Are the threads for the buffer tube polymer or imbedded metals? I recently had a horrible experience with a New Frontier Armory lower that has polymer threads. my rifle was leaning against a wall on carpeted floor and fell over on its own. The buffer tube skipped over the threads and stripped it out!
@@Americandog83 There are no threads. The KP15 stock is part of the lower/mold so you don't have to worry about stripping threads on the receiver. Same goes for the threads for the pistol grip, it's part of the lower/mold. If you are looking for a polymer receiver that will let you use your own buffer tube/pistol grip you'll want one with the brass inserts. The only one I know of is Tennessee Arms. Keep in mind that the threaded area are still the weak points on that lower which the KP15 won't have.
I know you did one already, but I figure with enough advancements in the past 3 years... maybe an updated optics video? Lots of good variable optics out there now... but for red dots... seems like the new Holosun 3x may be ideal for 2020.
I noticed that as well. It’s almost like Russell is the part and Ian and Karl are the sprue (sp?). No disrespect. Perhaps artistic bookends on either side of a technical book. Perhaps revolving planets around.... (I’ll go away now)
Upper-Tier educated user here 🧐 In all seriousness, it sounds like these guys are really doing their due diligence to make this product right the first time. Never realized how much goes into making polymer molds. Like they said, it's not a GI Joe part its a firearm part, so it's great to see a lot of great minds coming together. The last thing we want is a half-assed plastic part that's gonna crack along a fault-line that could have been prevented with a little more homework!
@james avery not just molding plastic is a pain, even machining raw bar stock is a pain. Coolant, no coolant use air blast instead, how much it melts, does it expand when machining then contract, the surface finish from feeds and speeds, fiber filled vs non fiber filled, and even how razor sharp the tooling needs to be by knowing if you need carbide, diamond coated carbide, or sintered diamond that's ground and honed. Plastic just sucks for how it can at times be less predictable than some of the worst machinable alloys like cobalt chrome.
One of the main things that drew me to Forgotten Weapons and InRangeTV were the technical and mechanical discussions. This video is amazing. Can't wait to see more on this rifle.
The lowers are $200 on Brownell's right now, at less than 2 pounds for a complete lower that is amazing. I will buy one next month, eventually throw a lightweight 18" upper on it and try to get a 600 yard build under 8 pounds and under $1,000. We'll see lol
Nice to see some transparency with a manufacturing project like this. I think people are so used to waiting months or years for updates on new products, that eventually never go anywhere or aren’t delivered
As someone who’s worked in high volume, precision medical injection molded components - delays are totally not unexpected. And most of my components were straight pull from the mold- no slides or lifters. I commend your team on this project
Also did plenty of ultrasonic welding work. Be sure you’re developing your process now. There are so many parameters in the process. And you don’t want to be modifying energy directors /shear joints later on. Welding and EDM mods are expensive, time intensive, and soul crushing
It's really complex from an engineering standpoint and companies like H&K, Steyer + Glock mastered it in the late 70's, that's why they were ahead the curve a long time.
That’s true to some degree but the reason other companies didn’t “master” plastic manufacturing back then was that they were trying to convert previous gun designs into polymer guns and that’s what makes this project more complex than building a polymer shell for a brand new gun. It’s harder to adapt a piece that was once aluminum into polymer than to have free reign in creating a totally different design. Glock and Steyer were ahead of the curve because they had the funding to make the leap of faith to a brand new polymer design, while others hesitated and made adaptations.
This kind of deep dive into how projects and products like this come into existence are fascinating. Thanks for being so open about the whole process, I wish I lived in a free country so I could enjoy your guys' work.
Forgive me, I'd think rather that Russell isn't as much exhausted by this project, more what other works he and parts of gun and machinery, engineering and fabrications industries (as ore others sectors) are doing inrelation to emergency covid production of required/needed parts, componants, things to help the nation, amd suffering staff problems or issues from lockdown needs. ..if I took the hint of some of what he said inrelation to the mould design & cutting/machining being delayed etc...
Product design with plastics is kind of like being Sisyphus. I can almost be done with a job and my engineer comes to me with a change. I watch my boulder roll back down the hill and I start from the beginning.
That talk of 80% kits and the ATF really made me wonder what kind of bizarre things get passed across an ATF desk on a daily basis. "They want to sell what? With a _what_ on it?"
