuela, does not make them “right of center”. You can still be in favor of a business friendly capitalist market economy and be left of center. Progressives and Democratic socialists are not left of center, they are left wing and far left.
Neo Liberalism is almost the opposite of Classical Liberalism.
Frankfurt School Cultural Marxism critical theory
There's no such thing as "neo" liberalism. This title was created by a german economist, Alexander Rustow whom realized the original big gov planned economic model proposed by socialists was a tremendous failure. So he wanted to create a bridge beetween classic liberalism and Keynesian policies. So basically the so called neo-cons like John Bolton, Bush, D.Chenney and most republicans. But not all the conservatives and righwingers are like that.
@@travelertuber9487 Liar. People use it and knows what it means, therefore it exists.
@@wilfred309 No, is the leftie turds that adore trowing it randomly when they ran out of money to keep up their "free equality for all" rethoric when inflation abstracts their useless exesive spending in welfare. THEN, usually they restore afterwards into a dirty crony state capitalism in order to survive, but without reaching an actual free market because they would end up being the hypocrates they are.
@@wilfred309 neo liberal cannot exist because classical liberalism and Keynesian policies cannot coexist and what "neo liberals" actually are tend to have too much of an association with genocide for them feel comfortable calling themselves that. You cannot have a free society micromanaged by the state.
If everything normal is Fascist, then Fascism is...
normal.
And why is the right called "far right" five times more often than the left is called "far left"? To get this statistic, I searched Google for the exact phrase "far right" and then for the exact phrase "far left". The phrase "far right" returned 151 million results whereas "far left" returned 30 million results -- and of course 151M is five times more than 30M.
That's also google which has not been a search engine since 2011, so it's going to rig the results like that. And the media has rigged it like that
imo that might be because leftists tend to use "far right" as a slur, whereas rightists tend to use "far left" just as a descriptor/identifier.
Liberalism is inherently right-wing which would mean they would need to distinguish themselves from the culturally conservative, whom they've labelled "far-right". + It's a smear tactic due to the inherent connotation with the Austrian painter.
Cultural conservatism goes against the very nature of a capitalist, liberal economy.
I would use the term, "far left" to describe a public figure for whom that term was accurate. I am not aware of any at the moment though. Not in the US anyway.
Because people who use the term “far right” think anything right of center, or right of their own political views are “fascist”. Ask any of them to explain to you the difference between what they consider to be “far right” versus “moderate right”, and all you get is stuttering and a deer in the headlights look.
I can disagree with certain elements of Plato, Nietzche, Heidegger, and any philosopher I have ever read. Some I agree more with than others. But everyone of them I have gained valuable insight.
I've heard of Plato but never heard of the other two. And I'm a college graduate!
@@Cindybin46user-nu4hg2dx6u you are a college graduate and have never heard of Nietzche and Heidegger?
@@Arnsteel634 I graduated in the 70s and never took classes that taught about them. Never took classes in high school about that, either.
@@Cindybin46user-nu4hg2dx6u I’m not saying you are stupid or anything like that. It just surprised me
Thank you Michael, for all your sacrifices in your unwavering pursuit of the good and the true.
I'm forever grateful to have stumbled on your interview concerning Dugin. Thank you!!!!
Fascism, by definition, is the integration and fusion of corporate power and The State, not a person with illiberal views we disagree with, but we are not supposed to realise that.
If you really examine it, how the DNC has governed since Obama is much closer to fascism than any other political force in America
_"Fascism, by definition, is the integration and fusion of corporate power and The State"_
No. That is the definition of Corporatocracy. Fascism was only about the State and its power.
Fascism is about state power.
Leftists like to define words so it suits their needs. What is a woman anyways?
No, fascism is the subsuming of ALL cultural entities within the state. That's corps, syndicates, unions, religions, clubs, etc.
All become organs of the state, hence the common names Fascism (bound together) and Corportism (like a body).
I'm Caucasian, wear all black (not Goth), and got a fresh undercut haircut last week. The Hasidic Jew across from me on the train called me this then proceeded to move and tell others in an effort to get me shamed or lynched or whathaveyou when I started laughing at him.
I live in Utah; I didn't know we even had Jews.
Ha, I live in Utah. I see lots of polygs but no Jews. That’s very odd.
