Körber History Forum 2018: Türkischer Neo-Osmanismus und seine Folgen für Europa

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  • čas přidán 31. 05. 2018
  • Welche Bedeutung haben das Osmanische Imperium und seine Geschichte für die Türkei heute? Das thematisierten die türkischen Historiker İlber Ortaylı und Abdulhamit Kırmızı, der Direktor des Middle East Centre am Oxforder St. Antony’s College Eugene Rogan und der frühere türkische Politiker und Parlamentarier Suat Kınıklıoğlu vom Institute for Security and Development Policy in Stockholm. Es moderierte Almut Wieland-Karimi, Direktorin des Zentrums für Internationale Friedenseinsätze in Berlin. In Zusammenarbeit mit der Gerda Henkel Stiftung.

Komentáře • 45

  • @fi4638
    @fi4638 Před 2 lety +67

    Prof Mr.Ilber ORTAYLI is the most intelligent person I ever met listen in panels. Turkey is very luck to have this kind of academician.

  • @bilgekaanmetehan6632
    @bilgekaanmetehan6632 Před 4 lety +88

    Prof. Ilber Ortayli is a giant living library! Love hin!

  • @dirensare
    @dirensare Před 5 lety +97

    Ortayli.... A living legend

  • @ulkersalci1890
    @ulkersalci1890 Před 2 lety +18

    Yes Mr İlber Ortaylı...we are proud of you . Thank you been in here.

  • @Kult58
    @Kult58 Před 2 lety +25

    Ilber Ortayli - eine Legende!

  • @bisusarmsn1431
    @bisusarmsn1431 Před 5 lety +119

    I wish the moderator were more respectful and stop giving eye to people like a kid making fun of a teacher. That is Professor Ortaylı and that is his style. He is pure academician so unless you are there to respectfully listen to whatever he has to say please do not engage his time cause here we are looking forward to his speeches, and every word of it and in his unique style. Also, please stop waving your hand to his face. Conflict management must have taken away a lot of your refinement, I think.

    • @abbaslcherchie5456
      @abbaslcherchie5456 Před 2 lety +8

      She is German this is normal for them

    • @Cck883
      @Cck883 Před 2 lety +3

      Although I’m a big fan of Ilber hoca, let’s confess that his way of narrative isn’t appropriate for this forum. When asked a certain question he talks about many different topics,always giving information in pieces skipping from one theme to another. I totally understand his genius, how much historical knowledge he has so he would talk years about any question to the point of getting too far from main topic.))) However,it would be really beneficial if he answered in more generalised way,keeping the answers structured so that everyone can get the issue.

  • @serhan3636ify
    @serhan3636ify Před 2 lety +24

    Who is the Moderator? She is very disrpectful..

  • @alpinotti01
    @alpinotti01 Před 2 lety +9

    Prof.Dr.İlber ORTAYLI magnificent.

  • @mfd2125
    @mfd2125 Před 4 lety +36

    Adam ingilizceyi de aynı hızda konuşuyor😁

  • @apogokturk7413
    @apogokturk7413 Před 6 lety +37

    Ilber Ortayli 😍😍😍

  • @MartinAmbrosiusHackl
    @MartinAmbrosiusHackl Před 6 lety +47

    I'd say it's pity, that the title of this video is in German, as well as the description; the language of the discussion is English , though. This might reduce the number of viewers very much, since people from the English speaking world might not open the video expecting a panel in German, while German speakers who are not able to follow the English discussion might be disappointed, too. :/

  • @DrMeti-tm6qp
    @DrMeti-tm6qp Před 4 lety +22

    Ilber Ortayli beste Mann 😎😎👍👍

  • @talhayasin99
    @talhayasin99 Před 5 lety +37

    The asking woman does not understand that you need to know historical facts and processes of happenings to fully understand the mindset and thoughts of one nations people. Ilber Ortayli tries to explain under historical background but the moderator often interrupts.

    • @resitsahin7787
      @resitsahin7787 Před 3 lety

      She was a great moderator and knows west and east.

