Well, I think it's because they were going in a straight line, if they were like above the sky with missiles spreading, I think CIWs would get overwhelmed, I don't know between American and Russian. I know that Russian fire much faster then American one.
What this scene doesn't seem to take into account is that even if you destroy the missiles before they impact the sub, you still have the total mass of those missiles traveling at those speeds and impacting the sub, it's gonna be like shotgun blast to the hull repeatedly.
Yes but if they were HEAT missiles, then the damage would be less, since the shape charge would prematurely detonate leaving only fuel, and bits of shrapnel to impact the sub. It would be damaged but I think the armour on the sub could take it
@@reclusiarchgrimaldus1269 Matthew 6:5 "And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others." Or in your case, repeatedly posting your verses on this channel.
Повністю згоден. Не існує росіян з головою на плечах, існують тільки тупі раби, які тупо ковтають все, що їм кажуть в зомбіящику та бояться слово впоперек владі сказати. "Мірниє люді", по вам і видно. Тьху!
AA in those games are completely useless on any ship, even the best AA in the game won't save you (unless your a carrier yourself then your probably fine)
In real life, the Russian Kashtan CIWS is a very efficient and redundant defensive weapon system. It actually has a number of surface-to-air missile launchers below the gatling gun. The launchers are not separate weapons system but part of the whole CIWS package. To destroy incoming threats, the missile launchers would actually fire first. The gatling gun would only fire to intercept and destroy incoming threats that have escaped the missile defense system. The whole process is performed automatically by computers. U.S. & Chinesse destroyers have gatling guns that could fire 6,000 rounds of ammo per minute as part of Its CIWS. The gatling gun in the Russian Kashtan system, however, is the only one in the world that could fire more than 10,000 rounds of 30mm ammo per minute.
у нас нет пушки гатлинга,у нас АК-630.The AK-630 is a Soviet and Russian fully automatic naval close-in weapon system based on a six-barreled 30 mm rotary cannon. In "630", "6" means 6 barrels and "30" means 30 mm. It is mounted in an enclosed automatic turret and directed by MR-123 radar and television detection and tracking. The system's primary purpose is defense against anti-ship missiles and other precision guided weapons. However it can also be employed against fixed or rotary wing aircraft, ships and other small craft, coastal targets, and floating mines. Once operational, this weapon system was rapidly adopted, with up to 8 units installed in every new Soviet warship (from mine-hunters to aircraft carriers), and hundreds produced in total.
The U.S. Navy's Phalanx CIWS system has a significantly reduced rate of fire compared to the original aircraft version of the "same" Gatling cannon; it is "only" 3000 rounds per minute in the Block 0 Phalanx, and 4500 rounds per minute in the newer Block 2. The GSh-30K Gatling cannons in the original Kashtan system fires at 4,500 rounds per minute as well, but the system incorporates two guns per mounting instead of one; the upgraded Kashtan-M system fires at 5,000 rounds per minute, again times two guns. As for the Chinese, the Type 730 CIWS they currently deploy has a firing range of 4,200 rounds per minute, although the new Type 1130 system on the new carrier Liaoning reportedly fires at 10,000 rounds per minute from a single gun, albeit an extremely bulky Gatling with eleven barrels.
Also, in real life, regardless of whose system is being used, that many missiles would not have been intercepted. The CIWS and CRAM systems are, like you said, last line of defense and they do not have anywhere close to a 100% kill rate.
At this distance you can’t do nothing really if you are not expecting it , no time to react !!!! The boat was ready the first time but the base didn’t expect that !!! Yup , normal . No system can protect you at this range without any prior warning , and the second missiles seems to be faster ( I guess eskander type ), hypersonic mate , specialty designed to hit strategic targets .
@@user-qg5pn1qd6s также, как и мы верим, что весь мир нас боится и что талибы с Ираном наши братья У всех свои мечты Иран например мечтает о ядерной войне, как и русские посмотрите телик сейчас нас буквально к этому готовят Скоро будет весело
In this case they already knew the target was the Sub. So the defense system for the ship and any automatic weapons they had just had to fire in the general area where they could intercept the missiles. If the missiles were coming for the destroyer it would be a different situation as they would represent a smaller target and interception gets harder.
Nebula I find the director is just flooding the screen with bright and flashing lights to distract from the lack of substance in this movie. Butler is just here for the paycheque
My last job in the RN was phalanx engineer. Very accurate system in tests against sub-sonic target drones. These gun systems have never been fired in anger as yet, let's pray they never will. The only naval unit to ever successfully shoot down a missile in anger was HMS Gloucester using Sea Dart back in the 90's
That was in the first gulf War. A missile fired at an Iowa class battleship either the USS Wisconsin or USS Missouri. And that British ship was providing protection against missiles.
The shrapnel would still have ruined that SSN as an effective submarine. A mission kill, if not an actual kill. Still, once you see Gerard Butler's name in a movie, you know that realism never had a look-in.
It actually would do very little to any major life supporting systems, primary hull, etc. I know it sounds crazy but that hy80 is THICK. Would def be some dents and paint missing. ETC(SS/IDW/SW) Retired.
@@TheGranicd Kortik is the actual name but Kashtan is the export name, similar like how Mil Mi8 is the designation used in Russia and Mil Mi17 in export version
этот фильм передает очень «глубокое» и «красивое» послание !! ... мы все братья! Хорошее или плохое у вас правительство !! но да, сделай свой вклад, чтобы быть хорошим человеком, мы все друзья и братья! Я плакала в конце фильма, они заставили меня прийти сюда, чтобы самовыражаться !!!
