"THIS IS TOXIC, IT'S MESSING WITH OUR MENTAL HEALTH!!!" CROOK & JOELL AIR OUT JOE & ROYCE...(PT3)
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The wisdom this show casually dispenses can be f'ing poetic. Mecca talking about the finality of choices and, "They meant it until they didn't." Extremely well put!
Yeah i felt every piece of that.
Super deep but simple thanks Mecca and MEO and Crook n Joell
It was true. Till it wasn’t … when it was said it was true. Wise words take away!!!
TRUTH SPOKEN!!!!!!
Right glad Meca put them in their place. They also said they didn't know joe wanted them to get a bigger piece of the pie by leaving shady. YOU CANT BE SERIOUS WHO DOESNT UNDERSTAND THAT LEAVING A MAJOR AND DOING IT ON YOUR OWN MEANS A BIGGER SLICE DUE TO OWNERSHIP?!?!?!?!!
I can't rock with these guys they playinh dumb when it suits them but then they say they are great business men - they lying
We waiting on these interviews like crack bro this is the best black man show on any platform right now. Thank you Math.
Factssssss
I mean, I'm scratching at my neck so.....yeah, need that
Cap
What’s a black man show brotha? 😢😂
Bro, i feel like Pookie in this bitch! 😂
12:13 “No one is the villain in their own story.” Ice Cold Mecc
The most mature statement out of the entire interview.
King Von was
Mecca wants that 5 Heartbeats moment..where they all come together at the cookout.
Ironically, Royce had an IG post of the last SH meeting saying they were like the 5 Heartbeats at the cookout.
Facts💯
Mecca I feel you but 10 yrs waitin I understand their move
I felt Mecca on this. He was a fan. A true fan and i can tell it hurt him.
Also kind of corny. A lot of entitlement that comes from fandom. He feels entitled for them to behave a certain type of way. [>
7:37 “Nobody ever plans on going back when they go back. It’s always true until it’s not.” DAMN. It’s cold, but it’s real. Mecc dropped a bomb, no flex 💣
Truth but there are exceptions to the rule but few that's true that they closed the door
Crook and Joell can still make amazing music. So can Royce and Joe. That's all there is now.
Wishing success to each individual.
Joe is done with music, he's a podcaster/influencer now 😂
@@rikkidgermano9640 true. Well, err, hope he continues doing that haha
I dunno bro. Royce is doing a lot of lyrical spiritual babble right nowadays. Which I’m not against, but it ain’t hitting like it used to.
@@niiokaidja8701 Royce's work with Tobi (Nwigwe?) Was really cool though.
Idk but to me these two seem far more genuine and honest about the situation. They aren’t beating around the bush or let anyone make wild assumptions while also not being disrespectful to Royce and Joe, but telling how the situation is. If anything Crooked seems more hurt than anything realizing they ain’t fucking with him how he fucks with them. Crooked seems like a solid dude that stands on principles.
but they never said they didn't fuck with him they just didn't want to do business with him. that should be ok amongst friends or brothers as they like to say.
Facts. Joe is the common denominator for so many beef's and issues.. Royce just loyal to Joe for whatever reason
I feel like from the beginning everyone knew this shit was Joe's fault and Royce was just riding with him
FACTS
@@thirdburna true...although, he put his hood and their lives on the line for Joe, and Joe responded with...well, "Joe" (selfishness)
Joell and Crook respect Joe and Royce so much that they won’t let Math disrespect them.
700th like. Shout out to Joell and Crook. Royce once said "if the group should ever part ways, it'll be an excuse to reunite at Coachella." So here's hoping they're all in a better space in a few years from now and can come back together
“We can disband right now and it’s going to always be love.” #joebudden#Slaughterhouse😢😢😢
It would be Rock the Bells lol
minus Budden
10 years tho Mecca... Man we only live one time. Waiting that long to put music together as a collective is fuckin crazy. I'm glad they jumped off the ship.
8:39 That's a moment worth noting right there with Crook and Joell and how they hold Joe even still.
that was amazing!
Who gives a shit?
I felt the same way as Mecca just as fans those four together were absolute monsters!!!!!!! Bars bars bars bars bars bars non stop bars bars I miss hip hop
Crooked and Joel’s new album is fire…great music, these guys can rap and they also picked dope beats.
Is that Hanz in the cut?? That man is A real general! This interview is classic!!