    • @murataltnok9479
      @murataltnok9479 Před 2 lety

      @@resitsahin7787 the moderator only biased and ignorant

  • @od9991
    @od9991 Před 2 lety +7

    Such a bad moderator!! If you take many minutes to ask a super hard question including framing and 3-5 sub questions. How can you expect to have an answer less than 3 minutes!?

  • @YY-ug9mv
    @YY-ug9mv Před 4 lety +10

    Konuklardan kalite fışkırıyor.

  • @mango-5424
    @mango-5424 Před 2 lety +2

    Did you hear the clap at somewhere between 1:06:28 and 1:06.29?
    I would have totally joined them for a full blown applause!

  • @kbrklc4255
    @kbrklc4255 Před 2 lety +7

    İlber Ortaylı 📚

  • @mede938
    @mede938 Před 2 lety +6

    33:22 unsere diplomaten sind keine idioten , aber ich kann nicht garantieren dass jeder Journalist nicht einer ist.

  • @Plutto-67
    @Plutto-67 Před 2 lety +4

    Erst Leute muss wissen dieses frau und ihre Stiftung nicht neutral, und wie sie sehen unhöflich,respektlos voll mit Vorurteilen und natürlich Ortaylı gegen so eine (Neo Osmanlı concept)wenn einer wie herr Ortaylı gegen ihre Denkweise spricht dann o la la!!!!Danke Herr Ortaylı sie sind die Best!!!

  • @cloneeja
    @cloneeja Před 2 lety +4

    Hungarian Transilvaina was a golden place for free belive. Like protestans and Jews in 16.-17. Centuries. I proud with my ancestors, their rules and their acts in history.

  • @Alican-hi9lj
    @Alican-hi9lj Před 4 lety +2

    WO ist Deutche und Turkischer Deucumente?

  • @YY-ug9mv
    @YY-ug9mv Před 4 lety +5

    I wonder what Mr.Ortaylı asked her,she should have accepted the question as a good will gesture at the end but she was being sneaky&maybe she didnt had a good answer so people cant see.

  • @teomanmetehan7469
    @teomanmetehan7469 Před 5 lety +5

    Ilber Ortayli rulez.

  • @furkankaraman8863
    @furkankaraman8863 Před rokem +2

    Moderator war sehr schlecht. Wir können nicht ilber Ortayli hören, weil sie immer besser wisst.

  • @nauy9455
    @nauy9455 Před 4 lety +5

    Alt yazi.. germen. Türkish.. please

  • @Plutto-67
    @Plutto-67 Před 2 lety +3

    Erst Leute muss wissen dieses frau und ihre Stiftung nicht neutral, und wie sie sehen unhöflich,respektlos voll mit Vorurteilen!!!!!

  • @ET-zw4pk
    @ET-zw4pk Před rokem

    Great, they simply ignoring the dump questions of the Lady and giving real information. Thanks! Kırmızı, sorry no academic class at all.

  • @bisusarmsn1431
    @bisusarmsn1431 Před 5 lety +12

    Having to listen to the moderator’s English is bad enough.. and we have to watch her manners 🙄 or lack thereof..

  • @sonerozdemir5251
    @sonerozdemir5251 Před 4 lety +1

    Is this the life we realy want..? - Roger Waters

  • @levocan4444
    @levocan4444 Před 3 lety +3

    Long live Kemalism 🇹🇷❤

  • @ramy3103
    @ramy3103 Před 4 lety +3

    The elephant in the room has been forgotten and if this elephant will be the ignored in the future, it will grow up and it will became the mammoth, unfortunately the people can get hurt by this situation. So do not ignore the elephant like before happend. And this was not a healty conversation.

    • @idrisatesci
      @idrisatesci Před 2 lety +2

      The metaphor that has been made you "proud" will never ever is going to happen. You are very much be wellcomed if you wanna work and earn our life honestly be a part of the society. No problems with the Kurdish oriented citizens of Turkey. Turkey is colorful multicultural, multioriented Republic. You have no speciality to demand a single cluster of soil from Turkey. Turkey can feed all of us peacefully. If yor are not interested then it is your choise what else can be said.
      Note: mammoths are extincted by mother nature if you know the means