Devin Cook Lol the folks who work there are the same folks who work at any desk job. Some of them will have a sense of humor, others will be your normal dummies.
Thank you guys for putting so much work in to this for the past few years. My favorite part of wwsd is that it's not an ar build as much as it is an intellectual exercise that ends with a really cool rifle coming out of it. With the 2017 playlist, the faxon q&a, and the insight in to the industry my understanding and way of thinking about many products (not just firearms, or the ar platform) has been radically illuminated.
As an engineer who works in molding and new product development, this is awesome to see and very well explained! Very excited to see the welding process you are describing!
Super interesting. As a machinist and fabricator I have had to do similar R&D for customers. Vulcanizing rubber to a steel component. Locking the part into the mold is real. Just like bedding an action. Injection site and exit vent location are very critical to the products end result. Awesome job Russel. And thanks to Ian and Karl for walking us thru the concept on the way to finished product.
Our engineering high-school has a university next to it who specializes in mold measuring and there is a molding facility close. The work they do is so interesting and with the knowledge I got through them I can tell you the mold for this lower is a really professional piece of work.
@@cmikles1 The stock, grip, and buffer tube are all integrated into the lower. Pretty much the only things you need to complete the lower is a buffer and a lower parts kit. So you get a very economical and light weight lower. That's a win win in my book, and will probably help them sell a crap ton of these.
Aaron Mustin For sure. I have several Tennessee Arms polymer lowers and they’ve been fantastic with only one minor issue being one hole on one receiver was drilled about a couple thousandths too small. Otherwise they’ve been great. The problem is you’re only about 2.5oz less than a standard aluminum lower. That’s still nothing to sneeze at as a percentage of weight in the stripped lower but having the buffer tube, grip and stock all in the same polymer frame has some additional weight synergies.
Materials science here: polymers are a mess! Haha! There's a whole separate group of mechanical properties for polymers because they are all time-dependent. If you pull on a piece of plastic, it'll relax over time
Most of the math is in the CAD design and mold flow- which the computer is doing for you. Its really not that bad. The worst part is working with the mold tool builders/engineers- who are some of the grouchiest old assholes you’ll ever meet. And they tend to agree on that assessment.
@@JainZar1 I dunno I'm trying to finish discrete math right now and I'm not really enjoying it lol. I'd honestly take either calculus over it (haven't taken 3)
As an automation controls designer (formerly an engineer/programmer), Props on the current progress! Keep up the good work! I work in automotive industry, and we also run 60-75 second cycle times to meet vehicle stock and purchase demands. Kind of the overall point of such short cycle times is that given an example of 100 working areas (stations) on a single linear assembly line takes 60 seconds. That's 100 minutes or almost 2 hours to produce the product and run through the entire system. Granted after the first one, you're spitting out a new product every minute, but the initial and last build of a model is going to take that much time to fill and empty. Which in reality is the time taken for a facility to ramp up or down from cold start or shutdown. P.s. Glad this video exists to enlighten people on tge process and running of manufacturing industry!
Beautifully described aspects of the lesser widely known of many differing yet related engineering principles of creating the KP15; as important as the rifle barrel deep dive videos in fostering a wider grasp of plastic & polyer particular core engineering & fabrication & production principles etc. Thank You! & also to all those involded Best of L*ck :P
Is it just me or does russel fagan always look like he needs to be working on something important and Ian and Karl are the kids who keep pulling him away from his job. Not saying that he’s not a nice guy just it always looks like Karl and Ian are annoying him. Like in a little brother/big brother way.
@@apollosun6268 Yes, Ian and Karl have been in front of a camera for a long time now and are used to talking to a 3rd person who isn't really there. Russel is usually on camera in matches or narrative and not directly interacting with an "audience".
There's nothing quite like a great project manager, who intrinsically understands the varying inputs and challenges you face, to ensure the success of your project. Congratulations and very exciting to hear more about this :)
the most surprising thing about this for me is how affordable it is... 100~ish bucks for a lower WITH the stock, buffer tube, and grip is a great deal, especially considering how advanced it is. you guys have a much better chance of solidifying your place in the market when it's competitively priced with standard lowers. super excited for this thing.
