@@stoicbartenderWhat has Doffy done recently to suddenly shoot him to those 1st yonko commander level? He's been locked up and hasn't shown to of gotten any stronger... Crocodile is also just a mystery to how strong he is along with Boa, literally the recent Boa feats were in this video... You can speculate they are stronger but they haven't shown it yet. The only one I can fully agree with is Law who has shown way better feats
@@Warlord-dc5un bruhhh if law got a power up then obviously doflamingo did ,like why are u talking like that as if like doflamingo did not beat 2 warlords, and law is one of them, easily slice a leg off oars jr (who defeated a bunch of vice Admiral giants), Dog Wash smoker and also easily controlling jozu like wth hahha in the war it was heavily portrayed that doffy is stronger than crocodile
It's disingenuous to just say that Crocodile is only relative to post alabasta luffy, as he performed extremely well in the war of the best, something that a just post alabasta luffy couldn't have done whatsoever.
That just means he got stronger lol, he went thru hell in impel down and told luffy in alabasta that he is constantly trying to improve his own abilities. Marineford croc is not him in his warlord state. @@wildera7456
@@thegooneygamerboy5302not only because of his fruit though it did give him a significant advantage. If you gave the darkness fruit to caribou for example he still wouldn't stand a chance against ace. BB is impressive that was the entire reason for shanks going out of his way to warn WB to call of ace, because even before he got the fruit he was a threat.
Hating BB is fair he is a dastardly kiniving SOB and that's why I also like him he's a great antagonist. Now with that said I think that fact some people overlook and hence why they crap on him in ways that shouldn't be he isn't a character to underestimate and though I don't expect him to be the final boss he is absolutely obviously one of the final bosses with how many years he's been built up as one of luffy's greatest enemies. Perhaps the Gorosei and Akainu will be the true final bosses and seems more likely but with that said he's still absolutely at least the 3rd last obstacle for Luffy to overcome meaning he has to be one of the strongest characters in the series.
One thing people seem to forget is that after the introduction of Haki everyone had been given a natural buff to make up for the power gap. Ace, Smoker, Jinbe and Yamato probably were relative in strength at one point, Smoker just got unlucky against Law, Jinbe had to fight his way out of WC and fought Who Who to get where he is now and Yamato has been training her whole life to free Wano from Kaido. If Ace was still alive he'd probably be on Yamato's level maybe higher.
@@MihawkTopOne time has passed since the Yamato flashback she was probably a lot weaker when she fought Ace. Smoker probably is relative to that version of Ace and Yamato people like to shit on Smoker because he lost to Law, but forget how broken Law is.
@@jpronan8757 that's the same with ace tho he also grew stronger as we know in the light novel, until luffy learned conquerors coding ace was stronger then him
Hancock's devil fruit can petrify Luffy as well - No one is immune to it - It can petrify any and everything even sea prism stone; the very essence of the sea. You don't need to be emotionally attached for her powers to work. Only the beam has that specific requirement yet it petrified sea prism stone handcuffs but every other move she has does not need any emotional attachment.
