There's Nothing Left To Ruin

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  • čas přidán 2. 07. 2023
  • Hollywood has finally done it - there's nothing left for them to wreck

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  • @5roundsrapid263
    @5roundsrapid263 Před 11 měsíci +206

    Kathleen wept, for she had no more franchises to ruin…

    •  Před 11 měsíci +4

      May the force be with her.

    • @DreamingDarlin
      @DreamingDarlin Před 11 měsíci +3

      She's probably saying, "Hold my beer"!

    • @charlesroyal5125
      @charlesroyal5125 Před 10 měsíci +3

      Biblical

    • @poiuyt975
      @poiuyt975 Před 10 měsíci +1

      She had never been Great though. ;-)

    • @andrewdiez8353
      @andrewdiez8353 Před 10 měsíci

      Hey hey hey! Cheer up Kathy, now someone else can waltz in and.obliterate all your "strong female leads and female legacy characters" !
      Ain't payback a bitch?

  • @5Mariner
    @5Mariner Před 11 měsíci +365

    A note to anyone currently writing their own franchise. NEVER sell the rights to Disney!

    • @chpsilva
      @chpsilva Před 11 měsíci +58

      Never lose grip of your intellectual property, actually.

    • @Crudeliciousbops
      @Crudeliciousbops Před 11 měsíci +14

      @@chpsilvalike Rowling.

    • @TheOutlando
      @TheOutlando Před 11 měsíci +9

      Tolkien did that in his will, little did he know about Amazon these days. ^^

    • @iamthewizardwhoknocks2845
      @iamthewizardwhoknocks2845 Před 11 měsíci +4

      Disney won't have any money buy anything soon.

    • @warrenbradford2597
      @warrenbradford2597 Před 10 měsíci +3

      Nor, any greedy company for that matter. Looking at you Konami! As Clownfish TV said, we must own our own IPs.

  • @tezzabhoy1888
    @tezzabhoy1888 Před 11 měsíci +443

    They still have a massive desire to ruin Back to the Future

    • @huro1845
      @huro1845 Před 11 měsíci +53

      Don't jinx it! 🙏 I hope Zemeckis outlives all of those people who want to touch those movies!

    • @atomicdancer
      @atomicdancer Před 11 měsíci +27

      Oh yeah, *Back to the Future* . . .
      Come on, Hollywood - Martina McFly and Doctor Emma Brown . . .
      DO IT - - - DO IT NAO!!! 😬🤪🥴🙃😵🤡😡😱😧😭😬
      🔥🔥 L E T ' S B U R N I T A L L D O W N ! ! 🔥🔥

    • @mattcolver1
      @mattcolver1 Před 11 měsíci +55

      They're drooling over the chance to ruin that franchise.

    • @Shark-R900
      @Shark-R900 Před 11 měsíci +24

      I would never want to see Tom Holland's name all over back to the future

    • @kokomo74149
      @kokomo74149 Před 11 měsíci +21

      If I remember correctly there's an ironclad contract on back to the future stating they can never make another. I don't think that ends when someone dies. Creative property stays with the family at the least.
      Is there the opportunity to try to manipulate it from the family? Yes but that would take some time. You know there will be numerous family members who want a cut so they would have to go through probate first. Hopefully tying it up until after We're gone. Lol
      I wouldn't go see it. I'd probably give free viewings of the original movies. Lol

  • @thibaud1832
    @thibaud1832 Před 11 měsíci +107

    How does it feel to have lived long enough to have seen all your favorite franchises go down in flames?

    • @iqvoice
      @iqvoice Před 11 měsíci +13

      It feels great!

    • @Otokichi786
      @Otokichi786 Před 11 měsíci +19

      We still have the old stories, books, and DVDs. Let the "fires on the plain" burn on, people will find the oasis of the public library, old book store, etc. Movies and TV aren't the only outlets of imagination.

    • @VinceLyle2161
      @VinceLyle2161 Před 11 měsíci +14

      Not bad. I watch movies, not franchises, first of all. And like another poster said, there are thousands of movies from the last 90 years that are at least pretty good. I watched one from 1936 that was really entertaining last month.

    • @dbass9544
      @dbass9544 Před 10 měsíci +5

      @@Otokichi786very much agree. Ironically, its never been easier to NOT watch new content since the old, better content is so readily available.

    • @NoidoDev
      @NoidoDev Před 9 měsíci +1

      We will see them rise again, either after they'll need the money after the next financial crash or because of AI in the hands of small creators which might even not care about copyright.

  • @KingEgyptian
    @KingEgyptian Před 11 měsíci +273

    What makes this all the more painful is that all of these franchises could have still thrived if these filmmakers had an ounce of creativity and passion.

    • @toddpoppleton5303
      @toddpoppleton5303 Před 11 měsíci +29

      Maybe if the filmmakers could just pretend they don’t loathe the fans.

    • @mrburton8842
      @mrburton8842 Před 11 měsíci +25

      They have loads of passion... Just not for films.

    • @dr.elvis.h.christ
      @dr.elvis.h.christ Před 11 měsíci

      And now those talentless crybabies are on strike! Let them all go! TIme to let some indie artists and producers have a chance.

    • @lefantomer
      @lefantomer Před 11 měsíci +10

      @@mrburton8842 Also 4:13: Yes there is, and let them write their own Great Stories, I'm tired of seeing mine ripped off.

    • @michaelwills1926
      @michaelwills1926 Před 11 měsíci +7

      It’s an agenda, all this hero stuff has to go. It’s that simple.

  • @backgroundnoise9310
    @backgroundnoise9310 Před 11 měsíci +240

    Something new will born from this ruin. There's always something else to come along.

    • @TheGreatSnafoo
      @TheGreatSnafoo Před 11 měsíci

      I'd like to know what that might be, because Hollywood hasn't been able to come up with anything new in decades, all they've done is; rehash, regurgitate, and reboot old IP's.