I hope you guys realize you've made a huge step forward for 2a. Your ingenuity and dedication to technology most people forgot about has helped to ensure the American citizen (and others) can preserve and enjoy their 2nd amendments at a price level affordable to more people than ever before. 10/10 guys, thank you. Also where's the preorder? Also Russel, you need to calm down.
I'd say, at least to me, the lower developed for this is certainly the most interesting part of the whole project. I'm certainly not in a position where I can afford to splurge on the completed rifle anytime soon (nor do I have a dire need for one, my existing gear suits my needs well enough), but a $100 lower to piece together over time I'm certainly up for. Good to see that this is still going strong, the delays, especially the ones incurred by the medical needs taking priority, are perfectly understandable.
Just in case somebody has issues understanding the "shrinkage problem" they were talking about, Almost all materials when they are in the molten state fill higher volume compared to when they are in the solid-state. While solidification, the material starts to go through this change and it will show itself as shrinkage. This problem exists both in metal casting as well as polymers, but the difference is that the behavior of the polymers is much more complicated and less predictable by the human mind so there is the need for computer-assisted simulation to prevent errors in the final product. if they don't take this into account, it is possible that the straight line in the CAD design shows itself as curved or even wobbly.
After the 1st WWSD series a few buddies and I were drinking and talking about the project. More as a joke than anything I went online and bought the cheapest polymer lower I could find and budget build kit. You know, "for science!" I slapped the garbage rifle together and was pleasantly surprised at how much it doesn't suck. Having said that, I totally expect the lower to snap in half any day now. I am exited to sample the other end of the plastic fantastic world and compare the two.
It look like, to do things right, is far more complicated, than it seems form the start point. You gone thru a very steep learning curve here. Like the old telling say: „Dem Ingenieur ist nichts zu schwör“ Tipping my head Sir. Russel!
That's very cool, there really are some amazing polymers about these days - the VLF glass or carbon filled resins that are available now are starting to rival aluminium. It really wouldn't surprise me if we started to see crazy things like polymer gearbox casings in the near future.
Was a little sad to hear you can only get a lower with the pdq lever cut as a complete rifle as I built a wwsd upper last year and was really hoping to just buy a completed lower with one. All the same I'm really excited to see this succeed, it looks like this is going to be an amazing product done right. Thanks guys!
WWSD Playlist:
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Are the threads for the buffer tube polymer or imbedded metals? I recently had a horrible experience with a New Frontier Armory lower that has polymer threads. my rifle was leaning against a wall on carpeted floor and fell over on its own. The buffer tube skipped over the threads and stripped it out!
hey guys what are ya'll doing with the serial number? Will it be on a molded-in metal plate or engraved in the polymer?
@@Americandog83 There are no threads. The KP15 stock is part of the lower/mold so you don't have to worry about stripping threads on the receiver. Same goes for the threads for the pistol grip, it's part of the lower/mold. If you are looking for a polymer receiver that will let you use your own buffer tube/pistol grip you'll want one with the brass inserts. The only one I know of is Tennessee Arms. Keep in mind that the threaded area are still the weak points on that lower which the KP15 won't have.
I know you did one already, but I figure with enough advancements in the past 3 years... maybe an updated optics video? Lots of good variable optics out there now... but for red dots... seems like the new Holosun 3x may be ideal for 2020.
@@highlanderfreelancer4553 watch the video, they mention it. TL;DW ATF will shoot your puppers.
"Let's wear the three most clashing shirts we can"
Ugly shirt day.
Why does the dude in the middle look so nervous lol
@@weshayward7939 he's an engineering type dude, that's normal
I noticed that as well. It’s almost like Russell is the part and Ian and Karl are the sprue (sp?). No disrespect. Perhaps artistic bookends on either side of a technical book. Perhaps revolving planets around.... (I’ll go away now)
@@weshayward7939 He knew something, that the other two does not :P.
Carl looking like a Colombian drug dealer and Ian looking like the guy that flies the jets back to Miami lol
You win the internet today!! Hilarious and spot on!!
I dunno man. Russell looks like the pilot and Ian has the shirt and the hair.
They are lovers
I laughed way to much at this
And the middle dude is the dea agent who chases them
Upper-Tier educated user here 🧐
In all seriousness, it sounds like these guys are really doing their due diligence to make this product right the first time. Never realized how much goes into making polymer molds.