Film and reality are two different things. It turned out that Russia is not brothers. Reality sends a different message. Ukraine protects the whole world!
@@iratusviator4166 Украина сейчас - безумные последователи Бандеры, радостно танцующие на костях своих же соотечественников. Они утратили всё человеческое, что присуще адекватным людям.
@@Frankishteinus да ты просто ГЕНИЙ ! Большей глупости еще не читал ! Для начала ответь кто на кого напал ? А напала Россия на Украину ! Кто совершал зверства ? Это российские солдаты совершали зверства в Буче, Ирпене, Гостомеле, Изюме, Тростянце, Лимане и т.д.. Ты делаешь выводы сидя жопой на диване в дали от войны, а я все видел своими глазами ! Ты понял ? Я все видел своими глазами ! Так что мне плевать на все твои тупые фразы ! Позор вам и наша ненависть на века ! Мы своим внукам и правнукам расскажем кто и что такое российское зверье, потерявшее человеческий облик ! Будьте вы прокляты !
@@Frankishteinus еще одно подтверждение твоей тупости ! Мне не нужно верить или не верить, я знаю точно, ибо повторю - я все видел своими глазами ! Это твоя прерогатива верить и тупить ! А я ЗНАЮ !
I'm not an expert of military stuff,but the most unreal fact is that in the russian base they don't have countermeasures for missiles and the operators at the desk are looking aware of missiles only seeing them by the windows
xD The ship could intercept but the land base did not have to intercept, since Russia has one of the best anti-missile shields in the world...since they are masters of the rockets.
Tomahawk cruise missiles cannot intercept cruise missiles. It’s a long range surface to surface weapon. To date, I don’t think Russia has anything of value to intercept a missile since those defenses seem to fail a lot now.
@@gabrieldavidson4442Kalibr perform well on Ukraine battlefield dude, it's just Westen media trying to hode those truth from you, and Ukraine exaggerate the intercepted missiles like alot more than the real number
@@Philippe2008fr ya coz if you need to fire your CIWS, you're already too late, and you'd be hit by a missile after your CIWS shoots down 1-2. once you're hit, you're done.
@@the_fabulous_p14 Eh, not that I know enough about it but against cruise missiles, CIWS seem efficient. If they can plot the course they'd hit stuff just by sheer volume of fire. And in this case, with the destroyer not being the target and knowing their own ordnance they'd be very efficient against the missiles. Probably not against this many missiles, sure, but the movie logic does take it to an extreme launching them all at once.
@@martinsvilands7334 Even with a high rate of fire, the missile speed is about 3000 km/h, so the probability of being hit by CIWS bullets must be extremely low. Just to give an example of the difficulty : in WW1, machine guns mounted on planes were firing... right through the turning helix! The bullets were passing through the rotating blades, the speed of the bullet and the speed of the rotor making almost impossible for a bullet to hit the blades. if happened it was just deflecting the bullet (with reinforcement metal placed on the blades to deflect the bullet). So at the speed of a missile, it is just like a bullet is hit by another bullet! Probably Almost impossible
I don't think it would matter too much how fast you're flying towards a brick wall. The intent of CIWS is providing extreme volume of fire (which would generally be achieved by multiple systems firing at the same time) and increasing the statistical likelihood of hitting the target. Russian 3M-51 is 8 meters long and flies at 700m/s which would make it occupy any one space for roughly 1/100th of a second. Kashtan fires 150 (30x165mm) rounds a second at 850m/s- side by side this would be 4.5m line of projectiles but end to end we get a 24.5m rod of destruction which then occupies any one space for roughly 2.8/100 s. Obviously, there's no "rod" but the idea remains, given any one space on the trajectory it is occupied by the missile for 0.01s and 0.028 by a projectile from CIWS With all the missiles moving in from the same direction and moving in a trajectory a Russian ship would be quite familiar with seeing as it's the same ordnance they use, I'd suspect they'd have good success at dealing with the missiles. It's why you need overwhelming prolonged barrage to get through CIWS when they're reloading or repositioning for additional targets or ability to avoid being tracked and engaged at all. The reason CIWS are put on ships is that they're efficient at dealing with anti ship missiles at close range.
One thing: We see 6 total missiles fired by the Soviet missile launchers. However, counting on both visible and audible detonations from missiles hit by the CIWS, there were at least 9 warheads heading for the Arkansas. Either more missiles were fired just off screen, someone other than the base fired, or this is a flaw.
I don't care what anyone says, I will always find a certain charm in these (relatively) low budget actioners. For $40 million, this is actually pretty good CGI. And the 4K certainly helps.
Would just be a drag on the Americans. Russian ground forces has huge problems with recruits being sold into sexual slavery, and alcohol abuse. Which is only made worse by the widespread corruption and use of conscripts.
Gerard Butler's Captain character definitely understands making a high-risk/reward play in holding back his launch. As the movie stated, if he launched, the world would have seen the US as the aggressors. By waiting he turned it into Russians solving an internal domestic problem. Sorry, Ivan, no war today.
haha, that beast is on another level compared to the US phalanx system and Goalkeeper isn't even in the competition really. Phalanx still looks cooler though, like R2-D2 with a 20mm minigun.
Real shame the Russian sub captain passed away before it was released. Same guy that played the father in John Wick. Decent flick. Bugs me that the explosion and momentum of the debris would have still torn through the sub.
