Suzuki 9 9 to 20 HP Conversion Project - So Easy!

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  • čas přidán 17. 03. 2022
  • I was excited to convert my Suzuki 4 Stroke Outboard motor from a 9.9 HP to a 20 HP. They are basically the same motor with 2 different parts. So, I ordered them and went to work getting them installed. Couple tricky parts, but it went smoothly for the most part and I gained about 9 mph!
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  • @UncleKennysPlace
    @UncleKennysPlace Před 20 dny +33

    We used to put the 9.9 cover decals on 15 hp motors, forty-something years ago.

    • @Dark30Outdoors
      @Dark30Outdoors  Před 20 dny +6

      That’s another way to go! 👍

    • @FrankRommerts-dr4yp
      @FrankRommerts-dr4yp Před 19 dny +2

      We used to do that with a 6hp Mercury cover on a 15hp Mercury, just to fool the police, my little Zodiac Cadet 310 used to go over 50kph with that 15hp Mercury, the whole boat and motor combination weighed like 90kg with a full 24 liter tank.

    • @golfish8589
      @golfish8589 Před 19 dny +5

      ​@@Dark30Outdoors
      Try putting the original control module in and test the speed and acceleration just by removing the air restrictor.
      ? ? ? Will it run a little bit better or a little worse or alot worse?.

    • @BobWiersema
      @BobWiersema Před 16 dny +3

      Manufactures used to put 9.9 carbs on the 15's to meet the 9.9 rule when it first came out. I have a Gamefisher like that.

    • @Dark30Outdoors
      @Dark30Outdoors  Před 16 dny +2

      @@BobWiersema Yep, and guys would do a carb conversion on them.

  • @Slaktrax
    @Slaktrax Před 17 dny +13

    That's a serious restrictor plate, heck it can hardly breathe.

  • @tomkeltescheverythingoutdo2379

    Nothing more gratifying than doing something yourself to save money.

  • @YourNextCast
    @YourNextCast Před 2 lety +11

    Nice demonstration and glad you took it out on the water too. Didn't even know you could do that. Appreciate you sharing the knowledge.

    • @Dark30Outdoors
      @Dark30Outdoors  Před 2 lety +1

      Yeah, it was easier than I thought it would be. Thanks for watching!!

  • @williamsaldanah3554
    @williamsaldanah3554 Před 20 dny +12

    Little soapy water as a lubricant helps sliding things with rubber gaskets or mounting surfaces in place a lot easier

    • @Dark30Outdoors
      @Dark30Outdoors  Před 20 dny +3

      Thanks! I appreciate that tip!

    • @8180634
      @8180634 Před 20 dny +1

      Windex is great for that, it dries nicely.

    • @SynicalBeats
      @SynicalBeats Před 20 dny +2

      Really don't want to get water near a ECM or the connector. Silicone lube spray would be better.

    • @barrykruyssen
      @barrykruyssen Před 3 dny

      @@SynicalBeats not really as silicone spray stays slippery, where as windex and/or soapy water dry. Thus the rubber still offers support via friction. In most cases like this I use Saliva (yes I spit on it 🙂)

  • @TheReefRobber
    @TheReefRobber Před 2 lety +10

    That’s awesome! Never knew you could do that. Looks pretty easy.

  • @larrypugh9662
    @larrypugh9662 Před 16 dny +3

    I just came across your video. It’s straight forward no bs and informative. Keep up the good work

  • @MinuteontheMountain
    @MinuteontheMountain Před 2 lety +4

    Nice upgrade. Great demo video, Kyle.

  • @1224Peterson
    @1224Peterson Před 2 měsíci +40

    There is no need for a new ECU, I did this same conversion and by the advice of a Suzuki tech he said the stock ECU would adjust to the added airflow and it did, runs great.
    Only parts you need are the flame arrestor on seal

    • @Dark30Outdoors
      @Dark30Outdoors  Před 2 měsíci +2

      Glad to know that is working for you!

    • @kitkat101
      @kitkat101 Před měsícem +4

      @1224Peterson Still no problems? I’m thinking about doing this but the ECU is really expensive.

    • @Dark30Outdoors
      @Dark30Outdoors  Před měsícem +4

      @@kitkat101 Running like a dream!

    • @1224Peterson
      @1224Peterson Před měsícem +11

      @@kitkat101 No issues, I've been checking the spark plugs and they look good, no signs of running too rich or too lean so the ECU is doing it's job. You will need a new prop tho, I got an 11 pitch, the stock prop on these are horrible anyways so budget for a prop as well

  • @ParabellumFishing
    @ParabellumFishing Před 2 lety +2

    I didn't even realize you could to that! And looked like a simple job. Nice man!

  • @positivepikachu3764
    @positivepikachu3764 Před 2 lety +4

    Showing some love from Canada 🇨🇦 ❤

  • @coyotewacker
    @coyotewacker Před 2 lety +2

    That was pretty cool Kyle, Thanks for sharing

  • @andrewgoodfellow2039
    @andrewgoodfellow2039 Před dnem +1

    If I was doing this I would check the ignition advance between the two models and the injector size. If there the same spec I would say its the washer between the airbox and the throttle body, that is restricting down to the smaller hp

  • @robertmccaleb3109
    @robertmccaleb3109 Před 2 lety +2

    Man! Your video was awesome thank you. I’m soon to get the Suzuki 9.9 2022 4 stroke short shaft. Thank you for sharing that. If I ever have the need to up it to 15hp or 20. I now know how to do it. So amazing again thank you. Your video was super informative. Great job.