    • @brockglock3035
      @brockglock3035 Před 11 měsíci +19

      Maybe they will actually CREATE something???

    • @mrconroy4672
      @mrconroy4672 Před 11 měsíci +19

      If it's independent, there may be a chance.

    • @AdamDj-ic3kr
      @AdamDj-ic3kr Před 11 měsíci +11

      Yet starring across this barren wasted land I feel new life will be born beneath the bloodstained sand

    • @nicholastotoro7721
      @nicholastotoro7721 Před 11 měsíci +14

      They'll find something. Willow was a stretch, since it really wasn't a hot property when it was new, yet they still ruined it. What's next? They'll just ruin Fraggle Rock or something as meaningless, just for the sake of it.

  • @teeznyarlathotep8700
    @teeznyarlathotep8700 Před 11 měsíci +58

    Echo Chamberlain: "There's nothing left to ruin." Hollywood: "Hold my Bud Light."

    • @alpyki2588
      @alpyki2588 Před 11 měsíci +10

      Yep. I remember thinking almost a decade ago, "They're making another Dark Shadows movie? Have they run out of ideas?" Boy was I wrong.
      They will continue to either remake everything the higher ups remember slightly being a thing, and pilfering from works not already movie properties until nothing of value is left. We're going to see levels in about the next decade or so the likes of which we've never seen. I'm not talking "they've remade Casablanca," levels, I'm talking about "they've remade what? The Abominable Dr. Phibes?"
      They'll attempt to grab every piece of matter on the way down the hole they dug for themselves, and none of it will be enough to safe Hollywood's bloated mass.

  • @julianstorm7722
    @julianstorm7722 Před 11 měsíci +110

    "Modern cinema has the uncanny feel of watching cosplay, except with the real people" - Chamberlain
    Great analogy. Thanks for your sane words. Cheers

    • @dhu1919
      @dhu1919 Před 11 měsíci +14

      It's like shitty fanfics got produced by major Hollywood studios.

  • @Dinosreviews
    @Dinosreviews Před 11 měsíci +16

    To quote The Kingdom of the Crystal Skull.
    “We seem to have reached the age where life stops giving us things and starts taking them away.”

  • @scottsommer9843
    @scottsommer9843 Před 11 měsíci +78

    I have three major identifiers to know whether a film will be good or bad.
    1. When the writers and director at any point say "this was written for modern audiences." That right there is all I need to hear to know that they are gonna force insert a minority (black, gay, trans, etc. Bonus point if all.)
    2. If a known woke actress is gonna be in it. (Pheobe Waller-Bridge comes to mind. She always plays the "strong independant wahmen that treats men like shit.)
    3. When talk about diversity ALOT.

    • @Moolers
      @Moolers Před 9 měsíci +1

      Diversity is the number one for me. Not that there's anything wrong with diversity in itself, but when that's all you can talk about, you just know it's going to suck because clearly nothing else was important.

  • @MichaelCravith
    @MichaelCravith Před 11 měsíci +231

    They could have proved everybody wrong on this one by delivering the best possible film. A great sendoff (as though Indiana Jones actually needs one when he already had it 34 years ago, but whatever). Instead, they did exactly what all of us have expected they would since the announcement of the film.

    • @Allustar
      @Allustar Před 11 měsíci

      Sideline the namesake of the Indiana Jones series for a bitchy “strong woman” character?
      (I’m not calling her that because I don’t believe women can be strong. I’m calling her that because she’s just another bad woman protagonist with an incredibly shallow character.)

    • @lefantomer
      @lefantomer Před 11 měsíci +4

      @clotshot9459 AND they managed to disrespect the Antikythera device or however you spell it.

    • @orrorsaness5942
      @orrorsaness5942 Před 11 měsíci +1

      @clotshot9459Indeed! And in the meantime, The Pensuke Files goes against this communist woke nonesense!

    • @sevenchambers
      @sevenchambers Před 11 měsíci

      @clotshot9459True. People don’t realize it’s all apart of the one world government agenda.

    • @brandonscott5544
      @brandonscott5544 Před 11 měsíci

      HOLLYWOOD PRODUCTS MOVIES AND SHOWS FAILURE GARAGE 🗑

  • @lance134679
    @lance134679 Před 11 měsíci +39

    I have to hand it to them. They knew their mission and carried it out completely, destroying all our favourite old legacy characters. Now they can sit on their throne of ashes.

  • @eraserhead6198
    @eraserhead6198 Před 11 měsíci +30

    I think what’s most insulting and aggravating is there’s never any palpable change that comes from their own failures. They’re just rewarded more and more projects.

  • @lodrezzon
    @lodrezzon Před 11 měsíci +168

    You finally described current Hollywood perfectly; strip mining! These people suck the last value out of any property they acquire, not intending to continue building a quality product for future consumption, but to extract any value / monetization from an existing show or franchise, based on the nostalgia value the property still possesses; properties they had no hand in creating. I wouldn't mind it if they declared that was their intention, but the endless interviews and red carpet faunings about how these 'creators' are so excited about their modern interpretations of these classic characters, and all the new diversity and inclusion these updated stories contain to reach a wider audience, sickens me. These people have no talent, no creativity, no vision, and no soul. We live in the world of glorified fan fiction, where these awkward, socially inept writers place narrative surrogates of themselves into iconic stories, so that they can feel cool too despite having no place in the story. A kind of narrative stolen valor; like getting your picture taken with discount Chewie or Greedo at a Disney Star Wars photo-op. Anyone with a 100 IQ can be taught to write a sentence, but to be a Tolkien, Lucas, or Hemmingway requires more. In the race for the next viral hit, studios are literally throwing billions of dollars at the walls trying to find talent, rather than just sitting back and seeing where true cinematic innovation is coming from and nurturing it. And we, the audience, are their unlucky test bed.
    PS: You, Mauler, and It'saGundam need a live stream. The general cast of characters (Nerdrotic, Doomcock, etc) are mildly entertaining, but they tend to spend their time making fun of everything rather than offering any real solutions or analysis. I'd hire all 3 of you for my writer's room if I had a studio, since it's endearing to hear the shared pain in your voices when you talk of the destruction of our childhood inspirations.