@@velocirapture89
Indeed, lot of Muslims, too. This place is going to shit.
You were being socially lynched by the antiwhite mob for looking too similar to the archetype of the villain in the antiwhite narrative.
@@velocirapture89
I know, Salt Lake City's become a cesspool.
@Mr.Ambrose_Dyer_Armitage_Esq. Oh yeah, that explains it. I f****** hate SLC. I’m in SLC at a restaurant this very moment and can’t wait to GTFO. I live in sunny St George 🌞
The thing is -- Nazism is not politically right, but left.
The rights of individuals and freedom *from* government is politically Right; the dominance of and enslavement *to* government is politically Left. Fascism is authoritarian. To which political ideology is authoritarianism more easily aligned, those who want freedom *from* government, or those want enslavement *to* government? The link of fascism to the Right is due the endless repetition of lies by a Leftist revisionism via their incessant redefinition of words and rewriting of history.
As far as more government goes, George Orwell had the perfect description of what Leftist ideology brings in his novel "1984" -- "If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stomping on a human face forever."
Your assessment of humanity's attitude toward right wing anti liberalism and especially liberal's defensive attitude toward it is excessively generous.
this type of discourse is sorely lacking in our country today. thanks for posting this content.
This might be the best video you've done, you expressed so well many things I think about.
Great video. Sophistry gets in the way of seeking the Good. Humility is a necessity.
The best definition of "extreme Right wing" is anything which isn't wrong.
Literally seen a dude call nuclear families "fascist" like dude that's just how humans survived and existed for the last 600k years.
But, since they can only keep their power, if they destroy the family, so that the communist state can raise the children, like it was written in Brave New World, the institution of the family is their enemy Nr.1.
“How did we get into such an inverted world?” Its the Jews, bro. It’s called Sabbatean Frankism
Unpopular opinion: if you don't define Nazism and Fascism you name everything as them. Since I am one of the last adults on this planet, Nazism is the socialism only for the people of the same nation, fascism in the binding of syndicates and corporations under a unified national statehood. Both regard the entities external to the Nation as hostile to the nation. Both regard philosophy as necessity for statehood. Finally both regard jewry as danger to the Nation, but mostly because the luck of assimilation among some Issues that even to mention will mean that I can literally end up to jail. If the people cannot understand this paragraph mankind is already dead, since there is no understanding of the CONSEQUENCES of these statements. For me the situation has already settled and I watch society as is at the last stage of collapse, whether cultural or moral or even technological. Good day Gentlemen.
Renes Descartes would say to define the meaning of words, similar to what Confucian said.
Give pragmatic working definitions for the meaning of the word or words. I.e describe things properly.
But in order to give something its proper name, can use hegels method explained in the doctrine of being.
An apple 🍎 seed doesn't contain the blueprint to create a lemon 🍋 tree. The specific aroma, smell, colour, texture, i.e material.
I don't think you gave fascism it's proper name and used a reductionist way to and gave caricatured version of what you define it to be.
Well , Nazism is a third-way economically and derives from Volkisch ideology and German Romanticism and nationalism. Nazism is syncretic and integrates characteristics from of many ideologies, including classical liberalism , socialism and conservatism. From socialism, Nazism took a collectivist view of society and a rejection of capitalism ( in particular finance capital , but was friendly to productive capital - the "national producers" ). From classical liberalism, Nazism took the preservation of private property , profits , individual initiative and social Darwinism. From Conservatism , Nazism took the maintenance of gender roles , a rejection of "degeneracy" like homosexuality and prostitution and an organic view of society. It really wasn't socialism for the nation , it was a new unique ideology ( I just finished "Understanding Nazi Ideology" so I thought I'd comment on this ).
Italian Fascism's economic system is based in National Syndicalism ( a type of Corporatism ) and "productivism" ( the idea that more production raises all boats ). There's much more to Fascist theory than this, though....
@@avocado6779 Thanks avocado.
@@A-Big-Beautiful-Wall Textbook. This is preciselly the type of answer that you must avoid and there are plenty of arguments against of these ideologies to derive yourself without speculations based on nonsense of observers. The reasoning behind my response is the very dry, propagandistic approach to these movements by people that do not read original material, including newspapers and documentation before and during that period (I do). I will strongly suggest you to read original resources and argument yourself againsts the arguments of the authors (just write on the side of the paragraphs you read, pro or contra). Once you understand the material this simplifies greatly your understanding and opinion.