    • @Dark30Outdoors
      @Dark30Outdoors  Před 2 lety

      Thank you! I appreciate the kind words!!

    • @tonymclean1707
      @tonymclean1707 Před rokem +1

      Hi Robert, I just got my 2022 9.9B today, cannot find anyone selling the 2022 ECU and parts. Did you just go to the dealer? Is yours a 00995F-24xxxx?

    • @robertmccaleb3109
      @robertmccaleb3109 Před rokem

      @@tonymclean1707 i went ahead and got the suzuki 6hp

    • @MrErik038
      @MrErik038 Před 20 dny

      Nice of you to share and make the video, thanks!

  • @SteveFromWyoming
    @SteveFromWyoming Před 2 lety +7

    Unbelievable you can convert to that much more horsepower with such few parts. Good job

    • @Dark30Outdoors
      @Dark30Outdoors  Před 2 lety +1

      Yeah, pretty slick huh!!

    • @gromitNOR83
      @gromitNOR83 Před 20 dny

      9.9hp engines are tailor made for specific markets and regulatory rules. like in the EU the maximum engines kids under 16 can use is a 9.9hp engine. Easier to downgrade an existing engine design to meet the hp requirement than making a whole new engine.

  • @railroaderoutdoorsandmore5888

    What a great video!! Very well done, step by step!!!

  • @danmcg9981
    @danmcg9981 Před 8 měsíci +8

    A prop change would increase speed.
    The 20 horse has a different prop.
    The ECM controls max rpm.

  • @BreamBassBeyond
    @BreamBassBeyond Před 2 lety +1

    Pretty cool conversion! Good video man!

  • @PamReviews
    @PamReviews Před 2 lety +1

    Hi 👋 I love your fish behind you . Thanks for sharing. It’s amazing what you can learn .

  • @schmattz_custom_lures2105

    Thats great I was under the impression you had gotten a new motor!

    • @Dark30Outdoors
      @Dark30Outdoors  Před 2 lety +1

      No, the upgrade wasn't a purchase but rather a simple conversion!

  • @marks6072
    @marks6072 Před 9 měsíci +12

    with the new found torque, you can install a 12 or 13 pitch prop and get significantly more top speed out of that motor now.. Probably closer to 28-29 mph

  • @nutrianinja9325
    @nutrianinja9325 Před 2 lety +3

    Gotcha going on all four of my channels! You should be getting your watch hours very soon! -The Reef Robber

    • @Dark30Outdoors
      @Dark30Outdoors  Před 2 lety +2

      Awesome! Thanks buddy! Each day I check it, and they have a funny way of doing math, but I just keep going!! lol

    • @nutrianinja9325
      @nutrianinja9325 Před 2 lety +2

      @@Dark30Outdoors I know what you mean! You’ll get there

  • @baitsanddebates4743
    @baitsanddebates4743 Před 2 lety +5

    The Reef Robber is on here running all your videos for you. Hope you get your hours soon!

  • @Subvet684
    @Subvet684 Před 15 dny +3

    I upgraded my 15 to 20, if I knew what I know now, I would have just bought the 9.9 and upgraded it. Others have mentioned changing the prop, but when I looked it up, the standard prop was the same for both. Haven’t had it out on the water yet, but it runs fine on the Mickey Mouse hose fitting

  • @bogolyskeepingitreel
    @bogolyskeepingitreel Před rokem +4

    This is so cool Kyle! Nice you went from 13mph to 21mph and your take off n getting on plane quicker. Very nice!

    • @Dark30Outdoors
      @Dark30Outdoors  Před rokem +3

      Yeah, since the video I have actually adjusted the tilt and my new max speed is right at 24 mph! For my little boat that's great!!

    • @bogolyskeepingitreel
      @bogolyskeepingitreel Před rokem

      @@Dark30Outdoors that’s awesome 👍

  • @OfftheHookOutdoors99
    @OfftheHookOutdoors99 Před 2 lety +1

    Awesome now you will be rollin!👍👍

    • @Dark30Outdoors
      @Dark30Outdoors  Před 2 lety +2

      Ha! Zippin to my next casting spot instead of trolling all day! lol

  • @WomanOutdoors
    @WomanOutdoors Před 2 lety +1

    I have no idea what you did but it looked interesting! LOL

  • @johngoodman9380
    @johngoodman9380 Před 24 dny +16

    Larger prop will increase top speed and still give good hole shot. Try stainless cupped prop, big difference.

    • @Dark30Outdoors
      @Dark30Outdoors  Před 23 dny +3

      I might some day, but for now I really like what I got.

  • @MrSki-mv2kr
    @MrSki-mv2kr Před 19 dny +2

    Great mod and I am sure you saved thousands.

    • @Dark30Outdoors
      @Dark30Outdoors  Před 19 dny +2

      Thanks, but I only saved around $40 or so. Though, technically I have an OB motor I can run as 9.9 or 20 hp. Also it says 9.9 so it’s valid on lakes that are 10 hp or less.

  • @bucktalesoutdoors7566
    @bucktalesoutdoors7566 Před 2 lety +6

    That’s awesome that you can upgrade by 10 HP that easily and for less than $500. Sweet ! Wonder if I can upgrade my Johnson 15 hp to a 30 as easily. Something to look into. 13 mph up to 21, yeah that’s a great upgrade and getting on plane that much quicker. Good job Kyle !