You fuckers in the comments, sure do talk a lot of shit. But it’s funny when Germany was kicking your ass who was your first phone call bitch. That’s right The United States of America 🇺🇸
If you look closely at 2:58, the explosion over the sub is being rewind back and used back in this scene Edit: or should i say this entire scene with the CIW and the missile is repeated
I think the guy edited it to look cool. I watched it in the movies and it wasn't repeated at all. I can clearly see some difference in this video and the actual movie.
Gotta love a Gatling-based rapid fire system, as mounted on AC130, A10 Thunderbolt, CIWS on USN vessels, Kashtan on Russian Navy vessels... anything that goes BRRRRRRRT! : )
Ye... a totally sick scene I don't care if it's realistic or not. I extended the scene by around 70%. The original movie it only Fires for about 4-5 seconds ( which is a long time actually)
@@briancampbell6156 Russian Kashtan CIWS that uses two 30x165mm cannons at 10 000RPM compared to Phalanx 20x102mm at 6000 RPM The Russian CIWS is in another league
Yes, that’s exactly how we can’t do anything, and the Kalashnikov assault rifle was not invented by Russians ... You are just a potential injured character from a joke about the Polite Elk)))
And pray you're not their targets you will be shredded in nanoseconds. One of the best Gun shield of the Russian Army followed by Tunguska and Pantsir Guns which fires about 6,000 rpm no closer gun can fire that much most rival guns are from US army which fires about 2,500 to 3,500 rounds per minutes which is not even close to Tunguska and Pantsir let alone the Kashtan which fires more than 10,000 rounds per minutes.
If you guys want to know that ciws exists in real life its called "The kashtan". It shoots at and insane 10,000 rpm and this movie is actually accurate to it.
Plenty of Hollywood movies go for this overtly dramatic, massively produced tone. It isn't terribly unique, and the film itself is similar to "The Hunt For Red October". Much like it, this movie is also based off a novel.
The Kortik CWIS system can put 10000 rounds downrange per minute, 2800 fps. The Kashtan is the export version of the Kortik, it only does about 8000. Both also use radar guided missiles and they can be used in tandem. You wonder if it's practical. That's a hell of a lot of ammunition being shot off.
I mean, I'd sure as hell pay tens of thousands to protect a boat worth millions if it came down to that. Lasers would be much more practical but they're not yet to the point they can replace throwing as literal a wall of lead at a target as you can manage
i am one of many weapons experts who spend their time on youtube confirming the realism of the videos presented. this video scene is very realistic, i can tell by some of the pixels, much like one would with photoshop. and the way gerard butler says battle stations is exactly how i would say it when i was in one of the five naval battles i was in that was a lot like this one. because this one is very realistic and good, and you can tell if you look at the pixels. thank you for coming to my TEDx talk.
@@krishanuphukan80 i know that. The Supreme Russian Ciws is equipped with x2 30mm auto cannons plus 8 SAM anti aircraft. (It seems mostly a secondary offensive artillery, than defensive one)
Yeah. IIRC it was called the Kashtan(might be wrong). 10k RPM and 40 SAMs that needed only 45 seconds to reload a clip of 8 missiles. And there were 6 of those things installed on their Aircraft Carrier. Upto 6 can be linked together and used on a ship.
@@krishanuphukan80 Kashtan (Kashtan) - an outdated complex (in the Russian fleet it has a different name - Dirk). According to the results of training firing, it was recognized that the combination of guns and missiles on one module makes sense on a tank, but not on a ship. Therefore, it was decided that it would be better to have a separate installation of Kinjal missiles (dagger) and separately, an AK-630 cannon mount.
Couldn't agree more. It would be awesome if they put their heads together and built a few spaceships. In all seriousness, when groups of people have to rely on one another to survive (in this case, in space), so much human bullsht completely disappears.
Not gonna happen anytime soon. You need common enemy to become allies. Maybe after alien invasion or suddenly a gate to the otherworld open in the middle of pacific, indian, atlantic ocean spewing fleets of enemies.
I like how on top of the inherent ridiculousness, they didn’t even coordinate that. Somehow the protagonist was the only one who knew that would happen. Imagine that.
But in reality the russian boats caught fire because of vlodomir smoking next to the fuel supply again, and those truck missile launchers never left the garage because someone had stolen the engines to buy some vodka
USA sub: achievement unlocked unknown friend, balls of steel
Russen DD: achievement unlocked return to sender, Fire for effect
Achievement unlocked "Comrades"
HAHAHAHA
Damn it you made me laugh
This is a good one 🤣
return to sender great spear catch from nanatsu no taizai
Who ever was doing the maintenance on those Russian CIWS just got a promotion.
Facts!! 😂
@@Act1v8ed no shit
The fact they were moving that fast with that kind of accuracy dude must had gotten a big promotion
He is now captain a frigate.
Well, I think it's because they were going in a straight line, if they were like above the sky with missiles spreading, I think CIWs would get overwhelmed, I don't know between American and Russian. I know that Russian fire much faster then American one.
What this scene doesn't seem to take into account is that even if you destroy the missiles before they impact the sub, you still have the total mass of those missiles traveling at those speeds and impacting the sub, it's gonna be like shotgun blast to the hull repeatedly.