@@christopherneufelt8971 Why must he avoid it? It explains it very well.
Arguably this started with the reformations in the 1500s
lead to liberalism in the 1700s
neoliberalism of the 1900s
and then whatever we have today where all that matters is the GDP and anything that upsets that is bad.
It feels like we have reached the natural conclusion to the deconstructionist / individualist paradigm of liberalism.
Excellent! The 2024 update to George Orwell’s 1944 “What is Fascism?”
Appreciate this vantage point. Some of the ideas you expressed are said on the middle to right, but usually not in a way that places them in the context of the history of thought, so it was refreshing to hear. Thank you.
Also you have a new subscriber 👍
Thank you for that horse analogy, I will be borrowing that for future conversations on the topic.
been liking these shorter form videos.
Very succinct...
I like this short form format:
to make your point,
thankyou Michael. ❤
You get the most flak when you’re over the target. Western culture is to be appreciated. It was we who freed the slaves, who conquer disease, and who fight against tyranny. I will never apologize for the noble culture from which I come.
Glad to have found your channel. Thanks for the insights.
Nice analysis! It's hard to argue against what you said, certainly everything normal is not fascist.
Have you heard of the political movement based on the ideas of Lyndon LaRouche? The movement is anything but normal, I have a hard time classifying their beliefs. LaRouche began as a Marxist and was called a fascist, but in all fairness his economic plans were probably fascist. He was a Platonist that believed in a historical war between Platonists that believe in absolute truth and aristocratic Aristotelian sophists who believe truth is relative. This war plays out with Platonists seeking freedom through intellect and the pursuit of perfection while the Aristotelians seek to establish an oligarchy. He was very critical of the Straussians believing that they perverted Strauss & Plato's ideas of a ruling, found their way into the Bush administration through figures like Wolfowitz, Goldwin and others. The movement seems to have an elitist mentality. I am presenting their ideas in a simplistic manner, but if it's of any interest to you then it would be amazing to hear your thoughts on the ideas of Lyndon La Rouche and where you think the movement falls politically. thanks
Thank you, Michael! An excellent exhortation to seek wisdom, wherever it may be found.
Hear hear! I am VERY tired of trying to learn about the philosophy of thinkers like Heidegger and having to sit through the same "I'm perplexed and saddened by his political beliefs" and "He never apologized" preamble. I'm here for the thought, not the holier-than-thou disqualifiers. It is annoying and mundane at best, and I greatly appreciate your message in this video. Keep it up!
Amazing content in this channel. Very necessary information.
Excellent!
Traditionalism > modernity
Interesting concept. How are you defining these terms though?
Monarchy is traditional. Meaning you worship an arbitrary god king.
@@itssteve6018yeah but democracy goes back to Ancient Greece. I’m pretty sure they mean civilized society
I enjoy your dialogues.
Very good presentation, Michael. Thank you.
In general I agree, but I think its absolutely fair to raise an eyebrow at the use of the term 'degenarate' in certain contexts due to the Nazis suppression of so called 'degenerate' art. Of course a lot (perhaps all ) of post modern art is garbage but I don't think it should be the province of politics to decide what is and isn't 'art'. For context Im British and voting to leave the EU maked me a Nazi in certain quarters, so its clear that the use of 'reductio ad Hitlerum' is pervasive.
Great stuff, as always.
Read "Postmodernism and the Hyperliberal Fascist Reaction Formation" by John Stocking. It's your basic idea here but written 20 years ago.
Thank you for an excellent presentation. ❤
Excellent analysis Sir.
It earned you a New Subscriber.
Short answer, it's the latest buzzword to make people shut up and comply.
Orwell wrote a short essay on the topic. His conclusion was it's a buzzword.
Your best political musing video thus far!
So clear and to the point❤ juicy stuff!
Great. Thanks alot!!!!
Beautiful distillation of our current milieu ❤
Really enjoyed this presentation.
I've never heard of heidegger thanks! Just found your channel and i'm subscribing!
Carl Schmitt is widely read and engaged in the academy.
His stuff is really good.