    • @Dark30Outdoors
      @Dark30Outdoors  Před 2 lety +1

      If your Johnson is a 4 stroke that is fuel injected then it might be possible. The only other model that I have heard of people doing it on is the Yamaha.

    • @bucktalesoutdoors7566
      @bucktalesoutdoors7566 Před 2 lety +1

      @@Dark30Outdoors yep she’s a fuel injected 4 stroke but she’s also a bit older 2013. She gives me pretty much all I need.

    • @igotmesothelioma
      @igotmesothelioma Před rokem +2

      @@bucktalesoutdoors7566 Johnson never made a 15hp fuel injection 4 stroke.

    • @bucktalesoutdoors7566
      @bucktalesoutdoors7566 Před rokem

      @@igotmesothelioma you’re right my 15 HP 4 stroke Johnson is carbureted. Oh well ! It goes ok.

    • @lukesmith32
      @lukesmith32 Před 10 měsíci

      ​@@bucktalesoutdoors7566might be able to change the carb to a larger hp one, change fuel pump, and some other things

  • @renegademind1833
    @renegademind1833 Před rokem +3

    Question. Does the Suzuki 9.9 hp 'cowling' fit on a 20 HP (vise/versa) It be interesting to know. Never mind.. I found out it does.

  • @MySliceOfHeavenoutdoors
    @MySliceOfHeavenoutdoors Před 2 lety +4

    That's very cool that you can change it to a 20 HP with just changing out those 3 parts.

    • @gordonshumway4763
      @gordonshumway4763 Před 6 měsíci

      In fact, you can not buy anything at all, take out the metal flap from the rubber band, and the control unit ebu flash the firmware from 20hp motor, firmware is available on the network, I can share. It can be flashed with any programmer, for example piasini v4.3.

    • @capsterism
      @capsterism Před měsícem +1

      @@gordonshumway4763 Do you know where one could obtain firmware for 20 hp, electric start external controlbox?

    • @gordonshumway4763
      @gordonshumway4763 Před měsícem

      @@capsterism Hello, buddy!
      Write your e-mail.

    • @gordonshumway4763
      @gordonshumway4763 Před měsícem

      @@capsterism Hello, buddy!
      Write your mail.

    • @capsterism
      @capsterism Před měsícem

      @@gordonshumway4763 seems my posts keep getting removed... 😞

  • @MarkJLarsonOutdoors
    @MarkJLarsonOutdoors Před 2 lety +3

    That was very cool brother! I can't believe it was that simple! In your opinion is it better to do that or bye a 20 hp from the start and what would be the price difference? Thanks for sharing my friend!

    • @Dark30Outdoors
      @Dark30Outdoors  Před 2 lety +10

      I think it was maybe $100 cheaper converting it, but technically I can run my OB motor with 2 different configurations! Plus, here in Ohio we have lakes that are 10 HP or less. Well my motor is shown as a 9.9!

    • @MarkJLarsonOutdoors
      @MarkJLarsonOutdoors Před 2 lety +2

      @@Dark30Outdoors Great idea buddy!!

  • @davegeorge7094
    @davegeorge7094 Před 21 dnem +9

    Flame arrester on the intake of carb/fuel inj. system. I'd call it restricter plate.

    • @Dark30Outdoors
      @Dark30Outdoors  Před 21 dnem +3

      Yeah, that's just what they call it.

    • @Old_Sailor85
      @Old_Sailor85 Před 19 dny +1

      All marine gasoline engines should have a flame arrestor on the intake. Especially an inboard or I/O. You have never seen a backfire (and it's not a noise from the exhaust)?

    • @glennjames7107
      @glennjames7107 Před 7 dny +1

      The airbox is the actual flame arrestor on outboards.

    • @Old_Sailor85
      @Old_Sailor85 Před 6 dny

      @@glennjames7107 Those engineers, what they won't think of.

  • @RaisedOutdoors
    @RaisedOutdoors Před 2 lety +1

    I had no idea that was possible lol. Great video

  • @donc2334
    @donc2334 Před 11 měsíci +4

    My question to you and anyone in the group who completed the upgrade to either 15 or 20hp is whether a noticable increase in power was noted at low to mid RPMs, or only at the high end because the WOT max was increased? For example would I expect to have greater speed (and therefore greater fuel consumption) at say 3500RPM (my expected typical cruising speed) after converting to 15 or 20hp? Thanks!

    • @Dark30Outdoors
      @Dark30Outdoors  Před 11 měsíci +3

      My boat sure gets up on plane a lot quicker than it did before! I don't think the increased fuel consumption is that noticeable really.

  • @michaelbarrett2346
    @michaelbarrett2346 Před 21 dnem +1

    Great job, thank you

  • @barry8458
    @barry8458 Před 18 dny +1

    Great mod 👍🏼…simple unlike the old 2 stroke carb and tuned exhaust exchange…need my 9.9 Yamaha 4stroke done too but probly won’t be same mods…

    • @Dark30Outdoors
      @Dark30Outdoors  Před 18 dny +1

      Quite simple really. Not sure if it’s the same for Yamaha, but it would be worth looking into! 👍

  • @HuntingFarmerOfficial
    @HuntingFarmerOfficial Před 2 lety +3

    Awesome upgrade! I thought you might be boring the cylinders 30 over and putting a turbo on it. 😂

    • @Dark30Outdoors
      @Dark30Outdoors  Před 2 lety +1

      Hahaha! Now, I'm brainstorming turbo ideas! lol

  • @mikeadamski6061
    @mikeadamski6061 Před 2 lety +2

    How long is your boat? I have a 16ft sea-nymph I'm debating on doing this to. I'm only getting 13mph with a 9.9 carbed correctly to a 15.