If what you mean to say is that the sub would definitely be more than rocked and damaged, you would be correct
Yes but if they were HEAT missiles, then the damage would be less, since the shape charge would prematurely detonate leaving only fuel, and bits of shrapnel to impact the sub. It would be damaged but I think the armour on the sub could take it
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@@reclusiarchgrimaldus1269
Matthew 6:5
"And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others." Or in your case, repeatedly posting your verses on this channel.
@@TheClord123, The sub can withstand that, its just an Ant bite
Or a minor damage..
Massive fire
#😆
🤔 2:12
Plot twist, the Russian destroyer got mad that the land-based Russians tried to steal their kill so they teamkilled
Idk why I'm laughing so hard at this but I am 🤣
Сюжет в стиле Голливуда. Логики минимум, максимум маразма. Главное хорошая графика
LMAO...!
Lol
Ban 1 month
How many times has Gerard Butler saved the world?
I see what you did there.
I know him. He has also the power to roll out Covid-19 vaccine
but he did not save sparta
He needs to save the world from covid19
Field Marshal Khalifa Haftar 😂 this is very true
As someone who fought in 27 different naval battles , I can tell you that this scene is without a doubt highly accurate and super realistic.
online doesnt count
@@roostersideburns3440 just a little, no?
and full of timely propaganda.... don't you think?
@@roostersideburns3440 neither does your mom
@@The_BIG_salad your mom does
Сценарий великолепен, как и трава которую они курили🤣
🤣🤣🤣🤣 full spot Russia from india Russia ukren war
Ну да, учитывая, что эти мартыханские самострелы не работают ни хрена
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Повністю згоден. Не існує росіян з головою на плечах, існують тільки тупі раби, які тупо ковтають все, що їм кажуть в зомбіящику та бояться слово впоперек владі сказати. "Мірниє люді", по вам і видно. Тьху!
Фантазер-ты меня называла
USA has announced to equip all the next generation submarines with newly developed plot armour.
Lmao😂
Tougher than steel
Till China develops plot missile ...
Lol
@@mungo7136 They already have. Plot missiles, plot ships, plot planes and everything propaganda can come up with.
You know it's a flop movie when the Russians started speaking English with an accent.
Goldeneye was pretty good, and I'm pretty sure half its Russian characters were played by British guys.
What about the mini series Chernobyl?
@@StinkyGreenBud I haven't watch that is it any good?
@@RAZR_Channel it's beyond good, even though some are inaccurate due to dramatization
@@otaimaksimaify It's Hollywood.... always going to be over the top for entertainment value...
Я прошу прощения, но «стая» уже 40 лет назад так не работала. 8 ракет это четыре направления, шансов их сбить практически нет. Фантазёры )))
А сейчас так вообще сверху, из мёртвой зоны атакуют.
Ну холивудь! Шо с них взять! А сейчас и подавну не собьют!
Да и с одного-то направления 6 самострелами
I did not know that the Khabarovsk or Grozovoi had such great AA, no wonder they nerfed them so badly in World of Warship
Looks like every russkie bucket is buffed immensely in these games
AA in those games are completely useless on any ship, even the best AA in the game won't save you (unless your a carrier yourself then your probably fine)
In real life, the Russian Kashtan CIWS is a very efficient and redundant defensive weapon system. It actually has a number of surface-to-air missile launchers below the gatling gun. The launchers are not separate weapons system but part of the whole CIWS package. To destroy incoming threats, the missile launchers would actually fire first. The gatling gun would only fire to intercept and destroy incoming threats that have escaped the missile defense system. The whole process is performed automatically by computers.
U.S. & Chinesse destroyers have gatling guns that could fire 6,000 rounds of ammo per minute as part of Its CIWS. The gatling gun in the Russian Kashtan system, however, is the only one in the world that could fire more than 10,000 rounds of 30mm ammo per minute.
Wow 😳
у нас нет пушки гатлинга,у нас АК-630.The AK-630 is a Soviet and Russian fully automatic naval close-in weapon system based on a six-barreled 30 mm rotary cannon. In "630", "6" means 6 barrels and "30" means 30 mm. It is mounted in an enclosed automatic turret and directed by MR-123 radar and television detection and tracking. The system's primary purpose is defense against anti-ship missiles and other precision guided weapons. However it can also be employed against fixed or rotary wing aircraft, ships and other small craft, coastal targets, and floating mines. Once operational, this weapon system was rapidly adopted, with up to 8 units installed in every new Soviet warship (from mine-hunters to aircraft carriers), and hundreds produced in total.
Good
The U.S. Navy's Phalanx CIWS system has a significantly reduced rate of fire compared to the original aircraft version of the "same" Gatling cannon; it is "only" 3000 rounds per minute in the Block 0 Phalanx, and 4500 rounds per minute in the newer Block 2. The GSh-30K Gatling cannons in the original Kashtan system fires at 4,500 rounds per minute as well, but the system incorporates two guns per mounting instead of one; the upgraded Kashtan-M system fires at 5,000 rounds per minute, again times two guns.
As for the Chinese, the Type 730 CIWS they currently deploy has a firing range of 4,200 rounds per minute, although the new Type 1130 system on the new carrier Liaoning reportedly fires at 10,000 rounds per minute from a single gun, albeit an extremely bulky Gatling with eleven barrels.
Also, in real life, regardless of whose system is being used, that many missiles would not have been intercepted. The CIWS and CRAM systems are, like you said, last line of defense and they do not have anywhere close to a 100% kill rate.
that must be the slowest missile warning system ever
At this distance you can’t do nothing really if you are not expecting it , no time to react !!!! The boat was ready the first time but the base didn’t expect that !!! Yup , normal . No system can protect you at this range without any prior warning , and the second missiles seems to be faster ( I guess eskander type ), hypersonic mate , specialty designed to hit strategic targets .