    • @VinceLyle2161
      @VinceLyle2161 Před 11 měsíci +12

      "Narrative stolen valor." That's really good. Kudos.

    • @mxvega1097
      @mxvega1097 Před 11 měsíci +5

      Echo joins Critical Drinker every now and then but - as he's a modest, and self-effacing chap - frequently gets talked over by blowhards with the same set of a dozen talking points.

    • @lodrezzon
      @lodrezzon Před 11 měsíci +2

      @@mxvega1097 Seems similar to Mauler.

    • @DEWwords
      @DEWwords Před 11 měsíci +1

      Bullseye

    • @cameronjones8641
      @cameronjones8641 Před 9 měsíci +1

      Great comment!

  • @harbl99
    @harbl99 Před 11 měsíci +52

    "Bastion of masculinity Paul Feige [...] and imposing alpha male Alex Kurtzman."
    You have no idea how many time I had to rewatch that section to catch the names and descriptors of all those Hollywood ultra-giga-chads. Well done Echo.

  • @Hibernicus1968
    @Hibernicus1968 Před 11 měsíci +157

    Regarding the point toward the end of the video about the inability of modern screenwriters to write compelling male characters... I think the number one problem here is the limited life experience of those screenwriters. I would bet real money that the typical bio of a Hollywood screenwriter today consists of growing up in an upper middle class or wealthier home, going to a university and majoring in the liberal arts, possibly going to film school, then interning on the staff of some TV series or other, or somewhere else in the entertainment industry, and then working their way up to their present positions.
    Contrast that with the generation of writers around when the original Star Trek was on the air. Gene Roddenberry had been a bomber pilot during WWII, and had worked as a Los Angeles police officer for a while post-war while he was trying to break into the writing business. Star Trek TOS producer Gene L. Coon had been a marine during WWII and Korea (though he didn't see combat in WWII IIRC). Twilight Zone creator Rod Serling had been a paratrooper in the Pacific Theater during WWII. Donald Wilson, co-creator of Doctor Who had served in WWII with the Cameronians and the 43rd Wessex Division. _Mel Brooks_ was a combat veteran, having been a combat engineer in the ETO during WWII. Moving to a bit later, Oliver Stone was a Vietnam War veteran. Going back a bit further, J.R.R. Tolkien had served in combat in the trenches during WWI, before he went on to become a scholar of genuine note in his field.
    These men, and lots of others of their respective generations had a hell of a lot more, and a lot more varied life experience than most of the TV and movie script writers of today, who only know the world outside the entertainment industry from what they read, and what they watch on a screen. I think a lot of that difference shows in their writing.

    • @Thomasmemoryscentral
      @Thomasmemoryscentral Před 11 měsíci +18

      Even some of children's book authors can have some great stories of year creation.
      Wilbert Awdry wrote the first few stories of the railway series as a means of entertaining his 8 year old son Christopher one day sick with measles in bed. Brian Jacques created the first Redwall book as a story for blind children at a school with a world they could immerse themselves in

    • @19eightyforeisnow
      @19eightyforeisnow Před 11 měsíci +6

      ​@@Thomasmemoryscentralwasn't watership down written or made up for the authors daughters before it became a novel?

    • @MediumRareOpinions
      @MediumRareOpinions Před 11 měsíci +14

      I'll add another name. Roald dahl was an RAF pilot before going on to write children's books.

    • @tool2158
      @tool2158 Před 11 měsíci +19

      Sure, this is a valid point. Stil they also lack creativity and imagination independent of their life experience. I think the lack of imagination and creativity is the bigger issue. You can lead a dull life and potentially still come up with fantastic ideas, let’s not pretend that this isn’t possible. But our current world has eliminated our imagination.

    • @nickcasale2767
      @nickcasale2767 Před 11 měsíci +10

      Finally a solution to bad movies, all we need is another world war

  • @johnlhuet5358
    @johnlhuet5358 Před 11 měsíci +33

    It's kind of amazing that many people still care about movies and tv shows. Breaking from the Hollywood spell is a luxury only a few can afford..

  • @hatuletoh
    @hatuletoh Před 11 měsíci +23

    I grew up a long-haired, West Coast 90s grunge kid, and at the time, we were accused by some people of being too feminine (it was probably the hair, it's always the hair). But even the most vegan-minded, soy-soaked, neo-hippie pretty boy from the 90s seems like a paragon of raging masculinity compared to Hollywood's current idealized male. Personally, I won't be at all surprised if the ghosts of Cary Grant and Steve McQueen show up to haunt all our asses.

    • @whothoughthandleswereagoodidea
      @whothoughthandleswereagoodidea Před 11 měsíci

      That's because Hollywood's idealized male is a woman

    • @gsp6517
      @gsp6517 Před 11 měsíci +3

      I'm terribly sorry, but I don't take most of the complaints about the "pussyfication" of society seriously, especially considering how most of the men (yes, men) behind them aren't exacly models of masculinity themselves.

    • @iBloodxHunter
      @iBloodxHunter Před 10 měsíci

      ​@@gsp6517lol what an interesting way to tell everybody that you're an idiot.
      I would have chosen a different way, something other than going "this is fine" in a housefire but eh.

    • @irresponsiblyblue1411
      @irresponsiblyblue1411 Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@gsp6517 Good show. If you can't argue against the message, you can always attack the messenger.

    • @gsp6517
      @gsp6517 Před 10 měsíci

      @@irresponsiblyblue1411 Most people who argue said "message" do so by attacking others appearances, so what's the point?

