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- Since 1992 six people have gone missing from a small area around Piha, New Zealand without a trace - those affected are calling for answers. Read more: bit.ly/2JNGTtX | Subscribe: bit.ly/2JPg8oB
Drowning, suicide and tragic accidents - all explanations given for the disappearances of six young people who vanished from the same small corner of Auckland’s west coast. But not everyone is so convinced.
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C mon stuff, you can do better. This was an almost 8 min piece without any information except that 6 people went missing, a woman being sad next to the cliff and Bob saying irrelevant things like "they're not overweight, they're not old, kinda handsome young people". Give us more details about the people, their circumstances of disappearance etc., why is the community so secretive etc.
Thank God, someone else has a rational brain here. May peace be upon you Mr or Ms Peppermint
It's all clickbait now.
We went away to Piha in March 2019 when Laurence Wu had just gone missing. A year later when I saw the news about Eloi Rolland, I immediately thought there's just no way! Somebody is hiding something out there.
he's spot on with that parking, we go out at least weekly on West coast and never ever left the cars unlocked. So why would all those people do that - it's bizarre.
They never did the person who abducted them was looking for souvenirs they took the keys
they were in the cars when their abductor got to them?
The fact that a trace is not FOUND does not mean that there is no trace THERE.
Agree. It may simply mean the search was not thorough. Not surprising considering the terrain. Steep cliffs, dense bush, rocky shores. They are there somewhere if they didn't become fish food. Perish the thought.
Its obvious there is serial killer around there. I remember that young nurse jogging never to be found . I always wonderd if she saw something at the hospital and was a target knowing she goes jogging and when .
I knew Kim. She was a classmate of mine during nursing school. I was shocked to find out she disappeared. She was going to start her job as a ED Nurse and she suspiciously vanished.
Unfortunately, she took her own life.
@@samsong24 ? what? i dont think thats true, our classmates didnt mention that to me
Police should investigate you for making that comment@@samsong24
Definately something sinister there I hope every family gets closure, too many missing there
Missing 411
It's so peaceful there. A handful of people playing with their dogs on the beach, people climbing Lion's Rock. And the community is so rural and quiet.
Thats the problem quite
There was a Man from Adelaide had been hiding for 18 years at Piha. He was deported back to South Australia for a murder .
do u know wot year he was deported ? thanks
Tell us more.
@KanyeKetchup the reason i asked if you knew what year he got deported is that around 40 years ago I & my housemates met some random dude that lived rough in the bush just off the beach at Piha. I cant remember when or which one of my housemates met him and brought him to our house in Western Springs. None of us liked him as he was dam weird not a nice person. I think to get rid of him without him hating on us(scary dude) (dam it i got the short straw) I cant remember if it was just me or if one of my housemates came with me when i took him out to Piha. Once there he must have insisted on showing us or just me his bush hut. i remember just wanting to get the fuk back to the car. Whenever I hear about these missing people he always pops into my mind. He was a sick fug. we never ever heard of him again, thank goodness🙌
@@RageAgainstTheMachine.scary sht
@@eloelo8726 yes he was scary in a very twisted evil way.
cheers friend.
Some of the locals know...how could they not? Sinister things happen out West in the Ranges and around the beaches.
Serial killer.
i am sure they know. But they don't speak up.
Exactly
A gang of people dealing drugs in piha would aggress people
I have watched a documentary on these
A young man Quentin would have been killed on a car accident by these people
They do...the hills have eyes out there...
Kept in bunkers ???? Kidnapped ?????? taken by a yacht?????
they cant just vanish
Yup so true.
Yes they can and did
theres a lot of bush to bury someone out there
No boat in that sea , too dangerous
@@mrivantchernegovski3869 i think the same
It’s trippy when I know 2 of the people personally Kim and Lawrence really weird feeling seeing their faces and names here.
wow thats freaky sorry to hear that
That place is a death trap, as beautiful as it is
In my opinion..... If someone is responsible for even half of these missing people they would have to be hanging around or working around or living around the area for the opportunities to both come up and to be able to execute (the abduction) so seamlessly. So in that case others who frequent the area may have suspicions on who that person could be. Suspicions, a feeling, a gut instinct that they should trust in themselves and talk to this guy in the video about it. (sorry I'm not from Auckland I kind of recognise "the guy in the video" but can't remember his name) It affects a lot of lives when someone appears to have vanished, but people can't just vanish..