    • @Dark30Outdoors
      @Dark30Outdoors  Před 2 lety +2

      Mine is a 14.5':, and I'm getting 23 mph with a 10 pitch prop (keeps my RPM's well below red line). My buddy has the standard 9 pitch prop and the same motor on a 16' Sea Nymph and I'm sure he's over 20 and very happy with it! The conversion is super easy to do!!

  • @RANDYSMITHOU812
    @RANDYSMITHOU812 Před 2 lety +1

    We will be there Wed but we're not having you do a video of us this week so others can get in, hope we have a large turn out.

  • @john6268
    @john6268 Před 10 měsíci +3

    Looking to do this to a Mercury 9.9 EFI. The parts seems to be the same between the 9.9/15/20 EFIs, except for the ECUs and restrictors on the 9.9/15. Hope it'll be this easy for me.

    • @Dark30Outdoors
      @Dark30Outdoors  Před 10 měsíci +2

      I think it should be. 👍

    • @john6268
      @john6268 Před 9 měsíci +2

      @@Dark30Outdoors Yep, it was very similar, and worked. The ECU was a little harder as I had to remove the lower cowling a bit since the electric starter take up some room above the ECU so I couldn't pull it out without some more space.

    • @Dark30Outdoors
      @Dark30Outdoors  Před 9 měsíci +2

      @@john6268 That's awesome!

  • @drumminsonlive9199
    @drumminsonlive9199 Před 4 měsíci +1

    I would love to know how much difference it would be to just replace the restrictor plug with the flame arrestor with the original cd in place.

    • @Dark30Outdoors
      @Dark30Outdoors  Před 4 měsíci +1

      Good question, but I don’t know if that would have a negative impact on the existing ecm.

  • @jc136982
    @jc136982 Před rokem +1

    you can take the side cowling off to pull the air box down and forwards, I was staring at one of the bolts the whole video

  • @keen1957
    @keen1957 Před 18 dny +2

    I remember yrs ago ( carburetor days) you could buy a merc 115 and re jet it to a 150 by using the 150 jets, under $25.

    • @Dark30Outdoors
      @Dark30Outdoors  Před 18 dny +2

      Now, that's a heck of a value!!

    • @erikteubler1214
      @erikteubler1214 Před 15 dny +1

      I guess you refer to the straight 6 Tower of Power. What a beautiful engine was that! Good memories from a long time ago.

  • @matthewdickson2627
    @matthewdickson2627 Před 2 lety +2

    Awesome- did you break in the motor first while it was a 9.9 ? I like the weight savings if using on an inflatable where it is being removed often.

    • @Dark30Outdoors
      @Dark30Outdoors  Před rokem +2

      Yes, I broke it in as a 9.9 and ran it for several months and through a couple of oil changes before doing the upgrade!

    • @IsmaelPR32
      @IsmaelPR32 Před rokem +1

      9.9 and 20 both weigh the same actually.

    • @tylerhennigan8465
      @tylerhennigan8465 Před rokem +1

      ​@@Dark30Outdoors so would you recommend running it for a while before converting to 20hp? Is it necessary?

    • @Dark30Outdoors
      @Dark30Outdoors  Před rokem

      @@tylerhennigan8465 I don't believe it makes a difference at all. Some people might want to wait because this does void the warranty, but these things are built extremely well so I wasn't concerned about that at all!

    • @Dark30Outdoors
      @Dark30Outdoors  Před rokem +2

      @@tylerhennigan8465 I don't believe it makes a difference at all. Some people might want to wait because this does void the warranty, but these things are built extremely well so I wasn't concerned about that at all!

  • @ronobrien7187
    @ronobrien7187 Před 18 dny +1

    It would be nice to see what the flame arrestor looks like.

    • @Dark30Outdoors
      @Dark30Outdoors  Před 18 dny +1

      Good feedback, sorry if I missed showing that item.

  • @DikaiooOne
    @DikaiooOne Před rokem +1

    Does anyone know if you can upgrade the 2023 9.9 to 20hp? Is everything the same or have they changed anything?

    • @Dark30Outdoors
      @Dark30Outdoors  Před rokem +1

      I don't see why not unless they changed the housing or added something and I doubt that to be the case.

  • @Guerrero1187
    @Guerrero1187 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Sweet!! Do you know if I can get more hp out of my 20hp tohatsu efi 4 stroke?? Please 🙏

    • @Dark30Outdoors
      @Dark30Outdoors  Před 10 měsíci +1

      Not sure. For this project, the 2 different motors are the same except the lower hp one reduces fuel flow with a restrictor plate and then uses a different EFI module. Something you could look into.

  • @marklapierre5629
    @marklapierre5629 Před 20 dny +2

    You need to swap the prop to a higher pitch to absorb the additional power. That will give you a higher top speed.

  • @jaydencooper5907
    @jaydencooper5907 Před rokem +1

    I've got a 2013 9.9 Suzuki carby model can you do the same with it or can you only do it on the fuel injected model?

    • @Dark30Outdoors
      @Dark30Outdoors  Před rokem +1

      That's a good question! I'd guess that you can, but it would obviously be different parts!