  • @bottlethrower1544
    @bottlethrower1544 Před 11 měsíci +19

    With great wokeness comes great brokeness
    😢

  • @makhmal1776
    @makhmal1776 Před 11 měsíci +33

    Can't wait for the all female "Godmother". Sooo braaaaave!

    • @FUh_Que_-
      @FUh_Que_- Před 11 měsíci +9

      "Look how they massacred my They/Them" 😆😆

    • @makhmal1776
      @makhmal1776 Před 11 měsíci +4

      @@FUh_Que_- 😂😂

    • @VinceLyle2161
      @VinceLyle2161 Před 11 měsíci +4

      "Frieda, you're my non-binary sibling, but don't ever take sides against our matriarchal, polyamorous familial unit again. Ever."

    • @VinceLyle2161
      @VinceLyle2161 Před 11 měsíci +1

      I know it was you, Frieda. You broke my heart. You broke my heart.

  • @gnarwhal7562
    @gnarwhal7562 Před 10 měsíci +7

    Robert Zemeckis has earned a lot of respect from myself and others for vehemently refusing to allow a Back to the Future remake/reboot. It truly is the last untouched gem

  • @5dmkiii60
    @5dmkiii60 Před 11 měsíci +29

    The revised budget estimate for the Fleabag girl boss movie is $329 Million after reshoots. Not $295 Million. Ad spending was estimated to be $100 million, $50 million less than usual for a movie this big because Disney Marketing thought it was going to flop and didn't want to burn more money to promote what they already knew was going to be a flop.
    It cost $429 MILLION to get this movie in theaters. That means this movie will have to make close to $900 Million just to break even for Disney, after the distributors and theaters take their cut of 50% of gross ticket sales. Figure $20 million for Harrison Ford alone, plus whatever percentage of gross he managed to get on top of that and you get the drift. This movie is going to lose more money than any other movie in history. Well done Kathleen Kennedy!!! She is the "gift" that keeps losing billions for Disney. Add the $2 BILLION investment lost in HER Galactic F up, Starcruiser idea and killing Star Wars and the Indy Jones franchises' and it makes her the single most expensive, money losing employee in the world's history of employment. I hope she stays with Disney until they file for Chapter 11. She will almost single handedly be the reason they will need to file for it.
    The poisonous brilliance of KK is hard to overstate. She will have nearly killed Disney, will have been personally responsible for losing Disney BILLIONS of dollars, and when fired, will get a, "Just go away" payout of around $30 Million just to get rid of her, after she DESTROYED everything she set out to destroy. That, there, is genius. She will go down as the single most costly and destructive "employee" in human, employment history. That is an amazing accomplishment. She truly is the Sith Lord of Hollywood. Palpatine would be proud.

    • @davisdenver6756
      @davisdenver6756 Před 11 měsíci +5

      The reason Disney keeps Kathleen Kennedy around is because it's not about the money. It's about pushing the message.

    • @DonDiego1973
      @DonDiego1973 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Wishful thinking. Disney is so unbelievably big, it can afford to go on like this for many years to come. It'll have to tighten the purse strings, yes, but it will not go bankrupt, its market share and brand recognition (yes, the casuals don't care that what's being poured in their troughs is shit) are way too big. There IS a first, though: For the first time ever Disney put in their Securities and Exchange Commission report that they will continue to pursue their "social goals" at the expense of making profit. A multi-billion company is saying that they will happily LOSE money as long as they can keep furthering their ideology.

    • @5dmkiii60
      @5dmkiii60 Před 4 měsíci

      @@DonDiego1973 So true. Iger has NO intention of, "dialing down the heat on social issues." He's the architect of Disney's dive into leftist social engineering. Just look at the new Rey movie and who they hired to direct it? Iger OK'd that and Kennedy is doubling down on the, "Force is Feminist" and very anti male, BS. Both Iger and Kennedy KNOW this movie will fail utterly, but they don't care. They only care about..."THE MESSAGE."
      Only thing that's going to stop Disney's further descent into woke madness is if Peltz and Perlmutter get on the Board and oust Disney's chief wokie....IGER.

  • @torbenkristiansen2742
    @torbenkristiansen2742 Před 11 měsíci +21

    If the goal was to keep people away from the cinema, it sure worked. Was a huge fan of most of these franchises. Now there is no feeling. Breath is just a clock.

    • @Finwaell
      @Finwaell Před 11 měsíci +3

      just pick your movies carefully. Last year Northman and Drive my Car and Top Gun were awesome. you don't need to be at the cinema 3 times a week. read a (good) book rather.

  • @choreomaniac
    @choreomaniac Před 11 měsíci +9

    Dune. Bladerunner. Top Gun. Karate Kid. All successful reboots of a beloved franchise. What do they have in common? An obvious familiarity of the source material and reverence for it. And a respect of the fan base. A desire to “do right” by the source material. No one was really clamoring for them. We didn’t need them. But that’s why they had to be good. They couldn’t be just a cash grab. There is some nostalgia. Some fan service but it was primarily a deeper exploration, a reconnection a character study performed by people who liked the character.

  • @mamaya311
    @mamaya311 Před 11 měsíci +6

    There's going to be an entire generation of kids who grow up without any franchises of their own to latch onto because Hollywood insisted on wasting it's time destroying previous generations' franchises instead. Even as a business model, that's just colossally stupid.

  • @luchomscyfy
    @luchomscyfy Před 11 měsíci +10

    "How do you feel to live long enough to see your favorite franchises go down in flames?"
    - RedLetterMedia

  • @richardmcgowan1651
    @richardmcgowan1651 Před 11 měsíci +27

    I hope it all just keeps going. Disney is losing so much money that even Blackrock cant keep up with the money being wasted.