I spent a LOT of my adult life overseas and have performed several government sanctioned "abductions" and there is NO SUCH THING as a "seamless abduction" even when trained men who've done it many times are working in concert together. And having trained at Joint Base Lewis-McChord and "they" are out there. I've heard of them in several countries, even Afghanistan. and the story is ALWAYS the same - mountainous or hilly area, or wildlife preserve and people go missing without a trace.
@@marcoslaureano5562 JBLM is a huge base, one of the biggest military bases in the world so it's unlikely we met, but I have a feeling I know who you are. I was at Lewis Main in 2013 and at Yakima in 2017.
Over a 25 year period. Doubtful considering the backstories tell us one was last seen on the track drinking from a wine bottle. Another 10 years or so earlier walking toward the water naked at 1.30am. One went to commit suicide changed his mind went home and went missing 6 weeks later but not from piha
@@marcoslaureano5562 true that, so are you saying therefore, they have not wanted to be found perhaps and that that is the best place for it if so?
@@emmasanders6226 the one walking half naked... She was on the road up the hill, there's quite a distance to the beach from there. You can theoretically "walk towards the water" from the other side of NZ as well. Also, she called Police multiple times from the road, saying that she is in trouble and very concerned about her safety, and police never showed up.
The serial killer sold his house 18 months ago, he lived on glenesk road in a small black house, check the garden
john- he perhaps flew off too get lost in Australia.
Put some cameras out on the tracks
These beautiful young people are being kidnapped by a local. It’s like Wolfcreek
unfortunately you cant expect the NZ police to assign any officers to the case.
lack of resources, lack of man power, Auckland police have their hands full already and local cops wont waste too much time on this case because they have NO idea..
now. NZ crimes unit, missing persons divisions might now have this case on their desk.
how many people in that taste force? how many missing case files do they have?
how many people are assigned to the Piha case? how many cases does that small team have as well as the piha case? I have no idea.. but im sure its not 10 detectives spending 40 hours a week soley on the PIHA missing cases.. I have no idea how many people and how many hours a week, a month are spent on this case..
so.. what could have happened?
1: they jumped... they climbed over the railing, got far to the edge as possible and just jumped. or they jumped from elsewhere, not where Sir Bob was standing..
like the life guard said, maybe all 6 of them sliced their torsos going down which kept their bodies under water and they just got ripped out into sea and became shark food.
all 6 of them.. yes unlikely but probable...
(how many suicides have taken place at Piha over the past 30 years?)
how many jumped into the ocean and bodies were recovered?
did anyone jump, someone saw them jump, and their bodies were never recovered?
yes, no trace of jumping, no shoe, no blood, no piece of clothing on a tree..
mystery yes, but missing cases are always a mystery.
maybe the police are looking at the wrong jump point..
2. they ran away... ( they just wanted to be alone )
this happens.. rememeber Olivia newtown jones husbands , he was never found and most believe he is alive and just wants to be left alone so he faked his own death etc,
thats just an example.. meaning.. PEOPLE do it. who knows why they do,, they just do..
3. murder...
ok, so lets say they were murdered.. its most likely its the same person.
of course it could be all random events, sperate killers under different situations and for different individual reasons which just all happened to take place at Piha.,.
maybe a preferred location for murdering people, contract hits, the same killers are hired and they follow suspects to that location and kidnap them there and kill them..
criminals are stupid and creatures of habit..
unlikely it was 6 different killers, 6 contract kills...
so lets assume its a serial killer...
now.. what kind of killer are we dealing with here?
1st. a killer who hasnt got gender preference .. he will kidnap woman and men.
now because we dont have any bodies we dont know if he rapes them or not..
2nd. we have a killer who kidnaps adults.. not children.. adults who can run, fight, scream and put up a struggle.. a killer would have to come from behind them unknowing to them and use some sort of chemical over a rag or something to put them to sleep and then he drags them into the car without anyone seeing a thing.. (maybe he did it 2 or 3 times before so feels comfortable with this tactic) or.. he coercers them into the vehicle offering them drugs, booze or friendship? so the people just get into the car with no fuss.. then who knows what happens...
but all that seems straight of of TED BUNDYS hand book..
