Justa mention, Glidden never had an aftermarket place to get heads from, with huge ports and valves that he could tweak a little. Glidden had a stove in his shop, that every Pic I've seen of it, had a fire going underneath it and a set of heads warming up so he could bore and port the intake track himself. Every nut and bolt was gone over by Bob to squeeze performance out of it. He talked to me one afternoon for 15 min between rounds, late 80's US Nationals, like he'd known me all his life. Very personable guy.
@REVan Evan, Thats a 352 , 3.5" crank in the 427 to make that. Yes in part because of weight to cube rules. They felt the 427 was too sluggish coming out of the corners on small tracks so they shortened the stroke to the previously used 352 nascar cranks. Body is original specs, and the\at lil spoiler was that small because Nascar would not allow them to run any bigger. Kinda fair when you look at the Dodge wing huh?
The 396 ford was a 427 FE side oiler with a 361 FT forged steel semi truck crankshaft, with the industrial crank snout and flywheel flange machined down to work in the FE 427 block. It was a tunnel port with two four barrel carbs. The 68,69 Torino stock cars from Holman&Moody were half chassis car's. 1965 to 68 fullsize Galaxie front frame snout & suspension grafted to the unibody chassis.
David Pearson was undoubtedly the greatest NASCAR driver ever, especially when one considers his start to win ratio. Far better than Richard Petty. Always thought it was cool how they installed a cigarette lighter in his dashboard. He was the man!
I never get tired of sending Evan "High Fives" for his outsatanding passionate driven efforts to bring we the viewers really top notch information from the most knowledgeable people in the game. Thanks Evan...for bringing the Blue Oval Nation to the forefront.
Love the old fastback Torinos. Men were men back then with no PS, PB, or helmet cooling tubes. To wind-out one of these cars to red line on the back stretch of Taledega I imagine took some nerves of steel slamming it in to the corner.
SUPER EVAN, 396 HAD ME WONDERING BECAUSE I WAS WATCHING DAVIR PEARSON IN THE 60S FROM MY BEST FRIEND, DAVIE PEARSONS HOUSE, BUT WE WERE VERY YOUNG THEN. HIS DAD LIKED NASCAR. GAPP AND ROUSH SET THE D PORT STAGE FOR GLIDDEN. 351C DOMINATION!
That car is super cool, as all of them back in that era. There is still a lot of ingenuity, but much different. I just turned 59, but I love the old ways.
Love the Nascar and Prostock history cars. So many memories touched as you go through it. So much detail was loaded on to the one main guy back then. Have the utmost respect for what they did to accomplish their goal.. Thanks for covering it.
David Pearson was my hero from as far back in my childhood as I can remember, then I turned to Bill Elliott when he started in the Cup series. He ran circles around everyone else with half the equipment, and half the races. He only ran one full NASCAR season if I remember correctly, but he has 105 wins, second only to the King. Now Evan, I know we're both die hard Ford fans, but how about that Jack Smith 1957 Chevy 150 Fuel Injection "BLACK WIDOW" parked beside David's Torino! I'm positive it wouldn't hurt anyone's feelings a bit to do a short history and close up on that very rare, very historic car.
My first Real Ford bite was as a kid seeing a gold 69 Mach 1 in a car lot. Something about it burned into my memory. To this day it's when I became a Ford guy for life.
I love this stuff Evan . Heck I'm getting a 351 Cleveland built (and it's been a struggle) 60 over and that's a long story too , but it's going into a 72 Mach1 and it's going to 🎸 🤘
I love so much that Torino and to get to imagine what that destroked 427 would sound like, I wish that they could fire it up! It’s a Pearson car and the story is Bob Glidden. Fire that 396 up!
@@Bbbbad724 Ford was not allowed to run dual quads but Hemi in some of those years was. I`m not sure on the heads but some say Med riser which would make a lot of sense on a short track.
@@reverend099 as far as I can tell the tunnnel- ports were allowed but only a single 1050 Dominator carb and the weight break . He evidently used the 427 TP 2x4 on the big tracks in 68 because the Boss9 hadn’t been homalgated and on the mid- size and short tracks the 396 TP with the single Dominator . Pearson won the championship in 68. In 69 the Boss9 was homolgated mid year. I think the TP 427 8V on the big tracks and the 396 TP 1050 for the first half, then the Boss9 mid season on long tracks and I’m running out of information on the last half…. Can you help?
Most of those cars from that era had either a Banjo Matthews or Cotton Owens front suspension under them, so those would be based on the mid 50s Ford Fairlane front suspension setup. Good eye!