It’s because windows 10 isn’t updated
@john abharam its mach3 not 4
It's all about the fanatic HOLLYWOOD movies.
Bruh nice fake spider
Мечты американцев в голливудском исполнении!Наивность поражает!
Респект! Но они в это свято верят))))
@@user-qg5pn1qd6s также, как и мы верим, что весь мир нас боится и что талибы с Ираном наши братья
У всех свои мечты
Иран например мечтает о ядерной войне, как и русские
посмотрите телик сейчас
нас буквально к этому готовят
Скоро будет весело
@@user-vk6ux1gx9s МЫ РОССИЯ ДЕРЖАВА!!!НАМ НЕ НУЖНО В ЭТО ВЕРИТЬ. МЫ ЭТО ЗНАЕМ!ПОНЯТНО.
Как всегда Галлевуд в своем репертуаре,невозможное зделаеть возможным,через свои Фентези фильми.😁😁😁
Как ты умудрился сделать столько ошибок в 15 словах а
@@Capitoshca это зомби патриоты, у них нет мозга
Да, как мы видим, в реальности российский сторожевой корабль не способен сбить не то что восемь ракет, а один морской дрон из говна и палок
Trusting deck guns to protect against that many missiles is a bad plan.
In this case they already knew the target was the Sub. So the defense system for the ship and any automatic weapons they had just had to fire in the general area where they could intercept the missiles. If the missiles were coming for the destroyer it would be a different situation as they would represent a smaller target and interception gets harder.
Nebula I find the director is just flooding the screen with bright and flashing lights to distract from the lack of substance in this movie. Butler is just here for the paycheque
That sub would be toast
Abul C. Yes but only lightly toasted lol
I think your all forgetting this is a fucken movie, learn to enjoy one
Spartans What's your profession? oh I'm in the wrong movie
more like...Comrades ? whats your profession ??? URAA URAA URAA
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lol :)
Is that him?
THIS IS SPARTAAAA!!!
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This is the most wonderful movies I had ever seen, so beautiful. Great job.
My last job in the RN was phalanx engineer. Very accurate system in tests against sub-sonic target drones.
These gun systems have never been fired in anger as yet, let's pray they never will.
The only naval unit to ever successfully shoot down a missile in anger was HMS Gloucester using Sea Dart back in the 90's
That’s only because it’s very rare for missiles to be fired upon ships at sea in the first place.
That was in the first gulf War. A missile fired at an Iowa class battleship either the USS Wisconsin or USS Missouri. And that British ship was providing protection against missiles.
Well, Phalanx works. Though the russkies' BB shots don't.
@@szt1980 wrong for a variety of reasons I won’t explain to you since you clearly don’t care enough to do the research on your own
How much was learned from the Falklands War i wonder? Was it developed after seeing the damage from Exocets?
The shrapnel would still have ruined that SSN as an effective submarine. A mission kill, if not an actual kill. Still, once you see Gerard Butler's name in a movie, you know that realism never had a look-in.
You didn't know Butler had plot armor? That's better than any missile.
It actually would do very little to any major life supporting systems, primary hull, etc. I know it sounds crazy but that hy80 is THICK. Would def be some dents and paint missing. ETC(SS/IDW/SW) Retired.
@@rxonmymind8362 at some speeds the shrapnel converts into bullets that can pen armour
The missiles wouldn't be destroyed like that in the first place
Lolol
RIP to all those at the command center who had nothing to do with the betrayal.
Just.. Wrong place.... Wrong time...
2:53 why did you replay and reverse a bunch of scenes of the CIWS? in the movie it's only 6 seconds but in this its awkwardly stretched to 12
I think, it's time to build every submarine with plot armor installed.
It's effective af
*Plot twist:* he just wanted to know how good the Russian Kortik CIWS really are against incoming projectiles
Wasn't it Kashtan?
@@TheGranicd Kortik is the actual name but Kashtan is the export name, similar like how Mil Mi8 is the designation used in Russia and Mil Mi17 in export version
Did u took my name?
@@youcompleteme2602 Your parents must be a fan of the Kortik they named it after their son
movie name?
этот фильм передает очень «глубокое» и «красивое» послание !! ... мы все братья! Хорошее или плохое у вас правительство !! но да, сделай свой вклад, чтобы быть хорошим человеком, мы все друзья и братья! Я плакала в конце фильма, они заставили меня прийти сюда, чтобы самовыражаться !!!
Film and reality are two different things. It turned out that Russia is not brothers. Reality sends a different message. Ukraine protects the whole world!
@@iratusviator4166 Украина сейчас - безумные последователи Бандеры, радостно танцующие на костях своих же соотечественников. Они утратили всё человеческое, что присуще адекватным людям.
@@Frankishteinus да ты просто ГЕНИЙ ! Большей глупости еще не читал ! Для начала ответь кто на кого напал ? А напала Россия на Украину ! Кто совершал зверства ? Это российские солдаты совершали зверства в Буче, Ирпене, Гостомеле, Изюме, Тростянце, Лимане и т.д.. Ты делаешь выводы сидя жопой на диване в дали от войны, а я все видел своими глазами ! Ты понял ? Я все видел своими глазами ! Так что мне плевать на все твои тупые фразы ! Позор вам и наша ненависть на века ! Мы своим внукам и правнукам расскажем кто и что такое российское зверье, потерявшее человеческий облик ! Будьте вы прокляты !
