Oil-Based or Water-Based Relief Printing Inks?

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  • čas přidán 7. 09. 2024
  • What's the difference between oil-based vs water-based relief printing inks? We break down the main differences to help you choose which one is right for you and your project.
    Inks and materials available at www.handprinted.co.uk
    Oil-based inks:
    Caligo Safe Wash Relief Printing Ink (Oil-based but water washable): handprinted.co...
    Cranfield Traditional Relief Printing Ink (Oil-based): handprinted.co...
    Hawthorn Stay Open Inks (Oil-based): handprinted.co...
    Water-based inks:
    Lukas Studio Relief Inks (Water-based): handprinted.co...
    Schmincke Linoprint Inks (Water-based): handprinted.co...
    Speedball Block Printing Ink (Water-based): handprinted.co...

Komentáře • 60

  • @rocklobster3333
    @rocklobster3333 Před 2 lety +6

    very good video, straight forward, no music, good information very well packaged and conveyed.

  • @NT-ys3oh
    @NT-ys3oh Před 2 lety +7

    Just my personal experience experimenting with inks; if you live in a very humid area (tropical or subtropical in my case) Caligo safe wash can take literal months to dry. Even when placed in a dry closet with de-humidifiers! It’s a lovely ink but wasn’t a good fit for my location. The speedball ink actually worked better for me and resulted in only a couple days to dry. Just my experiences (and lots of money spent on projects that never dried!) that hopefully helps others

    • @Handprinteduk
      @Handprinteduk  Před 2 lety +1

      Gosh that is a long time! I cannot claim to have tried printing in a tropical climate - it's very far from it here in the UK!

    • @jimcochrane6455
      @jimcochrane6455 Před 2 lety

      It is minus 20C this morning as I watch and would like to suggest an in person demonstration but as I wait the invitation I could suggest cobalt or manganese driers. A little is a lifetime supply.

    • @Ghost-lt4sf
      @Ghost-lt4sf Před 2 lety +1

      So glad I saw this! I'm from the Caribbean and this very much applies. Thank you for sharing!

  • @lizpepper1199
    @lizpepper1199 Před 3 lety +2

    Very interesting video again, Holly. I had a tour of the Cranfield factory a couple of years ago with a group from Cardiff Print Workshop. It was fascinating, MD Michael gave us a talk about all the manufacturing processes, followed by a guided tour of the factory. When I started printmaking about 6 years ago I invested in cheap water-based inks, mainly Jackson's, so I'm reluctant to spend a lot of money on more expensive oil based. Many thanks for all your videos... very succinct and easy to watch!

    • @Handprinteduk
      @Handprinteduk  Před 3 lety

      Oh yes, Michael is very helpful and extremely knowledgeable!

  • @Ghost-lt4sf
    @Ghost-lt4sf Před 2 lety +1

    Found this on a search as a beginner! Subscribed :)

  • @vlahks86
    @vlahks86 Před rokem

    Excellent video Holly !! Thanks for taking the time for your presentation and your info !! I live in Connecticut, USA and we are having a dryer winter as usual so should not take too long to dry !! 🙂🙃😎

  • @chrisgiles9465
    @chrisgiles9465 Před 3 lety +2

    Really clear and helpful.

  • @lisalovelylpa
    @lisalovelylpa Před 2 lety

    I just started with oil based ink and wood block printing and wow one color takes over a week to dry lol but luckily I do other things in the art gallery so not waiting around for ink to dry.
    My biggest issue is the ink not coming off the block even , I get like speckled areas on the paper with no ink.
    Thanks for the video.

    • @Handprinteduk
      @Handprinteduk  Před 2 lety

      Switching to a thinner, smoother paper should help you get even coverage. Also applying more pressure with a baren or press can help.

  • @orelhaindiscreta
    @orelhaindiscreta Před rokem +1

    Dear Holly, thanks for the video. I find water based inks more difficult to spread with the brayer. I find it more slippery. It's my problem it's normal? I can I modify the ink "thakiness". Thanks!