  • @mammukchannel
    @mammukchannel Před 2 lety +1

    hello my friend, greetings and greetings. thank you for sharing we really like the video ♥️♥️♥️♥️🥰🥰🥰🌹🌹🌹👍👍👍

  • @user-rc4kw5pf7w
    @user-rc4kw5pf7w Před 20 dny +2

    Check to see what sparkplugs go on the 20 HP. Might be best to run with them.

    • @Dark30Outdoors
      @Dark30Outdoors  Před 20 dny +2

      I believe they are the exact same. 👍

    • @dennisyoung4631
      @dennisyoung4631 Před 18 dny +1

      The restrictor allows running only at very low speeds…. Pumping losses go way up once you go much above Idle speed.

  • @williamstreet4304
    @williamstreet4304 Před 17 dny +6

    The reason this works for Suzuki is because the 9.9 and the 20 are the same motor with different intake controls. They both weigh 108 pounds in the long shaft version. But other manufacturers have different approaches. Example Tohatsu offers a 9.9 that weighs the same as their 20. They also offer a 9.8 that is significantly lighter. The 9.8 weighs 80 pounds. If you are frequently using a portable on a dinghy from a larger vessel, the difference in lifting 80 pounds or 108 pounds is significant. It magnifies when mounting to a dinghy in a rolling anchorage. I only post this to highlight the differences between the 2 brands. I have a Tohatsu 4hp on a small boat and a Yammy 175 on a slightly bigger boat. I don't own a Suzy.

    • @Dark30Outdoors
      @Dark30Outdoors  Před 17 dny +1

      Very true!! 👍

    • @williamstreet4304
      @williamstreet4304 Před 16 dny +2

      @@Dark30Outdoors Thanks for the thumbs up. My comment was nothing against your post. The upgrade is awesome and probably less expensive than the 20. I was just thinking of different applications which have different priorities. As a young man in his 70's, weight is becoming very important.

    • @Dark30Outdoors
      @Dark30Outdoors  Před 16 dny +1

      @@williamstreet4304 I can certainly appreciate that!

    • @savyor1839
      @savyor1839 Před 11 dny +1

      This is true - most, if not all 9.9s are restricted versions of the 15 or 20hp. The manufacturers do this across their lineups - I think your yammy is the same engine as the 200, just without vvt
      PS: 70 ain’t nothing young lad!

  • @Ds-xi2sq
    @Ds-xi2sq Před rokem +2

    Wonder if you had a Suzuki 6 hp with a carb...Is there any hop ups for that? cost? performance?

    • @Dark30Outdoors
      @Dark30Outdoors  Před rokem +1

      I'm not sure. I know the 9.9 and the 20 HP that Suzuki makes use the exact same housing, and really everything is the same except for those 3 simple parts!

  • @streetcat1510
    @streetcat1510 Před 2 měsíci +3

    Really!! That’s All you do to convert 9.8 hp to 20 hp!! Amazing.

  • @TomONeilNZ
    @TomONeilNZ Před dnem +1

    Hi - Tom from New Zealand here. I loved your conversion. What year is your Suzuki outboard?

  • @darrenschmitz2712
    @darrenschmitz2712 Před 20 dny +1

    Interesting to see if it uses less fuel at the same speed without that restrictor. In a similar thing where the manufacture limited the power output for the same engine, I had a Cub Cadet with a Kawasaki engine that went from 22hp to 25hp by just allowing the throttle butterfly to open fully.

    • @Dark30Outdoors
      @Dark30Outdoors  Před 20 dny +2

      If I had to guess it likely uses a bit more fuel, but it isn't so much that it is really noticeable at all.

    • @eugenepolan1750
      @eugenepolan1750 Před 16 dny +1

      GM used to limit the throttle valve opening angle on some cars when they had corporate edicts on the amount of power for that size car. One of the first buff-book recommendations was to have someone fully depress the accelerator pedal while you stared down through the top of the carb - of course with the engine off and air cleaner lid removed. If you saw the throttle plate wasn't going vertical, you could look for what was stopping it short and remove that restriction.

  • @ToxicGamer86454
    @ToxicGamer86454 Před 3 měsíci +2

    That is the ECU part number for the non electric start model if I’m not mistaken. Yours is the non electric start model?

  • @solarfunction1847
    @solarfunction1847 Před 13 dny +1

    Did you buy the parts direct from the Suzuki dealership in the US or did you get them from your local boat shop? I was looking into doing the mod if I ever came across a second hand Suzuki 9.9 HP outboard but I wouldn't know where to look for the parts.

  • @dazisgud
    @dazisgud Před rokem +2

    do you get any performace gains with just the flame arrestor? or do you need the ecu?

    • @Dark30Outdoors
      @Dark30Outdoors  Před rokem +2

      I am not sure, I think you do get some. Though, the fuel injectors under the 9.9 ECU are going to push through less fuel than the 20 ECU.

    • @Subvet684
      @Subvet684 Před 15 dny

      I think the ecu raises the rpm limiter…

  • @timlong1462
    @timlong1462 Před rokem +1

    Seems like you should be able to get quite a bit more out of that with higher pitch. I have a Johnson 25 and I am running a 10.3X13 pitch. I can run about 30 mph by myself and 27mph fully loaded with two people. It's a 14 ft fully decked, a lot of gear, and 2 trolling motor batteries as well. I saw some of your other comments that it's common for people to run the even smaller 9 pitch but that seems like quite the difference from my 13. I guess I'm not sure what the diameter is either, or what rpm you are turning. Might just be a big difference from 2 to 4 stroke as well.