This is unrelated but I feel like Buggy would be immune to Boa's powers not because he doesn't find her attractive but because he'd just be so overwhelmed with fear he wouldn't think about anything else. Then that'll lead to another misunderstanding making people in the verse think Buggy can stand up against boa
Even since Ace vs Doflamingo video there was that mistake in calcing Doflamingo, where people were saying that G4 Luffy outpassed Doflamingo which completly wrong, since Doflamingo wasn't stabalized after Law's gamma knife and if we refere to anime which has the same canonic power as Ace novel according to points presented in this video the only reason why Doflamingo missed that Leo Bazooka feat which author presented as "Luffy is outpassing Doflamingo" is because he got distracted by pain as side effect of gamma knife which made Doflamigo lose concentration (just like Author seperated old WB who was blitzed by no name marines during his heartattack and stabalized WB, the same can be told about Doflamingo), in his regular state he could match G4 in speed and even pushed Luffy back. But what makes it espesially biased is that talking about Ace confronting admirals he mentions Ace's bad shape after all, even though Ace never received any damage comparable to the amount of damage Doflamingo took before facing G4. So Ace's inability to stand to Akainu and ability to nullify Kuzan's ice due to elemental advantage just don't scale Ace somehow higher than Doflamingo in terms of power, especially seeing how Doflamingo broke the same ice of Aokiji without any elemental advantage
Ok to be fair, when people say Weevil as as “strong” as whitebeard. I interpret it as PHYSICAL strength. He wouldn’t have the haki or a devil fruit as strong as the gura gura no mi. He is also kinda stupid so I think he would lose for sure
so if Ace fire Fist Ace if he never died he would have become the strongest most powerful Pirate surpassing All the four emperors including his father having all three types of advanced haki even devil fruit Awakening maybe Sabo will fill in that Gap fill in those shoes also Imo when do you think you can make more what if scenarios like what if GARP became an admiral what if Gold Roger never died and so many more
There's a lot of things that point to the Ace novel being canon, in the very least in how it handles powerscaling: - the main series also has Jinbe and Ace tying and as you mentioned, it's stated that Ace basically has unparalleled growth which means Marineford Ace>>>> Marineford Jinbe. - The manga does have Ace fighting equally with cuffed Yamato. While we don't have a direct scale comparing Yamato from several years ago to now, it still winds up being impressive considering cuffed Yamato could temporarily one tap transformed Ulti. - Ace being invited to join the warlords happened in both manga and novel. - As mentioned, despite being weakened and tortured Ace could temporarily stalemate Aokiji's ice. It's also stated that Akainu overpowered Ace because of fruit superiority, not haki superiority. While this doesn't mean Ace is admiral level or has armament comparable to Akainu, it does lend credibility that fruit superiority was the biggest factor in Akainu overpowering him. - Ace vs Blackbeard in the manga was stated by to be a fight where not even the BB Pirates knew who would be victorious. This same BB would go on to take several attacks from Marineford WB (similar attacks damaged Akainu) and not die. Again, not saying that Ace= Admirals but there is enough evidence to suggest that the Ace Novel's powerscaling is legit and that both novel and manga put Ace in the upper tier of commanders.
Putting BB relative to Akainu based on that is kinda eh,imo. Akainu took the strongest attack WB could muster up and didn't even get knocked up. Even the injury wasn't all that. He came back up after falling through the ice crack like nothing happened. I'm not saying BB might be that lvl but that kinda of bad comparison. The only thing is he has never shown these feats in the manga in both his fights where he was at disadvantage. Especially the Akainu fight. Like why would u try to punch him without haki. Even if he did use haki, it was pretty wack. U could bring the argument that Ace was not at full health at that point hence have weaker haki, but the manga doesn't really depic the picture of Ace being that strong.
I’m confused on one inconsistency with this video. Who you comparing ace to? Is it the most recent Version of Law, Crocodile, Jimbei? Or are you comparing them to Their strenght as a warlord?
Ace was strong, blackbeard was stronger, and Magellan was just another level. Its really not that hard to understand nor is it lazy writing. Also im sure Ace is just saying hes even with smoker simply bc they are both logia not that they are equal in strength
What doesn't add up about ace vs wb is that in marineford a sick and on the verge of death version of that wb was soloing bb, while ace totally lost against blackbeard.
also do you believe when Sabo gets three types of advanced haki followed by devil fruit Awakening he'll be even much more stronger and Powerful than zoro sanji king katakuri marco and Ace and others
If people think his showings in the pre time skip isn't consistent to the novels and use it as an argument against the novels then I have to say it's a very weak flimsy one. Pre time-skip almost had every relatively strong character look weaker because of the new concept of haki, which then add to force older characters that should've never lost to Luffy gain increase of feats/showings. Ace had no time to actually show the sort of flashy feats of haki or power, he detured a fight against Smoker so obviously you ain't going to just through out the heavy stuff in that fight. The whole bb fight isn't an anti feat it just upscales bb and we didn't see most of the fight, then being able to clash with admirals when fatigued is only a massive W for him. We see how he does similar credible feats as the other WB Yonko commanders like Jozu and Marco do whilst they're healthy. I'm not saying Ace is above Marco but people were hyping Marcos feats against his respective admiral fight so why should Ace when in a worse state to fight not be given the same credibility? Pre time-skip has always proven trouble for characters that were beaten earlier or simply introduced earlier... Nothing in the series discredits the novels feats
Imo he had potentiall but he never would've achieved his full potential since he was under WB. He wouldn't go after other Yonko commanders or warlords or admirals. Basically stronger opponents and the only way to really get stronger is fight and fight.
