THE BEST WAY To Record Electronic Drums!
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I get so many emails and comments on a weekly basis asking how I record my electronic drums - so I decided to make an updated video on MY process of recording my drum covers.
**PLEASE NOTE: THIS METHOD IS FOR MIDI RECORDING AND NOT AUDIO RECORDING. I USE A VST PLUGIN THAT COMES AT AN EXTRA COST**
Can everyone please refrain from leaving negative comments on this video. I'm sure there's a million different ways to record electronic drums, but I'm simply showing you my method that works best for me.
In order to record your electronic drums properly, you will need:
- An electronic drum kit
- a USB cable
- A computer that is able to run a DAW
- A VST such as Superior Drummer, Addictive Drummer, Steven Slate etc.
Optional Extras:
- A USB audio interface
- A headphone extension cable
Easy steps:
1. Connect your module to the computer via USB Cable
2. Download your module driver from the manufacturer's website
3. Open up your DAW and launch your VST
4. Route the separate mic channels from the VST into the channels of your DAW
5. Map your electronic drums using the manufacturer preset or manually using the mapping module inside your VST.
6. Make sure you're getting the correct signals from each pad (i.e snare drum is showing in the snare drum channel of your VST etc etc)
7. Play your drums and record audio that doesn't sound shit!
Thank you for watching this video and I really hope you took something from it. My method is honestly so simple and it only takes around 20 minutes to set up properly. From then, you can simply use the project you've made as a template and you never need to do the set up process ever again!
Much Love,
Josh - Hudba
I've looked up countless tutorials for this and everyone always over explains or assumes the new drummer knows how to set it up? Idk, its super weird.
Thank you SO SO much man, wow.
THANKYOU! I'm glad you found this helpful! I didn't want to skip any of the info since I know that this world may be alien to some people! Have a great day!
If you want a stereo file to line up with your midi (fail safe to check your audio against the midi) use the L&R inputs from that audio interface. Set up a stereo track along with your midi track and arm it to record... I do it all the time (as a reference track) to make sure my midi matches with what the drummer plays. It also helps if there are ghostnotes triggering additional notes that are unwanted
Dude you have saved my life !! Thank you I’ve been looking for a way to record this as separates and wow thank you 🙏🏼 dude
You're more than welcome buddy! Glad you found it useful!
@@JoshCameron would this also record midi hits so you could tweak sounds/timing later?
Dude you're the man! so much insight. You deserve way more subs
Matt Lomas thanks Matt, really appreciate it!!
Dude! It took me almost an hour before I saw this miraculous video and got my edrums sounding. Thanks man!
Hi Josh! Really nice video and great drumming!!
I just have one question though, does the drumsounds you record in your DAW come from the sound bank on the kit or from the sounds in Superior Drummer?
And also how good/bad is the latency?
Thank you for sharing! Happy Drumming!!!
Super helpful info, thanks man!
Big thanks Josh - the only one I found that explains each step
Really glad this helped, Sean!
Thank you for your video. I’ve been wanting to record on CZcams for a long time. Your review was very helpful.
Thank you, Josh, much appreciated for your video tutorial.
Concise, on point, and informative. Thank you very much!
Thank you very much! Glad you enjoyed it!
Great video! Question after all the set up besides recording the drums does it record video of you playing? Is it a camera as well?
Well done mate! Great to see you making this stuff again. Cheers 😎
Thanks Mike! Good to be making this stuff again! Haha!
Great video! I love your “spin doctors” snare sound! I also setup a template like this and tried to import another song (logic Pro X) but could not make it work. Any videos would be appreciated. Also, can you record multiple takes on these tracks without hearing the original midi info?
Hi Josh. Will the USB to Midi triggering work with an Alesis Strike Pro SE? No driver download on their website. Also, if you wanted to record Audio from the module itself would you use the Main R/L outputs to an Audio Interface or use the Direct Outs? Thanks..Eric
This is great detailed information. I have a couple of questions. When you were gigging, did you use edrums or acoustic drums. If and when you used edrums live, did you use software or the module. Was latency an issue... again great info, I appreciate you posting this. I finally broke down and got a new computer this year so it may be time for me to start learning to use software. Hope you have a nice weekend
Hi Steve, thanks for the kind words! So I have only used my electronic drum kit live once or twice, and that was back when I had my jobeky set up (so years ago!)
