Even better if it's those reflective, crinkly mylar balloons. The mylar reflects the infrared spectrum, masking your IR signature. Boom. Full spectrum stealth
I like to add the NVGs to the back of the helmet and put the counterweight in the front so there’s no chance of my vision being obscured if the Wilcox mount fails and the monocular drops and blocks my vision
Great video. I would like to see a video on Aarons new fancy white phosphor tubes and the white vs green debate and 3rd gen night vision vs 3+gen and 2nd and 1rds gen nightvision tubes.
"Lot's of derp out there on helmets..." YES, there is!! Probably one of the better vids I've come across on this topic. TY. Just a note...you said you'd probably never have need for coms again. Not something I'd take for granted. I'd encourage you to NOT CUT your plugs n mic. But, like you said, gotta find what works for you. Thanks again!!
I was blessed to have a friend find me a gently used blemless Elbit Gen 3 thin filmed green phos PVS-14 for $1950 shipped. Low Light Innovations makes a terrific "white" filter that essentially mimics white phos in appearance with limited light transmission loss for only $25. To save money on the mount, he suggested an "Evolution Gear L4G24 NVG Mount Perfect Replica" for only $85 shipped instead of the $465 for the real one, and the quality is phenomenal. I also picked up a used Wilcox AN/PVS-14 Arm for $150 shipped down from the original $229 price. Botach has a Longfri Level IIIA ballistic helmet for only $199 that is around 3 pounds, good quality for the price and there are lots of ballistic test videos on them. I also went with the FCS AMP Headset that is a fully functioning Replica of the Ops Core AMP for only $175 shipped down from $999 for the real one. I plan on running a Disco 32 PTT with them to get my Comms squared away. Although all of this stuff is still expensive, there are ways of making NVGs and Comms realistically affordable instead of an unobtainable pipe dream. I highly encourage yourself and others to do the same. I was able to have just as functional of a setup for a little more than $2,500 that would have been $7,500+ if I had gone "Gucci" on everything.........
This is really a great video. Very straightforward and breaking it down simple for people that are thinking about getting into night vision. I would like to hear more about the equipment, different options and how to set everything up and getting it to work together. Some information right down to the buttons and switches would be great.
I wear ANVIS 9s for work on my flight helmet and they are heavy and very front heavy, even with the factory lead weights on the back battery pack. I don't like that about them one bit. Nice set up brother.
Great video. Thanku. Just came across it so idk if this will ever get a response BUT, wondering about a low power IR light on the helmet for being able to search or inventory an area visually without ha omg to move or point my IR weapon light in the direction I’m looking? Haven’t seen many or any folks setup like that but seems to me (newb acknowledged) to maybe be a good idea? Anyway, thanks again
Hey dude, nice nod setup. Question: are your tubes matched? Do you think it's a big deal? I'm getting ready to run a dual pvs-14 set up..but lots of haters be all like, "dude, your gonna get headaches" ...im like yeah, ok. I've heard this before. I guess I'll find out the longer I wear them.
I need some advice. I am looking to get some sort of NV monocular to mount on a helmet. I already have a clip on thermal rifle scope that I mount in front of my day scope to hunt hogs at night. its really hard to use the thermal for movement purposes at night, especially since I have to detach it from the rifle. Is there some sort of setup that would allow me to view NV through my left eye that would leave enough room next to my right eye to easily throw the rifle up and shoot through the thermal with my right eye?
Like your setup...Only thing I would switch out, would be to run that battery pack that allows for you to run your NODs straight off the pack..It also gives you a reserve battery source that lets you flip a switch and your fully juiced again
2x PVS14s- Roughly 6K. About 3k a pop from a reputable seller. Bridge mount for PVS 14s- Any where from 300-1500 Helmet- About 300 Earpro/comms with rail mounts -400 TNVC Mohawk- Roughly 60-80 depending on generation and model. I would guess the light on the side is in the 200-300 range. Expect just south of 10k for something like this. Could probably do it for 8-9k if you shop around and wait for sales and stuff to go on clearance. DO NOT GET ANY OF THIS STUFF OFF OF EBAY OR AMAZON. There is a good chance that it will be a cheap knock off.
Sounds about right, you could do a functional setup for cheaper though 1pvs-14 gen 3 -2-2500 Bump helmet used -200 Howard Leight earpro with unity mark -100 Mohawk 60 Cheap streamlight /used surefire helmet light -50 Rhino 2 mount -60 I set myself up with something similar for under 3k
@@Rolley189 Is that common to buy 2 pvs14, and put them together,I thought was ment to be one eye and if you wanted 2 you would buy a setup that's made that way.
