Spencer reviewed by Mark Kermode
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- Mark Kermode reviews Spencer. Set over three days at Christmas, Princess Diana struggles against the restraints and expectations of the public, the press and the Royal Family.
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The cinematography was out of this world. The fact they shot it on film was a huge part of that.
Absolutely
As a DP (called DOP in the UK) myself, the idea of shooting film is highly overrated. Cameras these days, people can't tell the difference and digital is a fraction of the price and a million times more convenient. A film camera 'barely' has more color depth, it's neck and neck but it sees green better... but the dynamic range of film is only around 11.5 stops at the most. The Sony Venice, to me, more accurately captures the film feel, and the Alexa is still great... the RED Raptor is amazing... those range to around 15.5-16 stops of dynamic range. (If people don't know what that is, it's the range of dark to light a camera can see... the easiest example is someone standing in front of a window; a film camera, you have to expose for the talent in front of the window which means lighting them enough to stand out but you still basically have to choose to make them a silhouette and see through the window... or, expose for them and blow-out the window where it's super bright. With more dynamic range, you can have both; the talent properly exposed 'and' still see the background.)
The cinematography in this is amazing, I feel, for vastly different reasons... the lens selection, the depth of field, the color grade. I'm paused on the dinner scene and it looks like they're on an 85mm lens for her CU with even lighting... nothing in the foreground (a dirty frame) while the other characters all have candles, etc., dirtying the frame, which could be a call from the Art Department and/or the Director... or DP. And, you have the nice even 'orange' wash to this... vs. the cold intro scenes or the interiors with the marble and everything is in focus, most likely a 28mm lens with a higher T/F stop to make everything a wall of focus.
A lot goes into cinematography... but, with all due respect, it's not as simple as just saying it's film over digital.
@@ronineditor9920 Er… OK 👌🏻 bit of an over the top comment, although I appreciate the enthusiasm.
I’ve worked in photography all my life. There’s a aesthetic to film that digital can’t replicate, dynamic range isn’t a factor in my view.
I’m aware of the pros and cons of film versus digital, but it’s a redundant conversation in 2022. I said the cinematography is amazing, and the fact they shot it all on film is a huge part of that. It’s just the truth.
The film looked like an early 2000s episode of midsummer murders, looked poorly done
@@somethingelse516 I think the interiors looked great but the exteriors were so blown-out for some reason. And I think it the grain seems like it was added digitally because I've never seen that amount of grain on film, it got distracting.
Absolutely beautiful film. Stunning cinematography, gorgeous soundtrack, terrific directing and a captivating, mesmerising and unforgettable performance from Kristen Stewart. I don’t see awards as a guide to what’s good or ‘best’, but I truly hope Spencer gets recognised.
This should be her Oscar
@@STMARTIN009 Sadly, it wasn't. She is on track for one.
Kristen's performance was wonderful. It really makes me sad that this movie didn't get any Oscar nominations other than best actress. Photography and soundtrack were perfect.
Costume design could’ve easily gotten nominated too.
@@Brandon-rb4sm I have been seeing this repeatedly. Jacqueline Durran was robbed from an Oscar nomination.
"Like a string quartet goes to hell"
What a phrase!
They do say that the devil has all the best tunes.
love it when Mark loves a film and isn't just suffering, though his rants are still wonderful
Agreed. His 'Sex and the City 2' rant is glorious!
I have watched that rant many times and it still makes me smile.
His rant on entourage still rings in my ears
also watch Doolittle rant. Gold.
@@stephenkissane4268 I've listened to that rant more times than I can count. It's just perfect.
Love that Stewart continues proving everyone wrong. Never expected her and Pattinson to have built the carreers that they have after the dead end that the Twilight Series should have been.
Greatest comebacks in history
@@megamoviez Yep. Pity about that other guy. 🤭
@@jorgedacunha2676 well in other films he’s proven it wasn’t the writing that made his performances wooden..
This is literally the only tolerable movie she's been in.
@@Michael-ml5vk Panic Room? Personal Shopper?
Ah Greenwood does the score. That's it for me, I'm sold.
I liked Mark imitating the creaking strings!
Me too man, Another there will be blood perhaps musically?
No shit ! His score to phantom thread and there will be blood restored my faith in the artform. At this point though I’ll take anything other than Zimmers hammering synths
For me the music was the best part! It’s
Amazing in the cinema too, the way the strings are panned in that “free form jazz” section really gets under your skin and really shows the headspace Dianna is in.