The first time I used the module sounds, and the second time I brought a laptop out with me and used superior drummer. Latency wasn't an issue that time!
Ah that's great - let me know how you get on!
This is extremely helpful for me (a new CZcams drummer) thank you!
Holy cow this is awesome! Great video! I've got a cheap Alesis Turbo I use to practice while my acoustic is in Seattle. I've just started into midi and it is daunting! So much hardship just to record. I'm having a problem with the hat triggering the right sound with pedal operation. It looks like it isn't an issue in SD? Or should I be able to map any drum VST to make the right sound at the moment of operation (vice getting the right open or closed hi-hat sound in post)?
Hello and thanks for your comment! So midi mapping is normally required for most electronic drum kits (especially with the hi hat). If you search 'midi mapping in VST' or 'Hi Hat Triggering Superior Drummer', chances are you'll be greeted by many great videos explaining how to get the trigger response smoother. My good friend Mike Luke did a video on it, check out his channel!
hi there! i’m a beginning drummer, but having some issues with recording it (so this vid was a gift from heaven). I was wondering what DAW you use, and if the program audicity works? anyways, lots of support cause it was really helpful (:
Great video, very detailed! Much appreciated!
Thank you for the kind words!
thank you for going so in depth!!!
You're welcome dude :)
Thank you man! 🤘
Thank you, young man; most helpful 🙂
Nice sound! How do you record specifically? what daw are you working on?
You’re the best bro I was so confused thanks alot
Dude thank you so much I’ve been plugging my vdrums into my computer but no sound because I didn’t have driver. Literally saved me
Glad this helped!
Such a helpful video, however, do you know of any free VSTs that allow you to put each pad on its own track?
Hey Josh, a big reason I would want to set something up like this is to improve the drum sound quality not only in a recording, but as I play live (in my room using headphones). By using a VST and listening to the input through my computer, is this something I can feasibly use to have great sound on my drums while playing them? Or would latency be too much of an issue and this technology is only used in the recording itself? Thanks for the video!
Hi Lucas and thanks for your comment. The VST will 100% give you a better drum sound with minimal lag. Ever since I was introduced to the world of VST's, I stopped using the internal module sounds all together... even when I was just practicing.
It's one of those things that when you're introduced to it, your entire world changes!
Hey Josh, how come you selected multi output over stereo for superior drummer? Is it better? I believe you explained it in the video
Hi, new to the VST world, any suggestion on affordable VST would be great!. Thanks for the video very informative and specific
Hey Josh, is it necessary to manually add all those mixers channels? is there a better way to do it? in my SD3 preset there are SO many mixer channels.
Awesome video man !!! Super helpful. With recording e drums this way, does every hit mark as a midi note that can be quantized ?
Yeah you can easily quantise your playing if it’s midi :)
How would I record an electronic kit if I want to record with MIDI but also the kit's own sounds, separated by track, e.g., kick, snare, toms on their own channel. The Alesis Strike Pro SE has separate outputs for all of the various triggers. Thanks!
Is it possible to just record the sounds that are on the electric drum kit without the use of a VST? If so, how? Thanks for the video.
Hey Josh - thanks for the video! With your DAW/Superior Drummer setup, is there any noticeable latency when playing, between when you hit the drum and when you hear the sample?
No latency at all! Bearing in mind latency comes down to the module you’re using as well. Roland modules have the lowest latency on the market I believe 👍🏻
@@JoshCameron awesome, thank you Josh! :-)
Thank you!!!
Hi , great video. I have a Yamaha dtx400 kit and Focusrite 2i2. I ran a 1/8 inch to 1/4 cable from the DTX module to the input on the front of the 2i2 and then connected the 2i2 directly into my laptop and also changed my laptop sounds settings so the sound comes through my headphones which are connected to the headphone port on the 2i2. All seams to be working except I have no sound from my snare. All other pads are working. Do you know what the problem might be.
thank you!!
Finally, a video which shows what I was looking for. Have you tried another DAW? I am in a home studio project (and budget), so, would you please recommend a nice but simple MIDI interface? I have seen that the cheapest MIDI cable around there, doesn’t work very well. Thanks a lot.