@@meh9682 I would say somewhat common. Most people buy a 14 first due to their versatility and cost. Usually 2500-3000. They then save up for another and bridge them like you see in the video. (I would caution against this as if you get two tubes that aren't similarly specd your eyes will be receiving resolutions of information and you could get some sever eye strain leading to a bad headache after and hour or two)This allows you split the units and hand one off to someone else. It is VERY heavy though and a mod3 bravo would achieve the same result. I don't believe that unit was available at the time this video was made.
In the Army my Kevlar was so unbalanced with my nods. Dunno why I never inquired about using a counterweight. But no one else in my company used a counterweight that I was aware of
Grego1776 lol same here dude. When i was in the Marines it was a bitch to use NODs. ESPECIALLY in the prone. It looked like i was doing some kind of yoga pose just to see where my laser was tracking lol. Shit back then i didn't know any of this existed. No one had this shit in my unit and if i would have used it I'd probably have been told to take it off. Our 1st Sgt was all SOPs or nothing
Logan Raney LOL sounds like my unit. Had I stepped into the field with some innovative, better method of balancing heavy ass night vision on my head, I'm sure someone would have an issue with it haha
Grego1776 Yeah for real man. Fuck you if you try to improve anything, and with your OWN money. I bought a plate carrier for a training event overseas in norway we were going on and my squad leader was like nope. But i still got to use it cuz a guy in another fireteam "forgot" his flak and my squad leader made him use the issue one i had brought just in case. I caught shit the whole time we were there for using a non issue piece of gear. It wasn't a cheapo pos airsoft plate carrier either it was a LBT 6094. AND the stupidest thing was that Marines deployed to the stan had plate carriers. WTF
Robert Russo because it’s a snag hazard and a good way to injure yourself. That’s why virtually no one does it that way anymore. Bungee arresting or locking mounts only.
@@SageDynamics Was going to say, the mounts are meant to break away right? 550 would still snap your neck if your on a operation operating operationally.(back of fast secured technical truck and tree branch goes by or something)
While I agree that what he is talking about is just basic stuff, if you have seen the elephant before you would know that even a guy who never shot a gun in his life can easily kill someone who trained to the highest standard for all their life. That is just the way warfare works, sometimes you can do everything right and still lose to the guy who does everything wrong. No one is dead until they are.
soooooo what's y'all thought on budget builds? Like say get an Emerson, FMA, Lancer Tactical *cough* AIRSOFT *cough* bump helmet as a night vision host. For the most part, if you buy the "higher end" one. It comes with a sturdy VAS shroud (sometime aluminum) that can fit most Rhino mount quite snugged.
akira357 the more expensive helmets will be more comfortable, and better quality parts. The team wendy for example has sealed pads, so they wont absorb sweat. To clean them you just rinse them off in the sink
Tactical Crusader His "low budget" build is not even the lowest mil spec option my dude. Team Wendy is $300. Regular ops core helmet goes for $200. His wilcox mount is at least $500 not to mention that he has to get a different arm for that dual pvs-14, which is like easily another $500. Dual pvs-14....well roughly $6000. You can get into the night vision game (non combat) for a lot cheaper than that. Of course if I'm buying a ballistic I'm not gonna buy airsoft shit. So yeah I'm just asking for Sage opinion if airsoft helmet can be a temporary mean for the average joe to get into night vision.
Nutnfuddy 5.56 of course I get that. Driving a Lambo is a lot better than a Honda. But the thing is. I don't know about you. But the average joes don't have money to blow on a bump helmet that cost more than 2 level 3 AR500 plates and offer no ballistic protection. And first of all. I'm sure you're not even special ops. Those guys get these gear FOR FUCKING FREE! so for a citizen to buy into shit like this is like already a luxury.
There’s a bunch of light options for cheap why retrofit your own? And instead of buying a radio so that you have coms you’d rather do the opposite and cut the communication cables off your Peltors? 🤷♂️really???
No need for a counterweight. Just attach some big helium ballons to the front of the helmet to keep it from shifting forward, problem solved.
That’s some tier one shit
y e s
Don't be giving away spec ops secrets
Even better if it's those reflective, crinkly mylar balloons. The mylar reflects the infrared spectrum, masking your IR signature. Boom. Full spectrum stealth
I like to add the NVGs to the back of the helmet and put the counterweight in the front so there’s no chance of my vision being obscured if the Wilcox mount fails and the monocular drops and blocks my vision
5 years later (2022) and this video still rocks.