Another good metric is to ask "Could Yamato beat xyz" Yamato and Ace fought to a standstill, and Yamato went head to head against Kaido for a hot minute. Ace ain't weak, he was a victim to the pre-time skip nerf
Ace novel is no doubt canon, specially with the recent chapter when ace revealed to be offered warlord posistion by wg! We can't use certain things in ace novel as canon then ignored other info on it! Everything on it is canon since its ace pov through his journey!
1:22 technically ALL vice admirals not named Garp are extremely weak for their rank. Think about it this way. If admirals are almost as strong as yonko and even the strongest yonko commanders are generally ALOT weaker than Yonko/Admiral level. And even average Yonko commanders can at least fight on par with, if not outright beat characters like Doflamingo who in turn was able to take down smoker pretty easily(Smoker is arguable one of the stronger vice admirals as he has both haki and a Logia devil fruit). A vice admiral is only 1 rank below the admirals, yet most of them are borderline fodder at this point in the story. If a yonko was 100, an admiral for be 95, top yonko commanders would be 80, vice admirals(other than Garp) would be 40-50(at best)
They would disrespect him like never. Law would play with his body like legos, Hancock would essentially chewing him up and spit him on the ground, Jinbe would really be a tie, Crocodile would definitely pull out the w
@@nelsonboubou7006 ace would burn croco boy till he turned to glass, ace could try to work around hancock turning him into stone and jinbe would be a tie or ace might win this time since he's gotten stronger, and law is debatable but it wouldn't be an easy win for law 100%
The Ace novel is just too inconsistent with the main timeline Ace seems WAY stronger in their vs his actual appearances in the manga against Smoker, WB, Jimbei, Blackbeard, and a weaker Yamato
Crocodile current time is on a WHOLE other level than the one we compared to Ace Crocodile is likely more powerful than Katakuri or atleast equal Even Mihawk is willing to listen to Crocodiles opinions and Mihawk dont listen to weaklings Also Boas fruit wont work on anyone in the verse, Luffy is one of the 2 so far momonga or whatever that marines name was resist her power so chances are all Admirals, Yonko, and 2nd in commands can resist her power
He is not BB lvl. BB can be always fights in way to get his opponent overconfident. He gets his ass beat by everybody he fights at first but he always comes out on top. Also if u're caught up with the manga, u should know he is not admiral lvl. He will give a good fight but against especially the og admiral trio, he ain't beating either of them.
Ace was able to clash with an admiral at marineford that alone is enough to prove that most warlords would lose against ace and then u see him keep up with yamato also ace would destroy doflamingo
Ace couldnt beat mihawk and if he cant beat mihawk he DEF cant beat buggy since buggy was beating mihawk during marineford until mihawk turned his greatest weapon against him and kumas devil fruit is just way OP and broken.
You make a mistake while explaining canon as you conflate it with continuity. This is a very common mistake, so it isn't a big deal. Basically when it comes to feats, canon just describes what can happen. Continuity describes what actually happens. In other words, something that is canonical isn't necessarily continuous, but something continuous must be canon. And non-canon things not only didn't happen, but can't happen.
I don't really take novel feat serious it wasn't written by Oda. Sure Oda supervised it. He just gave the guy that wrote it the important plot points to go through. If u give me the plot points, I can write up a story and Buff the powerscaling to sky too.
I’m confused on one inconsistency with this video. Who you comparing ace to? Is it the most recent Version of Law, Crocodile, Jimbei? Or are you comparing them to Their strenght as a warlord?
Every warlord is in their strongest form as a warlord, for example law is in his dressrosa state.
I feel like current crocodile, doffy, law and boa would dog walk ace but in the warlord forms yeah ace slams
@@stoicbartenderWhat has Doffy done recently to suddenly shoot him to those 1st yonko commander level?
He's been locked up and hasn't shown to of gotten any stronger...
Crocodile is also just a mystery to how strong he is along with Boa, literally the recent Boa feats were in this video...
You can speculate they are stronger but they haven't shown it yet.