Unfortunate I have only tried Logic Pro X since it’s the only DAW I actually know anything about! Sorry about that! A simple midi interface can be found in the focusrite Scarlett line up. Really well priced and work really well!
@@JoshCameron Thanks for your answer. I decided to buy the Roland MIDI Cable. Just a bit confusing to set it up, but it is working perfectly now. I use Waveform 11 for Mac, it is free. Everything works just fine! Thanks for your help.
About pluging your headphones to the audio interface, for the shure se215 do they need that extra amp or any average laptop could handle them?
Just picked up my first electric kit today. I'm going to use this process for recording but how am I able to listen to the song I want to play along to and record at the same time? Looking to do this for drum covers.
Recorded it this way, so it keeps the midi all in one line on the DAW? or do they also split? I tried this way by recording midi first, then multichannel the plugin and have a second bout of recording with the audio coming out un multi channels. but maybe keeping all midi info is better. . .
Love the instructions
Thank you !
I have trouble recording my Roland TD on Garageband to make it sound smooth. What is the best mixing for it?I use Focusritr too. I have a Yamaha MX20 and I use Garageband
Hi Josh. I just had the thought. Would the midi notes have different volumes if I was to record directly from the module? I just found the cymbals on the mt powerdrumkit program i used were a bit quiet. I started to think I was better off recording straight from the td50 module
You can always change the volume of each sound you’re triggering inside the VST software!
Can i use HP ElitePad 1000 G2 Tablet for VST ezdrummer and record?
This tablet needs usb Adapter, is there possible to be any lag because of HP usb adapter?
Nice video!
Great video! - i was wondering if it’s possible to connect an SPD-SX Roland sampling pad, to go with the recording of the Electric drum kit?
You can run an SPD as a separate audio or midi instrument in your DAW :D
Hi Josh, really useful video. Just interested to know what in ear monitors you use. Are they custom fit or universal? Thanks!
Hi Dan, thanks for your comment and I’m glad you found this video helpful. The in ear monitors I use are the Shure Se215’s. Super cheap, universal fit and great sound :)
@@JoshCameron Thanks for your reply! I own a pair of SE215’s, however I barely get any low end from them when monitoring my Roland TD30 - they just sound really tinny. Do you ever have this problem?
Does this method use the sounds that are with the Roland kit? Or does it use Logics kit sounds?
I really want to just use the actual sounds from my Roland device as they’re much better.
Great video - lots of details, thanks! I want to be able to record from my TD11 into GarageBand on an iPad; I’ve seen videos of people connecting straight in with the camera connector but when I try that I don’t get the drums triggering any sounds. Can you tell me how to do this? I like the mobility of recording on the iPad and mixing on my Mac afterwards.
Hi Scott, thank you for the kind words! Unfortunately I can't help you here; never done this myself! However my buddy over at 65 Drums should be able to help - check out his channel!
You looked way different on The Mighty Boosh! Been working out it seems👍
i have a roland td17kvx and i do video recordings through the roland go mixer pro x console with a camera from my smartphone. Is it worth the effort and the cost to make video recordings via sound card, pc midi? Or should I continue with the Roland go mixer pro x?
Is it better to record directly from the brain td27 via usb on the pc or to record with the sound card (M audio) by connecting the brain td27 with two jack cables (left, right) from the main out to the sound card line1, line 2 and from the sound card via usb to the pc? What do you suggest;
Nice! Thanks!
Thanks to you as well for watching!
Hi, thanks for a great video. I want to do drum covers from CZcams music videos, how can I set up the camera to record myself ? Also when the headphones are connected for the sound, will I be able to get sound out of the laptop in order to record the video ? Will I have issues in hearing myself play to keep the tempo in check ?
I'm unsure as to what you mean by this - if you're using headphones with your laptop to monitor what you're recording in the DAW, then everything should be just fine. In terms of filming yourself - just use your phone!
great video! i've been using logic pro and sd3 for drums covers, i dont have a scarlett but a usb dac and i wanted to know if you have a SD3 multi out preset in logic that sounds great that you could share! thanks!
