Best of Shoah - Lanzmann befragt polnische Bauern in Grabow
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- čas přidán 26. 01. 2010
- "Shoah ist ein langer, ein intensiver Film. Einige besonders schmerzvolle Interviewparts hat Lanzmann nicht abgebrochen, sondern später in voller Länge montiert." Brandenburgische Landeszentrale für politische Bildung Brandenburg.
Ich weise mal auf einen Übersertzungsfehler hin. Hier wird eine Passage einer polnischen Frau mit sinngemäß "Jüdische Frauen waren reich, die Polen MUSSTEN für sie ARBEITEN" übersetzt, die aber im Original übersetzt lauten müsste "Jüdische Frauen waren reich, SIE mussten NICHT arbeiten". Es lohnt sich manchmal zweisprachig erzogen worden zu sein ;-)
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Ja da hast Du vollkommen Recht , vermeintlich kleine Übersetzunsfehler können schlimme Folgen haben.
"Best of Shoah" is probably not the most appropriate title...
You have a point!
How about "There is no business like Shoah business"??
True. This title is pure foolish
Danke für den Beitrag. Ein sehr interessanter Ausschnitt des Films.
Ich empfehle dir, den Titel zu ändern.
"Best of Shoah" klingt, als ginge es hierbei um Privataufnahmen eines SS-Mannes.
This is the weekest part of Shoah. Baiting Polish villagers just out of nastiness on Lanzmann's part.
He is not baiting. He is probing.
@@semsemeini7905 He could have probed German and Austrian civilians much more.
Not to speak of Hungarians, Ukrainians, Balts... I know he had no access to those countries then, but he could still have mentioned this. Shoah focuses particularly on Poles, probably because Poland was the only one that allowed him to film (and where Auschwitz, Treblinka and Sobibor are located).
In the context of history, Shoah makes it seem that Poles were much more guilty than others, Germans and Austrians included!
@@martingianelli7552 you just have to let people believe that Poles were worse. You know that it is not true and that they are wrong. I really think that there was a lot of antisemitism in many Eastern European countries where many Jews lived. But some people were courageous and helped the Jews. I don't think Poles were better or worse. But I might be wrong.
@@torstensandvei4973 Poles were the Victims. No other country suffered more during WW2
@@mattk.7759 doesnt change the fact that there was wide spreak antisemitism in the rural areas and lots of collaborators. Stop acting like countries are completely innocent like babys.
Der Titel ist sehr schlecht gewählt!!!
Die Französische Übersetzung ist einfach eine Katastrophe und mit Absicht nicht alles wurde hier übersetzt zb.am Ende über Sozialismus usw. sagt die Frau " ich hab keine Ahnung weil ich mich an sowas nicht interessiere" und nicht " das ist mir egal "
Today is May 29th/Friday, 2020- If anyone went to foreign countries and asked questions regarding their opinions of the people in their neighboring countries, you would still get answers like these. From day one people have always looked down on others. It is the intention and the reason for asking that really matters, not what the actual opinions are. As a caveman once said- "Opinions are like assh*les, everyone has one".
Ce sont les faits qui comptent le plus.
Wie bitte ? " Best of Shoah " DenTitel finde ich absolut nicht gelungen in diesem Zusammenhang um es noch milde auszudrücken,das ist keine Hitparade oder Best of Show !! Angebrachter wäre " ganz besondere Auszüge aus Shoah " oder ähnliches....
What do the ornamentics on the door in the 00:13 question mean? Ever since I watched that movie, I have been trying to find out any info on that on the internet but never found anything. Anybody Jewish here who could explain this to me? Thank you in advance!
@Gienek Max No patrz, jak zgadłeś, kim jestem. A nie jestem. Znasz odpowiedź, czy napisałeś, by się dowartościować?
@Gienek Max Ale ja się nie gniewam i jestem bardzo spokojny. Poza tym, jakbym wiedział, to bym się przecież nie pytał. Często na forach pod moim imieniem i nazwiskiem odzywają się naziole, którzy każą mi wyp... do Izraela, więc z góry kajam się za nadmierną ostrożność. A imion większość w tym kraju (i nie tylko) jest żydowska, tyle że w formach zaadaptowanych przez rodzime języki z adaptacji z hebrajskiego na łacinę.
Mesusas Jews put on the door.
@Achim Wurst Idiot. Antisemite.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mezuzah
Can I find Shoah in English anywhere please ?