Like they said, it's not a GI Joe part its a firearm part, so it's great to see a lot of great minds coming together. The last thing we want is a half-assed plastic part that's gonna crack along a fault-line that could have been prevented with a little more homework!
Haribo Starman I seriously doubt Ian wants his name tied to a future forgotten weapon lol
Moldmakers are in a class of their own. We wouldn't have cheap plastic stuff without them.
There's always designing something to fill its purpose, then designing it further to be mass produced.
@james avery not just molding plastic is a pain, even machining raw bar stock is a pain. Coolant, no coolant use air blast instead, how much it melts, does it expand when machining then contract, the surface finish from feeds and speeds, fiber filled vs non fiber filled, and even how razor sharp the tooling needs to be by knowing if you need carbide, diamond coated carbide, or sintered diamond that's ground and honed. Plastic just sucks for how it can at times be less predictable than some of the worst machinable alloys like cobalt chrome.
One of the main things that drew me to Forgotten Weapons and InRangeTV were the technical and mechanical discussions. This video is amazing. Can't wait to see more on this rifle.
The lowers are $200 on Brownell's right now, at less than 2 pounds for a complete lower that is amazing. I will buy one next month, eventually throw a lightweight 18" upper on it and try to get a 600 yard build under 8 pounds and under $1,000. We'll see lol
Nice to see some transparency with a manufacturing project like this. I think people are so used to waiting months or years for updates on new products, that eventually never go anywhere or aren’t delivered
cough cough *HMG* cough cough
@@TheKYNREEVE aren't people still trying to get a lawsuit together against them? HMG of course.
Cough Cough PSA
@@anameofsomesort959 AFAIK all the people who asked for their money back got their money back.
@@ripHalo0002 referring to the dagger?
As someone who’s worked in high volume, precision medical injection molded components - delays are totally not unexpected. And most of my components were straight pull from the mold- no slides or lifters. I commend your team on this project
Also did plenty of ultrasonic welding work. Be sure you’re developing your process now. There are so many parameters in the process. And you don’t want to be modifying energy directors /shear joints later on. Welding and EDM mods are expensive, time intensive, and soul crushing
I worked QC in plastics for medical, and now a mold tech in automotive....I rather liked the information they gave.
Russell actually smiled and laughed. He's in an especially good mood.
I’d like to thank AvE for helping me to understand what Russell is talking about with plastics.
You took the same intro to plastics class as me? I don't remember seeing you you!
Jay Dunbar I’m sure we were both in the back of the class.
It's really complex from an engineering standpoint and companies like H&K, Steyer + Glock mastered it in the late 70's, that's why they were ahead the curve a long time.
That’s true to some degree but the reason other companies didn’t “master” plastic manufacturing back then was that they were trying to convert previous gun designs into polymer guns and that’s what makes this project more complex than building a polymer shell for a brand new gun. It’s harder to adapt a piece that was once aluminum into polymer than to have free reign in creating a totally different design. Glock and Steyer were ahead of the curve because they had the funding to make the leap of faith to a brand new polymer design, while others hesitated and made adaptations.
@@borkwoof696 Really? The P9s [around '69] and the VP-70 [around '68].
@@borkwoof696 That's not correct, they didn't dumped the tech, the P9s produced until '78 and the VP-70 even until '89.
This kind of deep dive into how projects and products like this come into existence are fascinating. Thanks for being so open about the whole process, I wish I lived in a free country so I could enjoy your guys' work.
Where do you live? North Korea?
It's a little short sighted to make "freedom" contingent on your ability to buy guns like that, don't you think?
Finally some more WWSD content ❤
Russell seems exhausted from this whole project. I'll order my lower once they are shipping.
I don't believe they are taking pre--orders?
They are doing preorders at brownells
Forgive me, I'd think rather that Russell isn't as much exhausted by this project, more what other works he and parts of gun and machinery, engineering and fabrications industries (as ore others sectors) are doing inrelation to emergency covid production of required/needed parts, componants, things to help the nation, amd suffering staff problems or issues from lockdown needs.
..if I took the hint of some of what he said inrelation to the mould design & cutting/machining being delayed etc...
