US Long Covid 20% of cases
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- Which is way higher than the UK figure
CDC, Long covid
Latest UK figures
www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulati...
2.8% of the population, self-reported
Of those,
73% symptoms at least 12 weeks
44% symptoms at least one year
Post-COVID Conditions Among Adult COVID-19 Survivors Aged 18-64 and ≥65 Years - United States, March 2020-November 2021
www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/w...
Previously infected with SARS-CoV-2,
reported persistent symptoms
≥4 weeks after acute COVID-19
March 2020-November 2021
United States, aged ≥18
Incidence of 26 conditions often / previously attributable to post-COVID
Among all patients aged ≥18 years
38% of case-patients experienced an incident condition
16% of controls
18-64 years
35.4% of case-patients experienced at least one incident condition
14.6% of controls experienced at least one incident condition
Aged ≥65 years
45.4% of case-patients experienced at least one incident condition
18.5% of controls experienced at least one incident condition.
Survivors aged 18-64
One in 5
Survivors aged ≥65
One in 4
experiencing an incident condition that might be attributable to previous COVID-19
Conditions affected multiple systems
cardiovascular, pulmonary, hematologic, renal, endocrine, gastrointestinal, musculoskeletal, neurologic, and psychiatric signs and symptoms
Highest risk ratios (RRs)
Acute pulmonary embolism
18 to 64, RR = 2.1
≥65, RR = 2.1
RR = 2.1 and 2.2 among persons aged 18-64 and ≥65 years, respectively) and
Respiratory signs and symptoms
RR = 2.1 in both age groups
Critical to reducing the incidence and impact of post-COVID
Implementation of COVID-19 prevention strategies
Routine assessment for post-COVID conditions
is critical to reducing the incidence and impact of post-COVID
The research study
A retrospective matched cohort design
March 2020-November 2021
63.4 million unique adult records
110 data contributors in the 50 states
Case-patients, 353,164
Control patients, 1,640,776
Case-patients or control patients with a previous history of one of the included conditions were excluded
No significant difference
Cerebrovascular disease
Mental health conditions
Substance-related disorders
Differences by age group were noted
RR for cardiac dysrhythmia
18 to 64, RR = 1.7
≥65, RR = 1.5
Musculoskeletal pain
18-64, RR = 1.6
≥65, RR = 1.4
RRs for 10 incident conditions, significantly higher among those aged ≥65
Renal failure, thromboembolic events, cerebrovascular disease, type 2 diabetes, muscle disorders, neurologic conditions, and mental health conditions (including mood disorders, anxiety, other mental conditions, and substance-related disorders
Limitations
Patients infected with recent variants
Acute COVID-19 infection might be biased toward a population that is seeking care
COVID-19 vaccination status was not considered in this analysis
The CDC has lost a lot of credibility here in the United States and countries around the world would do well to look at anything the CDC puts out with a very critical eye. It would seem that politics and egos have come into play within that organization.
Better count the WHO in too then since the WHO follows CDC policies. It’s going to get rough folks.
because that is what you do in your own life doesn't mean that is what the CDC does. Obviously you projecting your own flaws upon others. Sounds like the narcistic behaviour of D Trump and Amber Heard.
Oh yeh obviously the cdc is a untarnished instance of pure genius, boss
Well said sir
They lost me when they said only 18k died of avian flu when in actual fact as they admitted years later, the software had broken and stopped counting the numbers. Years later they admitted to a possible 300k+ deaths linked (but cannot be confirmed) demonstrating gross failure and a cover up at the time, the cover up being intentional or pure incompetence and lack of moral courage is still undetermined.
Here's some good news. Tennessee just made ivm over the counter, and anyone can now call pharmacies in the state, order it, and have it shipped country wide(ask me how i know). Hats off to tennessee!
can I dm u on Facebook?
Praise GOD 🙏🏼
Great..i live an hour away
Another reason to let ve Tennessee
I've had mine, ordered from an Indian pharmacy months ago, plus HCQ & Z pack.
I will NEVER TRUST my government, Cdc or the fda ever again. I’m seriously considering never going back to my doctor.
Having given up entirely on my medical providers.....seeing my own physician resign due to complete burnout, and treating myself during Covid....having Long Covid and being ignored by the clinic, I can attest to the lack of accurate data from the US. It is quite the life changing situation in every way...... The numbers of Long Covid here are very high.
Not using the health insurance is money. For insurers
😡🤦♂️ stupid sleeper!!!! is not long covid,
is ( long baxln injuries )
The gov't will take notice when they see how many people aren't working due to "Long Covid" and the economy starts to slump.
The numbers for Long Covid are going to be a lot higher than people reporting it because they give up on seeing doctors- who are absolutely worthless and can't treat it. Silent sufferers.
Dr. Campbell, I have essentially stopped listening to or seeking any other source of information on COVID aside from your channel. Your rigorous approach to statistics along with the presentation of all available data (with sources) is refreshing and very necessary. Thank you.
Lol.
2.5 years in and you realize the regular news lies?
Well, this guy advocated the JAB even for kids so you better keep looking.
I've been subbed to you for years, great to read you here and I agree with your assessment of Dr John.
If they heal you then they will make no money from selling you drugs and treatment later. Never forget how a certain doctor and his drug protocols created Chronic (long) Lyme Disease. TonyF and a panel of "experts" (Drug Companies) vilified any doctor that was healing people with Lyme disease, they even charged them with malpractice for HEALING people. They took their licenses and bankrupted their businesses. Some of the doctors even mysteriously died (suicided) when they blew the whistle on Anthony and his protocol which was creating chronic Lyme Disease. Is there any surprise the same is happening with long covid, when fauchism and the drug companies have gotten away with this type of scheme and made tons of money from drug treatments for years.
@@kissthesky40 Exactly. I love the presentation but I'm very uncomfortable with his earlier conclusions (from only a few months ago). I trust in nature. #meatheals #carnivorewisdom #eatmostlymeat
I agree Dr. Campbell has more credibility in my opinion then CDC, WHO and any other social media or news organizations.
I have lost all trust in governments around the world.
Good for you!
Governments are there to be manipulated and used by individuals seeking gains and the population within those governments sit in the back seat, trying to get a new driver each time that won't head closer to the cliff. The problem is that every potential driver to be voted for requires huge resources to tout their position as driver. the bigger concern is that they might be drivers but their GPS is something else all together.
I'm American. I've stopped listening to CDC and WHO because I don't believe they are a reliable source regarding COVID. If these organizations have become political pawns. This rely on your expert analysis as it's proven very accurate! Thank you Dr Campbell as always.
@Colin K He does belittle the WHO quite a bit and rightfully so.
2:39 When they didn't include vaccination status, the answer is simple - the vaccinated are greatly overrepresented with long-term covid. That is the rational and logical conclusion when you are aware of the narrative and who paid for the study!
@@doiron12 They don't need belittled they need stopped in their tracks though. Goverments are signing up to this "Pandemic treaty" giving the WHO complete control over how a country deals with a pandemic, this is terrifying, what they say goes and if that is lockdowns, quarantine camps, forced jabs etc, that's what will happen. This is even more shocking given how wrong they got the course of action over covid. Sweden who followed the tried and tested Western way of dealing with a pandemic did far better than the WHO and the CCP / Gates way so why are they still trusted to run the show? This medical mafia racket does not just need belittled it needs stopped.
yup me too from usa too . they lie tp people cause they want to scare cause od the election . thats my thought , i like dr john very much truth .
@@MsKalaskul How is that the rational conclusion? Do you have a source?
Long Covid issues are bad in Australia. I know of too many cases personally. And it's incredible how different the effects of Long Covid are. Even people losing their hearing.
Gotta love that Vaccine!
@@oodiddy9778 Yeah, much more probable that the effect of a virus with the exact ARNm code that spreads to the infinity. Makes sense...
No people are losing the voice for freedom from the Cabal!
Sorry to hear that. Yeah, having long covid sucks. Took me a few months to fully recover and my wife just recently got her smell back. Some, like my niece, are two years in and still having issues.