    • @Dark30Outdoors
      @Dark30Outdoors  Před 11 měsíci +3

      I do think the 2 strokes turn a higher rpm. I used a temporary ob before this Suzuki came in. It was a 9.9 2 stroke that had a carb mod to 15 hp. It got me to 18 mph. I'm really happy with this set up. I never have to worry about hitting the redline and get pretty good speed out of it. Plus I can use it on 10 HP restricted lakes with no issues.

  • @moparshark
    @moparshark Před 19 dny +3

    Exact same thing on the 40/50/60 Zukes!

    • @Dark30Outdoors
      @Dark30Outdoors  Před 19 dny +1

      Good to know!! 👍

    • @allanweseman5433
      @allanweseman5433 Před 7 dny +1

      I just bought a 2024 Suzuki DF50 to replace my old 1999 DF40. Nice to know I can raise it to 60 later on if I have to. Thanks for the hot tip

  • @glenndavis479
    @glenndavis479 Před 8 dny +1

    Does anybody know if I can upgrade my 5hp Suzuki 4 stroke to something a little bigger in the same manor?? I'm seriously lacking in knowledge on all things outboard related. Thanks.

    • @Dark30Outdoors
      @Dark30Outdoors  Před 8 dny +1

      I’m not sure if they make anything with more power but the same size as the 5 hp.

  • @killgreen420
    @killgreen420 Před rokem +1

    Very cool

  • @gerry7457
    @gerry7457 Před rokem +2

    I'm from the Coboconk area. Where did you get the parts? Thanking you in advance

    • @Dark30Outdoors
      @Dark30Outdoors  Před rokem +1

      I bought mine from Boats.net

    • @gerry7457
      @gerry7457 Před rokem

      @@Dark30Outdoors Just ordered it. Thank you! Now I'm going to sell my 15hp ECM

  • @stupidpeople1012
    @stupidpeople1012 Před 4 měsíci +1

    I did the same to my 9.9...all I did was change the screen in the throttle body ..didn't have to buy the cpu..wow what a difference been running it like this for 2 years now no problems..

    • @Dark30Outdoors
      @Dark30Outdoors  Před 4 měsíci +1

      Awesome! Good to know!

    • @geirleirvik1478
      @geirleirvik1478 Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@Dark30Outdoors Assume wo electronic upgrade you have 15HP

    • @Dark30Outdoors
      @Dark30Outdoors  Před 3 měsíci +2

      @@geirleirvik1478 it can be done either way, but I am unsure of the actual difference between the 2 ways.

  • @jerryandjennie
    @jerryandjennie Před 8 měsíci +1

    Did you change the prop or did it run 21 mph on the 9.9 HP prop?

    • @Dark30Outdoors
      @Dark30Outdoors  Před 8 měsíci +1

      Yes, I have a 3 blade 10 pitch, but I know many run the stock 3 blade 9 pitch. With the stock 9 pitch blade the motor will run much closer to the rev limiter.

  • @tagoutcrew
    @tagoutcrew Před 2 lety +1

    Up next a super charger and a Bigfoot kit!!

  • @billjinkins4239
    @billjinkins4239 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Where did you get the parts to make the conversion? Thanks

  • @BertdeJ
    @BertdeJ Před 2 lety +2

    Still, something needs to be added. You now have the chance that the engine will overspeed and this requires another propeller with a higher pitch. this really brings the engine to higher speeds.

    • @Dark30Outdoors
      @Dark30Outdoors  Před 2 lety +1

      Lots of guys have run the stock 3 blade 9 pitch, but it will run the rpm close to max. I accidentally ordered a High Thrust which came with a 4 blade prop. I didn't realize that. So, I switched to a 3 blade 10 pitch prop and can run my 15 foot Spectrum wide open with no worries!

  • @donc2334
    @donc2334 Před 11 měsíci +1

    You mentioned that your 9.9 is 2021. So is mine, so because I see at least a few ECUs with different part numbers can you tell me which one you installed? For example 33930-89L20, or 33930-89L30, or 33930-89L40 ? The part#s for the flame arrestor and seal are straightforward. Thanks!

    • @Dark30Outdoors
      @Dark30Outdoors  Před 11 měsíci +1

      The part number that I ordered is: 33930-89L20

    • @donc2334
      @donc2334 Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@Dark30Outdoors My model has elect start, remote/non tiller, power tilt and is, I think, different than yours so I'm unsure whether a different ECU is required or not for those features. It's an expensive decision to get wrong if it cannot be returned. Maybe I need to locate a 2021 DF20 with same features as mine and figure out what ECU is installed. Or maybe I'll just do the 15hp upgrade using a bored out restrictor plate and leave it at that. Decisions decisions!!

    • @Dark30Outdoors
      @Dark30Outdoors  Před 11 měsíci

      @@donc2334 Okay, yeah mine is a tiller model. Not sure if it's different for one that is cable steer.

  • @glennjames7107
    @glennjames7107 Před 7 dny +1

    You need to re-prop, it will make a big difference in the fuel efficiency, and a good difference in increased top end.

  • @vault8827
    @vault8827 Před rokem +1

    Thanks for great guide! Does it work for 2022 models too?