@@iratusviator4166 верь дальше в свой собственный бред, нормальным людям твои глупые сказки давно не интересны.
@@Frankishteinus еще одно подтверждение твоей тупости ! Мне не нужно верить или не верить, я знаю точно, ибо повторю - я все видел своими глазами ! Это твоя прерогатива верить и тупить ! А я ЗНАЮ !
I'm not an expert of military stuff,but the most unreal fact is that in the russian base they don't have countermeasures for missiles and the operators at the desk are looking aware of missiles only seeing them by the windows
xD The ship could intercept but the land base did not have to intercept, since Russia has one of the best anti-missile shields in the world...since they are masters of the rockets.
Tomahawk cruise missiles cannot intercept cruise missiles. It’s a long range surface to surface weapon. To date, I don’t think Russia has anything of value to intercept a missile since those defenses seem to fail a lot now.
@@gabrieldavidson4442Kalibr perform well on Ukraine battlefield dude, it's just Westen media trying to hode those truth from you, and Ukraine exaggerate the intercepted missiles like alot more than the real number
Phalanx : i'm the best CIWS in the world
Kashtan : i think you had too much vodka kamrad
Even if Kashan is better, in real life both have a probability to stop a missile about... zero.
@@Philippe2008fr ya coz if you need to fire your CIWS, you're already too late, and you'd be hit by a missile after your CIWS shoots down 1-2. once you're hit, you're done.
@@the_fabulous_p14 Eh, not that I know enough about it but against cruise missiles, CIWS seem efficient. If they can plot the course they'd hit stuff just by sheer volume of fire.
And in this case, with the destroyer not being the target and knowing their own ordnance they'd be very efficient against the missiles.
Probably not against this many missiles, sure, but the movie logic does take it to an extreme launching them all at once.
@@martinsvilands7334
Even with a high rate of fire, the missile speed is about 3000 km/h, so the probability of being hit by CIWS bullets must be extremely low.
Just to give an example of the difficulty : in WW1, machine guns mounted on planes were firing... right through the turning helix!
The bullets were passing through the rotating blades, the speed of the bullet and the speed of the rotor making almost impossible for a bullet to hit the blades. if happened it was just deflecting the bullet (with reinforcement metal placed on the blades to deflect the bullet).
So at the speed of a missile, it is just like a bullet is hit by another bullet! Probably Almost impossible
I don't think it would matter too much how fast you're flying towards a brick wall. The intent of CIWS is providing extreme volume of fire (which would generally be achieved by multiple systems firing at the same time) and increasing the statistical likelihood of hitting the target.
Russian 3M-51 is 8 meters long and flies at 700m/s which would make it occupy any one space for roughly 1/100th of a second.
Kashtan fires 150 (30x165mm) rounds a second at 850m/s- side by side this would be 4.5m line of projectiles but end to end we get a 24.5m rod of destruction which then occupies any one space for roughly 2.8/100 s. Obviously, there's no "rod" but the idea remains, given any one space on the trajectory it is occupied by the missile for 0.01s and 0.028 by a projectile from CIWS
With all the missiles moving in from the same direction and moving in a trajectory a Russian ship would be quite familiar with seeing as it's the same ordnance they use, I'd suspect they'd have good success at dealing with the missiles.
It's why you need overwhelming prolonged barrage to get through CIWS when they're reloading or repositioning for additional targets or ability to avoid being tracked and engaged at all.
The reason CIWS are put on ships is that they're efficient at dealing with anti ship missiles at close range.
"5 seconds sir"
*5 seconds later*
"3 seconds!"
Four months later....
One second.....
One thing: We see 6 total missiles fired by the Soviet missile launchers. However, counting on both visible and audible detonations from missiles hit by the CIWS, there were at least 9 warheads heading for the Arkansas. Either more missiles were fired just off screen, someone other than the base fired, or this is a flaw.
Or just edited scene from original movie
The missile not only locked it's target but calculated the best way to hit the building!
I don't care what anyone says, I will always find a certain charm in these (relatively) low budget actioners. For $40 million, this is actually pretty good CGI. And the 4K certainly helps.
I am not sure about the missiles, but I like that gun!! Terminator equipment.
That thing would waste a Terminator...
aimbot confirmed... VAC ban
Kashtan kortik
Kashtan kortik
Close in weapon system called Kashtan shoots 10000 rounds per min!
Plot Twist... the Moskva gets sunk
That CIWS destroying those missiles was an epic scene 👍👍
Could you imagine the power of a Russian/U.S. partnership?
I wish!
WW2 was the last time
Communist + Federal = not a good relationship
last time they did that, hitler was so fcked up
Would just be a drag on the Americans.
Russian ground forces has huge problems with recruits being sold into sexual slavery, and alcohol abuse.
Which is only made worse by the widespread corruption and use of conscripts.
The banks run the world and the countrys are just bigger cartels.
Русский офицер: - Fair!
Солдат: - Cho, blya??...
Blya
ахахахах
:o)))
Я бы тоже удивился, потому что "Fair" , означает "Ярмарка".
Чё за фильм?
Gerard Butler's Captain character definitely understands making a high-risk/reward play in holding back his launch. As the movie stated, if he launched, the world would have seen the US as the aggressors. By waiting he turned it into Russians solving an internal domestic problem.
Sorry, Ivan, no war today.