For the sceptics, this was months *before* I got my 1st jab.
I am not surprised. Weird stuff keeps happening to me, then it goes away just as mysteriously as it came. My right ear got a sharp pain for a little while today. Scared me and I thought, "Oh no, not one more thing!" Maybe am getting paranoid. 🤔
I would like to see a similar study but where they ignore covid and compare the vaccinated to the unvaccinated.
Yeessss🙌🧐
what would you want to make the same mistake as you want to correct. Doesn't make sense at all.
While I agree for a better study, there wasn't all that much vaccinations going on in that timeframe.
CDC only put out information that they want you to know. Bit like mushrooms. Keep them in the dark and feed them sh t.
gottagowork just say it becomes evident that the vaccines have / are causing the health issues - will the triple jabbed protest or just accept it ?
And many are nurses like me. Who worked the pandemic on the front lines. We still suffer and still work frontline nursing with patients. And there is no interest in even looking at what we suffer. Some are vaccine injured and never had Covid. But we keep working and hurting. Some are permanently disabled. But we keep going. I’m actually so proud of us.
Why not take all that was recommended by the drs that investigated? Like NAC , Vit C , Vit D zinc etc? Or even the Iver ? To help regain energy and better health.
It's a disgrace how swept under the carpet post covid issues have been and especially the risks to medical staff and their families.
just for the record there is zero
"Iong kov" , in reality is ( Iong baxln injuries )
I base my comment in two years of searching the truth.
In Germany many health workers are quitting their jobs right now because of vaccination mandate. It´s a shame to loose them that way. We have already not enough of them. They don´t deserve to be treated like that.
My wife who's 40 and myself (45) are both extremely active and healthy. We both caught covid October 2020 so I'm assuming it was the original strain. Both of us had mild infections which only lasted about 5 days. We also both lost our taste and smell. I got mine back very quickly but my wife to this day still does not have her full taste and smell back. She says it's like 50%. One benefit is she cannot smell poop at all so cleaning up after the dogs is great. She's also a nurse so she can't smell anything when cleaning seniors who had an accident. I told her to look at it as a super power. lol. As for myself I did get very random heart palpitations for a few months after infection. The palpitations we're very random and only happened a couple times a day which didn't affect me working out or anything else. They are completely gone. My wife never got back into working out after infection. She said she just gets tired too quickly now. Going on long walks and hikes are fine for her but running on the treadmill is out.
More heart attack insurance $ for the wife.?
Did you guys take the clot shot? Did you try Iv-er-mec-tin?
Please look into black cumin oil. It will help your bodies eliminate the excess cytokines.
We're you vaccinated?
@@80sShred Nope, since we both already had covid ai didn't see a reason. By the time it was available to people in their 40s, I was already hearing about a lot of severe side effects since my wife and many friends work in healthcare. I then saw an interview with Gert Vandenbosshe and that was it for me. I was originally considering getting it but after all that, no way. I now know 4 vaxed people with liver failure, 3 with heart issues, 3 who died shortly after, and about half a dozen who just never felt the same after getting jabbed.
Back here in the UK I just lost my brother on the 19th of April my mum on the 10th of May with covid-19 I've done a covid test 6 weeks ago and my wife and I tested positive . about 5 weeks ago I had some strange feelings when my eyes rolled into the right side of the top of my head and I thought I was going to pass out I drunk plenty of water and my wife hand the same experience and I told her straight away to drink plenty of water brother spoke about the same situation happening to him so did my mum saying they felt like they wanted to pass out had like a flutter situation in my eyes were rolling to the top the right of my head I thought I was going to pass out I shook my head many times on several occasions when this happened I automatically drink loads of water I will have my brother and Mother's funeral 3 weeks today I miss them lots already my heart is broken 💔
My heart feels for you…..to lose two members of your family is so, so devastating. Wishing you strength. Condolences from Australia.
So sorry. Take care! ❤
If you’re drinking lots of water be careful you replenish your body with needed minerals and electrolytes. You can wash these out of your body with too much water.
Sorry that’s gotta be very hard on you😞 did this happen before or after the booster?
I'm so sorry....please remember we are thinking of you and your beloved family.
I have lost faith in any part of the federal government!
I would take any CDC study with a planet sized grain of salt.
I am a subscriber of your channel and I just wanted to thank you for as you put it the, "unpacking" of these studies, papers and academic journal articles in a concise and pragmatic manner. Thank you also for always including the links to your source material. It has made the pandemic much more manageable for me and a couple members of my family. So cheers from Alberta, Canada.
Can you imagine the damage this will do after say 4/5/6 infections? And what is this doing to our children’s long term health??
Thank you Dr. John for asking the proper pertinent questions, especially those that too many officials haven't or don't want asked. As always, you have gone above and beyond and we are all very thankful!!! Blessings on you and yours.
Long covid. Aka vaccine induced immune deficiency. AKA the WHO, the FDA, the legions of bad doctors and many more organisations including governments, who are covering their behinds by blaming THEIR vaccine injuries on a virus. Cowards, liars and murderers all.
Dr John STOP PREACHING THEIR LIES
are you talking about the statisticly muted question over mandatory boosted enhancer ?
Too bad he didn't bother to research anything before telling 2.33 million foolish people to get quack'd because they were too lazy/terrified themselves.
@@markangelorgs.2773 You're joking, right? Surely you don't believe the nonsense that you posted!
@@ethicscannie5716 Every word or I would not say it. If you don't you clearly have done no investigation and truly need to educate yourself. Don't believe anything I say. Look it up yourself.
If only doctors here would take this seriously- 2 specialists and I’m still fighting to figure this out by myself because they’re looking at my previous labs instead of my current and systemic symptoms. And that’s the problem in the US we have a systemic system of health care instead of holistic.
Holistic medicine is fake.
The western medical system is largely allooathic, ie treatment of symptoms with the aim to either stop worsening or reduce symptoms. I would prefer a system that treats the cause, then healing can occur! It occurs to me that this virus causes different grades of illness probably influenced by the grade of health the patient has. Wishing you speedy recovery! Erik the Netherlands
amyloidosis
Don't hate me but Americans are hypochondriacs...😆 🤣 😂I'm sure that there are long haulers, there seems to me there is a COVID symptoms competition
@@eriksnip1243 "allopathic" is a nonsense term invented by the master of homeopathic quacks.
Why would they not include vaccination status? Seems a logical thing to do. 🤷♂️
Nothing is logical anymore
How do we differentiate between long Covid and vaccine side-effects then?
At the beginning of the pandemic I kept hearing the amount of people hospitalized and their vaccination status, so, for sure they can measure it.
It's only measured when it's beneficial to push a certain narrative and boost profits.
NO THEY ARE THE SAME THING
@@WayneTwitch obviously & exactly . Vaccine side-effects cover up
james gibson I would like to know the amount of people who were psychologically damaged and impaired during and after war times of acute stress ? That would appear to have the same symptoms of ‘ long covid ‘
They won’t tell you that!
Hi Dr. John, I am in 7th month of Long Covid. There is no other explanation. I have a slew of problems, but I am dealing as well as I can. I came across an interesting "antihistamine" theory. Actually trying it out. To my dismay, It may be working after five days. I cannot believe, but thankful and grateful for any relief. I would be glad to share my experience, if anyone is interested. Thanks for caring!
What is the theory and what is the treatment?
@@robertb8629 I can't say I completely understand, BUT, The theory is to take a Type 2 antihistamine daily.
They cross the blood brain barrier. I had a prescription antihistamine, so I've been trying it. I'm shocked! I take at night, since they knock me out. Hope Dr. John, can elaborate on this. Anyone suffering, please look into this. I know how we will try just about anything. I cannot even recall the you tube channel I saw it on, really didn't believe it would work. Not a channel, I'm even subscribed to.
Labs through the Chronic Covid treatment center. Yes, MCAS - allergies, histamine..huge. Also intermittent fasting helps, as well as getting tests for iron, electrolytes (deep, not the system shallow stuff), hyperbaric, etc.