I think.. all these 6 people probably had some kind of mental illness
( keep in mind, I have just watched this video and did a quick google search,, so I dont know about the 6 people)
but im assuming they had mental problems first.. drugs were probably involved too..
lethal combination of drugs and mental illness..
they jumped off the cliffs, bodies never found... the ocean just swallowed them up...
didnt a girt go missing abt 15yrs ago from there ? she rung police but they had no cars so rung a taxi for her ... she banged on a ladys house in distress inher underwear , young woman , but took of before police or taxi got there ... never seen again .. sure was Piha .. always thought must beensomeone listening to a police scanner ...
She was last seen walking toward the water naked at 1.30am. Coroner ruled it a drowning
Me and Tony milicich were on the case for the reward but we failed too find her body or any evidence
@@emmasanders6226 dont think anybody saw her actually walking towards water .. that was the coroners ruling though from evidence pointing to that .. personly i think theres as much of a chance she didnt drown ,, .. theres a pattern ..
@@seanodwyer4322 you from up there ? alot of the drowning bodies get found up there ( but obviously some dont ) .. do you know if anybody actually saw her near the water ? ..
@@sebatianalvarado7171 In that area there certainly is, I agree.
I've been to Piha once in my life as a little girl and I'm glad, I never want to go there now.
@Solar wizard a creepy aura tbh
@@Youarelight19 have you heard of David paulides ? Briefly speaking there's a giant looking bigfoot that can be invisible , it can make you daydream or sleep and make you confused , I'm talking about if you walk one way it can make you walk more deeper into the forest
@@3rdleg151 i mean I went camping n someone went to take a shit n they thought they'd been gone for 20mins n didn't realise they were lost til someone else found them n we told him he's been gone for 2 bloody days. he was confused asf.
@@3rdleg151 u know whats weird? is ur name being 3rd Leg, does it mean ur the third leg of the victim walking into the forest... the invisible bigfoot walking for them, guiding their confused state.
Maybe he reading these comments and watching these videos
My grandpa purchased a bed and breakfast here many years ago and I visited once as a kid and it was pretty cool. Other than a strange full body rash I got after swimming in the water here
I did a lot of really splendid hiking there, always on my own. Frankly , being a woman I've been more scared to use the shower facility on the camping ground in the dark than I was worried about being alone in those marvellous forests around Piha.
An interesting comment. A strange composition of a comment, though interesting none the less.
Sounds to me like you're describing a fantasy
Gawd, that's so terrible, we had no idea this sort thing happened out there - missed any media, but the point is truly - what the heck happened?
I am ASHAMND ti be a kiwi ,i dnt live far from piha How dare the nz police not ever take this Serious too busy backing down to gang members ,how dare they dismiss this .!? There a some Goid that i knw but come how could you not take a police call serious weather it Is or Not at least you can sleep at night Knowing yoy did EVERYTHING possible at the end of that call .Professionals from overseas need to be Brought in to seal all of this Weirdness that has and still Is Going on at piha ! No wonder Folj take matters onto their hands when there is no Trust in the System
A camera hiding in the carpark , if there is only one road in then a camera looking at the road would see everything,, !!!!
Perhaps these happened in others places
really this is stupid there is a serial killer out there, and i like opinions please, i feel that the french boy is also and was also with hoddie up andthe skinny way he was maybe someone mistook him for female and he is part of this saga. shit lets catch him
My grandpas x wife used to live here and she was crazy as possible and should be investigated
You should notify the police and families of the missings
That place creeps me out
In Piha, police teams, administrative offices and equipment should be strengthened, given the large number of disturbing disappearances.
There is someone in the greater Auckland area that is either a serial killer or kidnapper/killer..given the population and the upward spiral of crime in NZ..
it wil be that bold part maori- ''kerry fabling''- he extreme Bold in his crimes. - been at it for 50 years now. - ahh suspect he murdered that Japan lady as He loved too steal and collect passports and hers was missing.
Piha and waitakere rangers are a cursed place! There’s some strange stuff that goes on up there.
Bob Harvey's cool but I think he's not appreciating the stats. Piha is a scenic, remote place, pretty close to a city of 1.5 million people at least. Probably half a million camper / tourists would go to Piha each year pre covid. 6 mystery deaths with no trace of victims in 25 years? What's surprising about it is there aren't more.
number 1 suspect is part maori serial bold criminal - Kerry Fabling.- @@@ Fraud/ Stealing peoples identitys and other- State has put a $ 7,000,000 bounty on his deadly head. - iff you find/ catch/ convict him then collect reward from Private detective- Sean O'Dwyer.- Number 136- 140 Hobson street.- Auckland city. 1010. - new zealand.- South pacific.''