There’s also fantastic uses of silence too
This movie is brilliant, seriously had me in awe the whole time from the camera work, directing, acting, and score. What a film!
Haha just came out the film to hear someone say it was one of the most boring films they’ve seen 😂
@@TheRedmurk0 They weren’t wrong. Acting, set, locations music, costume all brilliant. Storyline non existent, characters 1 dimensional, storyline non existent. Dull as dishwater
@@TheRedmurk0 I was bored by the actors, but not by the movie itself. The movie had some gorgeous cinematography, the score was lovely, the costumes were spot on, but... Diana was somehow exactly the same person as Bella: uncomfortable, bored, depressed, with a breathy whisper of a voice. Imagine if Bella had no Edward, no Jacob. Imagine that movie. That would be this movie.
I agree. If you liked this one check out the 2015 movie The Lobster starting Colin Farrell.The 2 films are similar in the idea of both central characters escaping their society/prison(s)
The music was awful, there was too much of it.
I am so excited about Jonny's score
Ive only seen clips but thought Kirsten Stewart was amazing. She moved and spoke just like Di.
Fellow Chilean here, so obviously I'm so happy for Pablo and his success, he's an amazing director (highly recommend his Chilean movies). Can't wait to see this.
YES! I first noticed him because of NO. So glad he continues to make great movies
Tony Manero was amazing.
It's a beautiful movie, but it must be viewed with the understanding that it is FICTIONAL. This is NOT Diana. Kristen is still playing some version of Bella in this movie, and Diana wasn't so awful as to not even smile for the cameras. She was more gracious and demure than this film makes her out to be.
Everyone will talk about Stewart’s performance (deservedly so), but everything else is also worthy of praise, especially Jonny Greenwood’s score (which got snubbed, but at least he got it for Power of the Dog)
He got hella snubbed, could’ve easily have been nominated for both, which the academy did last year with Ross and Reznor
@@Brandon-rb4sm And they still won for Soul, I completely forgot about that
The music ruined it, there was too much of it
Nice to see Mark back in the studio
I just saw this in the cinema this afternoon and was excited to watch Mark's review when I saw it.
The film totally took me by surprise also. Loved it. And Kristen Stewart is incredible. Hope she gets an oscar.
I saw Oscar-worthy stuff in this film, but none of it was the acting. Stewart herself is one-note. I'm sorry that I keep seeing the same disgusted, anxious, depressed person in every character she plays. I never saw Diana as so weak or so spoiled before watching this film. If someone watched this movie without knowing anything about Diana, it would be easy to start wondering where Edward and Jacob went.
@@maxcovfefe the Oscar worthy stuff is cinematography, the screenplay, costume design, make up and probably direction. People are saying a lot about Kirsten Stewart and she looks radiant and gorgeous in this movie. And she does impress, a lot. But her acting is one note mostly. Not that I am saying its bad but it was not a versatile performance. And if she comes across so well its probably of her styling and clothes.
But the direction is superb. Stewart is playing her role but all credit to the director who really makes or balances her story or experience with the reality faced by the Royal family and their staff. So while Diana has all the expressions and opinions the better dialogues and reality is expressed by the supporting actors. Great direction indeed. It requires nuance to be able to balance the different perspectives and present them so well. A 7.5 for me.
As far Stewart is concerned well she looks very pretty. But I think Jessica Chastain has the lead over her as far as best actress. But yes for all the reasons this maybe the most memorable role of Stewart's career. And sometimes most memorable roles do not get you an Oscar. I mean Leonardo DiCaprio did not win for Titanic, Sharon Stone did not win for Basic Instinct. The point I am making is its not only how you act but also the impression you leave on the viewer's mind that is as important. A 7.5 from me.
@@brajeshsingh2391 Maybe you can recommend something for me to watch. I want to see Kristen Stewart do some comedy. Not the straight man, but I wanna see her play the one with the jokes. I want to see if she has any comedic timing. I think comedy is harder than drama by miles. A good test is to see if dramatic actors can handle being goofy.
I'm just a tiny bit annoyed that Diana's most iconic trademark, her BLUE eyes were green in this movie. I wish they'd done a little movie magic to give her blue eyes. That's not Kristen's fault, just a minor critique. Diana had a blue sapphire wedding ring to match her eyes. It's a little thing that took me out of the story a few times. Kristen has great eyes, so it woulda been cool to see her with blue eyes just for Diana.