  • @satazs6195
    @satazs6195 Před 11 měsíci +7

    There is one last franchise left.
    Back to the Future. It's been safe so far because the creators (Bob Gale and Robert Zemeckis) refuse to sell the rights. But just you wait 10-15 years until they die of old age (they are 71) and whoever gets the rights after will sell them to Disney or Amazon or whoever. The same thing that happened with Tolkien and LOTR.

  • @old_newbie9498
    @old_newbie9498 Před 11 měsíci +53

    Well said. That clip of the Star Wars brainstorming session, and the list they came up with on the whiteboard, is the perfect single snapshot that...nobody in charge of these woke remakes/sequels have any clue about what made these shows the icons they were or why the fans were drawn to it.

    • @d3l3tes00n
      @d3l3tes00n Před 11 měsíci

      There's nothing "woke." lol No one likes these movies

    • @ltb1345
      @ltb1345 Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@d3l3tes00n They are woke, that's why no one likes them.

  • @FatNorthernBigot
    @FatNorthernBigot Před 11 měsíci +16

    If Star Wars was breakfast, Rey would be Bran Flakes. It's supposed to be good for us, but we all want the bacon sandwich that is Han Solo.

  • @josh_hugo
    @josh_hugo Před 11 měsíci +15

    This (like so much else that is happening today) was specifically predicted in "Atlas Shrugged." In it, popular artists, lacking any principles or convictions to inspire them, run out of ideas and begin producing inferior copies of the previous generation's work instead.

    • @VinceLyle2161
      @VinceLyle2161 Před 11 měsíci +3

      And pushing legislation limiting how many copies can be made, so the incompetent can't be eclipsed by the great.

  • @PJKP82
    @PJKP82 Před 11 měsíci +17

    Back to the Future, Mission: Impossible, Top Gun, Babylon 5, Firefly, John Wick, Metal Gear Solid... plenty left!

    • @jneilson7568
      @jneilson7568 Před 11 měsíci +2

      There's a contract protecting Back to the Future, for now anyway, but I'm sure it's coming even if it's an unnecessary prequel that'll feel far more childish than the early 1990s cartoon spinoff.

    • @mr.sinjin-smyth
      @mr.sinjin-smyth Před 11 měsíci

      Back to Future is safe for another 20 years, then watch Zemeckis' family give in to greed just like that of J.R.R. Tolkien's grandchildren.

  • @smasome
    @smasome Před 11 měsíci +6

    Excellent. My feelings exactly. Only more beautifully phrased. Thank you.

  • @Andrew_TS
    @Andrew_TS Před 11 měsíci +9

    "How does it feel to live long enough to see all your favorite franchises go down in flames?"

    • @BiggieTrismegistus
      @BiggieTrismegistus Před 11 měsíci +3

      I love that Rich Evans quote because it was about Star Trek, something that's near and dear to my heart too. Another wonderful Evansism is when he called what Kurtzman and pals did to Star Trek "secular blasphemy".

  • @xaviyuh4653
    @xaviyuh4653 Před 10 měsíci +7

    Dated this one girl who genuinely got excited for remakes with identity politics in it and she would deem those who did not enjoy them to be awful people. Turns out she was just as bad as the people she was demonizing

  • @urbanstarship
    @urbanstarship Před 11 měsíci +9

    They are desperate to get their hands on "Back to the Future"

  • @benwest3223
    @benwest3223 Před 11 měsíci +10

    Pessimist: This can't possibly get any worse.
    Optimist: Oh yes it can!

  • @jonmichaelgalindo
    @jonmichaelgalindo Před 11 měsíci +9

    I'm re-reading LoTR for the first time since HS, and these are some really good books! :-)

  • @markadler8968
    @markadler8968 Před 11 měsíci +69

    I think internet/social media is also the downfall of most modern movies with progressive content. There is simply no hiding whether a movie is garbage or not. People also tend to boycott most movies once they have been disappointed a few times, especially from large franchises. It has gotten to the point where a lot of people today get more satisfaction watching a movie fail than actually going to the theatre to view it.

    • @apexoldguy
      @apexoldguy Před 11 měsíci +1

      yeah youtubers and critics have only made things worse!

    • @markadler8968
      @markadler8968 Před 11 měsíci +8

      @@apexoldguy How so? Are people not allowed to have an opinion or are they just allowed one when it aligns with your narrative? Good movies will be successful despite any opinions/content from critics. The fact is that most movies/entertainment today fail because people are tired of having woke ideologies ingrained in everything. If they made movies people actually liked we would watch them but instead they force their agenda on people and we are tired of it.

    • @autisticlegionnaire3624
      @autisticlegionnaire3624 Před 11 měsíci +7

      @@apexoldguy Quite the opposite. CZcamsrs have given a voice to moviegoers concerns

    • @Anna-ht7xx
      @Anna-ht7xx Před 11 měsíci +5

      None of these things are the problem with the film industry. The problem with the film industry is the fact that it's an industry, any human artform wether movies, books, music, you name it, gets it's creativity sucked out when it becomes an industry since our capitalistic system doesn't value creativity, it values profits. And when things that are supposed to be art get produced for no other reason other than profit, it becomes soulless and you lose the magic of the artform.

    • @markadler8968
      @markadler8968 Před 11 měsíci +4

      @@Anna-ht7xx That might be a part of why these movies are failing miserably but what about movies like Top Gun 2 and the new Avatar? They both avoided woke content and did extremely well at the box office. You are completely dismissing peoples opinions/values and their impact on their decision to watch a movie or not. Also if movies are an industry and value profit over everything why are they making the conscious decision to include this content when they know people despise it? To deny that these ideologies are not having an impact on movie attendance is denying reality.

  • @sterling7
    @sterling7 Před 11 měsíci +12

    The overwhelming feeling I get from most of the franchise-ruinings described is that their creators believe an audience is something they deserve, not something they have to earn. Despite all their protestations, they *aren't* reflecting the modern world; they're reflecting one where behaving as they do and believing what they do, alone, gets their characters respect and success. They don't need to change, struggle, compromise; the world ought to change around them.