    • @Dark30Outdoors
      @Dark30Outdoors  Před rokem +2

      No reason it wouldn't. It's the same exact motor except for those parts. Simplifies their manufacturing process.

    • @vault8827
      @vault8827 Před rokem

      @@Dark30Outdoors Thanks, i gonna give it a try!

    • @tonymclean1707
      @tonymclean1707 Před rokem

      @@vault8827 how did you go getting parts for the 2022?

  • @gerry7457
    @gerry7457 Před rokem +1

    Hi, Have you had any problems with the conversion? Thanks

  • @reeceandrewrh
    @reeceandrewrh Před 11 měsíci +1

    Ive got a 2006 yamaha 4 stroke f8cmh 197cc do you know what can be done to this to increase power? I know the newer f8 4stroke with the 212cc is the same as the 15hp counter part and think its just a carb and possibly ecm job on that one but i cant seem to find anything for the 197cc model other than 1 aftermarket carb kit to make it a 9.9

    • @reeceandrewrh
      @reeceandrewrh Před 11 měsíci +1

      The 15hp counter part to mine is supposed to be 323cc so its a fair bigger engine aswell

    • @Dark30Outdoors
      @Dark30Outdoors  Před 11 měsíci +1

      I really don't know much about the Yamaha motors.

  • @tristensoutdoors8183
    @tristensoutdoors8183 Před 2 lety +1

    I carbed up my 1974 65hp evinrude triumph to a 75hp I had to put a higher pitch prop on to get my rpms down to safe run level idk if you will have to do the same or not.

    • @Dark30Outdoors
      @Dark30Outdoors  Před 2 lety +2

      Yeah, I bought a new prop last year because it came with a HT 4 blade! YUCK!! So, I knew I would be doing this conversion. and a 9 pitch would have put me right at the red line. So, I went with the 10 which will keep me safely under the red line! Also, a great point!!

    • @donc2334
      @donc2334 Před 11 měsíci

      @@Dark30Outdoors What's the diameter?

  • @ryantoner3367
    @ryantoner3367 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Would this be the same ECU for a 9.9 that has controlls instead of a tiller motor? I was not able to find any info only manual and electric start. No mention of motors with controlls. Thanks!

    • @Dark30Outdoors
      @Dark30Outdoors  Před 11 měsíci +2

      I'm not sure. I would think they would be the same, but I don't know for sure. If you called an official parts dealer I'm sure they could tell if you if the part numbers are the same or different!

    • @ryantoner3367
      @ryantoner3367 Před 11 měsíci

      @@Dark30Outdoors thank you, I will look into that.

    • @gordonshumway4763
      @gordonshumway4763 Před 6 měsíci

      As an expert on these motors, I state that the control boxes for electric starters and manual starters are completely different hardware and software. You don't need to buy anything, you can flash your control box with the firmware from the 20 engine, the firmware is available online.

  • @joedirt9600
    @joedirt9600 Před 9 měsíci +1

    I have a 2021 Suzuki 9.9 and I am waiting for my warranty to expire, then I am doing this to mine. Parts are already on the shelf in the garage.

    • @Dark30Outdoors
      @Dark30Outdoors  Před 9 měsíci +1

      Sounds good!!

    • @gordonshumway4763
      @gordonshumway4763 Před 6 měsíci +3

      You don't have to wait, why should you have to wait? If you have a new control box with the firmware from the 20th motor, you can safely change it right now, no one will know about it. If the motor breaks, just put everything back in, you can wear gloves so you don't leave fingerprints.

  • @StevenSnellFLWA
    @StevenSnellFLWA Před rokem +1

    What model number and year is the 9.9 now converted to 20hp? Is there a range of years where this will work?

    • @Dark30Outdoors
      @Dark30Outdoors  Před rokem +1

      Mine is a 2021 and model # is DF9.9BTHL3. I'm not sure on a year range, but I've seen the conversion done on a 2018.

    • @SaltWaterBassTv
      @SaltWaterBassTv Před 9 měsíci

      I have dfa 9.9 can i do this

  • @ergediav
    @ergediav Před 3 měsíci +1

    Hello, I'm Eric from Chile, first thank you for sharing your experience with this improvement in your engine, and second, do you know if your ECM is for the electric starter motor? Because being a manual boot changes the code, do you know anything about that? Thank you so much

  • @sadsausage2224
    @sadsausage2224 Před 15 dny +1

    Hi, what year is your outboard? What years of outboards can you do this?

    • @Dark30Outdoors
      @Dark30Outdoors  Před 15 dny +2

      Mine is 2021. I believe it can be done every year that is 4 stroke with electric fuel injection.

  • @amasfriend4912
    @amasfriend4912 Před 2 lety +3

    The Reef Robber here on another channel getting you watch hours!

  • @jaylawvlogs264
    @jaylawvlogs264 Před 16 dny +1

    Other than getting around the boating laws. The price on a 9.9 hp is around 2400. A 20 hp is 28-2900.

    • @Dark30Outdoors
      @Dark30Outdoors  Před 16 dny +1

      Yeah, wasn’t a big money saver, but that wasn’t the point.

  • @pokyacongcodeipokya192
    @pokyacongcodeipokya192 Před rokem +1

    I want to ask about the 2 stroke Suzuki ??? what items are you buying ??? can you tell me ???

    • @Dark30Outdoors
      @Dark30Outdoors  Před rokem +1

      I don't have any experience with the 2 stroke Suzuki outboards.