The only one I can fully agree with is Law who has shown way better feats
@@Warlord-dc5un bruhhh if law got a power up then obviously doflamingo did ,like why are u talking like that as if like doflamingo did not beat 2 warlords, and law is one of them, easily slice a leg off oars jr (who defeated a bunch of vice Admiral giants), Dog Wash smoker and also easily controlling jozu like wth hahha in the war it was heavily portrayed that doffy is stronger than crocodile
It's disingenuous to just say that Crocodile is only relative to post alabasta luffy, as he performed extremely well in the war of the best, something that a just post alabasta luffy couldn't have done whatsoever.
That just means he got stronger lol, he went thru hell in impel down and told luffy in alabasta that he is constantly trying to improve his own abilities. Marineford croc is not him in his warlord state. @@wildera7456
For me this just makes bb more impressive
He won only because of his darkness fruit
@@thegooneygamerboy5302not only because of his fruit though it did give him a significant advantage. If you gave the darkness fruit to caribou for example he still wouldn't stand a chance against ace. BB is impressive that was the entire reason for shanks going out of his way to warn WB to call of ace, because even before he got the fruit he was a threat.
@@LuciusFox24 I’m still salty but fair enough
More like because it's an easy matchup for bb
Hating BB is fair he is a dastardly kiniving SOB and that's why I also like him he's a great antagonist. Now with that said I think that fact some people overlook and hence why they crap on him in ways that shouldn't be he isn't a character to underestimate and though I don't expect him to be the final boss he is absolutely obviously one of the final bosses with how many years he's been built up as one of luffy's greatest enemies. Perhaps the Gorosei and Akainu will be the true final bosses and seems more likely but with that said he's still absolutely at least the 3rd last obstacle for Luffy to overcome meaning he has to be one of the strongest characters in the series.
One thing people seem to forget is that after the introduction of Haki everyone had been given a natural buff to make up for the power gap.
Ace, Smoker, Jinbe and Yamato probably were relative in strength at one point, Smoker just got unlucky against Law, Jinbe had to fight his way out of WC and fought Who Who to get where he is now and Yamato has been training her whole life to free Wano from Kaido.
If Ace was still alive he'd probably be on Yamato's level maybe higher.
Smoker definitely was nowhere near Ace or Yamato's level. Stop that.
@@MihawkTopOne time has passed since the Yamato flashback she was probably a lot weaker when she fought Ace.
Smoker probably is relative to that version of Ace and Yamato people like to shit on Smoker because he lost to Law, but forget how broken Law is.
@@jpronan8757 that's the same with ace tho he also grew stronger as we know in the light novel, until luffy learned conquerors coding ace was stronger then him
@@harryschwartz5957 many people including myself haven't read the light novel so if you go by the source material that's all we have to work with.
@@harryschwartz5957That's not even remotely true
Hancock's devil fruit can petrify Luffy as well - No one is immune to it - It can petrify any and everything even sea prism stone; the very essence of the sea. You don't need to be emotionally attached for her powers to work. Only the beam has that specific requirement yet it petrified sea prism stone handcuffs but every other move she has does not need any emotional attachment.
Her arrows can freeze cannonballs in air which
If her devil fruit could affect Luffy it would've been used in a way that could affect him long before he could do anything meaningful in Amazon Lilly
@@meggy1162Did you not read or?
@meggy1162 the reason luffy was captured was because of Boa attack
This was surprisingly detailed. Great job
This is unrelated but I feel like Buggy would be immune to Boa's powers not because he doesn't find her attractive but because he'd just be so overwhelmed with fear he wouldn't think about anything else. Then that'll lead to another misunderstanding making people in the verse think Buggy can stand up against boa
That’s funny and I hope we see that 🤣
Even since Ace vs Doflamingo video there was that mistake in calcing Doflamingo, where people were saying that G4 Luffy outpassed Doflamingo which completly wrong, since Doflamingo wasn't stabalized after Law's gamma knife and if we refere to anime which has the same canonic power as Ace novel according to points presented in this video the only reason why Doflamingo missed that Leo Bazooka feat which author presented as "Luffy is outpassing Doflamingo" is because he got distracted by pain as side effect of gamma knife which made Doflamigo lose concentration (just like Author seperated old WB who was blitzed by no name marines during his heartattack and stabalized WB, the same can be told about Doflamingo), in his regular state he could match G4 in speed and even pushed Luffy back.