  • @origamiharrihadi
    @origamiharrihadi Před 3 lety +1

    thank you for sharing

  • @orelhaindiscreta
    @orelhaindiscreta Před 3 lety +2

    Hello, Holly! Thanks for the video and for the clear explanation. Can you tell me if there's an extender for water based inks? Kind regards

    • @Handprinteduk
      @Handprinteduk  Před 3 lety +2

      Yes, lots of water-based inks have extenders. I'd advise you buy the one from the same range as the inks themselves.

  • @loukasmorley4143
    @loukasmorley4143 Před rokem

    Hello Holly - do you have any block printing inks that work well with both paper & Fabric-water based ideally ?
    Great video many thanks
    Loukas

  • @needle.thread.watercolor-jloh

    Once the print dries, can you colorize your print with watercolor when using the Cranfield Caligo or will the water dissolve the ink on the print?

  • @steffipilasch2641
    @steffipilasch2641 Před 3 lety +1

    Thank you so much for this Video! I began with water based (without knowing there are any differences). And i am most time happy with it BUT with golden, copper and silver with Schmincke it is not quite nice to work with, the printing quality just looks messy. So i was thinking to take my money and buy from UK or NL (where i only can buy cranfield golden, copper & silver). Did you know maybe the reason why it is just there to get?
    Great video! Love to watch your videos, they are always helpful and interesting :)

    • @Handprinteduk
      @Handprinteduk  Před 3 lety +1

      Cranfield is made in the UK so it's probably easier to get it here for that reason. The Cranfield metallics are beautiful. We've made a video about cleaning them: czcams.com/video/Tu7P7hGBI0k/video.html

    • @steffipilasch2641
      @steffipilasch2641 Před 3 lety +1

      @@Handprinteduk thank you so much Holly :) the video is really a help! Thank you so much! Happy printing :)

  • @actionkids6252
    @actionkids6252 Před 3 dny

    Hi there I use wood block carvings and was wondering if the water base inks can ruin the block if you use solvents to clean the block of it eats into the plywood

    • @Handprinteduk
      @Handprinteduk  Před 2 dny

      Hello, water-based inks do not need to be cleaned with solvents, just soap and water on a rag will clean it. Oil-based inks will need a solvent or oil to clean up. We haven't experienced any issue cleaning wood blocks, but I would advise that you clean off as much ink residue first with newsprint or a clean rag before using anything else to clean it. We don't want to get the blocks too wet.

  • @accountingink
    @accountingink Před rokem

    What is the experience of oil based inks on different types of Lino and Lino alternatives

  • @zoogrrl5309
    @zoogrrl5309 Před rokem

    I'm sorry, i know this is an older video but i'm in the process of setting up a printmaking portfolio at home in preparation of graduating and losing access to my school's large studio space soon. I really want to use water based inks for the cleanup and drytime, but i'm intending to sell prints. Are both water based inks and oil based inks considered to be archival grade? If i'm selling prints do i need to disclose that they're made with water-based inks? This is a very informal video!

  • @jamiematthews9293
    @jamiematthews9293 Před měsícem

    Can the oil based be thinned with mineral spirits and heat cured on vinyl?

    • @Handprinteduk
      @Handprinteduk  Před měsícem

      I'm sorry, I don't have experience of printing on vinyl so can't help with this one

  • @mengslzr
    @mengslzr Před rokem

    Can I use an acrylic retarder for these water soluble inks to make the drying time longer?

  • @nancymoore9965
    @nancymoore9965 Před rokem

    What if the water based inks won’t dry?

  • @BlueLineofthesky
    @BlueLineofthesky Před 4 měsíci

    Hi. I have a question: can Cranfield be used on textile like cotton? It is water resistant? Thank you!

    • @Handprinteduk
      @Handprinteduk  Před 11 dny

      It can but we've had varying results with it drying properly so I'd definitely do some tests first

    • @BlueLineofthesky
      @BlueLineofthesky Před 10 dny +1

      @@Handprinteduk thank you

  • @fraufuchs9555
    @fraufuchs9555 Před 2 lety

    How about water based intaglio inks? The only one I know is Akua, but is there an alternative?

