CNN called this a heated debate when this is really quite a boring one compared to how the usually are. Ik I'm 5 years late but look up MPs behaving badly and watch them for a laugh
The chamber was specifically designed to be cramped and adversarial, which is why loads of MPs have to stand, because there's not enough seats for all 650 members. Both sides of the house are baying down on each other which puts MPs under pressure when speaking. When there's really important debates on, it adds to the drama of the occasion.
Yeah. The openness of the debates, and the fact that the Prime minister has to regularly get his/her hands dirty by engaging in debate with other people just feels like a healthier democratic process.
couldn't have said it better myself. I posted one of these videos on Facebook and no likes from all my clown american FB friends. wonderful stuff here. actually worth watching rather than put you to sleep like cspan
one of my wishes is to have a British friend. everyone I know is American or Mexican but nothing is as cool as meeting someone who speaks English..... 😀😀
Sarin gas is worse though, because it doesn't target accurately. It kills large amounts of innocents. It's almost designed to kill innocents. And the irony is that Sarin gas doesn't kill immediately like a cruise missile. It puts the victim in a prolonged state of extreme suffering.
I'm an American, and proud of our country. I watch British Parliament here on CZcams for many reasons. First, I am astounded with how polite and proper they are, and how organized they seem to be. They have qualities we could do well to emulate. Secondly, I watch them to learn about ourselves - contrast yields perspective.
The problem in the US is we're constantly hearing about politics, we're constantly talking about politics, but we're not seeing these sort of debates and votes in the legislature that actually make a difference. If congress was like this, I think a hell of a lot more people would be watching CSPAN.
Ramza Beoulve Yeah, that gave me a little chill actually. I wish war action was debated so openly in the US, instead of the behind the scenes decision making we have. Compared to the US, it feels like the British parliamentary system is so much more open and healthy.
That's not the point. We're talking about governments' proposed actions that have not come to pass and should depend on a democratic vote, not what has already happened. However, it is worth noting that both of the examples you mentioned were not actions of a democratic government, and instead to use your own words came from 'a leader that excercised his judgement and took an absolute position on the matter'. In fact, your post just strengthened my argument.
High taxes in particular labour taxes to match low inflation will be imperative. How will the returning services sector folk cope with it? I'll say high taxes is when folks have flocked in. Cose it doesn't last. But u will need it
Fair enough, I take your point, but disregarding propanganda is easier said than done. Unfortunately educating yourself does not work as well as it might since most books are written with a bias to a certain extent.
Well now their is no debate we know it was the rebels that used chemical weapons. Why are the British parliament not disusing attacking the rebels? How come the regime is not allowed to use chemicals but the rebels who were covertly armed with Libyan weapons by Britain and America are allowed to use them.
With all these Talking Points & Debate. When will the Justice be done? When will the Culprits will be taken in front of Jury ? & When will the Victims can Rest In Peace. Is in God's Hand Now ?
The use of Chemical Weapons does not take into account civilians at all, whereas guns do (to some extent, though civilian killings do occur with guns too)
Finally our government debates something worthy instead of the jam debate or the debate about the TV debate. Good jobs guys, you finally seem worth the amount we the British tax payers pay you.
+Molly Kymberley Greenwood and if you don't pay them so you won't be able to even get job, so never think about the tax you pay, you are helping yourself, not them!!
aattitude I was thinking the same thing. Saying "there are evidences" or "it's right in front of our eyes" means nothing. Show some dates, studies, test results, scientific proofs, pictures of victims... anything really. Reminds me of that whole: "they have weapons of mass destruction" US-Iraq fiasco.
2:38 That's like a Robot Chicken skit XD also, what the hell? of course there's a difference Oh, jeez, do I want to die in seconds while bleeding out of my lost limbs and with shrapnel all over me? Or will I settle for dying in minutes, with an immense burning feeling on all my surface and in every orifice, and slowly panting for breath while i cough up the rest of my liquified lungs. what was this guy's point, anyway?