Good point, he meant that until he didn’t…
“No matter how much loot I get I’m stayin’ in the projects…” Havoc meant that… until he didn’t…
Math this was so needed. As a slaughterhouse fan I wanna know why and I see now. I loved the rise and fall of slaughterhouse album was fire salute 2 crook and Joelle
That album was def fire
I disagree. As a Day 1 SlaugherHouse fan, they put everything on wax. It was in the album. We didn’t need this. The Rise and Fall album has all of this in the songs. [>
@@kaineshigaraki5253 after Joe and royce came and said they part I wanted 2 hear these 2 opinions
@@dezmondgreen That’s fair. [>
Damn right
Mecca was SPITTIN
Mecca.... an unparalleled sense of calm and direction. Salute black KING
I understand exactly where they comin from...
It's like if your chick leaves the crib cuz she don't like the house y'all live in. You try and try to persuade her to come back. She continuously tells you she'll come back....but only if y'all not in that house. You actually have no problem with the house.....but you sell it so you can try and reconcile. You try to shop around for a new house or at least look for something that you can present to her as a starting point to get her what she wants. You find something........and a year and some change later............she still not home.
When do you clip it?
Most mfs didn't even make it this far into the comment cuz they read and said "Let dat b*tch go!" 2 seconds after she walked out the 1st door.
Great analogy
Mecca continually telling them how to handle a situation that he doesn't know what fully went on was really weird to watch.
Facts man sound like a whole Hoe 🤷🏿♂️
He feels entitled because he was a small part of their union.
I honestly feel like people have no idea how many times Joell and Crook got asked the question, when is the next SlaugherHouse album coming out.
They kept it cool for the longest time. They could’ve said, nah, Joe doesn’t want to do it. Royce doesn’t want to do it without Joe, so it’s just going to be Crook and Joell from now on.
They didn’t. They got frustrated and vented with music. [>
Mecca is trying to take too much credit because he handed out phone numbers like he wrote verses and stuff 😂
I wish he would shut the hell up
@@rikkidgermano9640 Nah, he trying to remind them of their former self and why not say never, because it's a chance, maybe a slight chance, they could unite.
This segment of the interview was brilliant!!!
As a Slaughterhouse fan, atleast I can be Thankful that Joel and Crooked are still doing music together 🤷🏽♂️
Anyone else getting a “We’re processing this video. Check back later.” error message?
Dude with the dreads spoke real wisdom on speaking truth and changing 👏👏
Nah. He’s talking like he’s privy to the situation when he’s not. Sometimes you need to have a press conference to announce your retirement. Even if you go come back [>
@@kaineshigaraki5253 life is forever changing ,, he explained that truth very well 👏 👌
@@SquintyTV
life is forever changing that doesn’t mean you shouldn’t put an end to a chapter. Crook and Joell are done with SlaugherHouse. He’s all upset acting like, things can change, so what then. What then? They announce that things changed. It’s not that big of a deal to announce how you feel.
Things change, so what. The more things change, the more they stay the same. He’s acting like SlaugherHouse can NEVER reunite because of that album, which is false. Many groups have had worse falling offs that lead to reunions.
To me, Mecca is talking like he’s saying some profound $#!% when all I hear is Mecca acting like he knows the situation better than them. [>
4:28 Math Hoffa a fool for singing that 😂🤣
We want that Derrick Rose Interview
Joell is one of the few people to finally say "THERE'S THE TRUTH" & not there's his or our truth. I'm tired of hearing people say that crap about "you told your truth" cause it makes it sound like the other half are telling lies.
As a fan I am glad they said something..Because it should be final if it was a toxic situation
This shit should've been nominated for Best Hip Hop Platform
I replayed this like 3x thinking my CZcams froze
my browers can't play this particular video...all the others play except this one...anybody else?
same
Same here
Love how Crooked mentioned Nino Bless when talking about who created slaughterhouse
Somehow this video aint working for me while PT4 is.
Yeah it’s not working for me either
Me neither
Shoutout to Mecca for being the only one to keep it real.
Bro Mecca was in top tier form for this one 👌🏾💯
I really hate as a society people have accepted that "my truth" statement. I really hate that because it's dishonest. If everyone is running around hollering "this is my truth" than what really is THE TRUTH? Because Mecca is correct in stating everyone discounts themselves of being the villain in their own story, if there even is a villain. Sometimes things run their course and that part of your journey is over. For artists and entertainers, the fans can stifle growth and creativity wanting what THEY want. Because no matter whose side you believe, just know that there is THE TRUTH and then everyone else is an eyewitness to theirs.