Breaks my heart 🇬🇧👵🙏
In the water … you “think” you would find something but odds are you won’t … currents, tides and then sharks .. example in Sydney a spot where they viewed camera of a woman going over the rail then down to the water actually knew she went in there … nothing was found for years but a “possible shoe” some 150km away
Yeah. but the life guard thinks he knows based on his experience. Yet there is many hundreds of cases like the one you mention that prove the exact opposite of what he claims to know. Giving families false hope or a reason to point the finger at foul play
I live in these area,it doesn't make sense,it's like a Alien aduction
I did not know about this, so glad i clicked on it! Always just assume drowning out there 💔💔💔
It's so beautiful there! I agree....it's probably going to happen again. I would be setting up secret cams if it were allowed. That sucks.
if you go for a late day or night swim at the north end the rip will take you far far out
You're probably right lol you gotta be careful where you swim at piha in the day, let alone the night with no visibility.
Okay so that was a bit of a gaffe / rude : "they are not overweight, they are not elderly..they are young...kind of handsome beautiful people " like overweight elderly people are what ? ugly ? 🤔 I do not know of these people missing ...how bizarre!
Nah yeah this is an example of human habit - returning back to the place they 'know'. And I know this place at night, it's fucken scary 🥴 you can't see anything, it's pitch black. They'd have to wear night vision tbh and I'm being serious 👐 a normal flashlight isn't very clear, it's like the night is dense. Don't know how to explain it but the light only showed what was directly in front of me 🙂
First and LAST experience going there to watch the sunset. Never again zz
ahh was on scenic drive with martin lush 7 years ago when criminal Kerry Fabling tryed too rob us with a hand gun with a silencer on it. - He was too fast a runner for me too catch, and hopeless police still have not caught him.''''
To many people are missing in new zealand... It shocks me..but makes me wonder if someone least expected is behind the disappearance of these people...
Suicide had enough with life wanted 2 dissappear for good no trace no evidence r.i.p or someone's lurking around knows the place to good ins and outs gotta be a local someone's keeping quiet in piha
Beautifully said and absolutely correct!
6 over a period of 25 years. One went to end his life, changed his mind. Taxied home and went missing 6 weeks later but not from Piha. Another lady was last seen walking the track drinking out of a wine bottle never to be seen again. Car was open and belongings still in it. Next lady 5 years later car was also found unlocked and belongings still in the car. Another lady in the 90s was last seen walking toward the water naked at 1.30am. There are back stories to the missing. This video gives zero information
I used to like Piha, not so sure now but westie is still bestie.
Fantastic to see Bob Harvey ..mark hill
Someone living in piha must of seen the guy or guys hed be the black sheep of the village how has he evaded for so long high position of power?
it's Kerry Fabling- contact police and Mason Clinic about him
@@seanodwyer4322I've heard that name dropped in the comments before on some of these videos very interesting and I'm guessing if you try go against him youl be threatened and have things go wrong for you that's the impression I got from someone in the piha missing persons FB groupe who was describing a character matching his description.
He's right. They were abducted from the car park so that time would be wasted searching that area.
There's alot of sicko's out west.
Beautifully said and absolutely correct. And I thought South Auckland was bad. A few years ago a friend of mine commented on West Auckland having NZ's most Psycho-Killers...I thought it was a strange remark for him to make at that time. A woman had not long been found in the Waitakere Ranges at that time, just off the pathway. She had been raped and strangled. CHILLS MAN.
@@phoenixkb134 - Kerry fabling/ Martin Lush/ Anthoney Milicich too name a few.''
@@phoenixkb134 Why are the police doing little or nothing given the number of disappearances?
I ved there for 5yrs... 3yrs on the beach front, sth end and a couple by the dairy's., Years ago... Piha has magical wairua, but with all the the death is seen from old tild to now, the wairua can make u go nuts if u don't have the strength.... .the main problems we had were townies from auck.... But there were one or to local who were alittle off... You also need to remember the amount of weed that I grown is huge..... We were always told there were body's buried every where, so who knows ... Ask no ??? Get told no lies... garanteed some there knows something..... Including the guy who used to look in women's windows, or grab the....I remember..jah bless
That's right usually for greed
that girl who rung the police , who then rung a taxi for her, and she went to some ladies house then left to be never seen again ,maybe 15yrs ago ... somebody up there got her , and must been listening to police scanner id say ...