Please share
I also watch that it was it was a few long covid review segments that they said antihistamines help reduce inflammation in the body which reduces long covid symptoms I've been trying it out too I'm not sure if it works or not but but it helps for chigger bites and my knees are going out and all that other stuff so
The unnecessary stress that the mismanagement of this pandemic has been worse for most than the pandemic itself. Thank you for bringing facts to the table, it has done more to reduce that stress than anything else. 👍
Absolutely
I absolutely agree, and this pandemic has exposed the incompetence of the WHO, and governments around the world. We must never again allow ourselves to be treated in this way.
Part of the plan[demic]
Soooo the obv q is how many stress deaths etc? And link etc? Or is it all arse?
@@brandon3872 Petition
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I would like to see the long covid rates among the unvaccinated vs vaccinated
The CDC has become highly highly politicized.
Maybe because CDC needs to keep encouraging people keep to vaccinate?
Ya think?
Number I would like to see is the percentage of jabbed with long Covid VS Unjabbed. That would say a lot about weather it is caused by the jab or the virus. But suspect that is the reason they are not using those numbers. But as you stated that is not being covered.
i am unjabbed with very long covid but interestingly many of my symptoms are similar to the vaccine injured.
Make sense in a way if Covid causes it. You may get Covid and have the issues. If Jabbed You Will Have Covid and maybe the issues (jab gives it to you).
But the question still is the Numbers breakdown, AM I more likely to have issues if jabbed or unjabbed? Problem being we have been lied to and misdirected so often lately you can not trust anything they say.
Good lord, its of course just not caused by the vaccine, many people got it before the vaccine rollout! Though there a some who claim to have it after vaccination too, though it appears to be far less than infection (and for many it could simply be picking up an infection at the vaccination clinic)
@@biancacasady both caused by the spike protein.
Excellent points you make. Thank you so much, Dr. Campbell, with greetings from Germany.
Viral and bacterial illness typically take many weeks to months to resolve. CMV, Parvovirus, EBV, Lyme Disease, various pneumonias both viral and bacterial all have long ranging symptoms that in most cases resolve with time. Certainly some cases have more significant and long ranging consequences than others. But these studies are poor poor poor.
Good evening everyone. Please remember to take your Vitamin D. Have a good day 😊
Horse paste for me
Get ready for Billgatespox injections
Likely "mental health" includes anxiety, which would be more the fault of the media and public health than covid.
Thanks for your constant updates and hardwork
All I know is that a friend of mine had the first shot of the vaccine and was intubated within 5 days, lost a foot and toes on the other foot, then found out she actually has lupus after testing for eight months....thus the severe reaction to the vaccine.......
Prayers for her recovery ❤️🩹🙏🏼
The vaccine turned her into a pirate 😱
Whoa 🤯
causation doesn't make correlation
How terrible
When they don't include vaccination status in the study, you can be sure it's because it wouldn't make the vaccines look good if they did include it. That is the number one priority of any study funded by the NIH or whose authors would like NIH funding in the future which is all medical research.
7 months long covid so far. Currently undergoing hyperbaric oxygen therapy . Had to clear out half of my savings to fund it. My GP barely knows what Long covid is. No help at all. I am just praying this treatment helps.
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The missing data point is completely inexplicable and suggests a coverup.
Agreed. 😳
because you know yourself so well doesn't mean that is what others do. Anyway thank you for telling us all about yourself.
I'm nine months on now with the long haul. It was debilitating for the first month- 6 weeks completely bed/couch ridden & fatigue like neuropathy. No energy, like a new born baby...mitochondrial dysfunction I believe. Slowly got better, smell is slowly coming back the last few weeks. Will feel normal for 2,3,4 weeks then a couple of downs days at this juncture. I think in three months or so I'll be 100% but the first 6 months was beyond frustrating as I'm quite active. Feeling positive now though. Was a mind "F" for sure. If I get sick I'm back up in 3 or 4 days in normal instances at longest
hope you feel better soon!
Try NAC..1 year of LC and it took ALL my symptoms away the first day. I did not have a mild case of LC.
Vaxd or unvaxd?
@@ciaranocallaghan859 As if long covid wasn't a thing before there were vaccines.
Are you vaccinated? I bet not. Did you believe the dangerous rubbish on this channel which told you that 'natural' infection was a great idea?
Morning Dr Campbell, Thanks again for keeping us informed on Covid.
If the study asked about vaccine status, then they would uncover vaccine injuries. Who funded the study and what was the desired/undesired outcome? Follow the money trail.
I find your positive attitude and clear minded objective views, both comforting and informative . Your channel is appreciated!
Thank you for you insight guided by knowledge.
I am not a linguist, I am a mechanic. Please try to read between the lines.
Thank you for addressing the issue vaxxed or not vaxxed in these studies. That's what I suspected. Seems to be an awful big missing data point. I can't believe some one just forgot to ask the question. None the less great reporting.
agreed. If I am allowed a guess, there are very few long covid cases among the previously infected and unvaxxed. I dont know a single person with long covid
My thoughts EXACTLY, Richard!
@ johnson paul
You must not know any ‘civil service’ types then. Every time one of them farts they claim it’s Covid and get to stay home and goof off. At full pay of course.
I'm hypothesizing that it's so bloody obvious that the jab is making it worse that they don't think they can spin it hard enough.
Spike protein, probably doesn't matter where you got it from.
My husband and I were ill recently, we did not have a test or report it. Not vaccinated and feeling fine.
Dear Dr. Campbell, I can’t tell you how much your descriptions and particularly your diagrams of medical terms have helped me understand what I’m hearing and reading about this illness. Thank you so much for transmitting your research and knowledge in a way that I can understand. It eases my mind enormously.
it would be better if you listened to your doctor rather than a CZcams pundit.
@@kittyroo9294 They won't, they are fringe.
TRUTH! VACCINATED OR NOT VACCINATED, THAT "IS" THE QUESTION!
They purposefully left it out. But I work in a funeral and we see who is affected and it's not tge unvaxed.
@@carolinespence15 that's reassuring, cheers tutu
YEA BUT VAXXED U WONT DIE BIG DIFF BUD.
You always have to remember that in the US sick people equals big money. Are they really sick or just being told they are sick? A sailor friend in New Zealand just had a medical procedure performed and needed some anti-biotics. He told me that the same anti-biotics they paid $280 US for in the US was $12 NZD in New Zealand (less than $10 US). You have to figure in the money factor into any reports from the USA.
In NZ many medicines are subsidized by the government. You pay 10$ but the Gov might be paying 200
NZ , has Pharmac , the govt drug purchaser .
The $12:00 is off , as we have a co-pay of $5:00 per item on new prescriptions my last set cost $25:00 which = 5 items @ $5:00 each , for a total of $25:00 .
The only exceptions are for those who want a drug that Pharmac don't supply , then you're up for the full market cost , which can be hundreds of thousands of dollars per treatment .
CV vaccines have created at least nine new billionaires after shares in companies producing the shots soared. Topping the list of new billionaires are Moderna CEO Stéphane Bancel and Ugur Sahin, the CEO of BioNTech. Both CEOs are now worth around $4 billion.
Always follow the $$$
This plandemic has always been about greed, control and manipulation…
Probably wouldn't have a +16.4% excess deaths from all causes US average, or +27.9% from all causes in Arizona (worst) if they actually weren't sick (usmortality site, using CDC data). And no, don't blame it on lockdowns as these were very short in the US on average, and way less restrictions in the hardest hit areas. Note that this is practically without any flu going around, meaning it's even worse than it looks. Compare that to NZ who have done excellent wrt Covid prevention, albeit with a cost to economy (recovering greatly I think), who are still at -2.47%. There will be a catching up coming where old during normal flu seasons who should have died then, now dies somewhat later inflating death rates a bit. But they'll come out far better wrt Covid, and less cost from less Long Covid.
