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- čas přidán 11. 09. 2024
- 2024 IIHF Ice Hockey World Championship
Preliminary Round | Prague Arena | Group A
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That 3rd period was just breathtaking. I came back late, tired but I have just been so hooked !
Thank you and respect to both team despite not liking very much the player Dubois ;-)
Couldn't hold to say it!. #98 Martin Nečas just played an outstanding game !
what don't you like about Dubois other than he's a shitty player and shouldn't even be on Team Canada with the season he had this year. Czechs have Pasta (who gave away the puck on the winning goal), Nečas, Zacha. Other than Bedard who has done nothing this tournament, we don't have single elite player...Why weren't there spots left open for players like Mckinnon or Makar if they wanted to join...We should have kept Celebrini over friggin JLB...wtf. Nečas had an ok but nothing extraordinary. The only player who truly had an outstanding game was Cozens...I'm not sure about your hockey knowledge.
I'm glad that we (Canada) got what we needed out of this game - 1 point to finish first in the group... but from a Czech perspective, after the 3rd goal, why did they look like they were playing for OT? They knew the stakes, right?
(Czechia needed to win in regulation to overtake Canada for first place in the group)
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It was a great game…and I am proud of how this Country has hosted the WC. But I’m going to go on a little rant here.
I’m Canadian…I’ve lived in Prague for over 30 years…but over those 30 years I have found Czech fans to some of the worst in terms of being Canada haters…and for me this is hard because growing as a kid in the 60’s in Canada and playing hockey at a competitive level…my father always explained to us why we should cheer for the (then ) Czechoslovakia… especially against the Soviets. I know that Many Europeans dislike how we play…but the Czechs are especially hostile. North American Hockey and European Hockey for a long time were two different worlds, but over the years of international competition and the influx of European players in to the NHL…and Canadian players in European leagues..the game has merged to combine the best of both worlds…and where that all comes together at it’s best is in the NHL. I know a lot of European hockey fans don’t understand the physical game we play in North America…they claim to think “fighting” is primitive…yet in the dozen or more NHL exhibition and now reg season games I’ve gone to in Europe…the fans love the Physical brand of hockey…they love the hard hitting fast pace and I can tell you they were on their feet when players dropped the gloves and went at it. The hypocrisy at IIHF events drives me nuts. Czech fans whistle every time a Czech player falls down near a Canadian player or receives solid open ice check or taken into the boards…guess what Hockey is a contact sport…and these are big boys who can take care of themselves. They whistle when there’s a little pushing and shoving after the whistle and of course it’s only the Canadians who push and shove or get their sticks up…for the love of god it’s hockey not Soccer (Football). They didn’t whistle when a Canadian player took a high stick drawing blood…and got only 2 when it should have been a double minor. They whistle when a Czech player takes solid hit but cheer when a Canadian player takes good solid hit from a Czech player. I mean They should cheer if there is a good solid check on a Canadian player…we all do in the US or Canada when that happens…but we don’t boo (whistle) when one of our guys takes good clean solid hit..we know it's part of the game. Czechs whistle when (for example) A Canadian player trips or holds a Czech player even when that player is called for it and goes to the box…they are booing (whistling) the player even though he is called for it and they get a man advantage. At NHL games fans don’t boo an opposition player for taking a penalty but they might boo the refs for missing a call or a no call. Czechs whistle through entire Canadian powerplay when Canada touches the puck, even though it’s their player in the box that took the penalty. In the NHL the fans don’t boo the opposing team every time they touch the puck on a powerplay…it would be ridiculous. Fans might boo the refs if the other teams score a goal on a power play where they felt the call was really bogus…but they aren’t booing the other team for…well…being the other team and scoring. For me this isn’t just being a good supportive fan…it shows a kind of immature lack of understanding of the game…it’s kind of embarrassing frankly. I will be the first to criticize Canadian teams over the years of sometimes lacking discipline, but it’s only hurt themselves…and yes sometimes it’s not been a good look. But I think we’ve learned over the years to be more disciplined because it has hurt us…we’ve learned that we have to keep our heads and try not to take stupid penalties…we still play our brand of game but we have to play smart because we know every team wants to beat us and will play their best game against us and will goad us into taking stupid emotional undisciplined penalties. European players know they can get under our skin and we’ve learned more and more to not let our emotions get the better of us. What a lot of Europeans don’t seem to realise is that in Canada we are expected to win…even if we know that we don’t own the game and that are great Hockey nations and players besides us. No players play under as much pressure as Canadian players…they are under so much fan and media scrutiny…if we don’t win gold it’s a complete failure and national shame. No other hockey nation puts as much unfair pressure on their players to win as Canada does. The Czech team might be under pressure to win at home this year…but if they don’t they won’t get crucified in the media and from their fans for not winning. This is something I don’t think European Hockey fans can understand…but European hockey players playing in the NHL totally get it…they know how much Hockey matter to Canadians…they know how much pressure Canadian players are under…I remember talking to Petr Neved at his bar here in Prague…about it…(he played for team Canada) after he defected and before he was allowed to have dual citizenship. He said even as a Czech playing for Canada, the pressure was like nothing he could have imagined…it was overwhelming. Yes Canada deserves some of it’s reputation…but I find among all the major European hockey nations, Czech fans are most hateful towards Canadian hockey teams. But Canada has changed it’s game a lot over the years. We have won gold 4 of the last 8 years with not close to our best players and we played clean, disciplined, smart hockey. Just as European players have evolved and taken pages from our book, we have done the same from European hockey. I makes me sad that here in my “home” of 30 years that Czech fans have so much hate for Canadian teams…especially when we have supported them for years. I don’t experience that hate in other European countries when I’ve gone