You should talk with Pete Quinones
100%
Great. Haha I liked that "nauseous" to *nauseating".
Thanks Michael, telling folks about this channel. Blessings
Good talk. Also: Oakeshott! Scruton!
I wonder what the zeitgeist of Europe in 1880 felt like? I feel like the arguments are all quite interesting and the points get made here and there. I understand it, but damn I’m bored with it all. Even as I argue about it.
The zeitgeist then was that you see yourself as the 1% of the elite all the while you would be starving on the streets or working in the fields or factory 20h a day. You would be a starving peasant, not a CZcams philosopher in 1880.
He puts it well , I am scottish from my mother's side living in Holland,
the english flag (not the british or scottish flag) is almost seen as a racist or national socialist flag , it is completely absurd
Thanks. I enjoyed listening to you.
Man it’s hard to even comment on this stuff. I can’t say shit anymore, everything is wrong. I need to be a buffoon too excel apparently.
Yeah there's almost no point commenting anything these days, so much of what I write gets censored. Tired of 24 hour bans.
Answer: 3 letter word + an s on the end.
110 now
Michael is a J.
Not entirely. Lots of good Anglo and Germans too.
@@Humanophage fr?
Rhymes with Blues
This is brilliant
I’ve heard many different people explain the current state. I really liked what you reached for to explain & your metaphors. It does seem like too many people in power, are afraid to “get back on the horse” or even discuss “horses”. I understand that, they may pay a price for bringing up “horses”. But, aren’t we all paying a price for NOT, anyway?
Things cannot last very long, in the upside down world.
Well done, Lad.
I was called a racist because I didn't know who a black NBA player was. I don't watch ANY sports, I can't name any white players either.
Are you familiar with Canadian philosopher George Grant? He supposedly develops a form of anti-liberalism, though he was also apparently influenced by Simone Weil (a former communist - barf). Wondering if he is worth the time to explore, but not sure how he would position himself. I’m allergic to communism.
Hey, great video bro! I was unaware of you and this video simply popped up in my feed. Thankful for that.
Are you aware of Jason Reza Jorjani’s work?
Thank you. I've read his book Prometheanism.
Lots of things get called fascism. Fascism also gets called fascism
Okay.
Fascism is fairly normal in a historical sense. It is pretty normal for a people under demographic threat to put their faith in a military leader and to imbue their people with a sense of their own posterity.
Fascism is about goverment working in the interest of mega corporations.
You don't even know what Fascism is.
Syndicalism with the ideology of Actual Idealism.
@@dwwolf4636 your seeing a lot of trees but not the forest
Thanks ! I’ll watch more of your videos !
When you say ‘liberalism’, do you mean modern ‘progressivism’ or classical liberalism?
Because the former is anti-liberal by the standards of the latter, and the latter ‘far right’ apparently by the judgement of the former.
I'd call myself a monarchist, not a liberal.
I have the same beef with the use of the word 'liberal' as if there isn't enough political confusion already. "great thing the destruction of words". often it's not clear which they mean and they seem to be lumped together a mix of free market and the ideals of the american democratic party. Western politics: it's all 'liberalism' (apparently)
The collectivism of the right and that of the left are not diametrically opposed in their aims to improve the conditions of every member in society. However, the left appears to diverge from the right in its anti-volunteerism due to its militant taxation with centralized administration and planning, the inevitable unaccountability in the redistribution of wealth for it, and its promotion of personal irresponsibility for its technocratic policies to rule all societal interactions...I think we did have a name for this, oh yeah, it was fascism.
If the right is guilty of anything, it is its laissez-faire attitude towards the plight of the people. We can see this in Japan as a reoccurring theme, the people are struck by some kind of economic catastrophe, the government does the absolute least it can for them individually while doubling down on its expectation for the people to be self-reliant, and then it hopes that it will all just work itself out eventually. Basically, the collectivism of wading through the quagmire individually to get to the other side as one team.
I do not start with the presumption the left wish to improve the conditions of society except for themselves. They are motivated by malice and resentment. They're the types to tell the Nazi's where Anne Frank's is hiding.
Because the Communists won.
Nope. Because the LIBERALS won.
The irony of posting this under this video
David Foster Wallace knew this in Infinite Jest. The only normal person was the fanciest coach. Nobody liked him. Yet everyone else was an insane hedonist or cultist.