    • @Cougelly1999
      @Cougelly1999 Před 11 měsíci +1

      I see the sense in this, for some time it felt like something was wrong, wondering where this was going, wanting more, being dissatisfied, pointlessness, sadness. It is an unfortunate state of affairs which needs fixing.

    • @jskywalker58
      @jskywalker58 Před 11 měsíci +1

      trust me if someone made a movie that ACTUALLY reflect the world we now live now those same people would being throwing a tantrum and do everything they could to cancel it

  • @mattcolver1
    @mattcolver1 Před 11 měsíci +6

    "The Age Of Ersatz Entertainment". What a great line.

  • @Salad_ass
    @Salad_ass Před 11 měsíci +7

    "For I am become Death. Destroyer of Franchises." - Kathleen Kennedy

    • @VinceLyle2161
      @VinceLyle2161 Před 11 měsíci

      Ironic, since Oppenheimer is opening this week...

  • @hariman7727
    @hariman7727 Před 11 měsíci +11

    Independent productions still make good and great stories, movies, and such.
    Edit: Hollywood is ignoring at least 2 generations of great books they could adapt to movies.

  • @davehandelman2832
    @davehandelman2832 Před 5 měsíci

    Elemental ROCKS!!! One of the GREATEST love stories of the year!!!

  • @TheCatWatches
    @TheCatWatches Před 11 měsíci +5

    We have only one left. We must protect the Shrek Franchise at all costs!

    • @MediumRareOpinions
      @MediumRareOpinions Před 11 měsíci +2

      They announced live action How to Train your Dragon complete with race swap casting. They'll come for Shrek next.
      It's gone, the cause is lost.

    • @caligulapontifex5759
      @caligulapontifex5759 Před 11 měsíci +4

      Back to the Future as well

  • @crackdbrain34
    @crackdbrain34 Před 11 měsíci +14

    The sadness of the realisation that everything you have said here is true, is only outweighed by the way in which you convey your points. Thankyou again for your work.

  • @steveswafen2528
    @steveswafen2528 Před 11 měsíci +16

    Echo's vocal & music edits are always an added bonus 🤘

  • @projimbo
    @projimbo Před 11 měsíci +7

    You have succinctly told the truth sir. I salute you 😊

  • @ralphthewrecker302
    @ralphthewrecker302 Před 11 měsíci +40

    Thank you for making a video that encapsulates how I feel. It wasn’t until Indy just came out that I finally realized we have all been duped so much like a frog in a pot with the heat slowly being turned up… in that cultural appropriation had just one target left: the strong white male lead character. Once we replace all those as we have now, the world will be free of oppression. No, not really? The last decade we have seen the weakest writing possible from what used to be a pinnacle of the worlds cinema- all for the goal of cultural equity. Well, if anyone needs a further example of how that looks in cinema, as you said; I don’t know what’s left for KK to ruin.

  • @JoJoJoker
    @JoJoJoker Před 11 měsíci +12

    The goal is to get paid a lot of money to break things. The writers don’t care about corporate profits or box office revenue. They have been very successful in achieving this goal.

  • @chadakoin1
    @chadakoin1 Před 11 měsíci +3

    All we have left is Idiocracy and The Room.

    • @VinceLyle2161
      @VinceLyle2161 Před 11 měsíci

      Where the hell is the next Tommy Wisseau masterpiece?

  • @jimsteinmanfan80
    @jimsteinmanfan80 Před 11 měsíci +9

    The writer of Enola Holmes where Enola replaces her brother Sherlock have also written about Rowan Hood, the daughter of Robin Hood. If paid well she is likely to be willing to write about women near King Arthur, Hercules and all other male heroes, just like they recently did with Peter Pan and WENDY. There is probably plenty left to ruin.

  • @estel5335
    @estel5335 Před 11 měsíci +4

    “From the ashes a fire shall be woken,
    A light from the shadows shall spring;
    Renewed shall be blade that was broken,
    The crownless again shall be king.”
    ― J.R.R. Tolkien, The Fellowship of the Ring

  • @aurawolf2221
    @aurawolf2221 Před 11 měsíci +11

    I have ONE piece of entertainment that I still enjoy.... The Orville, That hasn't yet been ruined!

    • @fattiger6957
      @fattiger6957 Před 11 měsíci +3

      I dunno about that. From what I watched of it, Season 3 was awful. I despise that new young female character they added. She was the definition of "strong female character", almost like the studio mandated she be shoehorned in.

    • @aurawolf2221
      @aurawolf2221 Před 11 měsíci

      @@fattiger6957 you mean Ensign Burke? I dunno I personally thought they handled her character pretty well, particularly when Ed mentioned her having "a monopoly on grief" I always saw that as a dig at these types of people who let their feelings run their lives, & I appreciate the fact that despite being a lesbian character, it wasn't obvious or pushed on the viewer.

    • @BiggieTrismegistus
      @BiggieTrismegistus Před 11 měsíci +1

      Once you get past the first few rough episodes _Star Trek: Lower Decks_ gets good and stays that way. It's *easily* the best thing to come out of this NuTrek era.

    • @aurawolf2221
      @aurawolf2221 Před 11 měsíci

      @@BiggieTrismegistus I was actually gonna consider watching that but I just never got round to it.

  • @capo4ever334
    @capo4ever334 Před 11 měsíci +2

    You forgot the academy award nominated “call me by your name”

  • @neji667
    @neji667 Před 11 měsíci +12

    There's always more to ruin, don't worry!!

    • @El_Andru
      @El_Andru Před 11 měsíci +7

      Yeah, the thing is, hopefully more and more people will start to care less.
      So something with actual substance will be appreciated eventually.
      Its sad, but at the same time its good. Its just evolution of things.