I'm less forgiving with this film because I know Diana for much more than mumbling, hallucinating, and going nuts in front of her kids. She was stalked by the paparazzi, so Diana cleverly began going where no one wanted to go, to Africa's most AIDS plagued regions. She forced the media who were following her to cover subjects that didn't have enough awareness at the time. She had cheap tabloids AND the most high end fashion mags alike talking about the AIDS epidemic. She forced them to look at real taboo topics in a humanitarian way. THAT'S the Diana I remember. She didn't cringe for the cameras; she USED them for her own humanitarian causes.
I wish they'd spent less time on fake psycho BS and just a little more time showing her organizing the kinds of things she actually did IRL.
Because of that, "dark fairytale" or not, out of a possible 10, I give Spencer a 3.5 for taking an already fascinating person and turning her into painfully boring and unstable lunatic.
I almost pass on this movie, but just to hear Larrain and Greenwood attached, makes me me impossible to miss it.. Thanx, Mr. Kermode!!!
Excellent assessment of this movie. One the few trailers that pull you in.With Kristen Stewart Oscar level to project the inner soul of Diana were most just project the surface and the salacious side and person whom ever is being portrayed as a characture not a true representative of the person.The essence of Diana is preserved .Awesome Video 🙂
This movie reminds me of the movie The Lobster. The idea of conformity within a group. Princess Di is the rebel trying to escape.Colin Farrel was the rebel that was trying to break free from the prison of conformity in the movie The Lobster.
As of thus far, my favourite of this year... and thats unbelievably surprising to me...
To be honest, for me, they should leave that poor womans legacy alone. Every few years her sons have to avoid rubbish like this. Let it go.
They are mean. I don't think they will leave her, especially since her story and her death are still as mysterious as Michael Jackson, and because of her popularity and people's interest in everything new about her, I don't think they will let her rest in her peace because she brings them money
Even her children are taking advantage of her fame now
Poor woman 💔
They will leave Diana alone when Meghan becomes more interesting.
yeah, leave the lads alone, and there father and uncle andrew are fine chums, not sure why people badmouth them
No ‘exorcist’ mention this week 👏 Your descriptions are 😘 ‘a string quartet gone to hell’ fantastic Mr K
The power of christ compels you
Brilliant drama. Really surprised by how good it was.
I knew practically nothing about the film going in, except it being about Diana, and I too had the feeling I had gone to the wrong film the first two minutes. It's so refreshing seeing a film that you know nothing about and just being swept away by it. Great acting, directing, cinematography and set design and clothes design as well!
Watched it last night and I too thought I was maybe watching the wrong movie for the first few minutes!
Just saw it yesterday and I was surprised. It reminded me of the 2015 film The Lobster staring Colin Farrell.
I was expecting more of a realistic story about what actually happened during Christmas 1991 with some liberties with artistic license but this movie to left field.This movie has Great directing, cinematography,
,screenplay,and most importantly an outstanding performance by Kristen Stewart. This should be her Oscar.
I'm writing about greenwood's score in a uni music essay - just wanted to say thank you Mark for the fantastic quote "like a string quartet goes to hell" - I will be quoting you for sure
Greenwood’s score for the film Spencer, to me, felt like a fusion of the moody jazz of Mike Figgis with the minimal baroque style from Michael Nyman but all the while remaining a uniquely Greenwood score.
Im really looking forward to seeing this. Im a big KSTU fan.
As much as I love the figure of Princess Diana, I wish she was left alone. Especially her "relationship with food", if she was still alive today I bet she wouldn't feel very good about all these meticulous recreations of what was her own personal torment. Also, I find it very hypocritical that people are so sympathetic to Princess Diana's struggles with eating disorder, but not particularly so towards Sarah Ferguson, who also struggled but did not remain slim and gorgeous, so...
I think what makes Diana so powerful in the eyes of the public is that she was normal, and to be normal is to struggle and to have issues. Her "relationship with food" was bulimia, let's call it what it was instead of trying to dress it up all cute, and it's something that real people struggle with. So is depression, anxiety, and all the other things Diana battled with. To see someone who's supposed to be "royal" and supposedly above all that struggle with things that a lot of normal people also struggle with is not something to be ashamed of. So much of it had to be in private when she was alive, because she was forced to keep quiet to maintain the royal image, and you ask that people do the same now that it's all out in the open anyways? How can we treat people with eating disorders and mental illnesses if we're too afraid to show real people dealing with it in the media? I think it gives people who suffer through the same stuff strength to fight through it when they can see Diana as she was, not as she had to pretend to be in front of cameras.