Been sayin this for YEARS!!!!
Very well said. There can't be several truths to a story.
@@dalitsomz There absolutely can be when dealing with subjective situations. Someone can perceive someone else's intent a different way. What matters is are there facts to back up either side. Not three is also irrefutable facts which King and Joelle brought up as well.
@@ReaveIdono You can have different vantage points in any given circumstance, however, there always is a prevailing truth. You are right in stating what are the facts and what one knows to be true. I have never read anything about Crook or Joell messing anyone over. Not one time. However, the same can't be said about Joe Budden. Is everything all his fault? Perhaps not, but he has a presence about him.
It just means perspective
I felt the exact same way as Mecca! Straight up heartbroken as a fan. For me, in my list of superstar legendary groups it's Hiero, Outkast, Wu-Tang and it's Slaughterhouse... One of the saddest days in hip-hop for me. Imagine if they could've continued and fulfilled the end goal with the label and putting on real lyricists and protect that lane and culture.
My man with the braids, sound like one of those guys who always need to center himself. Dude said I don't know if it would've been was best for yall.... After they made out clear they were done.
That cornball has dreads not braids but I agree
Another CLASSIC conversation! 🏆🏆🏆
I can tell how Royce and Joe Budden are more "friends" based off how they talk and portray things.
I do not now these people, but I feel Joell and Crooked talk more straight forward and honest. Not a round around and lil riddles to figure out.
Yooo math had me cracking up in this 😂”yo I’m not a diva anymore …..nah yall I’m
Kidding ……or am I “ 😂😂
Mecca's monologue was top level, shed a thug tear.
Same...
@@TheAlexandrierS why lol
Still waiting for the day they reunite at coachella 🫡🥲
Def tuned in for this one 👀🍿
What’s the processing is being done that has this vid not available
Good to see Crook and Joell talk about slaughterhouse without disrespecting Joe and Royce. Big respect
I just want these four brothers to sit down in a room and have a cordial conversation.
lol you don’t know joe budden very well
They’ve tried! Joe’s just stubborn.
Facts
Joe doesn’t care. Joe is the main reason why they will not resolve this for at least a decade.
[>
The mere presence of Joseph Anthony Budden guarantees that will never happen.
"Have a beer" went over everyone's head. Royce used to be an alcoholic lmao
Can't see this video for some reason, I have the audio though. Is there a restriction ?
the new Joell & Crooked album is dope, i'm glad this interview is out here... Shady is in a great place rn too-
Boogie and Grip are dope MCs dropping some of the label's best work- super soulful & hard at the same time, lyrical but
really relatable sh*t
YelaWolf was a success. Griselda was a success. Conway was a success. WSG was a success. Westside Boogie is being successful and so is Grip.
The only failure from the 2.0 Shady Era is SlaugherHouse. Main reason is Joe. [>
I hope Joel Ortiz & Kxng Crooked go back to Shady Records
@@othonpedro2870 Nah. It’s a wrap. They are both getting close to retirement (their words not mine). That chapter is over. Moreover, it’s a better business decision to stay independent.
I can’t see eM or Paul opening up the budget for two retirement albums. [>
The rise and fall album was 🔥
Been waiting on this one.
From my perspective it seem like Royce was getting more recognition as a solo artist instead of Em sidekick and Joe was tired of his music output going unnoticed by the general public. So they both had to come up with an excuse instead of keeping real with the other group members
Harbor city is actually a triple entendra low-key about connecting coast, also an audio movie 🎬 and the psychology of letting go the *HARBORING* resentment that led to the epic groups demise.
AYO why video not working
my feelings are still hurt they split man. I'll never let go of a chance for slaughterhouse to come back
Brooklyn Hanz Watching the door is so underrated in this interview lol
“The Baby in the Blender”, Chef Kiss! Classic & succinct. For the Culture and I’m now subscribed. I wish I knew about this channel sooner. Keep up the great work and content.
Yo Math, you prolly won't see this but if you do, keep that dude Mecca on your show as a permanent host. I never knew of him before this pod but I'm really loving the wisdom and insight he brings to the table.
Facts I love hearing mecca perspective
It is until it isn’t is one of my favorite lines.
Get trick daddy it would be legendary
mad knowledge, wisdom and genuine love for the craft and culture with these cats! --- there's nothing final, except death, we are all still living! AMEN!
Harbor City album is a gift. The Vibrate Higher track with AZ is phenomenal!
CZcams not letting me watch this, saying it’s processing the video 🤔
This cliff hanger is crazy lol.