Now THAT was the best scene in the movie!
It's the russian CIWS for their destroyers, It's called Kashtan,, US equivalent is the phalanx,, and most european nations is the goalkeeper.
haha, that beast is on another level compared to the US phalanx system and Goalkeeper isn't even in the competition really. Phalanx still looks cooler though, like R2-D2 with a 20mm minigun.
This bad boy fires over 10,000 rounds per minute compared to the 6,000 from phalanx
Russian version of CIWS takes an huge amount of space on the ship tho
@@War_Daddy103 i stopped believing u even existed when u said goalkeeper wasn't even in competition. another Wikipedia warrior i see
Russian CIWS have more power than phalanx 10k per minutes
Real shame the Russian sub captain passed away before it was released. Same guy that played the father in John Wick. Decent flick. Bugs me that the explosion and momentum of the debris would have still torn through the sub.
well fock you man:( I did not know that man..:( shit
Badass movie!!! That Phalanx is an equalizer!!!
Od 2:53 to najlepszy fragment całego filmu 😃
I was wondering 🤔. But I wait until it's free on Netflix etc
Como é o nome desse filme
Как называется фильм?
@@Takoi_ya_chelovek Подводная лодка под названием "Москва." 😂😂😂
This is the worst CGI I've ever seen
Q: Who will win a war between Mighty Russian army vs Hollywood ?
A : Hollywood.
Q: Why ?!
A : Russians will die out of laughter.
In Hollywood they have Americans (Rambo) who knew jungles and Vietnam, guerilla warfare better than Vietnamese
@@akashkv5884 lol
indeed!😂🤣😅
You fuckers in the comments, sure do talk a lot of shit. But it’s funny when Germany was kicking your ass who was your first phone call bitch. That’s right The United States of America 🇺🇸
@@chrisdelagarza8048 yeah, US was the one to reach Berlin. Clearly.
If you look closely at 2:58, the explosion over the sub is being rewind back and used back in this scene
Edit: or should i say this entire scene with the CIW and the missile is repeated
Yes bro 2 times
It was so cringe
I think the guy edited it to look cool. I watched it in the movies and it wasn't repeated at all. I can clearly see some difference in this video and the actual movie.
Yeah this video is edited, the actual movie the scene is shorter, here they show the same angle multiple times and even reversed it.
Lol the guy edited it, it looked horrible tho
Those missiles in Slava Class is absolute bonkers, they send two for overkill
I can't get enough of this Kashtan firing scene!
I just love watching anything that makes use of the CIWS system it's just so damn cool
Gotta love a Gatling-based rapid fire system, as mounted on AC130, A10 Thunderbolt, CIWS on USN vessels, Kashtan on Russian Navy vessels... anything that goes BRRRRRRRT! : )
The Russian CWIS was wicked cool and totally awesome!!
Ye... a totally sick scene I don't care if it's realistic or not. I extended the scene by around 70%. The original movie it only Fires for about 4-5 seconds ( which is a long time actually)
He has never seen the American CIWS system up close and personal it is one weapon system that you do not remain on Deck during the firing
Rebecca Campbell Were talking about the Russian ciws
@@briancampbell6156 Russian Kashtan CIWS that uses two 30x165mm cannons at 10 000RPM compared to Phalanx 20x102mm at 6000 RPM
The Russian CIWS is in another league
@@briancampbell6156 nah phalanx is completely overshadowed by the kashtan
Hollywood really overestimated russian short range defence and missile abilities...
Yeah lol
* underestimated
REALITY MOVIE
2:59 watch the explosion it reversed
Thought it was just me 😅
How?
just lazy editor
Tenet
This was the only scene i remember from this movie.
Ya... And I extended it by about 70%... Still.... It's a Sick scene....
What is name?
Choirul Motor Kit hunter killer
Name of move
@@grudgex. right above you
Someone : What is the greatest wepon ?
Protagonist : HOPE !
One of the best submarine and war movie🔥
As a u.s. navy vet this movie is more like a comedy or SNL comedic improv then an action movie.
As an AF vet, I'm the same way with literally any movie involving airplanes, be they military or civilian.
since I am not a military expert, I can say this is one of the best movie scenes EVER
Me too.
Lol no
You need to see more movies
I was impressed by the scene where the Russian captain read out the horizontal name.
Ótimo filme
Vou assistir novamente
Gerard Butler next movie; "Hunter Killer Has Fallen" :D
Next movie is Killer Hunter
Man that sound of the continuous shooting loved it...🔥🔥🔥
No matter how accurate it was it's still good
In real life , Russian ciws can’t do shit. Because it was offline all the time
Yes, that’s exactly how we can’t do anything, and the Kalashnikov assault rifle was not invented by Russians ... You are just a potential injured character from a joke about the Polite Elk)))
"What just happened?" Kashtan-M, amazing perhaps too amazing, but it is arguably the best CIWS along with RAM.
2:56 fire so much that you can't miss
Вы даже не представляете насколько вы смешны, американцы, с такими фильмами
))) Смешно! Почему Супермена ещё не прислали и Микки Мауса?)))
These Red Alert cut scenes are getting quite good.
What kind of guns were those I never saw a full auto fire that fast in my life!!!
CIWS is Close In Weapons System used on military ships to defend against missiles and close range targets.
Kashtan of Russian Marine. 10.000 round per minute.