Thank you for the video. Bob glutton definitely was a genius. I really do think you're Hammond. Johnson could have got together and work together. They would have been unstoppable to anybody for a very, very long time. They were both geniuses and I got to make both of them 2 or 3 times And I was always amazed by half friendly and polite. Bob glutton was when you went to talk to her. He always had a little time to say hi and talk a little bit very nice man. His wife, the same very nice woman. Very polite. They're really appreciative of you, come and buy. Bob glutton is missed a true innovator a true racer a true champion Is bob glitton
I love and favor the all mighty FORD and just love all the vintage cars Glidden is my Hero he showed the competition that FORD would out run the best of them and I dont care what they say Fords struck fear in the compitition of all brands .
i remember bob glidden wrecked his car climbed out and threw his firesuit jacket over the intake manifold so no one could see what he was doing he was a genious
Evan, I have had a 69 Torino GT for 31 years, has sat now for 8 years, now that I am retired it's time to get off my ass and do the body/paint work and put my 514 and C6 into it to have my grandpa car.
Most likely a 3.5" stroke crank (352, 360 OE stroke) in a 4.24" or 4.25" bore (OE 427 +0.010" or 0.020"). Lykins Motorsports is doing a destroked 427 build that he rates at 397". I am guessing that this what HM ran in these cars at the time.
I'm pretty sure that living legend and former H/M fabricator Kenny Thompson of Denver, N.C. restored the #17 car around 25 years ago. Yes, there was a weight break in 1968 for a slightly smaller motor... a popular size for the Chrysler Hemi was 404 c.i. BTW...
There's a CZcams vid about this car & Holman Moody's "innovative" use of the destroked 427 (396 ci) which they unveiled for the 1968 Rebel 400 at Darlington. The Hemi had been limited to 404 ci on superspeedways & no longer could use 2X4 barrel carbs. Pearson's team calculated (correctly) that the smaller 396 engine would handle better,get better mpg & better tire wear, as Pearson won the pole & the race in that car.
Didn’t they put an air dam under the rocker panels set back from the edge of the body? It was set back so it would pass the minimum height requirement.
No sir, the Talladega had the rockers rolled one inch higher so they could drop the car an inch and still meet rules. they were measured from the rocker panel to the ground.
Because they never used the 390 in any racing. It was a 427 destroked to wrap major rpm quick to get them out of the corner faster along with the weight break.
LOL these goobers missed the tubular front chassis..........and the Chryslers ran torsion bars instead of coil springs so the shocks were laid out differently.
There's always a "sweet spot/time" in all racing classes where there's enough stock parts being used/modified to make the cars recognizable to their production counterparts. And the people that wrangled the power & speed out of them were innovators. Then the rules/cars become "homogenized" and boring, built by committee.
David Pearson won the Nascar championship....in 68 and 69...in the H/M Torino.
Justa mention, Glidden never had an aftermarket place to get heads from, with huge ports and valves that he could tweak a little. Glidden had a stove in his shop, that every Pic I've seen of it, had a fire going underneath it and a set of heads warming up so he could bore and port the intake track himself. Every nut and bolt was gone over by Bob to squeeze performance out of it. He talked to me one afternoon for 15 min between rounds, late 80's US Nationals, like he'd known me all his life. Very personable guy.
@REVan Evan, Thats a 352 , 3.5" crank in the 427 to make that. Yes in part because of weight to cube rules. They felt the 427 was too sluggish coming out of the corners on small tracks so they shortened the stroke to the previously used 352 nascar cranks. Body is original specs, and the\at lil spoiler was that small because Nascar would not allow them to run any bigger. Kinda fair when you look at the Dodge wing huh?
The 396 ford was a 427 FE side oiler with a 361 FT forged steel semi truck crankshaft, with the industrial crank snout and flywheel flange machined down to work in the FE 427 block.
It was a tunnel port with two four barrel carbs.
The 68,69 Torino stock cars from Holman&Moody were half chassis car's.
1965 to 68 fullsize Galaxie front frame snout & suspension grafted to the unibody chassis.
David Pearson was undoubtedly the greatest NASCAR driver ever, especially when one considers his start to win ratio. Far better than Richard Petty. Always thought it was cool how they installed a cigarette lighter in his dashboard. He was the man!
I never get tired of sending Evan "High Fives" for his outsatanding passionate driven efforts to bring we the viewers really top notch information from the most knowledgeable people in the game. Thanks Evan...for bringing the Blue Oval Nation to the forefront.