Whenever there are multiple symptoms separately analyzed that's known as "multiple endpoints", in statistics. It's necessary, when determining the statistical significance of the measure of the frequencies of occurrence to take into account the fact that with so many end points the chances of "false positives" accumulates. There is a necessity of implementing "familywise error rate" or "false discovery rate" control. This isn't always done in medical papers. The New England Journal of Medicine requires such controls; many others don't.
Dr. Campbell - It appears that the paper's authors simply subtracted the percentages for the two cohorts i. e. 35.4 - 14.6 = 20.8 and generalized to 1 in 5. For the older age group, it was 45.4 - 18.5 = 26.9 and generalized to 1 in 4. That's my guess anyway.
Agreed. I think they way overgeneralized here in the paper; particularly by saying that 1 out of every 5 adults in the total Covid population now have a long-covid related illness. By the way, that graphic isn't clear if it means all adults or just covid survivors.
And given the extreme issues in diagnosis/testing of the general population for most levels of Covid; I would imagine the majority of the Covid cases in their data were quite significant/severe - from multiple doctor visits to life support-level hospitalization. This should skew the data heavily toward long-covid. I would trust the UK data more just because it should be more complete.
Now even a few percent represents a lot of people who are suffering and potentially for a really long time; but overstating the number has consequences on the psyche of the population at large and is a bit iffy scientifically. Caveats are important and rarely discussed or included when articles like this are shared.
Yes of course I don’t know why he missed this. you substract the control group from the total incidents. In other words ≈34% experienced a condition after infection when you would normally expect %14.6 to experience that condition in a non-infected (control) group. So substract the two and net gain is ≈20%.
Thus 1 in 5 (20%) incidents is likely connected to the infection, being over the expected probability in the population.
I’m reading this to say 1 in 5 of those who have had the virus - not 1 in 5 of the entire population. Thanks for your great videos. I’ve enjoyed them!
Yeah, and in that timeframe there was far less cases than delta and omicron brought along.
But I'm hoping for a way more thorough study later, age groups, precondisions, likely variant, vaccine status and so on.
If they heal you then they will make no money from selling you drugs and treatment later. Never forget how a certain doctor and his drug protocols created Chronic (long) Lyme Disease. TonyF and a panel of "experts" (Drug Companies) vilified any doctor that was healing people with Lyme disease, they even charged them with malpractice for HEALING people. They took their licenses and bankrupted their businesses. Some of the doctors even mysteriously died (suicided) when they blew the whistle on Anthony and his protocol which was creating chronic Lyme Disease. Is there any surprise the same is happening with long covid, when fauchism and the drug companies have gotten away with this type of scheme and made tons of money from drug treatments for years.
Yes, and it seems he is comparing that to 2.8% of entire population uk. Seems like apples and oranges
who hasnt had covid at this point...
@@agathahofmann6977 Suddenly China’s approach makes more sense.
FWIW, Vinay Prasad had the following to say about this study: "I would be embarrassed to publish this paper which does not adjust for diagnostic labeling/ascertainment bias......It also suffers from the fact sicker people seek care for COVID19.....Missing tons of denominator......and just generally being a nearly thoughtless analysis." Personally, I don't have the background to understand what he's saying, but I thought I'd mention his commentary.
Vinay was essentially saying that the denominator doesn't account for all the people who just rode out the sickness at home. IE, the vast majority of the people who got infected.
So when they say 1/5 people got long covid, it only looks that way because they're leaving out 1000 other people who also had it and never went to see a doctor.
Also I think the first half of his statement is referring to how the definition of "long covid" is quite broad. This is likely including people who lost their smell for 4 weeks, and lumping them in with people who have had shortness of breath and fatigue for 18 months.
The important thing to understand is these are not mistakes. It isn't negligence. The people organizing these studies are not this stupid. They're doing it in purpose, because they know the average person doesn't understand enough about statistics and critiquing scientific papers to be able to tell when they're massaging the data to tell a story that doesn't represent reality.
They play it off like a mistake, but they've been doing it non stop for like 3 years now.
@@Theviewerdude
Exactly.
@@Theviewerdude okk. What is long covid?
Haha
@@Theviewerdude What motive might they have for the mass deception?
Great video. I was talking to my colleague who caught Covid when it first began (so no option to be vaccinated) and, overall, she recovered within a few weeks but to this day has not regained her sense of smell...
How do we know this by having covid and not adverse conditions caused by the vaccine? Show me this broken down stats.
Thank you, Dr. Campbell, for your subtle presentation and critique of the U. S. study. What's between the lines in your post is easily as important as what you present directly. Thank you again, and I will share this.
Americans are absolutely screwed
There is a university in Germany (Uni Marburg) that established a PostVac ambulance a few weeks, for people with LongCovid who never had Covid, and it is reported that so many people ask for their services/help that they have a huge waiting list...
That's why the study has a control group. To determine how often these symptoms occur in the general population who did not get infected (or at least never received a positive test). The 20% is the difference in the frequency of symptoms with a confirmed infection and the control group without a confirmed infection. And yes, some of the control group also suffer from the same symptoms.
@@wortelsorbet now each of these two groups should be further refined (to make 4 groups in the end): vaxxed and unvaxxed.
Both the ONS and the CDC reports suggests that unvaccinated had higher rates of long Covid than vaccinated. The difference differs between the two reports. ONS seems to suggest that vaccination reduces the risk of long Covid by half, but the CDC report suggests only a 15% drop due to vaccination. While vaccination has stopped ICUs and hospitals overflowing with patients (see Hong Kong for how not mild Omicron was if people were not vaccinated), it unfortunately does not have the same effect on long Covid rates.
Thank you Dr. John, for asking the prominent questions as usual.
It will be fascinating to learn the reason for discrepancies in instances of long covid between UK and US.
I think you mean "pertinent" questions.
Sorry, habit.
Retired school librarian, MI / US
While I do not want to risk discounting those who are suffering; My heart breaks for their pains but it would be disingenuous to not ask the question. If we didn't bother to account for vaccinations, did anyone care to account for financial incentives to self-report in the affirmative?
Would someone please make some other reasonable argument against me if I'm only being cynical. The error bars just appear, to this fellow who got his schooling at home, to be unreasonably wide with the data available.
There is no financial incentive in the US. It's the opposite. We don't seek medical care except as a very last resort because it is so expensive. If anything, there is probably more out there than is being reported because people are just not going in for it because of the cost.
@ Matthew and Brad
This would depend on what kind of medical plan a person is on. In Canada the civil service types have benefit plans that would cost an American more than their annual salary in many cases.
I've had long covid since January 2021 glad to see it being covered more hoping for some kind of treatment soon
when did u get the jab?
March 2021
Long COVID is reaction to Spiked protein
Cause >10% natural infection
@@ma6337 I had persistent symptoms before I had my first jab. I caught the alpha variant which was before vaccines were available
Feb2020 here . Not vaccinated took little over a year to get back to about 80 % never fully recovered. Jan 2022 caught it again and back at it feel like shit its no joke some days are better then others but most of the time bed ridden and have time doing simple tasks around the house
No matter what John, your conviction to doing your best always trumps and it shows, respect to you.
Thanks Dr Campbell much appreciated 👍
35.4%-14.6%=20.8% above the control group which translates into 1 in 5 (1 in 4.8 approximated) in the 18-64 group.
Then 45.4%-18.5%=26.9 above the control group which translates into 1 in 4 (1 in 3.7 approximated) in the 65 and over group.
Indeed man, I thought it was very clear
The problem with the control group is that a past covid infection cannot be save excluded. Some dont get tested or tested negative, because virus load was to low. Another problem antibody level threashold are determined by hospialized patients, non-hospital reaches much more rarely this threshold, in asynptomatic it is only found in 20% despite a positive PCR. In my case i had 2 negativ PCRs and the normal antibodytest didnt reach ths threshold. Only a more sensitiv detected them, but most people think they are reliable, they are not, there are many tests and they are not normed.
After infection i had all covid symptoms and got Long Covid but everyone believes only the test results.