@@sebatianalvarado7171 yeah me and Anthony Ivo Milicich went lookin for her but failed. - A part Maori by the name off - Kerry Fabling was allways a suspect off interest in all these missin female cases butt they fail too catch him as he too crafty and fast
If they were growing and smoking that would make them appear off. However, that does not make them automatically suspects..This video gives no background information therefore speculating is futile. If they were victims of foul play, usually the closest to them become persons of interest. But because its a missing persons case, police may have not done their due diligence.
@@seanodwyer4322 Person of interest according to whom? Police don't give out that information. Naming people can be very damaging if they're innocent.
I won’t go bush walking on my own out there anymore. Too many weirdo guys with knives.
Sir Bob Harvey makes sense 👍
I would be suspicious of a Person who knows the track
Preying on vulnerable trekkers for , killing?
This would be my first hunch , human interference in Missing People
Not accidental at all .
So sorry for Mother I hope you get closure 🙏 ❤
Well people have just literally vanished.
I believe it will happen again. The poor poor families of these missing people.😥 I have just remembered something that happened to me and my partner. Around a similar time to the last disappearance. I didnt think there would be any connection but now think maybe it might be. We went to piha to camp in our van at the te ahu ahu carpark. We parked by the mast that was there and not long after another couple in a van drove up to us and told us to get out of their spot. We told them it was free for all and they couldnt claim it as theirs. They said that's where they always park. The guy was aggressive. They let there dog out and sicked it onto us. We moved off and got out of there down to the beach. This guy was obviously a regular and could be a clue. Certainly aggressive. Maybe I'm stabbing in the dark. I had forgotten this incident until now.
Monique- me and Anthony Ivo Millicich went out too the Piha spots too try too find the missing ladys as we were working for the police at the time and were trying too claim rewards out for the missing peoples. Butt we failed too get any clues or bodys.
Endt- whole nation has these animals runnin loose.- Glad when police shoot them now and again
@@seanodwyer4322 what have you done with Them? Do the right thing and hand yourself in.
@@Chris-eq3en Did our best and also tryed with hamish Sigley too find out who the hell murdered the japanese girl in Queen Street.- well at least our team tryed .- only suspect we have is part-maori- '''Kerry Fabling'' who for 40 years around Auckland City steals female underpants and hoards them all in huts in the Waitakere's ranges/ hills/ mountains- etc. etc. N.B.B.- ''Thank you for your extreme humble concerns.
Get a dash cam, especially if you visit this area
I´m from France. There is something very mysterious about Piha. It´s like a Bermuda Piha. The last time I was in Piha I was sitting on the beach having a feed and I was holding a banana that was bent to the left. All of a sudden it bent to the right. Was that the maori spirits?
How odd the turning banana story !, that’s the second time I’ve heard it but I suspect there’s more 🤣
@@cassiereid6646 I´m just being a real idiot🤣 Nothing else better to do.
@@user-oh4yd5uh4e Have you heard of Monica Cantwell? Disappeared upon embarking on climbing mount maunganui? As it turned out she was murdered . I know a lot about that incident that nobody else does but to make a long story short - it was there that the patuparaiahe, Maori faeries saved my life. I’ve had other interactions with them, utterly fascinating, Precious sacred❤️
Has kelvin Cruikshank been there ?? Medium
Perhaps it’s some kind of human Trafficing.
Let's hope so
Tunnels under ground, human trafficking.
If Aussie PM Harold Holt can dissapear swimming at sea and never be found back in 1967. Anything is possible.
The road is too close to the cliff rdge it needs to be moved back a bit.
The road ends hundreds of metres from the lookout.
Nah dont touch the road except for maintenence. Its the wild west, the geograpical danger goes hand in hand with the raw beauty of the rugged west coast. Like any natural beauty there is an element of risk....use caution.
@@deanincognito9452 Agree and most people know how to stay within the safety zones. Only the adrenaline junkies or selfie inflluencers will breach the safety zones
The road is not so closed.
You have this impression watching the cost by a plane, but you don t have the scale and the place is so large.
@@emmasanders6226 a selfie in dark night ?
Nefarious goings-on in piha 🤔
Stopped watching when the woman said "shes not in the water because we would have found her"
She´s not in the sky either because we would have found her.
Something or someone is responsible 😳
Predators will be watching these spaces very carefully. Without a doubt.