Well, this topic is much broader than just Diana. It’s the pretty privilege, projection, romanticization and deifying of a woman in the public’s line of site that you have an issue with. Diana had the halo effect because she was conventionally beautiful and her problems and pain added an allure and victim hood...similar to Marilyn Monroe. Comparatively she was just loved and known more to many with similar issues, so she had preferential treatment
I’m pretty sure she was aware of her special treatment and she had a strong symbiotic relationship with the press. As someone with an eating disorder, I can sympathize with her, but also recognize she was a high functioning and privileged person despite her issue. Her Bulimia prevented her from going to a dangerously low bmi and she could still make appearances and do her job. Mental illness quickly gets sneered at when it isn’t as pretty and ‘beautifully’ tragic as people would assume. Losing teeth from bulimia or hair and having recovery bangs isn’t as ideal to onlookers 🙄
Diana wanted to appear as a glamorous woman-she had friends in the press who were photographers that were told of her whereabouts by her or someone on her team to get good shots of her and it grew into a monster from there. She needed the public’s love and validation and if she could be alive right now in her 60s she’d probably relish in these sweet love letter like films made making her look perfect yet relatable.
But we all know these films are made because of the tragic case of her death...people still mourn her and with sadness comes transformative art.
The eating disorder was the only thing that felt like a real human response to the absurdity of her marriage and responsibility. Idk Maybe that’s just my way of seeing it as I’ve had a long history of dealing with stress and isolation through binge-purging and restriction.
@@zthetajulietta8184 I don't really agree, sorry. I think what people liked about her as "The People's Princess" and what people connected with in her full unabridged story that was revealed later on are from two different points in time and shouldn't be judged together. Diana was no saint, she's not painted as one in this film, and generally the opinion of her these days is more nuanced than I think you're making it out to be. "Pretty privilege" as a term double edged sword, because while I can see where you're coming from it also comes off a bit insensitive to suggest pretty people, popular people, or rich people can't be unhappy or go through tough times mentally or physically or shouldn't be given as much of a platform to speak about it or as much sympathy for it because they have some advantage other people don't. Mental illness and disorders are universal and should be treated as such, I don't see why we need to attack the people going through them or the people sympathizing or finding strength or inspiration through famous people to shed light on the fact that other people need sympathy or attention too. You shouldn't build one group up by tearing the other down.
@@Tribrachidiumheraldicum I don’t know where I imply beautiful people don’t go through the trials and tribulations of life, but please point it out so I may rescind it. Life is hard, yes-there are varying levels of difficulty and many experience it harshly, but me saying she has ‘privilege’ doesn’t imply she had it completely easy. A privilege is simply being granted some bias or an island of reprieve while still dealing with life’s hardships.
Diana has her melt downs, self harmed, purged, has her own affairs and agreements with the press. What I’m saying is that despite that public knowledge people will be more willing to ignore or justify her actions because they admire her so much by extension of her beauty and good public reputation. Me saying the public is more lenient towards her isn’t suggesting she had a cake walk in her inner life...she still went through her own isolation and pain, rejection and that’s valid.
I was just agreeing with the sentiment of the op that other women that experience similar difficulties as diana, don’t get the same sympathy.
@@Tribrachidiumheraldicum I'm not sure where I "dress up" anyone's issues as "cute". And what I don't agree with is the singling out Diana as "normal" opposed to everyone else. There were "normal" people in the Royal family before Diana, at the same time and after Diana. That is probably not a popular thing to say, but Camilla Parker Bowles is just as "normal".
What I also don't agree with is that Diana's depression, anxiety and bulimia was mostly private when she was alive - that is simply not true, if you watch many documentaries made at the time when she was still alive, it was brought out in the open in real time, not a recent discovery.
The hypocrisy of the media trying to "give voice" to people struggling from eating disorders is that movies and shows are still made mostly about people, whose disorders kept them on the skinny side, which is what society still is highly approving of no matter how the person got there - that's the real sinister side of it. When men suddenly loose a lot of weight people are worried about their health, in the first pandemic lockdown in 2020 I personally lost about 15 kg due to stress without even realizing it myself and no one asked me if I had health issues (spoiler alert: yes, I do now).