Thx for sharing your setup, Jon. I appreciate your insights & your down-to-earth teaching approach. 👍👍
Great video. I would like to see a video on Aarons new fancy white phosphor tubes and the white vs green debate and 3rd gen night vision vs 3+gen and 2nd and 1rds gen nightvision tubes.
yep, I'm gonna have to watch this a few times! been wanting to learn about night vision and the setups!
Looking forward to more great stuff from Jon.
"Lot's of derp out there on helmets..." YES, there is!! Probably one of the better vids I've come across on this topic. TY. Just a note...you said you'd probably never have need for coms again. Not something I'd take for granted. I'd encourage you to NOT CUT your plugs n mic. But, like you said, gotta find what works for you. Thanks again!!
I was blessed to have a friend find me a gently used blemless Elbit Gen 3 thin filmed green phos PVS-14 for $1950 shipped. Low Light Innovations makes a terrific "white" filter that essentially mimics white phos in appearance with limited light transmission loss for only $25. To save money on the mount, he suggested an "Evolution Gear L4G24 NVG Mount Perfect Replica" for only $85 shipped instead of the $465 for the real one, and the quality is phenomenal. I also picked up a used Wilcox AN/PVS-14 Arm for $150 shipped down from the original $229 price. Botach has a Longfri Level IIIA ballistic helmet for only $199 that is around 3 pounds, good quality for the price and there are lots of ballistic test videos on them. I also went with the FCS AMP Headset that is a fully functioning Replica of the Ops Core AMP for only $175 shipped down from $999 for the real one. I plan on running a Disco 32 PTT with them to get my Comms squared away. Although all of this stuff is still expensive, there are ways of making NVGs and Comms realistically affordable instead of an unobtainable pipe dream. I highly encourage yourself and others to do the same. I was able to have just as functional of a setup for a little more than $2,500 that would have been $7,500+ if I had gone "Gucci" on everything.........
great video. Love the doughboy helmets on the safe!! totally cool!
Thank you Jon. Solid advice.
Greatly appreciated and informative.
Its funny, I'm waiting for the same counter weight from the same company, great video My Brother in Arms, Blessings to you and your family.
This is really a great video. Very straightforward and breaking it down simple for people that are thinking about getting into night vision.
I would like to hear more about the equipment, different options and how to set everything up and getting it to work together. Some information right down to the buttons and switches would be great.
I wear ANVIS 9s for work on my flight helmet and they are heavy and very front heavy, even with the factory lead weights on the back battery pack. I don't like that about them one bit. Nice set up brother.
Nice system and your set up is legit
Sick Video Man..... Thank You.
Nice video. As a guy who has taken a branch to the face while running with nvgs I support eye pro lol.
Great video. Thanku. Just came across it so idk if this will ever get a response BUT, wondering about a low power IR light on the helmet for being able to search or inventory an area visually without ha omg to move or point my IR weapon light in the direction I’m looking? Haven’t seen many or any folks setup like that but seems to me (newb acknowledged) to maybe be a good idea? Anyway, thanks again
Great vid!
Anyone know if your supposed to use the bungie's to hold the night vision in the front of the helmets?
Very helpful info!
What bridge mount you rockin playa?
Hey dude, nice nod setup. Question: are your tubes matched? Do you think it's a big deal? I'm getting ready to run a dual pvs-14 set up..but lots of haters be all like, "dude, your gonna get headaches" ...im like yeah, ok. I've heard this before. I guess I'll find out the longer I wear them.
really dope vid
I need some advice. I am looking to get some sort of NV monocular to mount on a helmet. I already have a clip on thermal rifle scope that I mount in front of my day scope to hunt hogs at night. its really hard to use the thermal for movement purposes at night, especially since I have to detach it from the rifle. Is there some sort of setup that would allow me to view NV through my left eye that would leave enough room next to my right eye to easily throw the rifle up and shoot through the thermal with my right eye?
Don't cut the cables to your peltors please trade me for my non com peltors
that makes so much sense!!
Like your setup...Only thing I would switch out, would be to run that battery pack that allows for you to run your NODs straight off the pack..It also gives you a reserve battery source that lets you flip a switch and your fully juiced again
50 Stitches Steel didn't know you can do that. Video idea?
akira357 I can't remember the name of the pack but here's a video of the one I was talking about...czcams.com/video/wxupNrSWq_o/video.html
Is it possible to convert dual 14s to run off of an external battery pack?
Are the batteries for the Night vision goggles enough to counterweight the helmet?
Can you post links to all the gear you bought to build that helmet.