But what makes it espesially biased is that talking about Ace confronting admirals he mentions Ace's bad shape after all, even though Ace never received any damage comparable to the amount of damage Doflamingo took before facing G4. So Ace's inability to stand to Akainu and ability to nullify Kuzan's ice due to elemental advantage just don't scale Ace somehow higher than Doflamingo in terms of power, especially seeing how Doflamingo broke the same ice of Aokiji without any elemental advantage
Ace feats are underrated
Ok to be fair, when people say Weevil as as “strong” as whitebeard. I interpret it as PHYSICAL strength. He wouldn’t have the haki or a devil fruit as strong as the gura gura no mi. He is also kinda stupid so I think he would lose for sure
Ace (On the brink of death) is keeping pace with and matching Admirals
He's around Marco's level, if not higher
Yh
if not higher is kinda crazy
He didn't keep any pace. All he did was clash with two. Keeping pace is what Jozu and Marco did.
@@MihawkTopOnethis is why I rarely debate with OP fans because they always just make shit up.
He's kinda held back by his allergy to donuts, though.
7:00, that shit was personal, and im all here for it 😂😂
so if Ace fire Fist Ace if he never died he would have become the strongest most powerful Pirate surpassing All the four emperors including his father having all three types of advanced haki even devil fruit Awakening maybe Sabo will fill in that Gap fill in those shoes also Imo when do you think you can make more what if scenarios like what if GARP became an admiral what if Gold Roger never died and so many more
It makes sense y people thought he'd be the next pirate king
his potential was f**King big af
@@wojskowy1182 it was not he could’ve been would’ve been everything OK and the story
There's a lot of things that point to the Ace novel being canon, in the very least in how it handles powerscaling:
- the main series also has Jinbe and Ace tying and as you mentioned, it's stated that Ace basically has unparalleled growth which means Marineford Ace>>>> Marineford Jinbe.
- The manga does have Ace fighting equally with cuffed Yamato. While we don't have a direct scale comparing Yamato from several years ago to now, it still winds up being impressive considering cuffed Yamato could temporarily one tap transformed Ulti.
- Ace being invited to join the warlords happened in both manga and novel.
- As mentioned, despite being weakened and tortured Ace could temporarily stalemate Aokiji's ice. It's also stated that Akainu overpowered Ace because of fruit superiority, not haki superiority. While this doesn't mean Ace is admiral level or has armament comparable to Akainu, it does lend credibility that fruit superiority was the biggest factor in Akainu overpowering him.
- Ace vs Blackbeard in the manga was stated by to be a fight where not even the BB Pirates knew who would be victorious. This same BB would go on to take several attacks from Marineford WB (similar attacks damaged Akainu) and not die. Again, not saying that Ace= Admirals but there is enough evidence to suggest that the Ace Novel's powerscaling is legit and that both novel and manga put Ace in the upper tier of commanders.
Putting BB relative to Akainu based on that is kinda eh,imo. Akainu took the strongest attack WB could muster up and didn't even get knocked up. Even the injury wasn't all that. He came back up after falling through the ice crack like nothing happened. I'm not saying BB might be that lvl but that kinda of bad comparison. The only thing is he has never shown these feats in the manga in both his fights where he was at disadvantage. Especially the Akainu fight. Like why would u try to punch him without haki. Even if he did use haki, it was pretty wack. U could bring the argument that Ace was not at full health at that point hence have weaker haki, but the manga doesn't really depic the picture of Ace being that strong.
@@rand12389 bb takes 2x dmg after eating darkness fruit, so it scales up to his durability feats, which then scales up ace
@@alterdrhexhe doesn't take 2x damage he takes 2x pain which is more of an endurance feat
I’m confused on one inconsistency with this video.
Who you comparing ace to?