My mothers family are non-Jews from the Netherlands who survived the European holocaust. Among them was a girl with Downs syndrome. They had to hide her in a wooden chest and bribe her to remain silent, or she wouldve been sent away to be deleted. They had to butcher and eat the family dog to survive. My 17 year old aunt was 5'11 and weighed 70 pounds at the end of the occupation. Some of the other stories the older folks told filled me with horror and disgust so much that I cant even mention them. For people to throw around the words "nazi" and "fascist" in todays world is absolutely infuriating to me. To call somebody those things as a casual insult when they obviously are not should be a hate crime as far as im concerned. Leftist activists will not be able to live in the world they are trying to create and a small, selfish part of me almost hopes theyre successful so I can watch their suffering and downfall. The inability of people to realize how good they have it in modern America guarantees that they will lose everything. Heed my words.
Short Story: A couple of Jews wrote the book "The Authoritarian Personality", financed and published by the American Jewish Committee. That's the basis for everything that followed.
When are you finally going to confront the role your tribal affiliation plays in what's going on?
great, here comes the antisemites right on cue
Woke left hates Jews now too, so I think it's ignorant to attack Mr.Millerman. Leo Strauss, Ayn Rand, Murray Rothbard, Ludwig Von Mises etc all Jewish and not leftist at all .
Eh, if he has the same opinion as mine, i don’t mind if he’s jewish. Beside, maybe you should suggest him to take a look at the book?
If you really want to upset a socialist, explain to them that socialism and fascism are completely intertwined and codependent. IE where you have the elements of socialism you will by necessity have the elements of fascism and vice versa. I realize that many people are so polarized and brainwashed around this that they may have a hard time understanding it. But if you spend the time thinking about it, you will realize that the argument is valid.
@@sebastianbaran9645 Socialism is the basis of communism so I don't believe that there is a need to mention it in the intertwining argument of socialism/fascism. But your mileage may vary on that.
@@sebastianbaran9645 I don't know the nuances of Hitler's beef with the Soviets (and I think he and Germany would have been much better off had they left the Soviets alone).
When I make my intertwined argument I am operating with contemporary examples like we see with the American models, the healthcare "system" is the most easy example to make the argument around but it obviously applies to other areas as well.
@@kmg501he made a deal with the soviets before the war actually. I don’t think the austrian painter hated the soviets, he just hated the idea of communism. He should have kept the deal instead of attacking the soviets after the invasion of poland.
@@nguyenhieu6031Militarily Germany couldn't do that, though. The Soviets were amassing on their borders for an invastion going West into Europe. Germany attacked when it did because if it waited any longer, it was going to be on the receiving end.
The non-aggression pact was designed to prevent hostilities for as long as possible, because they were inevitable, not because they were allied in some way. Allied states form alliances, not non-aggression pacts.
@@sebastianbaran9645 Take this as food for thought; 'Those closest to how you think, can often be the ones you disagree with the most'
It's actually OK to call Heidegger a Nazi because he literally was one. He was a member of the party and favoured by Hitler. His philosophy has the same quality as Nat. Socialism of appealing to the deepest yearnings of young men and then twisting those desires. He is a profoundly irritating thinker. He seems profound, until you realize that he is plagiarizing St. Thomas A. up the wazoo and acting as if he is undercovering some deep secret that has been lost for centuries. It's only lost if you don't know where to look, but as a former seminarian, Heidegger knew exactly where to look.
I wouldnt just say it applies to being called Fascist it applies to being called Racist, Sexist, & all the phobias peoplevcan think of aswell
the austrian painter was right
I think you have missed the point of all this. The dividing line is around capitalism. So if you are a liberal who believes in the goodness of capitalism or even if you are a social democrat who believes in a hybrid model of capitalism and socialism, then you are flirting with the far-right fascists. You might not feel you are a fascist, but if you are upholding capitalist values - then you have been sliding into fascism.
In order for the alternative, the fringe to be an option, the foundation, the center must be accepted and stable. Placing the fringe in the center and pretending they are ‘equal’ destabilizes and collapses the structure. Deconstruction is dependent on structure.
Excellent rhetoric. Perfect for sharing with select friends.
Because you accept fascism as normal.