Many people i know had a very uncommon cold and developed strange neurological conditions after months, that are Long Covid symptoms, but they think they never had Covid because of the negative PCR test. Another question, how can you get a cold but not covid the mode of transmission os the same, and sometimes both in the corona-family
Did you ever happen to see my question about how did they have so much info about “long Covid” before they even had much data on Covid? It was kind of strange to me how quickly the topic of long Covid came up by agencies when they weren’t able to even report on actual Covid
When kids started testing positive, they used it to scare people
Strange you say this, bec in my country it was basically unheard of, that someone could get long covid All the way up until december 2021.
@@mighehe yeah. That would seem about accurate to even be able to make an initial assessment like that. I feel like In the US in was in within the first 6 months of COVID being around. For me. It makes little sense and was curious what Dr. Campbell’s thoughts were
I suppose that's why some call it a "Plandemic"
That's like asking how they knew Vaccines were safe during a pregnancy...when the trials didn't even last as long as a Pregnancy.
I had covid at the very beginning of the first lockdown...there were no vaccinations...breathing in is hard as my lungs feel tight...my hair is still falling out..my brains slow...my doc thought i didnt have covid as i wasnt in hospital...there were no tests for it then...but i was so ill for a few months , especially breathing, which never cleared.
praying for you and good health
Have you tried LDN?
Hi Dr. Cambell. I've been reading a lot of articles lately on covid or long covid and elevated d dimer test. So I'm wondering what your thoughts are in that and if there is indeed any truth to it. As a citizen of the US the information floating around just can't be trusted so I would love to hear your thoughts. Thanks for all you do in keeping us all sane throughout this whole thing. ❤️ Much Love.
HI Horse Lover -- I'm not Dr. Campbell but I am a clinician who's been seeing covid patients for the past 2 years every day I work. A Ddimer is a test ( as you probably know) that may indicate a breakdown of fibrin. Fibrin is the final step of the "coagulation cascade". If you have excessive clotting in your blood for 100 different reasons, the action of you blood zooming by for example a cut on your arm at 300 scale miles per hour will erode and breakdown that clot. If the Ddimer is elevated an a person HAS SYMPTOMS -- for example leg pain, or pain in the chest after a deep breath, and is suspicious for having a "deep vein thrombosis" ( a DVT) or "pulmonary embolism" (a PE), then a DDimer can be helpful. A DVT will generally give you pain in the area where the clot is. Most commonly DVT's form in the calves --- gravity pools blood there and when blood sits still it clots -- but they can show up anywhere (in the brain, in the lungs, in the "mesentary"...look that word up :-) . In a conscious person I've NEVER seen a person with a worrisome Ddimer level who wasn't having pain or some kind of symptoms. The problem with an elevated Ddimer is without a clinical context, it doesn't tell you much. It will be a guide . A person with cancer, or a person who just had surgery, or is pregnant, or had a knee injury and now the swelling form the injury in the knee casues the blood flow to slow down even a little (and cause calf swelling) will casue an elevated Ddimer. Does it mean you have a dangerous clot in any of those situations? No. If you have pain. The PAIN and symptoms are the big indicators. Without CT scan and ultrasound and further testing and much more information about the symptoms, that Ddimer only guides you. I've not see n the recommendations you're taking about -- I'm speaking from and Urgent care / emergency perspective. So again, if youre having no symptoms, no pain, no swelling of things normally not swollen then it's going to tell yo little . If you have any worrisome symptoms though ( and youre on birth control -- birth control pills increase clotability of blood-- you smoke, just flew 14 hours, your left calf is swollen and it hurts, or "this spot in my chest right here when I take a deep breath, it hurts! AND it feels like the air isn't getting in -- get seen RIGHT now. If none of that, you're most likely (999 times out of a1000) completely and totally fine. :-) PS -- this is NOT medical advice.
My wife and I are in our mid 70's living in the United States. We are not vaccinated and both came down with Covid in mid January of 2022. We did not go to our doctor and did not report our condition to any authority. We assume we had the first variation of Omicron. Out major symptom was fatigue for 2 weeks. My wife noticed a significant increase in hair loss beginning in April. Our dermatologist states this is one of the symptoms of Long Covid although we have not heard of this from any other source, including yourself. Maybe you could mention if this is common with Long Covid in one of your presentations.
I wouldn't call hair loss long covid. It is from your body being stressed. Her her will stop falling out and it will come back. No worries
true. telogenic effluvium is very common after any type of infection (fever or flu). could also be hormonal 😬
On the UK’s Zoe symptom tracker, hair loss is listed as a condition of Covid
@@MrRawMonkey
Everything is listed as a covid symptom.
This is common with long Covid. Also, the timeline is also common. It can happen right after having Covid or some months later as in your wife’s case. Your wife is on a typical timeline for losing hair after having Covid. I’m so sorry this is happening to her. I hope it will eventually resolve.
God Bless you Dr.John!
In the US medicine is a billion dollar!Business! The CDC, like every other institution in this country are profit oriented. If these figures are inflated, a whole new pharmaceutical and medical specialist business is created. We will soon see ads marketing "LongCovid Care" meds and doctors.
In April/May 2021 I came down with Covid-19 (diagnosed). I did not get very ill, just mainly really tired and it took a month before I could start resuming normal some type of normal activity. Then I started having some strange symptoms that I did not associate with having had Covid-19 (I had no knowledge of Long Covid at that time having never heard of it). One symptom was gastro-intestinal problems; any type of fat or oil I consumed turned into gas -- I basically was turned into a gas factory. And then there was loss of balance and physical strength. I could function but not real well. Some months later that summer I started experiencing some extreme exhaustion and headaches and by the fall I could barely do much of anything. I spent nearly all winter of 2021/2022 laying around trying to get my strength back and heal up. Problems I had during this period of time included extreme exhaustion, headaches, muscle and bone aches, digestive system problems, hair loss, vision problems, muscle loss and weakness, breathing abnormalities, and some other problems. I was not getting any better going into 2022 and I started getting really worried. I started watching videos from medical experts on Long Covid at that time and it finally dawned on me that that was what my problem was. There was no cure presented and they did even know what caused it. Then at the end of one of these long videos the presenter mentioned that a very small study had been in Peru involving 13 people that had Long Covid. They gave these people Ivermectin as a treatment and had a 94% success rate. One of my friends has 22 horses so I sent her a text message asking if she had any Ivermectin, thinking that she might bring me some of the horse de-wormer paste. Instead, she brought me 10 12 mg. tablets. Turns out, she and another friend of mine had been using the paste and then the tablets as a preventative. Within a couple of hours after taking the first pill I noticed that I started feeling better, it was like something was being lifted off of me. I took 8 tablets total over 7 days. The extreme exhaustion and headaches went away. I still had the digestive system problems and some of the other symptoms but I started just feeling better. My main problem then was the extreme bodily weakness after laying around all winter trying to let my body heal itself. During the winter my body was so weak that I had fallen 7 times when my left knee just gave way going down steps or a slight incline. Anyway, I have slowly been getting better and stronger the last 8 weeks and the gas factory effect has mostly gone away. I am physically stronger and can see the light at the end of the tunnel. Ivermectin did it for me.
Maybe you were suffering from a worm issue after all.
Glad your feeling better and that IVR helped you. Just wanted to let you know that you actually now have something called ME/CFS. Most people who have long covid for more than six months get it. I am a researcher of ME/CFS (ME for short) and long covid. I have ME myself. Though I'm sure there was some deconditioning that happened due to you not being very mobile for several months, it was most likely minimal and the real reason you were so weak was due to vascular issues caused by covid and ME (which is a post viral illness). I became so sick after a bad flu a couple of years ago that I became bedridden at 33 and had to use a wheelchair to get around. Oftentimes with ME and LC there are underlying issues like parasites, lyme disease and mold toxicity that put you at higher risk of getting very sick after a covid infection. Thats probably why Ivermectin works for some folks...it kills the parasites so it allows your body to heal from the virus since its defenses are not all going to the internal pathogens. Your GI issues also point to this. I highly recommend you check out Microbe Formulas products so you can continue to heal your gut and strengthen your immune system. Specifically the Bioactive Carbon minerals are a must for recovery! Check out their protocol page as they have excellent protocols you can follow for parasite cleansings and overall health. Lastly, I highly recommend looking into pacing (google pacing for ME/CFS and PEM) and learning about it. Its vital for full recovery you do not push yourself and do too much too soon. microbeformulas.com/collections/products
I was not asked if I had had COVID during a yearly physical May 23, 2022. The answer I was given when I asked why I was not asked was that the number of cases of medical conditions post COVID were not high enough to weren’t asking the question. I live in the Houston, Texas USA area. I was shocked that no data was being collected on long COVID. Today, 2 days later I am listening to you sharing what information the CDC is giving.