Is it the most recent Version of Law, Crocodile, Jimbei? Or are you comparing them to Their strenght as a warlord?
first
but VERY GOOD VID
The moment bro said that ace beats boa,i knew this video was done for
Ace was strong, blackbeard was stronger, and Magellan was just another level. Its really not that hard to understand nor is it lazy writing. Also im sure Ace is just saying hes even with smoker simply bc they are both logia not that they are equal in strength
Haki also effects devil fruit effects, so even if crocodile could hit ace his haki would have to be stronger for his devil fruit effects to work
As an gigant ace fan i see this as a w
do mahoraga vs goku
What doesn't add up about ace vs wb is that in marineford a sick and on the verge of death version of that wb was soloing bb, while ace totally lost against blackbeard.
also do you believe when Sabo gets three types of advanced haki followed by devil fruit Awakening he'll be even much more stronger and Powerful than zoro sanji king katakuri marco and Ace and others
Gecko Moria's shadow-shadow fruit has the same potential as Big Mom's soul-soul fruit. They are extremely similar and unique. .
If people think his showings in the pre time skip isn't consistent to the novels and use it as an argument against the novels then I have to say it's a very weak flimsy one.
Pre time-skip almost had every relatively strong character look weaker because of the new concept of haki, which then add to force older characters that should've never lost to Luffy gain increase of feats/showings.
Ace had no time to actually show the sort of flashy feats of haki or power, he detured a fight against Smoker so obviously you ain't going to just through out the heavy stuff in that fight. The whole bb fight isn't an anti feat it just upscales bb and we didn't see most of the fight, then being able to clash with admirals when fatigued is only a massive W for him.
We see how he does similar credible feats as the other WB Yonko commanders like Jozu and Marco do whilst they're healthy.
I'm not saying Ace is above Marco but people were hyping Marcos feats against his respective admiral fight so why should Ace when in a worse state to fight not be given the same credibility?
Pre time-skip has always proven trouble for characters that were beaten earlier or simply introduced earlier...
Nothing in the series discredits the novels feats
I guess you never read ONE PIECE.
Ace is also fire so he won’t produce shadows lol so win for him no problem.
Asking for jozu vs queen vid
Imo he had potentiall but he never would've achieved his full potential since he was under WB. He wouldn't go after other Yonko commanders or warlords or admirals. Basically stronger opponents and the only way to really get stronger is fight and fight.
If Ruyma got an adaptation then Ace might get too😊
how would kizaru know he wasn't old enough to see it
Wait why does the ace novel look like it has the same art style as dr stone😅
Ace is nice.
Bro sending shots and Jinbe and Kuma, two of the nicest guys in OP for their luxurious weight. What'd those absolute units ever do to you??😂😂
Bro is speaking fax🗣🗣🗣
Another good metric is to ask "Could Yamato beat xyz" Yamato and Ace fought to a standstill, and Yamato went head to head against Kaido for a hot minute. Ace ain't weak, he was a victim to the pre-time skip nerf
Ace was relative to sea stone cuffed base yamato which is way weaker than the yamato who fought kaido ace was never on yamato's level
@@RimuruTempest-wl1ru I don't think there was anything indicating they were seastone, only that they were explosive
When you heat up sand with fire it will become glass and one drop of cold water.. boom it will shatter, Rip crocodile
Law needed awekened attacks to much regular quakes while Ace as a rookie is matching them with basic attacks.
Kuma smashes he is scaled above current sanji.
😂😂😂
I don’t see ace beating doglamingo or kuma kumas power negates a his logia ability and doflamingo haki and DF mastery would make him a very tough out
Ace novel is no doubt canon, specially with the recent chapter when ace revealed to be offered warlord posistion by wg! We can't use certain things in ace novel as canon then ignored other info on it! Everything on it is canon since its ace pov through his journey!