People are afraid to disclose its a huge barrier especially when Police are not piecing together proper investigations. Given that people actually have a right to stay out of harms way.
Doubtful. It's too out of the way. Locals know when you breathe the wrong way
@@alvinaryder3625 Police can sometimes get lazy. Especially in treacherous and inaccessible terrain. The K9s would not make it down those cliffs safely
French guy gone missing recently felt very sorry for the parents I no piha beach very Dangerous for swimming not that I'm saying the water did it
He never went missing from Piha. He went there to end his life, changed his mind, caught a ride home then went missing 6 weeks later
mel- Kerry fabling got him
Why did Eloi want to go to piha beach ?
It is said in the documentary that he wanted to collect black sand on the beach to bring it home to his mom, as he had decided to leave NZ very soon
@@seanodwyer4322tell me what you know. Since your commenting on everything.. what do you know you weirdo
@@Uerror40922 as ahh workin 24/7 and zero time too tell you here just post me at my Detective office- Post address- = Detective Sean O'Dwyer- Number 136- 140 Hobson Street.- Auckland City. - 1010. - New Zealand.- South pacific.''
There is somebody high that can see people on the beach.
They could be link
Human trafficking, so very sad.
Sea life predation also prevents gas bloating.
So it’s never a group of people. clearly suicide. All you do is get over the rails and pass the bush. I always walk there causes its really cool.
There is an underbelly that operates in that area, but I guess unless you were involved in those circles, it would be odd for them to go missing that way.
The undercurrents will suck you all the way out to peru!
Missing 411 ca-am missing project
Yes are you from new Zealand??? This is scary scary stuff
Omg I thought the same. Needa get David Pallides on this one.
exactly what i thought ...didnt a girl go missing from there about 15yrs agowho rung the police , they had no cars so sent a faxi for her ... she went banged onsome ladies house and was in her underwear , but she left before taxi got there ... she was never seen again .. and she was a beautiful looking girl .. somethings going on there , i think the girl case , whoever grabbed her was a police scanner listener ...
Did someone contact the Project? I hope so..
What is that?
Missing 411
God sees all cant hide nothing from him judgment day is coming, admit to the crimes hand yourself in .
Sean O'Dwyer- 140 Hobson Street.- Auckland City. 1010. New Zealand.'
These missing people have MUCH in common with the 'Missing 411 Project' material from David Paulides: www.youtube.com/@canammissingproject
Paulides has NZ cases in his work also, for example the Emma Campbell case in the Chch Port Hills, and that poor wee lad Lachie on the West Coast. I HIGHLY recommend those with a burning desire for answers to research these cases and the commonalities between them. He also has books and movies on the subject. Truth is stranger than fiction.
It's gorgeous there
my- for a nutter.''
@@seanodwyer4322 🤣🤣🤣
Tapu
Aka Conspiracy theorist
Oml sad
Is this an old documentary? Why the hype now?
Body snatcher
🤐
Bring Psychics in
Perhaps they just decided to disappear and start a knew life
They gone into a cult
Annoys me when people say 'they don't believe in Pyschics'! Well that's fine but the search isn't about you or me! It's about a MISSING LOVED ONE/S! 😇😇
Maybe sensing murder
Sensing bullshit!
They have never solved a case!
They don't sense shit
@@lisabarker1784 Yes, because they never have evidence. They can describe the person even name them but without evidence it's useless
@@emmasanders6226 they have never come up with any information that wasn't already known that's straight out the fact on the 'sensing' matter. The programme, however, brings old (cold) cases back into people's thoughts and conversations, I guess with the hope that people in the know may now (due to fallings out, separations, divorce or even people they feared passing away) "May now be Willing to Talk" that's what the programme should really be called!
is there a PIHA PARIAH that no one has considered !!!!!
Traces of blood and clothing would be found on the cliff face as it would not be a clear fall. Abseiling forensics should've checked for that too. I don't know. Perhaps they did.
This doesnt surprise me at all NZ is dark i remember a skeleton found chained to a tree
Where?
New Zealand can be unforgiving to anyone, she is fair in the sense of anything bad can happen to anyone, it's just a matter of time and place
@@Lara-234 Do not go too the Auckland City domain where the war museum is as a Maori tribe was eaten there 200 years ago.- could be spooks there. Ironic they have a statue off naked man there that my Tahiti girl-friend swooned over.''
🤣🤣🤣
@@seanodwyer4322 lol