Kashtan E
Think they got them from a crashed starship enterprise 🤣😝
And pray you're not their targets you will be shredded in nanoseconds. One of the best Gun shield of the Russian Army followed by Tunguska and Pantsir Guns which fires about 6,000 rpm no closer gun can fire that much most rival guns are from US army which fires about 2,500 to 3,500 rounds per minutes which is not even close to Tunguska and Pantsir let alone the Kashtan which fires more than 10,000 rounds per minutes.
Dude that auto machine gun is so OP
guess the moscow didnt have one of these
If you guys want to know that ciws exists in real life its called "The kashtan". It shoots at and insane 10,000 rpm and this movie is actually accurate to it.
Is this an Hollywood adaptation of an anime, cause it really looks like one
Plenty of Hollywood movies go for this overtly dramatic, massively produced tone. It isn't terribly unique, and the film itself is similar to "The Hunt For Red October". Much like it, this movie is also based off a novel.
@@manuelmateo3392 A Red Storm Rising movie would be interesting.
Какая то странная ситуация. Ребята, давайте жить дружно! 😸
Написал орк, жалкий. 😂 😎🇺🇦💪
2:50 i love this scene the noise of the turrets shooting
Лучшая реклама системы Грязева и Шипунова !!!!!!!
The Kortik CWIS system can put 10000 rounds downrange per minute, 2800 fps. The Kashtan is the export version of the Kortik, it only does about 8000. Both also use radar guided missiles and they can be used in tandem. You wonder if it's practical. That's a hell of a lot of ammunition being shot off.
Ciws only job is to shoot fast
I mean, I'd sure as hell pay tens of thousands to protect a boat worth millions if it came down to that. Lasers would be much more practical but they're not yet to the point they can replace throwing as literal a wall of lead at a target as you can manage
i am one of many weapons experts who spend their time on youtube confirming the realism of the videos presented. this video scene is very realistic, i can tell by some of the pixels, much like one would with photoshop. and the way gerard butler says battle stations is exactly how i would say it when i was in one of the five naval battles i was in that was a lot like this one. because this one is very realistic and good, and you can tell if you look at the pixels. thank you for coming to my TEDx talk.
a Key discovered ... Thank you!
This Ciws is a badass. My new favorite one.
Funnily enough, that's half of the actual monster installed on Russian Warships.
@@krishanuphukan80 i know that. The Supreme Russian Ciws is equipped with x2 30mm auto cannons plus 8 SAM anti aircraft. (It seems mostly a secondary offensive artillery, than defensive one)
Yeah. IIRC it was called the Kashtan(might be wrong). 10k RPM and 40 SAMs that needed only 45 seconds to reload a clip of 8 missiles. And there were 6 of those things installed on their Aircraft Carrier. Upto 6 can be linked together and used on a ship.
@@krishanuphukan80 Kashtan (Kashtan) - an outdated complex (in the Russian fleet it has a different name - Dirk). According to the results of training firing, it was recognized that the combination of guns and missiles on one module makes sense on a tank, but not on a ship. Therefore, it was decided that it would be better to have a separate installation of Kinjal missiles (dagger) and separately, an AK-630 cannon mount.
@@user-ze7xw5yu4i they are not outdated, 1980 machine never be outdated
At the end bears and eagle go for walk together and come with big smile on face, this could be reality
Couldn't agree more. It would be awesome if they put their heads together and built a few spaceships. In all seriousness, when groups of people have to rely on one another to survive (in this case, in space), so much human bullsht completely disappears.
Not gonna happen anytime soon. You need common enemy to become allies. Maybe after alien invasion or suddenly a gate to the otherworld open in the middle of pacific, indian, atlantic ocean spewing fleets of enemies.
Won't happen. Reason, BRICS
...loved the ending Missile strike...as the would say..AMF before being hit👏😁👍
!! THIS - IS !! ... !!WA-TER!!!
Damn, those CWIS are no joke
Да, Россия не умеет так красиво рисовать анимацию как в Голливуде, но Россия делает реальное оружие, которое побеждает не в кино, а в реальности.
Да, ваша расея умеет красиво проебывать в реальности.
Это да! "Кинжал", и "Калибр". Ещё "Циркон" на подходе!!
Then your government decided to invade Ukraine and we all get to see how shitty your military really is lol
I like how on top of the inherent ridiculousness, they didn’t even coordinate that. Somehow the protagonist was the only one who knew that would happen. Imagine that.
The so called plot armor
Good Movie
I know it's just a movie but i love how the Russians choose to protect the Americans for the love of their two leaders on board the sub.
Hunter Killer is better than other action movies like extraction
America is just wishing it a true story lol
Lmao
This CIWS has a plot armour
what a brilliant technology at its finest
I have a hard time seeing Gerard Butler as a action guy since he did the movie The Ugly Truth.
That's called Russian defense baby.
Russian defense baby
Thats called hollywood fairytale baby
that russian ciws is damn impressive and satisfying.
Not in the real world though
But in reality the russian boats caught fire because of vlodomir smoking next to the fuel supply again, and those truck missile launchers never left the garage because someone had stolen the engines to buy some vodka
Its not how Kashtan CIWS sounds at all. Its sounds like doubled GAU-8 Avenger.
Фантазёр , ты меня называла ...
The Russian General was In John wick,the first movie.
He's a navy captain
John wick is USA an he born USA his wife is Russia so sad u don’t know about John wick
This was his last movie.
Where's the Moscow cruiser now?
Became submarine
Whoever gave the 15 seconds to impact needs to be fired, took 33 seconds