I tried out the new Two Thin Coats paints from Duncan Rhodes!
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- čas přidán 12. 09. 2024
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I backed the Kickstarter for Duncan Rhodes' paint range myself and it finally arrived! I tested some colours out on my Twitch streams and was waiting to find the right model to paint fully with the new paints so it was the perfect time to paint a beautifully detailed 3D print from Ghamak Miniatures, who are the sponsors of this video! Check out what I thought of the new paint range from @DuncanRhodesDRPA and see why I was so surprised!
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I think there’s always something to be said about pure and simple clean layering style and how good it looks. I think these paints are made well for that, as the video shows. Good job!
Agree completely - I feel loads more satisfaction from layering up from a primer and taking my time - results to be proud of and I find it more relaxing too
Thank you so much and yes it has unlocked something in me. So let’s see what 2023 brings.
I also bought the full paint range to support Duncan. I like the philosophy behind the triad system & I think it’s a real boon for folks getting into miniatures. Knowing which paints work together in a progression from dark to light really helps. I also like the formulation of the various paints.
I hope Duncan can scale up production & get on store shelves with these at some point.
There already on shelves in some places so that’s good.
I've been very curious about these paints ever since the announcement. Duncan got me started in mini painting with his tutorials from his Games Workshop days. Those videos are still the gold standard for painting videos as far as I'm concerned.
The coverage on them seems really good and you are right, yellow is a great thing to judge a range on. That is the colour that many manufacturers will struggle with getting right.
Yes Duncan is a great guy and I believe has made a great line of paints.
"I steer clear of yellows wherever I can" says an Imperial Fists fan boy 🤣
Hahaha a fan boy who struggles to get an army together lol
I backed the Kickstarter. I haven't used the majority of them yet, but the ones that I have used have been very nice. I loved the black and the reds especially and also the brown wash. I've seen some people have had trouble with certain colors being really thick when they got them, but I haven't encountered that yet either. I'm glad you tried the yellow triad in the video. I think it turned out really good.
I used them from a wet pallet so they were all silky smooth for me.
I like this series of paint range testing videos, but honestly my favorite part is watching you use techniques outside your comfort zone and being so pleased with the results.
Aw man, that’s really nice to hear!! I was really pleasantly surprised how well this guy turned out and I was very excited 😄 thanks so much for that!
Great video! Great to see the results you achieved in contrast without messing around with washes.
I just got wave 1 and 2 and cannot wait to pain up some minis this weekend!
Oh sweet enjoy them! Really love using them, just trust the triads!
I really like it and I think that’s the best painted flesh I’ve seen. The transition between the three layers was so smooth. Awesome work.
I also really enjoyed it the finish on these paints is great as well
Really appreciate that pal
Based on the reviews I’ve seen so far these seem like really solid paints, I’m planning to pick up the metallics specifically once my GW ones run out, and maybe swapping out more of my paints for the other matching GW colors over time. Since I don’t have to take the time to transfer these to dropper bottles.
Solid idea. The metallics seam really good.
I was interested in these paints when the kickstarter launched but didn't have the funds to take part in it. Glad to hear the reviews of them seem to be consistent with minor differences but they seem to be opinion based while the overall consensus is they are solid paints. I hope my local place stocks them so I can try them out myself
Great video as always Andy :)
I know element games has them already so I guess they will indeed be in all stores soon
I think that came out great. I had originally wanted to back this kickstarter but it came at a bad time for me. The paints look good. Once it's widely available I'm sure I'll be picking some up.
You should pal. Try buy them in the triads and give them a go n
while the Duncan paints seem nice I am a bit worried about the price... At the moment they apparently are more expensive than Citadel everywhere I've looked, almost along the lines of Scale 75 and Monument Hobbies but no one who has reviewed the Duncan paints can ever give a good reason for it since the quality of them don't seem to match the more premium miniature paint brands. It just seems weird to make them so expensive when there already are so many paint brands out there doing pretty much the same thing.
I only checked them there after I read shout message. And yes I am now to a little surprise by the price. Seams a bit strange. But maybe it had to do with being manufactured in England. Mite be causing problems.
That’s a great result! I love that paint companies like TTC and Reaper and the new Army Painter have triads for newer painters like me!
I need to check more of them out for sue e
I had wondered how well these paints would work and your review answered a lot of questions I had. I agree that yellow is a real test of a manufactures paint and the color went on very nicely. Thanks for making this and sharing it.
Anytime pal. Glad you liked it
You’ve done a great job painting this model. I’m a big fan of painting triads. Love Vallejo paints but a lack of a triad make it more difficult for me as a paint by numbers hobbyists. Hope to see Duncan succeed with this venture and thanks for posting.
Anytime pal. And yes I am the same. The easier the company can make it the more likely I am to use it.