I have all of a sudden been hearing more talk about long CoVid…
So strange. Years ago around 1973 I worked with a man named Elliot Kerschner. He married a girl named Judy. It's probably a coincidence. Anyway, this was in New York.
In the US long covid will cover a vast amount of pre existing conditions. Your Dr is protecting you from a black mark on your health record.
"Long covid is really just the normal ailments and symptoms that come from eating the standard American diet of Animal products, processed foods, and junk foods.
@@rons5319 NOTHING.
I've been studying long covid everyday since it became a known thing back in summer 2020. I've read countless studies over the last year and half showing the prevelance of long covid truly is quite high (between 10/ 12 percent and 30 percent) and we know its higher with the Omicron variants so I think 20-35 % is not an over reach there. Its definitely a mass disabling event and most people aren't aware they even have it here in the states if its not in the debilitating end of the spectrum. Jut the other day at my bank the young woman who was my teller made a mistake and said she was having memory problems so bad her coworker told her to see a doctor. I asked her when the memory issues started, she said a year ago and I asked her if she had had a known covid infection..."yes also a year ago", and then I saw the light bulb go off for her...she had no idea what she was experiencing was actually brain fog and is a symptom of long covid, a very serious one at that. I gave her my contact info so I could send her some information and supplement information (I have brain fog from another condition so I am well versed in treatments for it). She was so grateful she almost cried.
I keep having interactions like this in the states. There is widespread lack of awareness around the more subtle effects of long covid (not being able to exercise / do cardio without crashing, having a hard time focusing etc), and so I think it is greatly under reported both here in the states and likely in the UK. Its a major issue and its only going to get worse. 1 in 5 people who get covid will get long covid and thats per infection! Some virologists are expecting people who do not do extra precautions like N95 mask wearing and social distancing are looking at 2 to 6 infections per year with the way the current Omicron variants are going. I'm no mathmatician but that seems like terrifying odds for getting a potentially life changing disability. This is why I don't leave my house without a well fitted N95.
If you skip details and giving name of studies, or vaguely saying "some doctors not even in a study say" and leave it anonymous, with respect you aren't helping. Some doctors are effing dumb too, my uncle for 1. John Campbell says long Covid is at most 2.8% and cites a study that shows it's data. Citing anecdote is not helpful, half of people in year 1 blamed tons of illness and turns out they never had it then REALLY got it and were sick as a dog like my Dad. So if you respect Campbell don't be so vague and basically push rumor, I do this too, we gotta fight the urge to be vague either be specific or be quiet. Peace and hugs!
ooooor everyone's calling every symptom they have due to covid. If someone has brain fog it's far more likely due to depression which people may not understand they have.
@@amyself6678 I concur with your sentiments and would love to see some good data from some good studies. Conclusions without supporting data are opinions, not facts. Long COVID is real and debilitating for many but how prevalent is it really. What is the risk involved. I keep hoping that Dr. Campbell or MedCram or some other reputable source present some. As a retired research microbiologist I have been following the data and it is full of unsupported suppositions so far. In the American media and CDC I see frequency listed as between 10-33% of all cases. If I recall correctly, John the Brits seem to have different definitions of LC ranging from 4-12 weeks post infection. That's important. The 2.8% prevalence level discussed is self-reported data which that can be compiled into a study but is at best correlative. Paraphrasing the disclaimer around the VAERS self-reported data, John includes a link above showing 1.3-2.0% of self-reported LC in British populations that is 90+% post =-COVID infections. This is less than the 2.8% of the CDC, and way different than 10-33% floating around.
@@TomMoench ... Seems Covid was "light" virus, send to bed or hospital for month 5% and killed 0.5% and long Covid is 2%, and only weird thing was no 0.5% young killed like normal due to immune system overreaction. Evolution wise the human race was NOT at risk from Covid, it won't even show up on population statistics unlike Black Death 20% w 5 waves so got 50% overall killed. 1918 was 5x worse. . . Just to explore our mindset a bit... The ugly truth is Humans live in sea of viruses each probably hurts us a bit to survive, taking months off life or making us like 5% weaker. Our mindset is just wrong. . .. to guess, ,,Humans faced 2 pandemics a century usually, x 100 centruries of cities so 200, and even tribes precity faced 1 a decade for 200,000 years so another 20,000, and even monkeys face viruses as do all animals so 100m years / 100 is 1m major pandemic events ... So this is our 1,020,200th pandemic of our family tree from 1st mammalian rat who hid from dinosaurs 100mya, if the mammalian immune system couldn't survive viruses w ok postrecovery bodies still able to climb/think/breed close to normal fit levels wellllll our ape ancestor would've died off, but instead usually 90%-30% get thru any 1. . . . Pre 100mya wow viruse v cells at bacteria level fought quick wars, like 1000 a year for 1b years for any family line of bacteria, so 1 trillion life vs virus battles and survival of fittest events, yikes, luckily viruses just can't kill all life this IS A LAW OF LIFE PROVEN BY HISTORY viruses don't get all 100%, thank the Lord ,, ,,, I read a scifi book by Hogan who did theorize aliens ripped out 90% of virus defense to let human brains work better, ha, so a dog can eat rotten meat we can't, that was Ganymede series where aliens as pet took us to planet that became Asteroids before they left it 1b years ago, we blew up planet 100mya and then in colony ship drifted for long time till made it to earth 1mya OR I FORGET THE TIMES, yes it makes little sense, , ,. On Ganymede all creatures were poisonous so no predators so they saw earth bio system as barbaric they left cause seeing earth was Sooooo traumatic they wanted to travel universe far away, , the pet humans came back 1mya so rejoined earth life but w better brains able to abstract without half a immune system, , I half remember, ,,. I am not serious just tossing out ideas, viruses are not new but they do impose costs , weirdly our system can't maybe function well at zero virus levels we are built to live in ocean of viruses a clean environment kills us worse orrrrrr would we become 2x better???? Just guessjng and joking is there a book on virus vs life 1b year war of evolution ?? Sorry to ramble.
US here. I had no heart issues before the vaccination and following infection. Arrhythmia. Extreme fatigue, continuous respiratory problems.
My brother had the vaccine early then the booster soon after had a myocardial infarction in LAD ( serious heart attack) the findings of cause were not calcification but blood clotting. Our family has no heart disease. He now has a stint and is on life time anti clotting drugs and is having chronic health issues now apparently. Never had covid but he’s now got long term issues that I’m sure they will write off as coincidental. He did fill out a VAERS report. Note: his career was critical care surgery nurse in electro cardio physiology so he knows about the heart.
@@mamawelder I also had an STEMI (blood clot in LDA) with no family history, had a stent inserted am now on lifetime anticoagulants with complications. This happened about a month before Covid arrived and a year before I was vaccinated. Anecdotes are pretty useless.
Know of numerous people with same issues. One more recently, the guy is fit active never had problems before with racing heart etc he's perplexed. I'm reluctant to tell him what I think as he did say a while back 'all non vaxed should be round up and shot' Karma I suppose isn't it!
@@mamawelder yup im not even mid thirty and taking heart meds....I got diagnosed with CHF. Drs couldnt tell me what caused it. I got covid and shortly after all this came up...now im taking a ton of pills seems to be long term from what im being told.