to games. Canadian families have opened their homes to young Czech players who are far from home to come to play Major Junior Hockey taking them in as family…their Junior teammates take them on as brothers…and every Czech player will tell you that. I was living in Calgary when after the Mac’s International Midget tournament, Czech 17 year old star player Petr Nedved decided he wanted to defect…the Canadian family who he was staying with protected him and called the Embassy and the RCMP to help him. The Police took Nedved to jail…not to punish him…but to keep him safe from the Czech Team officials who obviously didn’t want him to stay. We took care of him and didn’t give in to political pressure from the Czech government or team officials. We protected him until the Czechs finally realized they weren’t going to get him and they left…He was a hero for us and he was treated like it. Frantisek Musil was our neighbor in Calgary and he and his family were treated as part of the community. Canadians gave the Czech National team and especially Goaltender Vladimir Dzurilla a standing ovation after the Czechoslovakia beat the Soviets in the round Robin at the 1976 Canada cup tournament. I remember my dad and I watching and cheering on Czechoslovakia in 1969 when they beat the Soviets at the Worlds in Stockholm. Little did I know that (25 years later) I would call this country home and has been for 30 years. In 2015 when the Worlds were hosted here and Canada beat the Czechs 2-0 in the Semi-finals…Canadian fans were harassed by Czech fans after the game some of them throwing bottles and a group of Czech fans stood around and cheered while they burned the Canadian flag…I’m no nationalist but I will never forget that!! In the final Between Canada and Russia (that I went to) Czech fans booed (Whistled) every time a Canadian player touched the puck or scored…they were actually cheering for friggin Russia…I just lost it and turned around and yelled “do prdele have you forgotton 1968”!!...I mean really cheering for Russia against Canada…I was so disappointed in fans of a country I have supported over the years and have called my home. I’m not saying all Czech fans are like this…but I’m so tired of all the hate towards our team…when over the the years, we as a country have taken in so many Czech players at young ages and away from family…when we have never been hostile towards Czech teams…in fact just the opposite. I just want to say to some of you Czech fans.... grow up and get over yourself!!! We have been your friends and supporters over the years…many of those very dark years.
I have to preface this with a qualifier, that I do not follow hockey that closely, mostly only during WC, just don't have the time for that and my sport is different (Canadian) one. To say that our media is not harsh towards our team isn't quite a fair assesment I'd say, however the "brand" of harshness is different - that the teams overall aren't that good anymore, that the guys suck compared to the team thet won the "golden hattrick", etc. I have to agree with you, that cheering for Russia just because they play agains Canada is stupid, but some people just are. Hell there still exists a Communist party and there exist people who are voting for them. However, certain hostility towards Canada and the US is to be expected, for several reasons. 1) Sometimes we do not feel respected either by players (I've heard that for example Gretzky is still pissed about some loss to us in shootout, that we just beat them in a "skill competition" and that it should not count,...) or by the fans, media and so on. 2) this one is not only towards Canada, but there is sometimes percieved bias from the refs. Like borderline calls being called only against us, the other side being let free, or allowed a goal from offside, because the head ref was "shopping" so that we won't play against his country, injuring hits being punished only mildly... I do not recall the exact games from the top of my head, but some of my friends could cite a long list of percieved and actual wrongs that have been done to us. From this game I can only ask, why at 2:02:45 that wasn't another penalty - stick right between the legs, catching one - seems like textbook case of tripping to me (and our comentators, one of whom played for years, even in the national team) 3) kinda following the theme, some feel that the players from US and Canada are cut a lot more slack, in the NHL. For exaple Hertl had his career impacted by his knee injury - have heard that he was in the running for RotY, which someone couldn't stomach and broke his knee, basically for being "too good" and he more or less got away with it. Hertl is still good, but who knows how much better he could've been without the injury. I have personal experience that as soon as the tendons are hurt, it never is 100% again. 4) That is mostly due to unfortunate timing of the WC with NHL, but some people may feel biased against CA&US because the NHL teams won't sometimes allow out players to play. It is understandable from the teams perspective and may hurt the respective national teams in the same way, but with talentpool 3x, resp 30x as big it hurts less. There might be more, but those are few I can rattle off just like that. And as far as the cheering and booing goes, I get that you might feel it is riddiculous, it even may be to some extent. But as a fan you're allowed to be biased in favour of your team. And even if both hits may be of the same "clenliness" level, you understandably feel better about your teams hots than the other way around. And there is a reason why I've heard the overseas players praise the atmosphere, preffering it to the home one. This bias allows the fans to cheer and react to the whole game, which allegedly both teams enjoy. I know how it feels to play a game against a team with very passionate and to us hostile fans. (Granted, the people do not count in thousands, just in tenths, but sill) You can feel it, in a way, the enery of the crowd. But it does not disturb in a negative way, for me at least, even the negative "cheering" can energize, esp. when you've just scored against them. So is it fair? For sure not. Is it right? Who am I to judge, especially if the players enjoy it. It might just be a cultural difference. Also heard that when Canada hosts, the stadiums are far from full - unless Canada or US plays - while here as far as I've read basically every game is at or near full capacity (probably the geographical location also helps immensely, it is not that far for many nations playing). So while I appreciate you and your dad's support (as meaningless as my appreciation is), especially in the early days, you are (afaik) in the minority. The thing that I agree is absolutely despicable is harassing the opposing fans. Although it sort of comes with the passion for supoorting your team and the opposing fans being a proxy for the opposing team. And if you've been here for years as you say, you must've heard about soccer hooligans, so as sad as it is, it ain't that far of a reach in the minds of some people. But even just a few bad apples can make the whole barrel smell...