I'm sorry but that guy at the end has no idea what he's taking about. Clearly getting killed by a cruise missile would be a very quick death if not instantly. Getting killed by chemical gas would be a long and horrible death and is extremely inhumane not to mention the fact that this is proven throughout history that this is a very inhumane death to the point that countries have banned the use of chemical weapons for this exact reason. So in conclusion his argument is invalid and has no fucking idea what he's talking about.
i get it but when there is a war crime which was banned the world over after World War 1.. its basically breaking the law only on a global scale and it merits a response by a countries that wish to uphold laws
What is your headache about the gas whereas people are dieing during the migration from Africa to Europe which is made by some of the worlds developed countries.Which not only make the African people sufferer but now also the European people.During Gaddafi and Saddam regime at least the innocent children were not died during crossing the river anyhow everyone has to pay for culprit activity and will be rewarded for the good deeds.For instance Jews paid in German and the American enjoy the fruits of Lion's job.
I remember back in these days, thinking Britain was being stupid AF for sending weapons to extremist groups who would kill westerners if they had the chance. Then ISIS happened, and I was like “Well fuck, these guys are way worse”. What’s my point? I have none... I just remember my thoughts on all of this just before ISIS.
The US congress goes out its way to be boring as hell, this is what I like to see. Brits put more effort in.
boring or not, ppl get killed when NATO interferes!!!
CNN called this a heated debate when this is really quite a boring one compared to how the usually are. Ik I'm 5 years late but look up MPs behaving badly and watch them for a laugh
Huh shame we can't put the effort in putting UK first before other citizens....
This comment did not age well...
Michael Greenhalgh Congress is still boring, what do you mean?
I think their parliament needs a bigger room.
Yeah
Traditions and all that.
Yeah its to look like a full round table with opinions i think. im not British but it is tradition i do believe he who know please tell me
The chamber was specifically designed to be cramped and adversarial, which is why loads of MPs have to stand, because there's not enough seats for all 650 members. Both sides of the house are baying down on each other which puts MPs under pressure when speaking. When there's really important debates on, it adds to the drama of the occasion.
@@QRAndrew Woah
I agree with this quote from the late great Robin Williams "I love Parliament, it's like Congress with a two drink minimum"😆
best comment. thanks
Add a shit load of drugs to that two drink minimum
That last line: "You're still dead" LOL
NANI?
If there's one thing about the British I love, it's that they're debates always never cease to amuse me
Haha yes fantastic analogy sir
+Jolly Infidel a nuclear pogo stick, better to vent and talk when bullies elsewhere are looking to get their own
Democratic Socialist? oh dear.
"They're"? "Always never"? "Edgar Allan Poe"? .. ooooooooof
Assads Spanker hahaha was about to say the same
The British Parliament seems more impressive than the US Congress.
Yeah. The openness of the debates, and the fact that the Prime minister has to regularly get his/her hands dirty by engaging in debate with other people just feels like a healthier democratic process.
That's because it is. US politics is fucked up
couldn't have said it better myself. I posted one of these videos on Facebook and no likes from all my clown american FB friends. wonderful stuff here. actually worth watching rather than put you to sleep like cspan
Careful.
Imagine if US presidents were forced to use their intellect and debate their policy on its merits.
I love how British talk. lol
Darkless4X
hahaha, we don't all talk like that! Come to Manchester
one of my wishes is to have a British friend. everyone I know is American or Mexican but nothing is as cool as meeting someone who speaks English..... 😀😀
Go to Scunthorpe
Reading the comments I feel so proud to be British
the ending loooooooooooool
Sarin gas is worse though, because it doesn't target accurately. It kills large amounts of innocents. It's almost designed to kill innocents.
And the irony is that Sarin gas doesn't kill immediately like a cruise missile. It puts the victim in a prolonged state of extreme suffering.
@@assadsspanker6848 Missiles from drones also kill civilians
@@assadsspanker6848 google "obama 90" for a fun surprise :)
I loved the Scottish guy's speech
kind a remind me Gerard Butler
the last guy though. "you're still dead". very true.
yeah, but atleast with a cruise missile its quick and easy, chemical weapons are a whole other story
This is nothing compared to some of the arguments and debates that take place. This was pretty mild infact...
I'm an American, and proud of our country. I watch British Parliament here on CZcams for many reasons. First, I am astounded with how polite and proper they are, and how organized they seem to be. They have qualities we could do well to emulate. Secondly, I watch them to learn about ourselves - contrast yields perspective.