1:22 technically ALL vice admirals not named Garp are extremely weak for their rank. Think about it this way. If admirals are almost as strong as yonko and even the strongest yonko commanders are generally ALOT weaker than Yonko/Admiral level. And even average Yonko commanders can at least fight on par with, if not outright beat characters like Doflamingo who in turn was able to take down smoker pretty easily(Smoker is arguable one of the stronger vice admirals as he has both haki and a Logia devil fruit). A vice admiral is only 1 rank below the admirals, yet most of them are borderline fodder at this point in the story. If a yonko was 100, an admiral for be 95, top yonko commanders would be 80, vice admirals(other than Garp) would be 40-50(at best)
never cook again
Day 32 of asking for jozu vs queen vid
Day 30 of asking for jozu vs queen vid
Ace would just turn crocodile into glass by burning him
What if you take current Law, Jimbei, Boa and Crocodile
IMO currently;
Law>Ace mid-high
Ace> Jinbe high
Croc>Ace mid-high
Boa>Ace mid
They would disrespect him like never. Law would play with his body like legos, Hancock would essentially chewing him up and spit him on the ground, Jinbe would really be a tie, Crocodile would definitely pull out the w
Law the only one that wins
@@nelsonboubou7006 ace would burn croco boy till he turned to glass, ace could try to work around hancock turning him into stone and jinbe would be a tie or ace might win this time since he's gotten stronger, and law is debatable but it wouldn't be an easy win for law 100%
@alterdrhex law dog walks pretimeskip bb victim
Get him past Jinbei first.
The Ace novel is just too inconsistent with the main timeline Ace seems WAY stronger in their vs his actual appearances in the manga against Smoker, WB, Jimbei, Blackbeard, and a weaker Yamato
Boa hancock true haki power isn't revealed
I'm sure that boa hancock is really strong because she was the one
Who was trained by rayleigh
This thumbnail kinda makes me wondor something if crocodile was probrably going to use the pluton to kill whitebeard why didnt ace helf defeat him
law against doflamingo was mentally nerfed
That boy lowkey got clapped quit playing boy
I'm pretty sure ace can melt sand
Crocodile current time is on a WHOLE other level than the one we compared to Ace
Crocodile is likely more powerful than Katakuri or atleast equal
Even Mihawk is willing to listen to Crocodiles opinions and Mihawk dont listen to weaklings
Also Boas fruit wont work on anyone in the verse, Luffy is one of the 2 so far momonga or whatever that marines name was resist her power so chances are all Admirals, Yonko, and 2nd in commands can resist her power
law slams Ace so bad, its not even FUNNY
Literally not fair
Law fucking is admiral level against current yonk blackbeard
He is not BB lvl. BB can be always fights in way to get his opponent overconfident. He gets his ass beat by everybody he fights at first but he always comes out on top. Also if u're caught up with the manga, u should know he is not admiral lvl. He will give a good fight but against especially the og admiral trio, he ain't beating either of them.
@@rand12389 Cry Magellan fucked him up after he beat ace.
Ace was able to clash with an admiral at marineford that alone is enough to prove that most warlords would lose against ace and then u see him keep up with yamato also ace would destroy doflamingo
Ace couldnt beat mihawk and if he cant beat mihawk he DEF cant beat buggy since buggy was beating mihawk during marineford until mihawk turned his greatest weapon against him and kumas devil fruit is just way OP and broken.
Bro wtf 😂
Why he doesn't...
Mihawk
there’s emperors that wouldn’t even be able to beat mihawk 1v1
I dunno ace might rizz up boa or somethin'
Ace ain't got same level rizz as luffy
@@RimuruTempest-wl1ru I dunno he rizzed up a whole guy in Yamato
This was a good video until you brought up weevil losing to greenbull. This is a feat for greenbull, not an anti feat for weevil.
Buggy fr no diffs ace, I mean he literally has mihawk working for him lol. Buggy is the strongest yonko!
Haha
LN Ace >>>>>Strawhats up to Wano or end of WCI
Dressrosa g4 luffy one shots
Ace does not beat law 😭
mihawk was the strongest warlord
You make a mistake while explaining canon as you conflate it with continuity. This is a very common mistake, so it isn't a big deal. Basically when it comes to feats, canon just describes what can happen. Continuity describes what actually happens.
In other words, something that is canonical isn't necessarily continuous, but something continuous must be canon. And non-canon things not only didn't happen, but can't happen.
shut up law mihawk and kuma dogstomps ace.
I don't really take novel feat serious it wasn't written by Oda. Sure Oda supervised it. He just gave the guy that wrote it the important plot points to go through. If u give me the plot points, I can write up a story and Buff the powerscaling to sky too.
I’m confused on one inconsistency with this video.
Who you comparing ace to?
Is it the most recent Version of Law, Crocodile, Jimbei? Or are you comparing them to Their strenght as a warlord?
warlord versions of each character
@@IMO3530roger that! Thank you!
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