    • @FUh_Que_-
      @FUh_Que_- Před 11 měsíci +2

      Flintstones soon and I can see them ruining Gilligan's Island, Greatest American Hero and more... like a junkie rummaging through old things to see what they can sell, they will ruin more

  • @PeterDivine
    @PeterDivine Před 11 měsíci +47

    It's funny. I was always contemptuous of the flop of the Black Cauldron movie being the only cinematic legacy of Lloyd Alexander's excellent Bildungsroman series in the Chronicles of Prydain. With some careful planning and pacing, there is absolutely grounds there to make it into another Harry Potter, just with less magic casting and more swordplay/character development.
    I now just quietly pray it stays dead so no one gets the idea to defile it.

    • @Thomasmemoryscentral
      @Thomasmemoryscentral Před 11 měsíci +6

      Sometimes I wonder if Brian Jacques is lucky that Redwall never picked up much success on TV because Hollywood cant ruin something that while decently successful for a cartoon adaption is kind of a niche thing.
      Netflix bought the book rights in 2019 and brought on Patrick McHale to write a script to complete but never proceeded farther than that.
      Hopefully they wont mess it up

    • @jesweat0327
      @jesweat0327 Před 11 měsíci +4

      I don't even want to consider what they would do to Taran and Eilonwy.

    • @alpyki2588
      @alpyki2588 Před 11 měsíci +1

      Thats how I am with nearly anything, even if its something I like in bad taste.
      When the one thing you are excited to return is Subspecies, then something is fundamentally wrong with the entertainment landscape.

  • @AngryMinkey
    @AngryMinkey Před 11 měsíci +10

    Back to the Future is the last one standing.. They need to hide that inside the arc of the covenant to protect it

    • @benfisher9968
      @benfisher9968 Před 11 měsíci +5

      It’s safe whilst Robert Zemeckis is alive

    • @tdog5035
      @tdog5035 Před 11 měsíci +2

      I hope zemeckis puts the rights into some kind of unbreakable 100 year trust so his family can't get greedy and sell it to the highest bidder like the Tolkien family did.

    • @mr.sinjin-smyth
      @mr.sinjin-smyth Před 11 měsíci

      It's good for another 20 years before Zemeckis' family likely gives in to greed very much like that of J.R.R. Tolkien's grandchildren.

  • @motaman8074
    @motaman8074 Před 11 měsíci +2

    Spot on. Exceptional essay.

  • @gregmize01
    @gregmize01 Před 11 měsíci +2

    "Wow, mr sarcasm."
    😂😂😂😂

  • @Se7nom
    @Se7nom Před 11 měsíci +6

    There's still "Back to the Future", (un?)fortunately shielded with Robert Zemeckis's life. When he dies, it's hunting season. 😭

  • @lemond2007
    @lemond2007 Před 11 měsíci +2

    Disney: There is PLENTY left to ruin. We're just getting started.

  • @floydfanboy2948
    @floydfanboy2948 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Hollywood is dead. No tears are shed. Let it rot.

  • @tylergoodman3560
    @tylergoodman3560 Před 11 měsíci +4

    Thank you for saying this. I don't know when, but one day, the high-ups at Hollywood will find out that identity politics has no business in movies. 😢🎉

  • @andrewparker1847
    @andrewparker1847 Před 11 měsíci +3

    Doctor who was the one that hurt the most for me, over 50 years of hard work just flushed down the toilet. It would've been better if the show had never come back.

  • @MBP1918
    @MBP1918 Před 11 měsíci +8

    It could very well be the end of the traditional big budget cinema films tbh

  • @loganford3921
    @loganford3921 Před 11 měsíci +4

    The only thing that they haven't ruin is Karate Kid. I think they did great with the Cobrai Kai comeback unlike the recent Star Wars movies.

  • @brooks7894
    @brooks7894 Před 11 měsíci +40

    You are a god to me. Obsessed with your brilliant, honest and desperately needed content. Thank you, Echo!

  • @TheUnitedDrills
    @TheUnitedDrills Před 11 měsíci +7

    Nothing Left to Ruin? 🤔
    But Wait, There’s More! 😂

  • @thomasreynolds3819
    @thomasreynolds3819 Před 11 měsíci +18

    It's amazing, I was just thinking the same thing. At this point, I don't really care what does well and what flops even. I'll probably check in to see if The Marvels flops at the box office for a good laugh, but after that I'll be completely checked out. I'll probably stop watching review CZcams channels as well. The only thing I really care about are old movies and when it comes to that, I think I've seen all the masterpieces already. Maybe I'll get back into reading. I've been meaning to do that for a while.

    • @Mr.Goodkat
      @Mr.Goodkat Před 11 měsíci +2

      There's no way in hell you've seen all the masterpieces, there is an endless back catalogue of great films, nobody has seen all the great ones, *nobody*.

    • @thomasreynolds3819
      @thomasreynolds3819 Před 11 měsíci

      @@Mr.Goodkat When it comes to the movies that you "Must watch before you die" I've seen most of them. You're right that there's probably a ton of underrated or undiscovered movies that are brilliant which I haven't seen, but I try not to lose sleep over that because I could never possibly see every movie in my lifetime.

    • @Mr.Goodkat
      @Mr.Goodkat Před 11 měsíci

      @@thomasreynolds3819 It's feasible to see every great one though, I just think what prevents people is effort, the time it takes to find them and not knowing where to look, nobody ever said anything about seeing every film in your lifetime, sure tons of them aren't even worth seeing.

  • @Dave.666.
    @Dave.666. Před 11 měsíci +2

    "No.... There is another."