  • @tonyacerra2329
    @tonyacerra2329 Před 20 dny +1

    What is the cost difference between a 10 and 20hp motor off the shelf?

    • @Dark30Outdoors
      @Dark30Outdoors  Před 20 dny +1

      Back then it was maybe $480 so u didn’t save a ton of money, but that’s not why I did it.

  • @ia6980
    @ia6980 Před 20 dny +1

    So latest 9.9 efi tohatsu outboard is at 84.9lb so by changing parts to 20hp it still remains at 84.9 lb ...which is nice because at stock 20hp tohatsu, weight of engine is at 104lb...so ur saving 15lb of weight. Question is, 15lb of weight, is it worth all the hassle? Or is it just better to buy 20hp outboard?......

    • @Dark30Outdoors
      @Dark30Outdoors  Před 20 dny +1

      I’m not familiar with the Tohatsu brand. On the Suzuki, they build their 9.9 and 20 exactly the same so both weigh the exact same.

  • @adengreekii4810
    @adengreekii4810 Před 9 dny +1

    Awesome 👌

  • @staceystrickland5302
    @staceystrickland5302 Před 11 měsíci +1

    What year(s) model of 9.9 is the upgrade compatible?

    • @Dark30Outdoors
      @Dark30Outdoors  Před 11 měsíci +1

      Mine is a 2021, but I think you can do this with any model that is 4 stroke and has EFI.

  • @benkanobe7500
    @benkanobe7500 Před 11 měsíci +1

    What can be done to the HONDA 8 HP 4 Stroke outboard?

    • @Dark30Outdoors
      @Dark30Outdoors  Před 11 měsíci +1

      Not sure. I don't have experience with Honda OB's.

  • @BenandSusanWebb
    @BenandSusanWebb Před 19 dny +1

    Wow, I wish I would’ve saw this two weeks ago. Just sold my nine horse and bought a 20 horse. Great video.

  • @kenganus8742
    @kenganus8742 Před 11 měsíci +1

    when changing the 9.9 to a 20 hp does the ECM for electric start and manual the same

    • @Dark30Outdoors
      @Dark30Outdoors  Před 11 měsíci +1

      I think so as it is just a control module for the fuel injection. You could as the parts supplier you order from to be sure.

    • @gordonshumway4763
      @gordonshumway4763 Před 6 měsíci

      As an expert on these motors, I state that the control boxes for electric starters and manual starters are completely different hardware and software. You don't need to buy anything, you can flash your control box with the firmware from the 20 engine, the firmware is available online.

  • @richardwernst
    @richardwernst Před 15 dny +1

    Just found this, but what year/model number is your motor and what other years are the same, or how to find out? Thanks.

    • @Dark30Outdoors
      @Dark30Outdoors  Před 15 dny +1

      Mine is a 2021. I’ll see if I can find the model number. Might be in my unboxing video for when I received it. I believe every year that they make that is electric fuel injection can be converted this way.

    • @richardwernst
      @richardwernst Před 15 dny

      @@Dark30Outdoors Thanks. Model number should be on a plate or something along with serial number, yes?

  • @F.A.R.T
    @F.A.R.T Před 2 lety +1

    this is good stuff. only if i have a boat. hope it helps someone.

  • @HypocriticYT
    @HypocriticYT Před 7 dny

    Older 2 strokes are great

  • @michaelreynolds1904
    @michaelreynolds1904 Před rokem +11

    But at what cost?

  • @tjm3900
    @tjm3900 Před 20 dny +1

    If bought new what would be the difference in retail price between a 10 and a 20 ?

    • @Dark30Outdoors
      @Dark30Outdoors  Před 20 dny +1

      Not sure. That wasn’t much of a factor for me.

  • @wheelieking3976
    @wheelieking3976 Před 2 lety +2

    That’s great what happens with the 5 year warranty when you’ve done this conversion ???

    • @Dark30Outdoors
      @Dark30Outdoors  Před 2 lety +2

      It does void the warranty. Frankly, there are OB out there running that are 30 years old. With proper maintenance and care, there is absolutely no reason this thing won't run like a champ for decades!!

    • @wheelieking3976
      @wheelieking3976 Před 2 lety +1

      Big risk to save 300 odd bucks in my opinion. Just buy the proper 20 Hp.

    • @Dark30Outdoors
      @Dark30Outdoors  Před 2 lety +3

      @@wheelieking3976 can't take a 20 hp motor on lakes restricted to 10 hp or less. They won't know with my conversion as it looks like a 9.9. Also, I don't see it as a risk at all.

    • @wheelieking3976
      @wheelieking3976 Před 2 lety

      @@Dark30Outdoors buy a 10 Hp decal and put it over the 20 Hp one.

    • @donc2334
      @donc2334 Před rokem

      @@wheelieking3976 what about if they inspect the VIN tag attached to the engine. That shows the manufactured HP etc

  • @ranger178
    @ranger178 Před 17 dny +1

    I wonder if i can upgrade my carburetor on 20hp mercury to get more hp

    • @Dark30Outdoors
      @Dark30Outdoors  Před 17 dny +1

      Not sure, but it’s worth looking into. 👍

    • @ranger178
      @ranger178 Před 16 dny +1

      @@Dark30Outdoors we have lakes limited to 20 hp and it is just short of getting boat up on plane to get decent speed with a few people in boat

  • @8AFilmz
    @8AFilmz Před rokem +1

    Do you think you could do the same to a Mercury 9.9?