Love the old fastback Torinos. Men were men back then with no PS, PB, or helmet cooling tubes. To wind-out one of these cars to red line on the back stretch of Taledega I imagine took some nerves of steel slamming it in to the corner.
The 68-69 Torino’s have amazing racing history. Great video.
SUPER EVAN, 396 HAD ME WONDERING BECAUSE I WAS WATCHING DAVIR PEARSON IN THE 60S FROM MY BEST FRIEND, DAVIE PEARSONS HOUSE, BUT WE WERE VERY YOUNG THEN. HIS DAD LIKED NASCAR. GAPP AND ROUSH SET THE D PORT STAGE FOR GLIDDEN. 351C DOMINATION!
I met Bob Glidden in 1991 in Kent Washington, super nice guy.
I watched Bob and family race at Milan in Michigan , the family worked their tails off in the pits !
That car is super cool, as all of them back in that era. There is still a lot of ingenuity, but much different. I just turned 59, but I love the old ways.
Love the Nascar and Prostock history cars. So many memories touched as you go through it. So much detail was loaded on to the one main guy back then. Have the utmost respect for what they did to accomplish their goal.. Thanks for covering it.
Another great video.
In the movie 'Winning' with Paul Newman and Robert Wagner this Torino is in some of the racing scenes. Awesome indeed.
David Pearson was my hero from as far back in my childhood as I can remember, then I turned to Bill Elliott when he started in the Cup series. He ran circles around everyone else with half the equipment, and half the races. He only ran one full NASCAR season if I remember correctly, but he has 105 wins, second only to the King. Now Evan, I know we're both die hard Ford fans, but how about that Jack Smith 1957 Chevy 150 Fuel Injection "BLACK WIDOW" parked beside David's Torino! I'm positive it wouldn't hurt anyone's feelings a bit to do a short history and close up on that very rare, very historic car.
👍I seen that to
in 1969 a fellow came to our house to pick up one of my older sisters ,, he was in a 69 428 cobra torino .. i was 13 and the ford bug had bitten me ..
My first Real Ford bite was as a kid seeing a gold 69 Mach 1 in a car lot. Something about it burned into my memory. To this day it's when I became a Ford guy for life.
@@KR-qs3rt i had a 69 R code in 74 .. also had a 69 A12 super bee for a minute ..
I love this stuff Evan . Heck I'm getting a 351 Cleveland built (and it's been a struggle) 60 over and that's a long story too , but it's going into a 72 Mach1 and it's going to 🎸 🤘
Evan, a 396 for that time would be a de-stroked 427. They used a 427 block with a 360 crank. Nice vid!
Great video love the Ford history truely amazing stuff to see what they done and how they done it
Love the vintage ol stock cars, great job guys keep it up.
Awesome history
Love these videos! Always fun hearing about all the classic FORD'S
Awesome history lesson Evan, thank you!
ALL MY FAVORITE DRIVERS AND CARS IN 1 BUNDEL
I love so much that Torino and to get to imagine what that destroked 427 would sound like, I wish that they could fire it up! It’s a Pearson car and the story is Bob Glidden. Fire that 396 up!
I’ll be returning, don’t worry.
I’m going to assume, he was talking about a stroked 351 to 394 ci, instead of the 302, but I’ve been wrong before. Good coverage Evan.
@@BlownSkillet I think I may remember reading about this years ago . According to the article is WAS an old style Boss 302 block used. Incredible.
I'm quite sure the Boss 302 block was significantly stronger than a garden variety 302W.. But still a short deck height..
@@revanevan I ll be looking forward to it! Thanks. All of that FE history there! I think the 396 FE even had Tunnel Port heads and the 2x4 intake!
Fred Lorenza used a 396 engine at Rockingham, wore the field out and won the race, I was there.
Yeah, seeing 396CI on the hood is really weird. I bet it was a snappy revver though !!
396 was the NASCAR limit for a couple of years before 427s took over
Bob Glidden was the man in drag racing and David Pearson was the man in Nascar
Enjoyed!!!! 👍👍
Awesome
My guess is .020" over bored 427 block with a 352 crank=395.35 CID.
A .020over 427 with a 352 steel crank for the win! I am pretty sure that they ran Tunnel Port Heads and a 2x4 intake.
Bingo, you get the win.
@@Bbbbad724 Ford was not allowed to run dual quads but Hemi in some of those years was.
I`m not sure on the heads but some say Med riser which would make a lot of sense on a short track.