Very honest of you
there were some beautiful points made by the government as well as its opposition
i love that last line so much.
The problem in the US is we're constantly hearing about politics, we're constantly talking about politics, but we're not seeing these sort of debates and votes in the legislature that actually make a difference. If congress was like this, I think a hell of a lot more people would be watching CSPAN.
This is really entertaining. It is thrilling and fun!! I wish my country were just like that. Goverment officals literally fight in my country.
Heated? This is tame compared to what we are seeing circa 2019
This video was from 2013 chill
2:34 - end WOW!!! REALNESS
That last speaker really hit the home run
1:36 Fat ed helms in the background?
This looks like complete chaos
We give glory to God
Who is the MP at 0:46???
Parliamentary debate is so kewl. ^_^
and that last line. phew, man that was good
Ramza Beoulve Yeah, that gave me a little chill actually. I wish war action was debated so openly in the US, instead of the behind the scenes decision making we have. Compared to the US, it feels like the British parliamentary system is so much more open and healthy.
The point at the end lmao
2013, because the Gregorian calendar is off by a year, also this was 4 years ago... So.
In the end, it’s not the years in your life that count. It’s the life in your years...
,,,Rashid
I remember watching this live
This room looks ridiculously small for the number of people in there.
Far too many idiots in that room. Automatic weapons are needed, to clean out the place.
Brill Comment! Totally agree.
Chris UK ENGLAND....
Breaks your heart
The Labour party should have given William Miliband the leadership... They would have a higher chance of winning
Today I saw David Cameroon
The last guy name was mr.obvious
OMG is that Great Britain parliament....
hoooo come on
george galloway, what a man, brilliant speech!
the vite shudve been when evidence was analysed and reviewed, the vote was wring but sensible considering the time it was put to parliament
its good that before the PM do anything he talks with parliament
What has happened to the national interest ?
You called it "heated" XD
You should watch the parliament debate in Taiwan haha.
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In Canada they bloody talk about Prime minister having a chocolate bar during vote
The British sure do put a lot of effort in. And the U.S is so boring.
That's not the point. We're talking about governments' proposed actions that have not come to pass and should depend on a democratic vote, not what has already happened. However, it is worth noting that both of the examples you mentioned were not actions of a democratic government, and instead to use your own words came from 'a leader that excercised his judgement and took an absolute position on the matter'. In fact, your post just strengthened my argument.
Some large country never debates,even no speaking,leader decided all,never opposed
Interior is so much similar to Indian parliament or vice versa
Adi Mate It’s similar but ours is bigger and spacious
It's fun to watch
the heckling is everything lol
What is 'right' is purely subjective. That is what democracy is based on.
High taxes in particular labour taxes to match low inflation will be imperative. How will the returning services sector folk cope with it? I'll say high taxes is when folks have flocked in. Cose it doesn't last. But u will need it
Trust me this isnt heated for parliament to say the least
Fair enough, I take your point, but disregarding propanganda is easier said than done. Unfortunately educating yourself does not work as well as it might since most books are written with a bias to a certain extent.
Never were truer words spoken by George Galloway and Alasdair McDonnell in the House of Commons.
They need to upgrade the parliament room
Should have gone to war. Wet blankets. Cameron should have just used the Royal Preogotive
Any other Canadians here think this looks so calm and orderly? Haha.
0:55 And the adventure begins xD
It's the custom of the House but they can get ruthless
Why is the British parliament so packed
Integrity!
Well now their is no debate we know it was the rebels that used chemical weapons. Why are the British parliament not disusing attacking the rebels?
How come the regime is not allowed to use chemicals but the rebels who were covertly armed with Libyan weapons by Britain and America are allowed to use them.
colin porter is there any proof or are you either being held hostage by Putin to write propaganda or being payed
Kenshin1998 Himura lololol
That last speaker. There's a reason why this video ended there. Think about it people.
Cameron wanted to....
This is a debate for adults not for teens on a computer...
With all these Talking Points & Debate. When will the Justice be done? When will the Culprits will be taken in front of Jury ? & When will the Victims can Rest In Peace. Is in God's Hand Now ?
It is NOT an heated argument if they don't throw shoes on each other.