@@razor1uk610 Yeah big ups to anybody trying to coordinate any kind of manufacturing development rn. I can barely handle a resturant.
Product design with plastics is kind of like being Sisyphus. I can almost be done with a job and my engineer comes to me with a change. I watch my boulder roll back down the hill and I start from the beginning.
That talk of 80% kits and the ATF really made me wonder what kind of bizarre things get passed across an ATF desk on a daily basis.
"They want to sell what? With a _what_ on it?"
Nothing should be getting passed across the ATF desk because it shouldn't exist.
Yeah but they probably don't have a sense of humor, so an application for a dildo that has an ar fcg pocket probably wouldn't get a chuckle.
Devin Cook Lol the folks who work there are the same folks who work at any desk job. Some of them will have a sense of humor, others will be your normal dummies.
Take a drink whenever Karl talks over Russell and explains his job for him
Thank you guys for putting so much work in to this for the past few years. My favorite part of wwsd is that it's not an ar build as much as it is an intellectual exercise that ends with a really cool rifle coming out of it. With the 2017 playlist, the faxon q&a, and the insight in to the industry my understanding and way of thinking about many products (not just firearms, or the ar platform) has been radically illuminated.
Karl, your intellectual humility and willingness to appear naive in an effort to learn is an admirable quality.
As an engineer who works in molding and new product development, this is awesome to see and very well explained! Very excited to see the welding process you are describing!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Russell bro you're getting better with the presentation this is better seems more comfortable
Super interesting. As a machinist and fabricator I have had to do similar R&D for customers. Vulcanizing rubber to a steel component. Locking the part into the mold is real. Just like bedding an action. Injection site and exit vent location are very critical to the products end result. Awesome job Russel. And thanks to Ian and Karl for walking us thru the concept on the way to finished product.
amazing to see the progress. Hope you guys are doing well both in life and the project :)
Our engineering high-school has a university next to it who specializes in mold measuring and there is a molding facility close. The work they do is so interesting and with the knowledge I got through them I can tell you the mold for this lower is a really professional piece of work.
Did I hear $100 for a bare lower? I'm in.
$89 from Brownells
With stock included.
@@cmikles1 The stock, grip, and buffer tube are all integrated into the lower. Pretty much the only things you need to complete the lower is a buffer and a lower parts kit. So you get a very economical and light weight lower. That's a win win in my book, and will probably help them sell a crap ton of these.
Seriously I had to watch this a couple times. I really cannot believe it’s that low. Looks like I’m building an AR soon.
Aaron Mustin For sure. I have several Tennessee Arms polymer lowers and they’ve been fantastic with only one minor issue being one hole on one receiver was drilled about a couple thousandths too small. Otherwise they’ve been great. The problem is you’re only about 2.5oz less than a standard aluminum lower. That’s still nothing to sneeze at as a percentage of weight in the stripped lower but having the buffer tube, grip and stock all in the same polymer frame has some additional weight synergies.
Nice to hear Russell sounding so engaged - obviously a subject that he knows very well. Good content guys, most informative.
Feels like watching history in the making. Just placed my pre-order!
I am a CNC programmer and I love this technical stuff
Crazy seeing how far this idea has come love it!
I didn't realize how interesting polymer manufacturing could be. I mean I would hate to be having to do that math for it but really cool.
Being a product designer who works with plastics, It's pretty cool.
The math isn't that bad, once you get into it.
Materials science here: polymers are a mess! Haha! There's a whole separate group of mechanical properties for polymers because they are all time-dependent. If you pull on a piece of plastic, it'll relax over time
Most of the math is in the CAD design and mold flow- which the computer is doing for you. Its really not that bad. The worst part is working with the mold tool builders/engineers- who are some of the grouchiest old assholes you’ll ever meet. And they tend to agree on that assessment.
@@JainZar1 I dunno I'm trying to finish discrete math right now and I'm not really enjoying it lol. I'd honestly take either calculus over it (haven't taken 3)
ooohh perfect timing i was just watching through the first WWSD playlist
Much thanks to Ian, Karl and Russell for sharing this with us.
Fascinating to hear in some depth what goes into producing something like this. Looking forward to more.
As an automation controls designer (formerly an engineer/programmer), Props on the current progress! Keep up the good work!
I work in automotive industry, and we also run 60-75 second cycle times to meet vehicle stock and purchase demands.