@@reverend099 as far as I can tell the tunnnel- ports were allowed but only a single 1050 Dominator carb and the weight break . He evidently used the 427 TP 2x4 on the big tracks in 68 because the Boss9 hadn’t been homalgated and on the mid- size and short tracks the 396 TP with the single Dominator . Pearson won the championship in 68. In 69 the Boss9 was homolgated mid year. I think the TP 427 8V on the big tracks and the 396 TP 1050 for the first half, then the Boss9 mid season on long tracks and I’m running out of information on the last half…. Can you help?
@@Bbbbad724 Now I am about 99% positive the fords were not allowed the dual quads and that is why they were not an option on any 68 or 69 car.
That Torino is on a Galaxie frame , notice the front spring are on the lower arms .
Most of those cars from that era had either a Banjo Matthews or Cotton Owens front suspension under them, so those would be based on the mid 50s Ford Fairlane front suspension setup. Good eye!
Thank you for the video. Bob glutton definitely was a genius. I really do think you're Hammond. Johnson could have got together and work together. They would have been unstoppable to anybody for a very, very long time. They were both geniuses and I got to make both of them 2 or 3 times And I was always amazed by half friendly and polite. Bob glutton was when you went to talk to her. He always had a little time to say hi and talk a little bit very nice man.
His wife, the same very nice woman. Very polite. They're really appreciative of you, come and buy. Bob glutton is missed a true innovator a true racer a true champion Is bob glitton
I love and favor the all mighty FORD and just love all the vintage cars Glidden is my Hero he showed the competition that FORD would out run the best of them and I dont care what they say Fords struck fear in the compitition of all brands .
i remember bob glidden wrecked his car climbed out and threw his firesuit jacket over the intake manifold so no one could see what he was doing he was a genious
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
NEVER STOP LEARNING.
Bob Glidden didnt talk shit he proved it.
Evan, I have had a 69 Torino GT for 31 years, has sat now for 8 years, now that I am retired it's time to get off my ass and do the body/paint work and put my 514 and C6 into it to have my grandpa car.
I believe the 396 was a 427 with the crank from a 360 truck engine, a "stock" way of de-stroking.
Love it. Keep it coming
Most likely a 3.5" stroke crank (352, 360 OE stroke) in a 4.24" or 4.25" bore (OE 427 +0.010" or 0.020"). Lykins Motorsports is doing a destroked 427 build that he rates at 397". I am guessing that this what HM ran in these cars at the time.
Best dyno/wind tunnel on the planet IS the race track!
I'm pretty sure that living legend and former H/M fabricator Kenny Thompson of Denver, N.C. restored the #17 car around 25 years ago. Yes, there was a weight break in 1968 for a slightly smaller motor... a popular size for the Chrysler Hemi was 404 c.i. BTW...
A 352 Crank in a 427 makes 396 CI it was a Real Comen Set up were people wanted RPM!
Have you ever heard of the "TALLADEGA Tribute" BOSS 429 Torino car?
There's a CZcams vid about this car & Holman Moody's "innovative" use of the destroked 427 (396 ci) which they unveiled for the 1968 Rebel 400 at Darlington. The Hemi had been limited to 404 ci on superspeedways & no longer could use 2X4 barrel carbs. Pearson's team calculated (correctly) that the smaller 396 engine would handle better,get better mpg & better tire wear, as Pearson won the pole & the race in that car.
Didn’t they put an air dam under the rocker panels set back from the edge of the body? It was set back so it would pass the minimum height requirement.
No sir, the Talladega had the rockers rolled one inch higher so they could drop the car an inch and still meet rules. they were measured from the rocker panel to the ground.
@@reverend099 Yes, that’s it.
What was Bob`s fastest Time in the 1/4 if you are not sure ask bob`s son he was there at Darlington dragway test and tune day😎
I watched him break the 200mph barrier in Brainard. With the probe..
Beating Johnson in the final..
That's a small block
Why wouldn't it be a 390 @ .030 over? The math works out at 395.777
Because they never used the 390 in any racing. It was a 427 destroked to wrap major rpm quick to get them out of the corner faster along with the weight break.
LOL these goobers missed the tubular front chassis..........and the Chryslers ran torsion bars instead of coil springs so the shocks were laid out differently.
Holman Moody destroked the 427 and used a steel crank out of a 361 truck engine(FT). It made as much HP as the 427. Pearson beat Petty's 404 Hemi!
There's always a "sweet spot/time" in all racing classes where there's enough stock parts being used/modified to make the cars recognizable to their production counterparts. And the people that wrangled the power & speed out of them were innovators. Then the rules/cars become "homogenized" and boring, built by committee.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1968_Rebel_400
Awesome