- an intelligent indian
Bro this is more entertaining then TLC
amo ese acento
The use of Chemical Weapons does not take into account civilians at all, whereas guns do (to some extent, though civilian killings do occur with guns too)
Finally our government debates something worthy instead of the jam debate or the debate about the TV debate. Good jobs guys, you finally seem worth the amount we the British tax payers pay you.
+Molly Kymberley Greenwood and if you don't pay them so you won't be able to even get job, so never think about the tax you pay, you are helping yourself, not them!!
Bet you're fucking wishing for those debates now. Those were the days.
So damn pack. These representatives are sitting shoulder to shoulder. Even parliaments of India and Pakistan is much roomy..
Why has cnn removed my comments
"You're still dead"
LMAO mic drop moment
It’s like the British get a Wednesday government soap opera special every week
Well done Debate by Cameron as a student debater I think he's one of the best
aattitude
I was thinking the same thing. Saying "there are evidences" or "it's right in front of our eyes" means nothing. Show some dates, studies, test results, scientific proofs, pictures of victims... anything really.
Reminds me of that whole: "they have weapons of mass destruction" US-Iraq fiasco.
The last five years have been terrible, he did nothing to help the poor,he made the rich,richer
So these are the heated debates...🙄lol
This is a lot more heated: czcams.com/video/i3r8IBlVtys/video.html
Is this church ?
It's like i just seen a Movie
The only person in that house with his head screwed on is George Galloway.
They want to go to war over an assumption
debates mean nothing when people are killing each other over hate.
Blimey, your standards are low...
Why is U.K parliament so small. My country's parliament is like a stadium.
Lets make it 300 comments. Tada
CZcams has removed my comments on the truth
Malcom Rifkind looks and sounds like a British Bernie Sanders
2:38
That's like a Robot Chicken skit XD
also, what the hell? of course there's a difference
Oh, jeez, do I want to die in seconds while bleeding out of my lost limbs and with shrapnel all over me?
Or will I settle for dying in minutes, with an immense burning feeling on all my surface and in every orifice, and slowly panting for breath while i cough up the rest of my liquified lungs.
what was this guy's point, anyway?
I'm sorry but that guy at the end has no idea what he's taking about. Clearly getting killed by a cruise missile would be a very quick death if not instantly. Getting killed by chemical gas would be a long and horrible death and is extremely inhumane not to mention the fact that this is proven throughout history that this is a very inhumane death to the point that countries have banned the use of chemical weapons for this exact reason. So in conclusion his argument is invalid and has no fucking idea what he's talking about.
Why such hurry... Can't we at least just wait for the UN investigation?
What is the point of having the UN if everyone just runs in like cowboys...
I wish we just would stop getting involved in other peoples wars.
i get it but when there is a war crime which was banned the world over after World War 1.. its basically breaking the law only on a global scale and it merits a response by a countries that wish to uphold laws
joe090309 A war crime that we ourselves broke..
How is this heated?Look at Ukraine
1:55
I didn't know Obama attends the UK parliament every now and then :D
+RaisedOnRadio Where? lol
+DFandV to the right hahahaha :D
just joking lol, he kind of looked like an old, worn out Obama at first glance :D
@@TheItalianoMafiosi Looks more like Bush to me ahah
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What is your headache about the gas whereas people are dieing during the migration from Africa to Europe which is made by some of the worlds developed countries.Which not only make the African people sufferer but now also the European people.During Gaddafi and Saddam regime at least the innocent children were not died during crossing the river anyhow everyone has to pay for culprit activity and will be rewarded for the good deeds.For instance Jews paid in German and the American enjoy the fruits of Lion's job.
Lots of Neville Chamberlain's I see here
That's how we do politics =)
the US and UK should listen the overwhelming majority of their populations and not do this thing; isn't that what democracies do?
Just com back gram you know
I remember back in these days, thinking Britain was being stupid AF for sending weapons to extremist groups who would kill westerners if they had the chance.
Then ISIS happened, and I was like “Well fuck, these guys are way worse”.
What’s my point? I have none... I just remember my thoughts on all of this just before ISIS.
Today Boris Johnson spoke about brexit,Tomorrow nosnhoj sirob is gonna tall bout tixerb
So corrupt this country
They have done enough harm to this world already since 19th century.