Great vid. Thx
Your dual pvs-14 setup looks so much more compact and better looking. I take it that's the norotos losto?
what type of bridge mount?
que tipo de visor usas y su accesorios gracias
jon always has the dope jams
Kal El The dopest.
AHHH Yeaahhh, another SageDynamics Video
10:45 +1 Good video man, thanks.
What type/model NVGS are those?
what we need to add accesories like tha
What bridge are you running?
What night vision goggles are you using
Ótimo equipamento de primeira qualidade
It’s weird seeing Jon before he became a night vision addict. This is like one of those pre-meth photos
Is it a bad idea to attach an IR Light to the helmet instead of running the lower power IR light built into the pvs-14?
That drains your nods quicker
Can anyone please tell me what bridge this is ??
Who makes those NVGs?
My setup is very similar- I prefer single nods, for some reason it works better for me
como comfigurarias un csco mich 2000
More from this guy?
What kind of bridge is that??
I have a stupid question how much would all this stuff cost on a helmet exactly like you have this is one of the best vids thanks for your time
2x PVS14s- Roughly 6K. About 3k a pop from a reputable seller.
Bridge mount for PVS 14s- Any where from 300-1500
Helmet- About 300
Earpro/comms with rail mounts -400
TNVC Mohawk- Roughly 60-80 depending on generation and model.
I would guess the light on the side is in the 200-300 range.
Expect just south of 10k for something like this.
Could probably do it for 8-9k if you shop around and wait for sales and stuff to go on clearance. DO NOT GET ANY OF THIS STUFF OFF OF EBAY OR AMAZON. There is a good chance that it will be a cheap knock off.
Sounds about right, you could do a functional setup for cheaper though
1pvs-14 gen 3 -2-2500
Bump helmet used -200
Howard Leight earpro with unity mark -100
Mohawk 60
Cheap streamlight /used surefire helmet light -50
Rhino 2 mount -60
I set myself up with something similar for under 3k
@@Rolley189 Is that common to buy 2 pvs14, and put them together,I thought was ment to be one eye and if you wanted 2 you would buy a setup that's made that way.
@@meh9682 I would say somewhat common. Most people buy a 14 first due to their versatility and cost. Usually 2500-3000. They then save up for another and bridge them like you see in the video. (I would caution against this as if you get two tubes that aren't similarly specd your eyes will be receiving resolutions of information and you could get some sever eye strain leading to a bad headache after and hour or two)This allows you split the units and hand one off to someone else. It is VERY heavy though and a mod3 bravo would achieve the same result. I don't believe that unit was available at the time this video was made.
that intro was lit!
I want to buy this system. Links!!!
What nv would you recommend for a civilian with a hinting application in mind that won't break the bank?
andre plummer a single tube pvs 14. 3500$
@TCB hog hunting application
nice video thanks :)
how do you like dual PVS14s?, I just bought a PVS14 cuz cant afford dtnvgs, and all the ones i found were for aviation so fragile, f that.
Jon do you recommend bnvd or a monocular (i.e. PVS-14)?
Thank you Jon for your response.
I saved enough pennies to finally get a white phosphor PVS14 2 years ago and now I feel like I need to have another and a bridge
In the Army my Kevlar was so unbalanced with my nods. Dunno why I never inquired about using a counterweight. But no one else in my company used a counterweight that I was aware of
Grego1776 lol same here dude. When i was in the Marines it was a bitch to use NODs. ESPECIALLY in the prone. It looked like i was doing some kind of yoga pose just to see where my laser was tracking lol. Shit back then i didn't know any of this existed. No one had this shit in my unit and if i would have used it I'd probably have been told to take it off. Our 1st Sgt was all SOPs or nothing
Logan Raney LOL sounds like my unit. Had I stepped into the field with some innovative, better method of balancing heavy ass night vision on my head, I'm sure someone would have an issue with it haha
Grego1776 Yeah for real man. Fuck you if you try to improve anything, and with your OWN money. I bought a plate carrier for a training event overseas in norway we were going on and my squad leader was like nope. But i still got to use it cuz a guy in another fireteam "forgot" his flak and my squad leader made him use the issue one i had brought just in case. I caught shit the whole time we were there for using a non issue piece of gear. It wasn't a cheapo pos airsoft plate carrier either it was a LBT 6094. AND the stupidest thing was that Marines deployed to the stan had plate carriers. WTF
And from the army right pog
Not expecting to hear the 4 owls on this haha
The next person that says "shenanigans"...
You need a lanyard or some 550 cord Incase the nods come off there goes $6k+ unless I missed it.
Robert Russo if you don’t use BS bayonet mounts, that kind of stuff doesn’t happen.