@@marmotsongs true that’s why there’s VAERS to see a pattern. I do however have three other close friends in the community with nearly identical situations. So it’s interesting patterns. Oh and one is dead. Super healthy, active and very athletic. My age….I’m sure Pfizer is counting on you and I to just shrug it off.
I lost all sense of smell after two vehicle accidents and concussions. Couldn’t smell my dog who laid 6” from my face that was sprayed point blank by a 🦨. I remembered that zinc helps with sense of smell. I started taking a zinc supplement every four hours, treating it like a Rx Med dose. It took a little while but one day I was driving and smelled a skunk. Wow! I was so excited!! Try it !!!
You're right, this paper doesn't contribute much to the inquiry. What is an i"ncident condition " vs. ongoing chronic illness?
Have an arrhythmia and B/P issues after third jab, Cardiologist says many cases like mine, previous healthy now on medication for tachycardia, just lovely…(not!) United States
Same
I’m having cardiac issues as well. Going to go get checked out tomorrow morning. 😥
Same except after first shot. Pulmonary says he continues to see increases in patients with sinus tachycardia and bp issues.
You were lied too..
Damn!!!! My blood pressure is reading low. Docotor doesn’t seemed concerned as I am. I never have low blood pressure!! Only one time during surgery that I think went bad. I’m currently recovering from Covid.
Wouldn’t you need to take into account the health status of a large number of Americans who have limited access to medical services or don’t have insurance?
Medical professionals just roll their eyes when a patient claims vaccine injured. That's because they don't have any answers.
Check out Dr Vinay Prasad's channel. He just talked about this paper, it was not properly done.
My hat is off to you ,good man. Appreciate you still. Lol the world needs more like you. Thank you.
Take a look at Vinay Prasad's comments on the CDC paper. The controls are very different from the covid patients, so the two groups cannot be validly compared. He refers to the paper as "landfill".
I had long covid in the US and Ivermectin and a Z pack healed me in a week after months of flare ups.
Ivermectin cured your long covid? Hahahha
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FAKE NEWS !
What an odd thing to lie about.
I asked for Z pak , my doctor told me it does not work on viruses. 2 decades of research says otherwise.
Excellent podcast, as usual!! Thank you so much. Four weeks is absolutely not long enough to define long Covid. The CDC uses contractors to do some of its work. I am not surprised by poor quality papers popping up now and then.
I got covid in England in March 2020. Never got tested. They werent testing in the UK at that time. When I finally got back to the US in September 2020, I noticed all of the symptoms mentioned above. I kept trying to find help for these in the US, ,but no one even knew what long covid was. I finally connected with Mt. Sinai's clinic in NY in December 2020, and made an appointment for January 2021. I ended up going to Tucson, AZ instead, since my health insurance was only for AZ, and the clinic was very expensive. In Tucson, I had a primary care physician who was very helpful, but knew nothing about long covid, and this was in 2021! I was diagnosed at this time with Diabetes 2, as well as a blood clot, high blood pressure, and I had all the long covid symptoms still. Since there were no long covid clinics in AZ at this time, I continued to follow the research on this in the UK since they were miles ahead of the US in this area. I applied for a clinical trial back in Oxford, England for covid survivors who contracted Diabetes after getting covid and was accepted. I went back to England in August 2021, participated in the trial, and applied to be admitted to the long covid Clinic in Oxford. There was a long waiting list for this. I didnt get into the clinic until Feb. 2022! I finally got some help for my long covid symptoms..but it took almost 2 years! So, these figures from March 2020 -Nov. 2021 makes no sense to.me at all!! Nothing like this was being done or addressed in the US during this period. It was all about the vaccines. So I agree. I dont think it's accurate at all. One thing though, no anti-vaxxers in the US would participate in a trial given by the CDC, so, I would assume everyone who participated in this was vaccinated.
Or is it that the awareness and monitoring/recording of chronic conditions is higher since the pandemic?
How seriously did a GP take a patient when reporting ongoing fatigue or symptoms that had no definitive cause when looking at basic lab results?
ME/CFS millions of people around the western world have suffered from this very real physical and mental health issue (usually after a viral infection) for many years in some cases with no help at all.
Thanks Dr Campbell.
My question is: People with long covid, what is the proportion of vaccinated and not vaccinated? If we don't have this information, very difficult to get a correct analysis
Good question ! Still the same question for the number of monkey pox patients. What % was 'vaccinated' ?
Every now and then the Good DR states they are NOT giving out that information. Anyone smell something off or do you have the basic reasoning skills that separate us from Livestock ?
@@georgebenson6330 I was unvaccinated and have long covid following an infection in March. Tons of people who caught covid in 2020 before the vaccines were rolled out also had or still have long covid
@@jackholloway1 really....what is it?
@@jackholloway1 Sorry to disagree with you Jack but the only people i knew with covid were the TV Personalities and Politicians, you know, the ones who were statistically less likely to catch it, were catching it ! There were many who posted their video evidence of the allegedly overflowing Hospitals only to find and show they were empty !
Thank you once again for your perspective. It helps all of learn how better to analyze data we are being provided.
I’m Canadian and our government employed doctors have ignored any and all patients who have reported many of these symptoms and problems. The ability to see a doctor is still difficult. However, as I listen to you, I am able to get an understanding of the issues many of us have been experiencing and unable to get medical professionals to believe we have. My personal experience began 3 hours after having a pneumonia vaccine, in October 2019 , with an emergency room visit (with symptoms I explained in a previous comment on your podcast) to be told by the doctor because I had no fever, and the needle I had would have nothing to do with it. To go home with and take Tylenol or Advil for the pain in my neck, arm and head. That it was not uncommon to experience that after a shot. So the heart racing, the cold sweats the nausea, shortness of breath and other things were apparently not important. My personal physician saw me a few days later, I was still not well and she determined I should not have another vaccine as I clearly had severe adverse allergic reaction to it.
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Isn't the 1 in 5 survivors aged 18-64 in your video equal to 20%? I agree it's not written well but I believe that's what it is referring to.
As you read this long list of diseases, as possible complications of Covid19, l start to wonder if many of these conditions were nascent in the sufferers previous to Covid19 & then galloping into full blown severity as a result of contracting Covid19, thus bringing their underlying health conditions to light.? Can you comment on this Dr Campbell, or research this? Cheers from New Zealand.
They already talked about that like 2 years ago..... Issue is 100% of everyone has issues with if they know it or not.
Yes, especially considering we know that covid makes any underlying condition worse and previous injuries to flare.
Winna Libert perhaps it’s the jibby jabby that’s doing it ?
@@dennispickard7743 maybe in some cases but covid has been known since the beginning to be capable of exasperating existing conditions. I believe the vaccines are capable of creating the same consequences as covid, it is the spike protein that does the damage.
Winna Libert “ since the beginning “ - the beginning of what? corona viruses has been with us for a long time and people have had crippling cases of influenza, sometimes leading to pneumonia and death.
Before the flu vaccine was only offered to those over 60 years old , now to anyone who wants them- perhaps the flu jab is causing harm also .
They ratio of young fit sportsmen who have been jabbed and collapsed and died far outweighs the number that have not been jabbed , if we apply logic to this , the conclusion would be jab harm .
Stress has played a big part in this as a very cruel trick was played by governments ‘ two weeks to flatten the curve ) - blah blah .
Do you remember the reporting from India stopped overnight? That was because India was going to slap a law suit on UK for reporting fake news . India was unfortunate to have had natural disasters worse than seasonal normal , so of course the death toll rose .
Dr will you discuss the similarities between LC and ME/CFS? During your next talk regarding LC
Been loving your site Dr C.! I have one comment though -- is it possible we're looking at different pools in these tests? The US test is saying -- and i paraphrase : "20 % of folks who tested positive for covid...with long covid" --- which is of course a fraction of the total US population --- versus the Great Britain test that seems to me to suggest "2.8% of the population with long covid" --- ie which seems to be saying 2.8% of total GB population, not the subset of those who've tested positive. Many pardons if read wrong or you addressed that but that's how I read it. Thanks again.