Hey! Is there a way to monitor a Logic drum set VST by using an Alesis drum amp instead of monitoring what I'm playing through headphones? That would be cool if that's possible! I just want to be able to hear the VST sounds in the room using the amp instead of the module sounds of the Alesis kit. Thanks a lot! :)
You so right re using vst to get best sound
Hey great video had a question I have purchased is the drummer 2 And I’m using ripper to record I have it connected directly from my module the Roland TD 11 to my computer and I open easy drummer on ripper but for one crazy reason it’s not syncing the drums on the computer do you know how you when you play on the move as you’re playing the electric drums well they’re not moving hope you can help me with this
Do you have the latest module driver installed? That would be the first place I’d check
Any tips for people who have windows? this video was great but I'm not able to get Logic Pro. I've pretty much discovered that if you want to get into recording apple is the way to go lol
Respect👌🏾
Cheers mate!
I’ve got the pearl mimic and ad5 for cymbals so I’m happy with my sounds not having vst how can I record both of the brains basically mimic for drums ad5 for cymbals both have usb midi outs will I need two interfaces ? How you you run all that ?
Hi Josh can I do this same thing with Garage band and superior drummer instead of Logic Pro?
Hi Josh! I got a question, what Roland Module do you use?
Great video! Are you able to individually export each microphone as a separate audio file if sending for an online session? Like you would if recording an acoustic kit with mics through an interface. Thanks!
I'm pretty sure you could do that if you assigned each mic to it's own separate track inside of the recording software you choose to use!
@@JoshCameron thanks, how would I do that?
I'm using Logic and SD3, thanks again.
Question... so how would you play to a song using this method? Would you plug your phone into the module and go from Spotify? Where do headphones need to be plugged into? Getting my e kit in the mail by end of next week and am super excited.
Austin Mills Hey Austin! How are you? Great question.... so in order to play along to songs, I simply download the track and then drag and drop it into the DAW. It will automatically create a track for the song and then you can play along to it all within there. Hope that makes sense! What e-kit are you getting?🤪
Josh Cameron got a TD-17 module with SSD5 and then some mesh heads and triggers for my acoustic drums. Jobeky cymbals. What do you think?
@@austinmills4409 Sounds great! Would be good to hear how it all goes in terms of triggering! Let me know how you get on!
Josh, thanks for doing a video like this. Quick one: does a MIDI cable work the same as a USB cable? My interface has both options, so I'm just curious if there are any advantages to using either cable.
Hi Jay, thanks for the comment and sincerest apologies for the delay in responding to your question. I’ve messed with usb cables and midi cables before.... your best bet is a USB/printer cable if possible. It just seems to work straight away without no messing around and gives more consistent results (from my experiences at least!)
Midi cables give you better chance at synchronization considering you can accept MTC directly into the DAW and use a vst plugin I'm the software for the drums.
Great video. If you plug headphones into your laptop whilst playing, are you hearing the modified sounds through Superior Drummer or does it just come out as the original sounds from the module? Also, is there any noticeable latency if you do this? Thanks.
Andrew Dolan Hi Andrew, thanks for watching and taking the time to comment. So if you’re running your headphones into your laptop with your DAW open (or even Toontrack Solo for that matter), you’ll be hearing the Superior Drummer sounds, NOT the module sounds. You’re essentially plugging into the laptop to hear what your e drums are triggering inside the software. Something to remember is that your module becomes a glorified MIDI controller once you’re using superior drummer :D for me there was literally no notice of latency at all. For the last 3/4 years I’ve been using my e drums exclusively with Superior Drummer and I couldn’t even tell you what the internal module sounds sounded like anymore! I hope this helps :)
@@JoshCameron Excellent! I think I'll try to match your setup to minimise the latency as much as possible. Thanks so much!
@@JoshCameron What's the difference with plugging headphones through the interface rather than straight into a mac if they both output the sounds from the VST program?
Does anyone have any good spots to download free drumless MP3's ?
Thanks
Thanks dude
You deserve the same amount subs as cocomelon (120+ million)
Thank you!
Lol
Can you link a good midi mapping video? i'm using a yamaha e-drum kit with Reaper and steven slate 5.
Cheers! and great vid!