SageDynamics
I’m sure it’s not likely with Wilcox mounts ect but a piece of 550 cord is free so why not
Robert Russo because it’s a snag hazard and a good way to injure yourself. That’s why virtually no one does it that way anymore. Bungee arresting or locking mounts only.
@@SageDynamics Was going to say, the mounts are meant to break away right? 550 would still snap your neck if your on a operation operating operationally.(back of fast secured technical truck and tree branch goes by or something)
This is John from TNVC and now Kinetic Consulting lmfaooo
12:50 Whats eye pro?
Eye protection
LOL "Helmet setup... starts with the helmet" Pahh!!!
mtek on thumbnail team wendy in vid Oof
mtek master race. Just saying.
I wish I knew about half of what you are talking about
Aaron Falmlen he talks shit. in real life ...he is a dead guy.
While I agree that what he is talking about is just basic stuff, if you have seen the elephant before you would know that even a guy who never shot a gun in his life can easily kill someone who trained to the highest standard for all their life. That is just the way warfare works, sometimes you can do everything right and still lose to the guy who does everything wrong. No one is dead until they are.
#BanDerpyShit
RLTW
soooooo what's y'all thought on budget builds? Like say get an Emerson, FMA, Lancer Tactical *cough* AIRSOFT *cough* bump helmet as a night vision host.
For the most part, if you buy the "higher end" one. It comes with a sturdy VAS shroud (sometime aluminum) that can fit most Rhino mount quite snugged.
akira357 the more expensive helmets will be more comfortable, and better quality parts. The team wendy for example has sealed pads, so they wont absorb sweat. To clean them you just rinse them off in the sink
Tactical Crusader His "low budget" build is not even the lowest mil spec option my dude. Team Wendy is $300. Regular ops core helmet goes for $200. His wilcox mount is at least $500 not to mention that he has to get a different arm for that dual pvs-14, which is like easily another $500. Dual pvs-14....well roughly $6000.
You can get into the night vision game (non combat) for a lot cheaper than that. Of course if I'm buying a ballistic I'm not gonna buy airsoft shit. So yeah I'm just asking for Sage opinion if airsoft helmet can be a temporary mean for the average joe to get into night vision.
Nutnfuddy 5.56 of course I get that. Driving a Lambo is a lot better than a Honda.
But the thing is. I don't know about you. But the average joes don't have money to blow on a bump helmet that cost more than 2 level 3 AR500 plates and offer no ballistic protection.
And first of all. I'm sure you're not even special ops. Those guys get these gear FOR FUCKING FREE! so for a citizen to buy into shit like this is like already a luxury.
So when I was teaching all the cool rappelling shit I did I saw an Emerson and FMA helmet break right down the middle when they had major hits on them
"Don't focus on trees that's stupid" every leader in the military "you see that big tree 100 meters that way? Yeah focus on that.". 🤣
Four owls!!!
So do you buy your helmet a drink before or after you fist it😜 hehe
His video may cost me a fortune
Who’s hear after call of duty modern warfare?
Lol. I'm was playing that earlier. Just here to find which things I should get for my future helmet setup.
3/75!?
Same question; he's got a tan beret and the 3 diamond.
RLTW brother! 2/75 here.
Be a lot cooler if that were a 😁
Terrible Music Choice bro!
Good product description.
that
That tan beret and cab tho
CIB bro don't disrespect
CIB....
There’s a bunch of light options for cheap why retrofit your own? And instead of buying a radio so that you have coms you’d rather do the opposite and cut the communication cables off your Peltors? 🤷♂️really???
looky from thor
You must be kidding about not needing comms.....RIGHT????????
YZFoFittie you do know that not everyone drops 6K on comms for personal use, right?
SageDynamics 6k???? A Baofeng radio is $30...lol
YZFoFittie that’s not a real radio. I don’t play airsoft
SageDynamics your foolishness is painful...
YZFoFittie ok smart guy, educate me on why I need comms for an NV helmet by default. Who am I taking to?
Had to fast forward the CIA sponcered rap music in the beginning it hurts my ears till they bleed.
What with that music.
Thumbnail = clickbait
Music if you can call it music sucks
Don’t cut your coms cables...zip ties and electric tape..COME ON RANGER TIE THAT SHIT DOWN
Ultra bad "music".
Dude, that music is big time annoying. Shit. Good informative vid otherwise.
LL L K grandpa
@@jdldrummer ok young'in
Ugh this “music”is trash lol.
music sucks
Terrible audio, I quit watching after a couple of minutes
What nv would you recommend for a civilian with a hinting application in mind that won't break the bank?