You have also ignored my comment about Diana's sister-in-law Sarah Ferguson, who was openly mocked in press for gaining weight during pregnancy and called ugly names and who stepped up for her? Even today it is not something that is talked about or widely considered horrendous and very much not normal.
'Spencer' now sounds like 'Shiva Baby', and I can't wait to watch it.
Shot on 35mm and 16mm film. Explains why it looks "right".
I always preferred Cheryl Cole as the ‘ People’s Princess ‘ but I’m happy to give this a chance
😂
Hoped this was going to be a film about Frank Spencer
I thought it would be a movie based on the Robert Parker detective books en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spenser_(character). Must be very hard, though, to depict a woman this dumb. Couldn't finish high school. Wrote to tabloids all the time because that was her intellectual level.
I have never cared about Princess Diana; I grew up hearing my older family members gush over her and to this day don't understand why, and have long been weirded out by how giddy and romantic Americans continue to be about a foreign monarchy. Yet that's part of the reason I was so captivated and impressed with this film. Finally, I get to explore the modern royals through a humane, non-sensationalized lens.
Great review! Excited to see it. Interesting to hear that the film has a theme of hauntology. I wonder if Mark has researched the concept.
I was not blow away by this movie. I thought it over blown and it made poor Diana seem a bit nutty but like overly done nutty.
Anyone else notice the continuity gaff with her Porsche? It starts as a G reg then changes to a J reg after she goes into the cafe for directions.
I saw the trailer and thought "That looks awful" but after this review I want to see it,
Kristen blew me away even though I couldn't understand half of what she said. But this surreal piece about royalty could have been directed by Bunuel.
Could have been directed by Bunuel, you know what, this is a very interesting point
damn, i was hoping this was on a par with perfect blue
Brilliant analysis! The coalition of "weaponization" food and Diana's identity...yes!
Watched it last night. Glad I ent out my way to find it. I enjoyed it like I enjoyed The Shining.
The escapist 80s rock en roll ost ending threw me off abit and the saying she needed to m......... . That line to dresser was so left field I almost choked on my confectionery lol
+1 recommendation for Hummingbird, which I watched after hearing Mark's review.
Thank you so much for this review, I completely agree with all those points, physicality, metaphors, music. It is pure cinema, a beautiful (though nightmarish) movie that I fear is being overlooked by critics.
I'm going to watch 'Frank' and then 'Spencer'. Then, I can say I've watched Frank Spencer ;)
Honestly did not think Kristen Stewart could pull this off but she was wonderful in it, totally shocking how good she was in it. I have a new found respect for her. Also, reassuring to know Mark Kermode likes it too lol
This is really very good. -Mark Kermode reviews Spencer.
I like biopics that make people uncomfortable
"That's not how she was to me, someone who only experienced Princess Diana through TV and magazines and all that"
Ok that's the point???
I watched Diana's chef, Darren M Grady review this movie on his channel. He debunked some of the dramatic license because he was actually present during some of this time period.
@penguin What's the point of your comment? Oh yeah, there is no point.
It’s not a biopic - it’s a fable. Presumably Anne Boleyn also turned up to debunk saving Diana’s life?
The best thing about this film, despite Kristen Stewart, is Jonnys work on the sounds 👍 being the worlds biggest Radiohead fan makes my opinion slightly biased, but he’s fast becoming the go to guy for avantgarde cinema soundtrack, the mans a genius 😉
kristen stewart's performance is amazing in this film. i just watched it yesterday
I'm actually going to watch it mainly for Jonny's score. He's a brilliant composer.
I was ambivalent about watching this film, however, this review has sold me on it
Don’t be, it’s mind-numbingly dull.
Jackie was excellent, as gripping as a thriller. Agree also about Stewart as an actor, and Hummingbird. If I carry on like this I'll need the equivalent of a K&M Blue Peter badge!
The film is a masterpiece, and Stewart's performance is astonishingly good.
No offense to anyone who liked this movie, but I didn't enjoy it. Kristen Stewart plays the same character here as she played in Twilight. She has her face set to "I'm about to puke" for the majority of this film even before her eating disorder literally comes up. Stewart is a master at playing grossed out, bored, and tense. And that's all Diana was in this film. Diana in reality wasn't so self-centered that she couldn't even smile for the cameras. This Diana looks like the cameras burned her. She's self-pitying and suffering from beginning to end. I'd never seen Diana as a spoiled brat until Spencer.