Hey Vincent! Yes of course. Here's a video that my good friend Mike Luke made a while back about perfectly mapping your hi-hat inside of superior drummer 2.
czcams.com/video/Da921Uv6ZYU/video.html
Normally, the only real mapping issues you would encounter are from the hi hat. Generally speaking, I've never had any real issues with the mapping for the drums and cymbals. The hi-hat is a common sticking point however since there's so many nuances in sound that need to be mapped perfectly to get the most authentic experience.
Hope this helps Vincent and thanks for watching!
Hey, just wondering how I can rename the track from 'Kick In' without it changing the first channel in the Logic mixer. Also, what are Small Room/0.4s Snare Chamber and Large Hall/3.9s Prince Hall One and can I get rid of them? Thanks
what usb audio interface do you use? I have a td12 and im looking for a low latency interface to trigger my VST.
I use the focusrite Scarlett 2i2... Really affordable and has never missed a beat!
Hello Josh,
Thanks for your video,
I am running a TD30 via USB into my macbook pro and using logic and superior drummer 3 and are having some latency issues, would this be to due with me having only 8gb of ram ? or does the TD30 need to go into a interface via MIDI cable and then have a thunderbolt cable in to the macbook ?
Thanks for any advise.
Hey! Thanks for the comment - sorry for the delay in getting back to you on this, ... did you manage to solve the issue?
I’m not sure why you’re experiencing latency issues to be honest.... from what you have described everything should be working just fine. 8GB of Ram should suffice!
Hello @Mollerice you have to download a driver called ASIO4ALL and when you plug the usb for your drums, go to the audio settings for the logic then set the audio input to asio and set the samples to 64
Hey Josh, great video! Question: I have a TD-9 module, and it doesn't have the usb-computer port that you showed on yours BUT it does have just a normal USB port on the top. Is that fine/the same thing?
Hi David thanks for leaving a comment. I wouldn't be too sure to be completely honest. I don't know whether you can send a signal through the normal USB port that's the only thing. Only way to truly know is to give it a try I guess!
Midi to USB should do the job for the TD9. On most forums people mention the Roland UM ONE MK2 when it comes to the TD9.
I can't verify this as I don't have it yet, mine should come in tomorrow.
What would you recommend if a drum kit didn’t have a usb outlet?
Thanks this is very helpful! What hi hat are you using and do you like it?
I am using the VH-13 and I LOVE IT! Possibly the best e hi-hat out there :D
Recording all to midi channel 10 or each part to separate midi channels? Thx.
hey josh thank u for the video so helpful , I have Mac n I have logic also but I don't have VST can u suggest me any free VST
Hi Pratap, thanks for the kind words. Unfortunately I don't know of any completely free VST's for drums, sorry!
I need help.
I have 2 e-drums : millenium mps 150 and 750 but i cant find on the web where to download the driver as you did with yout roland tdk30
Hey Josh! this is probably a stupid question but here it goes. When recording a cover, can I simply play a song using Spotify onto the DAW which will then record it?
Hi James, thanks for your comment and for watching this vid! You'd need to download the track first and then import into your DAW - best way to do it really is via a CZcams to Mp3 conversion website and just pull it off CZcams - hope this helps!
I’m stuck for some reason. I have the USB AB cable to connected to my module and my computer, I’m pretty sure I have my module driver downloaded (Alesis is weird), and I’m using audacity. I can get any audio from my module to playback on my computer
money's fairly tight for me, so I can't really justify buying a VST right now, but am trying to record some tracks for a friend.. will this method (minus the VST) work for me? I can deal for now at least with the plastic-y roland kits. cheers for the video
It depends on the module you have as to whether you can route the drums separately
Can I use my module's sounds through the recorded midi track?
Are the drumtec heads any better than the stock heads?
Got a question, at the end of the video it shows a single track reflecting the entire drumkit, can you not have each drum separate?
Thank you for the video. What i understand is that we can get various drum sounds from Superior Drums. How can we get the sounds of the inbuilt drum kits of the actual module of E Drums in our DAW as multi tracks?
Hi there, thank you for your comment! I'm not actually too sure how you do that one. It would depend on the number of outputs you have on the back of the module I believe!
This can be tricky without individual outputs, but not impossible!... What you can do is record the MIDI into your DAW and then playback each drum track in solo and simultaneously record the drum module audio output - for example, record a performance so that you have it in MIDI then create a stereo audio input... Solo your first drum track in your DAW, i.e the kick. When you play this kick, you can route it to play back on your drum module, like you would a synthesizer sound module - then just record the module output in real time and repeat for each drum/cymbal!