    • @Handprinteduk
      @Handprinteduk  Před 2 lety

      Akua inks are soya-based which is slightly different. Intaglio inks need longer open times and they need to be a different consistency so oil-based (or soya-based) is the norm

  • @fahadabdelelahabdelazizalk1783

    I love you you are smart

  • @matt1343able
    @matt1343able Před rokem

    I have some question if you do not mind, can I use oil bace offset printer ink to painting a background of metal like copper or steel ?what do you recommend?is that permanent or not?Thanks

    • @Handprinteduk
      @Handprinteduk  Před rokem +1

      Hi Matt, This is not something that we have knowledge of I'm afraid.

    • @matt1343able
      @matt1343able Před rokem

      @@Handprinteduk thanks anyway

  • @Emma-my7xd
    @Emma-my7xd Před 2 lety

    What kind of papier I need for oil based ink? I have a problem to find it.

    • @Handprinteduk
      @Handprinteduk  Před 2 lety

      Printmaking paper will be fine for water based or oil based ink. You need something smooth and strong. If you are printing by hand then no thicker than 250gsm is recommended around 150gsm is ideal.

  • @SpeedomusicSM
    @SpeedomusicSM Před 2 lety

    What is the best ink for use on a cd cover , something made of card with a slight gloss and will be touched lots

    • @Handprinteduk
      @Handprinteduk  Před 2 lety +1

      I think you'd need an acrylic based ink but I haven't tried this myself so can't recommend anything for sure, sorry.

    • @SpeedomusicSM
      @SpeedomusicSM Před 2 lety

      @@Handprinteduk I'm gonna try enamel 😁

    • @Handprinteduk
      @Handprinteduk  Před 2 lety

      @@SpeedomusicSM Sounds good!

  • @romelmadrayart
    @romelmadrayart Před 2 lety

    Hi, would you say that the ink prints need to be sealed and if so with what?i also do mixed media drawings with graphite underneath the print, which is sorta transparent , would you say that the oil based ink on top would seal the drawing underneath?

    • @Handprinteduk
      @Handprinteduk  Před 2 lety

      You shouldn't need to seal the prints at all. It's difficult to predict how inks will work with other media underneath so I would suggest doing some experiments first.

    • @romelmadrayart
      @romelmadrayart Před 2 lety +1

      @@Handprinteduk thanks very much, for your response the videos are lovely, appreciate them

    • @Handprinteduk
      @Handprinteduk  Před 2 lety

      @@romelmadrayartThank you!

  • @declancursio2531
    @declancursio2531 Před 2 lety

    Sorry would Oil based Ink work on wood for screen printing ?

    • @Handprinteduk
      @Handprinteduk  Před 2 lety

      No, these are relief printing inks and aren't suitable for screen printing. You need screen printing inks like these: handprinted.co.uk/collections/inks-for-paper/products/speedball-acrylic-screen-printing-inks

    • @declancursio2531
      @declancursio2531 Před 2 lety

      @@Handprinteduk yes but would any Oil based acrylic ink work w screen printing?

    • @Handprinteduk
      @Handprinteduk  Před 2 lety

      @@declancursio2531 No, oil based inks aren't used for screen printing. Plastisols or solvent based inks can be used in specialised circumstances but usually water-based screen printing inks are best

  • @orion7741
    @orion7741 Před 3 lety

    Oil or Water based inks?? Neither! lol. if you want true archival quality ink the only option to go with is Rubber based inks. they are absolutely amazing!! and they are just so much better than any other inks out there.

    • @Handprinteduk
      @Handprinteduk  Před 3 lety +1

      Yes, rubber based inks are an option too. Not suitable for everyone though so it's nice to have other options

  • @walterhynson2898
    @walterhynson2898 Před 2 lety

    The water based has a blue hue and the oil based is black

    • @Handprinteduk
      @Handprinteduk  Před 2 lety

      Yes, these are two different inks and so the shades are slightly different

  • @grekori748
    @grekori748 Před 9 měsíci

    Hello Holly.. Can I thin the oil-based Ink with .. say Alcohol, Paint Thinner? or with whatever you suggest?

  • @muhammadsami9913
    @muhammadsami9913 Před 2 lety

    Ma'am may I have your Gmail ?