My kitty was on some coronavirus virology studies in the 2010s when she tested positive for lethal ‘kitty covid’ FIP. She went on a novel treatment and much to the vet community she survived. 10 years now. Soon she will need to cross the rainbow bridge due to cancer and her tissues will be sampled to try to learn long term viral affect on her body and any clues where exactly the virus went to. That is a missing piece of science. My girl has always been precarious. I suspect the long term covid have dormant or weakened but not killed virus. Maybe my kitty will help the virologists add to that part of medical research.
Interesting how the 2010s was a flurry of feline coronavirus. My kitty was a part of that. Researchers cracked the sequence of mutations for infiltrating cells. They started a few experimental treatments theretofore non existent and infected cats lived.
what got this to do with Covid? You sure everything well with you?
@@eco_logic I think it’s just giving an example of a different type of covid. Just her experience. I found it interesting, I didn’t know there was kitty covid studies going on in 2010. Scientist are always studying different things. They must. Use one study to help understand the unknowns. Couldn’t be prepared for the 2020 pandemic c it was something new. What helped the experts was their experience to SIMILAR studies done prior to Covid 2019.
@@eco_logic the research going on for cat corona vaccines ie feline infectious peritonitis or FIP, hopefully will have relevance to the development of human vaccines.
Interesting Sue. Thanks for sharing and purr kisses to “my kitty” for her help procuring the missing link in this deadly virus. The Rainbow Bridge is guarded by my Beagle Tucker 🐶 and he will make sure she okay …😘🐈😻 🙏🏼
@@eco_logic FIP virus IS an animal model for human coronaviruses. That is how research works. They find an animal virus that they can study intently and do tests on then apply to human coronavirus. Her virologist used his FIP virus research to discuss MERS, Sars1, now SARS 2 (covid). So the basic science is grounded on animal models. Harder to ‘experiment’ with human viruses and human subjects. Make sense?
Hi DrJohn, thanks again for this update, I did view the latest presentation from Dr Been its a study that has just been released the headline is "Vaccines fail to confer good protection from long covid" Its a large study in the veteran cohort the protection from vaccines for long covid is a very low 15%. According to the study findings. This may shed some light on the cdc study that you have presented.
ONS data shows it cuts long covid risk in half
@@alexdevcamp who are we to believe
@@christopherrobinson7541 Yes I agree the ONS does appear to be a reliable source, so the 2% is a more reliable number than the 20%for long covid at least in the UK. Its difficult to get the truth when so many studies contradict each other. You may be interested in an interview Drbeen presented with a vaccine neurological injured mother of 2. The headline is "First ever NIH/NIND study on vaccine caused neurological injuries" Worth a listen as the mother of 2 was one of the participants in the study. The studies conclusions were completely different from the mothers reality and the other participants reality. As I said previously we want to know the truth its the only thing that will help us solve anything. Dr John has been a great advocate for this which I appreciate. Thanks Christopher have a great day.
Also see mobeens video on LDN treatment for long covid!
just tested positive today. havent had it yet so I really thought my husband and I were dealing with a bad cold or even a flu but the thing that kept throwing me off was the low back tightness and the cold sweat we would get. No idea what to expect from here on put other than we now have antibodies and thankful we caught it later on when there are ways to treat symptoms that are known to work. stay healthy everyone.
Well done for catching the later variant. Most of us will get the virus in some form. We still need to give our immune system a jumpstart with the vaccine. Go' bedring!
Take you some zinc vitamin D and ( Liposomal Vitamin C a few times a day )
What are the chances of me testing positive Wednesday, negative Thursday, and positive again?
Awk again hi, always something going on in the Burn's household hi 🤣👍
Unless you have some underlying health condition - and assuming you got vaccinated - you should be fine. My wife and i picked it up on a campervan trip to remote Scottish Islands (go figure - 2 years of dodging it and we go somewhere remote and WHAM). Not too bad bit cold / flu for me, my wife a little worse but not unable to get out and enjoy the wonderful beaches with our young Labrador. The WORST thing was that it lingered even after testing negative. For me it was 2 weeks of waking with a headache and feeling like I wanted to lie down and nap at 3 in the afternoon. Other half also had the fatigue (no headache) but she carried a cough for a couple of weeks. We are 'triple jabbed' , late 50's and we eat well and add supplements (D, E, Zinc, etc.)
Maybe it's because it looks like the FDA is more concerned in helping Big Pharma sell more goods.
truthfully, I believe there's a reason china has a zero covid policy. the reported population drop was extremely high according to.data showing disconnected telephones, India was the same
Very disturbing 😮
Because China knows once you get covid you will always have it.
I know people in India and they said what we were told was a load of crap.
@@floorskin1 in what way, I'm truly intrested as I've heard stories from there too
@@foxtrot5160 can u share a bit on things you've heard, please. I'm very interested as well.
Dr Campbell, I so much agree with you that they should have indicated and taken into account the vaccination status of the participant and that 4 weeks is too quick to be considered long cov.
But I'm sure that you remember the last video you did with this young gentleman that is still dealing with health problems from vaccine injury saying that he found that the group dealing with long cov had very similar conditions...
So indicating the vax status in this study was most probably omitted on purpose by the cdc don't you think?
And it's the first time that I see something coming from them that doesn't state that the best way to prevent getting the cov is to get vaccinated!
Omitting to indicate the status and not suggesting that the benefits outweighs the risk seems like a good way to show very high numbers without really saying where they come from.
Just my thoughts...
Thanks!
This study has nothing to do with the Vaccine. It is only about Long Covid and effects from it. Mentioning Vaccination status adds nothing to the study.
This was my first thought.
Anecdotal : My mum was and is unvaxxed due to immune issues and anxiety. She was exposed to covid early 2020 - mild to no symptoms. Over the next 6 months she developed depildating issues, especially mental - memory,dissociative episodes, executive dysfunction. Still can't smell or taste 99%.
Testing said no dementia or stroke but beyond that 🤷♀️.
Can't get any additional testing and support/mums anxiety means it's hard to get her to pursue treatment. She can't work and quality of life is much reduced
@@kbennett3274 Because that has Zero to do with the purpose of this study. Which is all about Long Covid and the effects. This wacko conspiracy crap is ridiculous and childish.
good points!
I live in California. I’m sure I’m not counted in any of these stats. Had a relatively mild case of covid Nov 2020. 18 months on, I’m still extremely tired and have had a migraine nearly EVERY DAY for 18 months (up from 2-3/week pre-covid). The migraines amplify the fatigue!! Blessed NOT to have heart or lung issues or blood clots, so I don’t fit the profile for this study. My migraine doc is the most helpful, but has the least ability to help. Holistic specialist with supplements got me one month of relief and just started a new supplement regimen this week. Any study that starts at 4 weeks is ridiculous! Keep shining your light!!! We need you!!
Why wasn't the vaccination status considered, considering that long covid is more common in elderly patients whom are more likely to be vaccinated?
Doesn't seem to matter, vaxxed or COVID u were exposed to the spike protein, common with all long COVID.
This could be legit. For ages John has expressed surprise by how much higher U.S. deaths have been during the entire pandemic. It stands to reason that there is something unique about the U.S.
The failed to give therapy to sick people in early stages, that's why so many died
Yeah. We are sick from eating large portions of sugar, seed oils, chemical fertilizers, glyphosate weed killer, smoking, drinking, and stress from the daily grind.
John talked about the whole population for the UK. For the timeframe, not all of the US have had Covid. Not sure what the UK timeframe was.
@@deep6301 Well obvs give up the daily grind.
@@killpop8255 easier said than done..js
my wife has been suffering from short term memory loss and other physiological effects since her hospital bout with alpha (christmas - new year) 21. vaccines were not available at that point
12 weeks of vertigo. Started 2 weeks after infection cleared. Came with many symptoms that match long covid but go away as the balance improves. Still have sore eyes and a bit of anxiety left. I think a lot of the symptoms over lap. But thank god they are clearing. I feel for everyone stuck in this hell with no clear path out.
Hello John. Great to see you.