Hello, first of all, I'm impressed by the results! About "triad coulour system", I purchased the book Foundry Miniatures Painting & Modeling Guide by Kevin Dallimore which is in depth tutorial of miniatures painting using this principle. The cool stuff about this book is it teaches you by using 1 layer, then 2 layer then 3 layer and the result you should expect. There is one particular minis where he compares the 3 "level" of painting. I recommend you to look for this book as it will apply superbly with Duncan's paint range. Good job!
Thank you so much that is really helpful. I will for sure get a copy.
That's some pretty amazing work. I kind of dig how that turned out, and you were 100% right about those flesh tones
Cheers pal. Glad you liked it x
Very Nice... reminds me of the P3 triad System. Your paint looked very clean and you have a steady hand.. turned out get! I may have to pick these up.
Thanks pal. I’m quite pleased with how it turned out and ye there worth a try I already signed up to wave two.
I really am down with the triad system. My biggest issue when painting is knowing what colors to use for the base, med, higlight color. I'm bummed I missed the kickstarter on this! I would of backed it for the full set for sure. Do we know when thy will be released and we can purchase them? I'd love to get a few triad sets myself! P.S. your model looked freaking amazing btw!
Thank you so much pal. Very kind. I know you can start getting them in shops from now. I know element games has them already.
I’m super impressed with how the yellow trousers turned out!
Ye I really like how they turned out as well.
GW has been using the triad system for a long time now. The problem with how GW sells and DR sells it, is that GW runs interference with their washes, and you forget that you CAN just layer up from Bugman's and etc. Either way, that mini looks SUPER nice!
Cheers pal. Ye I agree they for sure have it in place they just don’t talk about it a lot.
I got my paint set a few weeks ago and now that I see them in action I am set on what to use on my first 75mm miniature
That’s awesome pal. Enjoy it.
My game shop just started carrying these. Picked up a bottle of Dragon's Gold, as I was looking for a Retributor replacement, and damn is it a good paint. Went ontop of a black primer with two coats and looks great.
Yes I really thought at first it would just be an average paint brand with an influencer's name but I should have known better from Duncan-it's super good! and yes the metallics are are awesome
I think I must have bought the same level of kickstarter that you did, because our boxes have identical contents. I haven't tried the paints yet because my autistic brain is locked on using up some of what I already have before getting stuck into Duncan's paints.
I'm glad the triad system is working for you Andy, and I'm hoping to have similar success. I really did get the paints based on Duncan's reputation alone, and so far there's been a lot of good feedback. I know Ninjon was a little "meh" on the subject and pretty much dismissed the triad system altogether, but that's a fine looking rat ogre you've painted up. I for one appreciate the triad idea because I'm not the best at selecting an appropriate shadow, midtone, and highlight.
I think you and me think in a very similar way pal.
Holy Christ 😱 nice result ☺️ is it possible to se the primer highlights underneath so u know where to put the highlight
This might help! czcams.com/video/51Hx1uTmtSw/video.html
That looks brilliant for a simple solution to painting up mini's. Was it expensive to buy?
For the full backing a few years ago it was €200
Now this is a video I will enjoy watching. Let's see what you say and if this changes anything:) Vallejo is such a superb color-manufacter and my go-to :-)
Besides it's quite interesting to see you deviate from the contrasts
Yeah for me everything gets compared to Vallejo, great paint for a very accessible price. And the amount of grays and browns is just lovely! The only thing I find Vallejo is lacking is a Mephiston Red equivalent.
Unfortunate Duncan’s paints seem to be pretty pricey for Citadel sized bottles. If you try some let me know how they compare 😂
@@sweatilaa5325 hmm i think vallejo's bloody red is very similar to mephiston red, isn't it? i only have vallejo's heavy red, it's a bit darker than mephiston red so i can't say for sure :P
@@ecMonify and bloody red is too bright :p
It’s a very good match for Evil Suns Scarlet. So as far as I know there is a bit of a gap there, which is annoying since I started painting my Blood Ravens with Mephiston Red as the mid tone. But I’ll probably give a few other reds a go, I’ve noticed I enjoy painting red so they won’t go to waste :)
Appreciate that pal. And it interesting that you want to see me move away from contrast. I mite just do that every now and again.
I note that the box included a pack of steel shakers but I don’t think you mentioned whether you added these to the paint before use, or made any comment on how much shaking they need, which is a topic of concern with some paints. It seems a bit strange that the manufacturer has apparently recognised the importance of thorough mixing to the extent of including steel shakers in the Kickstarter sets, but not put them in the paint as a standard feature, as quite a few other companies do.
There extra once. All the pots have them in them already. The little bag was a stretch goal.
I see. Thank you for the clarification.
I don’t think the triads are wrong it’s slightly exaggerated but I think at the scale you have too I started exaggerating my layer steps and it started looking better.
I get what you mean. I loved how they all turned out.