Kind of the overall point of such short cycle times is that given an example of 100 working areas (stations) on a single linear assembly line takes 60 seconds. That's 100 minutes or almost 2 hours to produce the product and run through the entire system. Granted after the first one, you're spitting out a new product every minute, but the initial and last build of a model is going to take that much time to fill and empty. Which in reality is the time taken for a facility to ramp up or down from cold start or shutdown.
P.s. Glad this video exists to enlighten people on tge process and running of manufacturing industry!
KE Arms milled my Glock slide for an RMR about a year ago. As a machinist myself, I was surprised at how good these guys are.
Beautifully described aspects of the lesser widely known of many differing yet related engineering principles of creating the KP15; as important as the rifle barrel deep dive videos in fostering a wider grasp of plastic & polyer particular core engineering & fabrication & production principles etc.
Thank You! & also to all those involded
Best of L*ck :P
The quality of this content is simply outstanding, and I appreciate the salesmanship of having that rifle front and center. Soon!
how inspirational to overcome so many entrepreneurial challenges
Thank you guys for developing this reciever. I am waiting for mine at the ffl right now. My polymer AR will now be
"war ready".
Perhaps the only bright spot in 2020.
I’m watching this while picturing all three as Office Space characters. Really making me happy.
SUPER excited for this, not gonna even try to hide it!
I've pre-ordered my KP15 lower already :) Can't wait to have one!
Is it just me or does russel fagan always look like he needs to be working on something important and Ian and Karl are the kids who keep pulling him away from his job. Not saying that he’s not a nice guy just it always looks like Karl and Ian are annoying him. Like in a little brother/big brother way.
Don't fool yourself
Russell isn't annoyed at Karl and Ian, he is annoyed at existence and the trivial nature of all human kind.
He seems serious. At the matches he seems like a big kid just like Ian and Karl
@Lawrence Glover That, and I don't think his use of the term "our" is meaning the same people to when Carl says "our" development. (2:30)
yeah, he always has that kinda super serious mildly exasperated look, might just be his face. i know people who just look mad all the time
@@apollosun6268 Yes, Ian and Karl have been in front of a camera for a long time now and are used to talking to a 3rd person who isn't really there. Russel is usually on camera in matches or narrative and not directly interacting with an "audience".
WWSD 2020 is looking great, you guys are the best!!!
Preordered This Months ago and slowly acquired most of the parts to build the lower.... excited for when the lowers start shipping
There's nothing quite like a great project manager, who intrinsically understands the varying inputs and challenges you face, to ensure the success of your project. Congratulations and very exciting to hear more about this :)
A lot of genuine humility in all three of these guys. That's good company right there.
this is great, thanks for the deep dive on some of the technical aspects! as an engineer this stuff is fascinating
I pre ordered mine a couple months ago. I cant wait till it shows up
the most surprising thing about this for me is how affordable it is... 100~ish bucks for a lower WITH the stock, buffer tube, and grip is a great deal, especially considering how advanced it is. you guys have a much better chance of solidifying your place in the market when it's competitively priced with standard lowers. super excited for this thing.
Thank you for the update! This is great news. Can't wait to pick up a couple.
I hope you guys realize you've made a huge step forward for 2a. Your ingenuity and dedication to technology most people forgot about has helped to ensure the American citizen (and others) can preserve and enjoy their 2nd amendments at a price level affordable to more people than ever before. 10/10 guys, thank you.
Also where's the preorder?
Also Russel, you need to calm down.
As a mold technician I understand what is involved in this, it's not simple at all. I hope to get one when they come out. Thanks for the update.
Great update. I had no idea all that was involved in this lower project. It is fascinating. Can’t wait to get one when they are available.
2 ordered. Can’t wait!
Molding sounds like a neat process, it almost reminds me of stamping for some reason
Accordian man likes plastics manufacturing???
I can't wait to see this thing in action.
We'll get there.
G36K: Our battle will be legendary!
Take your time and make it great, can’t wait to put this on my 20in upper
Good luck guys !
I really enjoyed hearing more about what goes into the molding process. Fascinating stuff :)
I'll wait for a good product here. Been really excited for this project and can't wait to purchase it when it comes to market.