  • @paulomendonca330
    @paulomendonca330 Před 11 měsíci +4

    They won't stop.... they want to erase all those "toxic masculinity success" that we all used to admire, with "toxic feminisms failures" forcing us all to watch our beloved characters, worlds and stories, die melancholy

  • @sabatheus
    @sabatheus Před 11 měsíci +5

    This video is a masterclass evaluation of the current state of Hollywood. It really has become a cartoon of itself-with the Velma example being most apt. What’s happening with Lucasfilm and Pixar at Disney should be a clarion call for the rest of the industry. We, as viewers, just want good stories, well told. We don’t want to be preached to or told what terrible people we are.

  • @JR-ej9up
    @JR-ej9up Před 11 měsíci +7

    This is why we need actors. Stars we go see. Not film brands from corporate. Controlled. But the actors are woke as hell too so you're screwed with that as well.

  • @chpsilva
    @chpsilva Před 11 měsíci

    They can't touch Back to the Future. Thanks, Mr. Zemeckis.

  • @douglassmolens1455
    @douglassmolens1455 Před 11 měsíci +13

    I laughed out loud several times. Good writing.

  • @squarepickle
    @squarepickle Před 11 měsíci +2

    That's when Hollywood realized... They hadn't made Bruce Wayne and Clark Kent gay black women. 😂

  • @dmomintz
    @dmomintz Před 11 měsíci +6

    2016 to 2023 will be known as the affirmative action era of film.

  • @indianastones6032
    @indianastones6032 Před 11 měsíci

    Truer words have not be spoken!!

  • @northshore1000
    @northshore1000 Před 10 měsíci

    I just happily subscribed to your channel. Most happily!! You’re speaking for us! Thank you!!!

  • @bobhill9845
    @bobhill9845 Před 11 měsíci +5

    This is genuinely funny, thank God there is plenty of good stuff still coming out from other countries

  • @thenapalmbrothershq5585
    @thenapalmbrothershq5585 Před 11 měsíci +4

    Art shouldn't primarily be educational or political.

  • @AbrasiousProductions
    @AbrasiousProductions Před 6 měsíci +1

    this is why I almost always only watch classic films.

  • @MatsubaAgeha
    @MatsubaAgeha Před 10 měsíci

    6:38~ "There's nothing left to DECONSTRUCT, to STRIP-MINE..." (Exactly; brilliant summary!)

  • @DeistPaladin
    @DeistPaladin Před 11 měsíci +4

    Here's a wild idea. Bare with me because I don't know if it's been done before. How about have the legacy, beloved, well-established hero who's now old and due to be replaced by a younger, new hero, how about we have them in the wise mentor role. He recognizes the talent in the younger hero and teaches her what he's learned over the years. He trains her in whatever it is the hero in this IP does (be a Jedi or whatever). She struggles at first, we do a montage with some music in the background, both get frustrated but she picks herself up and shows determination. By the end of the arc, the audience we accept the replacement because she's earned her way while properly respecting the legacy hero that paved the way.

  • @Grim2
    @Grim2 Před 11 měsíci +6

    There's Back to the Future. Though thankfully THAT is currently under protection of its creators who are against any reboot attempts.

    • @teastrainer3604
      @teastrainer3604 Před 11 měsíci +4

      They'd send woke modern people to the past to enlighten those folks.

    • @Anthonydavis65
      @Anthonydavis65 Před 11 měsíci +2

      Lets hope that stays but i wouldnt put it past them to try

  • @SteveCossaboom
    @SteveCossaboom Před 5 měsíci

    SO excellent!!!!

  • @kurtisrobertson2151
    @kurtisrobertson2151 Před 11 měsíci +6

    Good wiil come from this. Good storys, good characters, good writers, after destruction on such a catastrophic scale there can only be time to rebuild and build better.

  • @awandererfromys1680
    @awandererfromys1680 Před 11 měsíci +3

    _Back To The Future._ And let's just hope it stays that way.

  • @Procket12
    @Procket12 Před 11 měsíci

    They also proved that all those bias against them were completely right and should be reimplemented.

  • @harryv6752
    @harryv6752 Před 10 měsíci +1

    You totally had me at Never Ending Story. Totally rad! 🤟

  • @Icspiders247
    @Icspiders247 Před 11 měsíci +4

    Loved cross of iron. James Coburn was a great actor. Loved the film so much I even picked up the original book. It was also great.

  • @SaturmornCarvilli
    @SaturmornCarvilli Před 11 měsíci +3

    Something I've always wondered about is if there is any military veteran Hollywood writers on staff at these places.
    I mean, the U.S. has been at war for a quarter-century, and the military is a culture unto itself. And these places want diversity, right? So, it makes sense that action-oriented IPs looking for diversity would actively seek out veterans. If not directly, those to have firsthand experience with who have been in war.
    And while everyone is different, I have a hard time believing a military veteran or adjacent who also has the moxie to be a writer wouldn't have an intimate understanding of values that seem devoid in these stories.

  • @jbsentinel
    @jbsentinel Před 11 měsíci

    Serendipitous scroller 😂 bloody love that

  • @hagerty1952
    @hagerty1952 Před 10 měsíci

    Marvelous, succinct summary! Thank you!

  • @openminded_skeptic
    @openminded_skeptic Před 11 měsíci +3

    At least Ghostbusters was saved so its not a total loss.

  • @CinnamonGrrlErin1
    @CinnamonGrrlErin1 Před 11 měsíci +5

    Don't speak too soon, there's still Alien: Romulus and a new Planet of the Apes movie ahead

  • @jayritz5876
    @jayritz5876 Před 5 měsíci

    They ruined everything... and for that I am grateful.

  • @michaelfreedom.1966
    @michaelfreedom.1966 Před 11 měsíci

    That will be the day when I give Kennedy & her clowns any money. 💰

  • @NeonSamurai72
    @NeonSamurai72 Před 11 měsíci +5

    The ones they've ruined are the 'big guns' the AAA titles.
    Someone thought that diminising established male heroes to promote new female ones was asure fire way to bring in the cash, that they destroyed pretty much every big name IP around, only to see that it doesn't work.