How smooth were the metallics to work with? My GW metallics are starting to dry up and I'd love to replace them with dropper bottles
they're very nice. much better consistency than GW's and just as good a finish. I use army painter metallics on rank and file troops where I don't care as much about the outcome, and GW metallics on stuff like Heresy marines. I think the AP metallics are fine, but I would happily replace them and the citadel metallics just with the duncan paints. Only issue I've had overall is that the washes are thick and very dark, and quite matt so not what I'm used to, and the paint is thick af in the bottle after a long time in transit, so you need to shake em good.
There really good. I enjoyed them. I’ve only played with the silver so far.
Hey, what brushes do you use for your videos? And do you use brush-care products?
99% of the time there standard gamesworkshop brushes and 99% of the time just a rinse with water.
@@MediocreHobbies And you manage to keep the tip for some time? All the brushes I use tend to basically turn into small flat brushes after a while. They still serve their use for 95% of the models, but smaller details can be problematic to do with those.
Can you buy the full set yet? I’ve only seen them available individually
I don’t know what there plans are for sets. My set was from the Kickstarter
@@MediocreHobbies no worries thanks for your reply 👍
Would love to know if you’ve been using TTC on the regular now the range has expanded too.
I do! For work I still mostly use citadel paints in GW tutorials to keep things simple but even then I sneak in the TTC skin tones-I love the range
@@MediocreHobbies great stuff, fell in love with their Wyvern green and Sanguine Red trios similarly.
Do you still have to thin those paints or are they already pre thinned
I didn’t thin them! I do use a wet palette though so it’s not straight from the pot
@@MediocreHobbies ok cool thanks for that info keep up the great work
good job.
Cheers pal.
Who'd have thought a rat would have such well conditioned hair?
He conditions.
Looks great BTW.
@@Henveymick cheers pal.
Look like nice paints but seem pricey.
Ye I hadn’t checked individual proves before making the video. They are a little pricey.
Seriously?????
Not to drop dimes on anyone or any company. Ive actually enjoyed some of this guys vids, really.
BBBUUUuuttttttt,
ARMY PAINTER put this out about a year ago.
I actually thought i was looking at AP when he opened the box.
They just put this guys name on it.
I don’t about other people who will watch this but I AM NOT STUPID and really don’t think others are.
Its Army Painter concept with another name. Come on at least come up with another name.
I’m actually looking at AP air paints flyer with EXACT same concept except the color wheel.
Unless, it is an Army Painter trying to push their same product with Rhodes name on it.
If it is, I’m even more flabbergasted AND DISGUSTED that it would be pushed to jack up price.
Your message confuses me. Are you annoyed with the triad system? Because that is in no way a new concept. I have army painter and these paints. I like both.
So, I just got kicked from the new Wave 2 kickstarter for criticizing the way they handled Tax. There was a small notice at the very bottom of the campaign. They did not apply tax when you pledged, instead they added 20% when you went to the backer portal and were paying for postage. I, as well as many others, were not happy about this and expressed our displeasure in the comments. Instead of talking to me and expaining or sorting the problem. They just fully kicked me from the campaign. This is terrible behaviour from this company. I will never buy these paints again.
That’s unfortunate, sorry dude! I’m not associated with them, I just backed their Kickstarter myself and tried out their paints for a video!
It’s called 2 thin coats because your suppose to thin the paint you layered it so thick your under painting was then a pointless step
Agree to disagree!
My problem with this system is the so called "triads" are not actually triads. Just because 3 paints are VAGUELY in the same color family does not make them actual triads of light medium and dark. Having painted with Reapers (actual) triad paint system, these just are not real triads, its just marketing. Its super apparent with what your showed. That barbarian bollox is not anywhere near the shade of dwarf dong you put over it.
Also the names are as stupid as GWs. Why can't anyone just name stuff "red" and "dark red" anymore. It just makes it a pain in the ass color matching. You don't see this with professional level oil paints. Just our stupid hobby supplies. I can go into any artist supply and find "Burnt Sienna" from 5 different companies.
The names are so the stand out and can be copyrighted. It’s more interesting and fun. I’d hate if every paint line had the same names what would be the point in buying them. And as for them not being triads. I like the results I got a lot so maybe there not that bad.
and you never use them, only contrasts, over and over again...
I use them quite a bit on my stream. As for my videos I stuck with games workshop paints when doing gamesworkshop miniatures as that’s the brand most people watching will have. I’m not a big fan of creators making how to videos that require paint from 6 different brands to achieve the average painter will not have that. And my use of contrast is to help people get bacecoats on your models really fast. I appreciate your smart comment I hope it made you feel good to write it. have a nice weekend.
were do you get the box set and how much are they
You 3D print them. All details are in the description of the video
Are these available to buy yet?
They are now starting to appear on shelves yes. Element games has them for sure.