Wow, so happy for your progress!
super fascinating, please keep these kind of updates coming
Super excited to get my FDE KP15 lower. Looking forward to assembling a WWSD inspired rifle.
I hope these are still on the market when I move to America someday! :)
I hope America is still there when you do! :)
@@MongooseTacticool You got that right!
Happy to have you whenever you come over.
Same here. I live in California.
These are the best value in the industry right now considering how difficult it is to find parts right now - just bought one!
I'd say, at least to me, the lower developed for this is certainly the most interesting part of the whole project. I'm certainly not in a position where I can afford to splurge on the completed rifle anytime soon (nor do I have a dire need for one, my existing gear suits my needs well enough), but a $100 lower to piece together over time I'm certainly up for. Good to see that this is still going strong, the delays, especially the ones incurred by the medical needs taking priority, are perfectly understandable.
amazing ideas, Ian asked a great question at 2.53 I wouldn't of known either!
Can't wait to get my WWSD rifle!!!
Thanks for the update guys
Great discussion, I loved it.
I can't WAIT!
Thank you for the update.
I 100% have to do this myself! With the extra material removed for if someone wants to select the 3rd option on their selector.
Just in case somebody has issues understanding the "shrinkage problem" they were talking about, Almost all materials when they are in the molten state fill higher volume compared to when they are in the solid-state. While solidification, the material starts to go through this change and it will show itself as shrinkage. This problem exists both in metal casting as well as polymers, but the difference is that the behavior of the polymers is much more complicated and less predictable by the human mind so there is the need for computer-assisted simulation to prevent errors in the final product. if they don't take this into account, it is possible that the straight line in the CAD design shows itself as curved or even wobbly.
I can't wait for this gun, to hit the market.
Aside from the successful NASA/ Space X launch, a couple good videogames, and some random miracles, this is the best 2020 thing.
Thank you! Wish I could get one, but living in Massholistan makes it impossible. But hopefully someday!
As a machinist seeing this is way cool
Cant wait!!!!
After the 1st WWSD series a few buddies and I were drinking and talking about the project. More as a joke than anything I went online and bought the cheapest polymer lower I could find and budget build kit. You know, "for science!" I slapped the garbage rifle together and was pleasantly surprised at how much it doesn't suck. Having said that, I totally expect the lower to snap in half any day now. I am exited to sample the other end of the plastic fantastic world and compare the two.
can’t wait!
Great discussion.
Woohoo! Great job folks! :)
Yay!
Watched on both two drive views baby !!!
Yay
Pre-order into brownells. I don't know what I'm going to use it for, but I want one!
Fascinating. 👍👍👍
2:54 is the most emotion I've seen come out of Russell
Big lad actually laughed, holy shit
Going to buy one of these so fast once they're out.
I seen someone say they placed a pre-order
I'm more partial to the SCR, but would be cool to have one in OD, with an A1-style OD hand guard.
Im gonna run this lower like a scolded dog. I'll get back to you guys on longevity.
Just pre-ordered 2 of them in black. It should sit nicely next to the original cav-15 in green I have.
If only NY was a Free State... Very cool work.
You can still have this, granted you’d have to make the 10rd mag permanent
You can buy the lower and build whatever the hell you want. Screw Cuomo.
you're free to move? Arizona always has cheap houses available. Pretty high turnover rate given the permanent snowbird population.
At least it's only part of your country that isn't free.
Greetings from the UK...........
Change New Yorkistan back into New York!
It look like, to do things right, is far more complicated, than it seems form the start point. You gone thru a very steep learning curve here. Like the old telling say: „Dem Ingenieur ist nichts zu schwör“
Tipping my head Sir. Russel!
WWSD 2020 - he'd make the best darn respirator!
On my list to get.
That's very cool, there really are some amazing polymers about these days - the VLF glass or carbon filled resins that are available now are starting to rival aluminium. It really wouldn't surprise me if we started to see crazy things like polymer gearbox casings in the near future.
Thermal conductivity is not good for most polymers but you might be able to so active cooling or a additonal heat sink.
Was a little sad to hear you can only get a lower with the pdq lever cut as a complete rifle as I built a wwsd upper last year and was really hoping to just buy a completed lower with one. All the same I'm really excited to see this succeed, it looks like this is going to be an amazing product done right. Thanks guys!