I too would like to record the midi info but hear my module's sounds. So far demonic sweater's example of recording both midi and audio at the same time is as close as I've seen. But I wonder if importing samples from module to laptop is going to be the ultimate answer.
Love these kinds of videos. Would this be possible to do with a Scarlett Solo? Not a 2i2 that you have.
i was wondering the same dude.. @joshcameron
@wordbearer did you find it out bro?
Hey! Yes It would! The solo should work absolutely fine :)
Mine is going different right about where you reset the track I don’t have that. And then I found au in the plug ins but then it’s different again at the toon part mine only has Apple
In my Roland kit module the drums sound different from the drumkit i hit on pc. What gives? I followed your instructions
Say I wanted to record myself playing on my E kit over a Foo Fighters song. How do I set it up so my program records everything and not just what im playing on the kit?
Hi Josh, the best way to do this would be to load the Foo Fighters song inside your DAW and then play along to it as your drum track is recording. Otherwise you'd have to record as Audio instead of MIDI and play the song with the AUX input on the module and you won't get great results that way.
Hope this helps!
for some reason i cant find a module for my kit the TD-1DMK any suggestions
I have a td-11 and I plug it into the laptop via USB and I'm using ableton. I don't currently have a vst but even just trying to play with the modual sounds the latency and misfire is insane. It's like it's lagging badly and doesn't pick up all the notes I play. Could it be an improper driver? I cannot figure it out!
Same but garage band I gave up years ago and am trying to come back to it and it’s STILL a headache 😂
I have a DD400+ drum module would that work? I cant find how to download so it would pick up the signal like you did with the Roland or do I not need to download anything other than a DAW. Thanks
Hey Daniel , thanks for your comment and sincerest apologies for the delay in responding to your question.... unfortunately I wouldn’t be able to help there. The manufacturers website should have all available drivers listed under “updates and drivers” however the DD400+ module isn’t from one of the bigger brands so I wouldn’t be sure how it would work for that one. Sorry about that!
Thank you for your response, that’s okay no worries 😌
I don't have the usb thing in my drums so I can directly plug it into my computer, I am getting sound a signal while going with an tele- cabel ( telecommunication cable) don't know what it's called in english. My problem is that everythings seem fine but it is recording everything instead of just the drums, so when i play the drums the guitar is in the same track for example.
Hey Josh, thanks a lot for the explanation. Just a question: I'm running a USB cable from the drum module to the computer. I also need to run a USB cable from computer to audio interface in order to monitor the sound coming from the interface, right?
Yeah you will need to connect the interface to the computer to monitor audio. You won't need to connect it to the drum module itself however! Hope this clears it up for you :)
Hey mate great video! I'm having some trouble with the timing of the drums, so i've recorded a video of myself playing, and obviously recorded the drums on the DAW. It's all synced up perfectly at the start, but after a couple of minutes, the drums are out of time with the video. Sometimes to early sometimes to late, i tried just recording with a song and no video, the same happens. At the start i always record me hitting the snare 4 times to sync up, and after 5 minutes or so i do it again at the end to check, and the drums are out of times, sometimes early, sometimes to late. Any help mate?
Okay this could be a framerate issue. In your video editor, make sure the project file is set to the same frame rate as you recorded the video in. For example, if you recorded the video at 1080p 25fps and the project is 1080p 30fps then your audio will go out of sync because the clip has been retimed slightly. I hope this makes sense!
@@JoshCameron But he said the timing doesnt have anything to do with the video... He recorded with the song and it still gets out of sync with the song....
@Yenko Please do
Jack, this is happening to me with audio. I can just carefully tap to the downbeat through 2 minutes of a tune, and the beat will waver on playback. Sometimes pushing, sometimes lagging, like it's a clock sync issue. Did you find a solution?
cant seem to find my kits driver.. got a millenium MPS 750-x
Badda$$! Can you share a list of the equipment you used?
Of course:
Drum Kit = Drum Tec Diabolo Series Silver Sparkle
Module = Roland TD30
In ear monitors = Shure SE215’s
USB midi interface = Focusrite Scarlett 2i2