It's a sad day when so called real ones talk about Mental health. Smh.
I'm glad crooked corrected him Nino Bless was who truly put the formula of the group together
Brooklyn hanz ain’t lacking he watching that door heavy lol💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾
The truth hits different.
Salute to Joell and Crook I don't know much about your music but I will check it out. Get your money mane!
The full interview gon be nuts. Joe and Royce are two peas in a pod. Look how royce handled the Lupe situation
Lupe was wrong in that situation.. and im a huge Lupe fan
@@donpatchey3178 how was he wrong?
Crook/joell trippin. Lupe def was tripping too. You "fans" ain't seeing the whole picture.
@@donpatchey3178 how was he wrong?
@@blueways6699 enlighten us
Why can’t I watch it this video
Nobody’s a bullish in their own story!!!!
Sheeeeeeesh!!! 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Heavy Gratitude
Crook and Joell did the right thing and people blame them for it and call it a PR stunt. Wasn't that what REAL MC's do? Write REAL bars about their REAL life situations and REAL interactions with people and life? Tf
Again, those 2 are better off without those 2 snakes. Tell Royce to cry about WRAiTH again.
Cool, now as another fan of hiphop i needed that Album and explanation from Crook it puts the mind at ease knowing why Glasshouse never came out.
Yo how I already watched this video and then I go to watch again and it says processing. Shit been processing since yesterday bro! Like what’s up with CZcams?
This is the best interview ever 🔥
GOT DAMMIT I WANT THIS WHOLE INTERVIEW SO FUGGIN BAD!!!!!!!! *Don't get me wrong, I get it. Get ya money HOFFA!* Lol but DAMMIT FANAMALY! Having to catch this whole shit, in 13 minute increments a day is KILLIN ME!!!!!! Which, I know is the point. You're supposed to make us salivate for the next drop. This ya hustle. But FUCK! Y'all got the rock and I'm FIENIN for the next hit. Hahahaha
Damn son. You down bad😂
You can get the whole interview. If it got you feeling like that you can subscribe, and support.
@@keanugardiner7738 lol
"making fiens sniff earth YA HEARD" 😂
JUST THE FACT THAT WE LEARN FROM THIS INTERVIEW THAT THEY DIDN'T EVEN KNOW HOW JOE BIDEN FELT & WHERE HE WAS COMING FROM TILL NOW, 2 YEARS AFTER BREAKING UP OFICIALY MAKES IT A GOOD INTERVIEW. FOR THAT FACT ALONE, FOR SHADY RECORDS & EM FANS THIS IS MAJOR NEWS. THEY LET THE FANS DOWN BAD. L.L.
Im glad the split happened fr. @13:00 That dumbfounded shrug of the shoulders said alot
As a slaughter and hip hop fan, this was the worst group parting. The potential of the 4 headed dragon was limitless man. That 15 minute “truth or truth” still gives me chills, that “move on” still moves me a way, and that “goodbye”…. Smh. Slaughterhouse was golden
Mec fails to understand that this is not about him. Its painful.
That’s why he said 1000 times he is talking from a fans perspective
I suppose
Dudes over 21 using the word toxic is crazy
I don’t want to see voltron where the leg don’t really want to be there.
Joell with the STEELERS draft cap🔥
🟡⚫️🟡⚫️🟡⚫️
2:05 Joell thought it was Esso at the door 👀🤛🏾🤣
I need to see this episode ASAP 💯
@04:32 math did a Lenny kravitz song
Mecca. They haven't made a album in ten years.
HOFFA GANG HIT THE LIKES AND SHARE THE VIDEO!!!!
Man, no way I'm waiting 10 or 11 years to make music with some so called friends, FOH. Esp if I get off a label where I'm happy AND Joe refuses to speak to them! Joe retired anyways, period. These fellas are beasts on the Mic and some real OG's, RESPECT!
They dont want Crook & Joel making dis records. They couldn't battle they way out of an ass kicking on wax
I'm literally in the same boat as Mecca, and as someone who was close to the movement at the grass roots level, it actually hurt me. It was ugly from all sides. I got much love for these guys, but it didn't have to go down this way.
Cuh smart af...it didn't have to be final....crazy
Change is the only Constant! Salute to the hood brother Hynaken💯
Dude with the glasses just full of him self
the only time we see royce is if someone talks about eminem. he comes out the woodwork for that. but not for his group. sad
I love joel face like . Wtf you talking about mecca. Weird