Andrew Seddon its a fake movie
Did you already find it because im also looking for it
@@erikv5 its everywhere on youtube
Shoah Four Sisters
Where was that camp that was nuked including 20000 prisoners by the Germans end of october 1944 with a small atomic test bomb like Judge Jackson told in Nuremberg 1947?
I think it was in antarctica
no north of Wilamowice@@swagkachu3784
C'est quoi ces questions,tu sens la bienveillance et le professionnalisme hein.
czcams.com/video/w_-9BDHppQQ/video.html Just watch the same Lanzmann interview with a Polish railman, eyewitness working next door to Sobibór camp through the entire year of its existence. Lanzmann released it a day before he died. Last 1/2 hour the most interesting.
sehr sparsame untertitelung, leider, --- aber tolles interview!
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I'm Polish and I have no idea why would anyone be upset about these interviews, I see nothing untruthful nor controversial here. It's just like the lady at the end says, the lives of ordinary people improved enormously after WW2 compared to pre WW2 period. The poor basically associate the period when there were still Jews in Poland with poverty. So if you ask them if they miss the jews, in the mind of simple person it's like asking if you miss poverty, what is so upsetting about this? I think what you are all missing is that majority of people in Poland were happy with the new socialist government, this Polish anti-communist sentiment began much later, meanwhile modern Polish propaganda claims Poles always opposed soviet influence and idolized pre-WW2 Poland, far from truth, the poverty was so big that hunger was a real issue for many
What you say do much sense. My grandmother ALWAYS remenber as the life of grandsylibes is very easy today . Never jews lived in outback of Brazil and the lives of ordinary people improved enormously. The state of Parana there are imigrants of the Galicia. They leaved your country because there was very poor people and hungry was actual.
you think this simple village people are rosponsible and could kill this people?.
the blood is on german hands thats the only truth. and nothing can change it
gregory beck the SS played the major role but half europe took part of deportations and mass killings. Polish,ukrainian,italian,austrian,croatian,ungarian.. and the question should be why do all these people had such a problem with jewish people and their Religon?
There were progroms in Poland long after WWII was over and no Germans present. That is another truth.
There isn't smoke without fire......... What were the accusations against those jewish people that were burnt on those progroms throughout EUROPE during the last 400 years??
Stop with this "eternal innocence and victimisation" of the jews.... Time to come back to the Truth.
What about israel nowadays? Invading the surrounding countries , building the ""greater israel", financing the immigrations of those migrants to destroy europe...
But yet again, they are innocent, yeah?
What about those african true Hebrews incarcerated into the prison they build in the desert of Jerricho?
Soon or later, the Truth will bite you all back.......
And that justifies mass murder? OMg
Und warum bitte reden die französisch? Wenn es angeblich Polen sind?
bist du gegen Demokratie ? :-o
German in Konzentrationslager don't need translators, every document, every order is written i Greman. 27.01.2023 78th anniversary of freeing Das Konzentrationslager Auschwitz.
Wyzysk trwa do chwili obecnej, włącznie z rozbiorem Polski przez rosje i niemcy, jak i przygotowaniem Polski pod judeopolonie.
Aujourd’hui rien n’a changé malheureusement dans ces pays de merde🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮
En 1946 il y a eu un pogrom en Pologne à la suite d'un mensonge sur la responsabilité d'un juif dans une affaire. En 1946 ! Les polonais ont toujours été extrêmement anti sémites. Aujourd'hui je ne sait pas si cela a évolué. La bêtise a la vie dure.
STOP lying, STOP defamation of Poles. The event you are referring to was perpetrated and orchestrated by secret police, the infamous NKVD.
@@Lechoslaw8546 pogrom kielce 1946
@@jacquespote8910 This is what I said. Kielce "pogrom" was a all-out provocation made by the Moscow NKVD with collaboration of its local branches inside occupied socialist Poland. As a result nine innocent Poles were sentenced to death and killed to shut their mouth. If you speak French, then watch same Lanzmann interview with a railman from Sobibór, who worked next door to the camp, it'll give you a balanced view of Poles and Jews during ww2.--- czcams.com/video/w_-9BDHppQQ/video.html
@@Lechoslaw8546 Vous ne voulez pas admettre la vérité alors vous parlez de complotisme. C'est classique. czcams.com/video/lkRDAbcwJoI/video.html
@@jacquespote8910 How could they have "always" been extremely Antisemitismus, when the reason there were so many jews in Poland was, they were fleeing antisemitism and persecution in the rest of of europe? There definitely was antisemitism, but before the war Poles and jews were living peacefully together, despite problems. During the war antisemitism was promoted by the germans with some success amongst the peasants while they were murdering the polish intelligentsia.