It was very good and the lead was excellent, forgive the heavy handed pheasant, Anne Boleyn, “firm personified” man-servant and a few other heavy-handed elements.
I think this film is magnificent, and I also think that it shares the same kind of dramatic space as Aronofsky's Mother! As for the cinematography, some productions in the past are guilty of choosing to shoot on film, merely to promote a style over substance, this is far from the truth here. In Spencer it was essential for its visual style, and I must mention the claustrophobic element of the film being in shot in that 1.66:1 aspect ratio, the overall result is that Spencer is one of most exquisitely shot films I have watched in the cinema for many, many years.
Stephen Knight, creator of the misunderstood genius that is Serenity
Really enjoyed the movie. Has even changed the way I think of Dianna and the royal family. Has made me more sympathetic to her (and to Harry).
I loved this film and performance.
Lol I had to turn it off so bad! I should’ve tried to continue but wasn’t feeling it, I didn’t like her as Diana… but maybe it got better 🤷♀️
They got The costume wrong for Christmas Day,Diana wore the red and black the next year in 1992! not 1991.
A mention of horror movies but not The Exorcist? Missed a trick Mark 😜
My 2021 pest picture, feels like a Darren Arfonovsky.
Great review
For me this was a message movie...Diana was a fragile soul who knew she was doomed
even before she walked down the aisle !
Honestly, I suspect the problem wasn't Diana (the person) so much as the clearly anachronistic institution of monarchy in the late 20th century.
@@jnicolson865 I don't believe she truly understood the quicksand she was slowly drowning in. The complex nature of an institution hundreds of years old that had no intention of entertaining change.
Lines from a song long ago comes to mind...
"Love hurts, love scars Love wounds and marks Any heart Not tough or strong enough To take a lot of pain, take a lot of pain Love is like a cloud Holds a lot of rain Love hurts .
Diana was an Empath...not survivable in that environment !
SPENCER
This is the new historical drama starring Kristen Stewart as Princess Diana. The story is a fictional one but has a lot of metaphorical truths. It tells the story of her visiting Sandringham estate to spend Christmas with the royal family. It doesn't explicitly state which year but it is set in the early 90s post Prince Charles's affair.
It does however look at her tainted relationships with the Royals, and her mental health issues caused by having her autonomy and sense of self taken away by the system she lives within. It explores her eating disorders as well as her anxiety. In addition, it also looks at how regimented and precise the expectations are for those who are either Royals or work in the estate.
The central performance from Kristen Stewart is what makes this film stand out. She has clearly done her homework and researched Diana. She has the accent, the Diana mannerisms down to a T. Timothy Spall also plays a good supporting role as head butler and supervisor Alistair Gregory. However as a film itself, whilst it's watchable again and I'd recommend to those who follow the Royals, it's not really my kind of film. It's not one that I'll remember in months and years to come. But it has a lot of good points. 6/10
So I went to see Spencer last night to see what all the fuzz was about. Kristen Stewart is legitimately great, but she doesn’t hold a candle to Jodie Comer in The Last Duel.
I have been meaning to watch The Last Duel. Thank You for reminding me.
Is there a movie that tells things from Charles' perspective?
Its a film that just takes a guess at where to aim and hits the centre target.
I agree 100%
We need to normalize actors portraying known figures their own way instead of impressions
No. Emma Corrin proved you can do it the right way, and Elizabeth Debicki looks better in two still pictures than Stewart did in this whole film. I never for a moment believed I was watching Diana. It was just Kristen Stewart in a bad wig and clothes that she looked like she felt awkward in.
@@a.madison9625 yeah for someone who dislike her performance you seemed to be very active in commenting everything about her. We get the memo Madison, you dislike it. Now, let others watch it and have their own opinion about it? Okay?
Only the second movie in my life that I've walked out on. A total misrepresentation of all the characters involved and their various intra-relationships which occluded any technical merits of the movie. Had all the characters been fictional Im certain I would have stayed to the end.
Because you know them personally?
It was rather disappointing.
I mean, the film literally opens the first words: “a FABLE based on a true story”.
I really wished they cut the last 10 mins of the movie off. Would have been perfect
Rooting for Kristen Stewart to win best actress, the score and cinematography is incredible too
Watched it today. Stewart is outstanding.
Can't wait to see this!!! Her talent is amazing
Kristin Stewart was the best thing about it, the music however, ruined it.
Ahistorical, live action cartoon. In the 1990s this would have been a bad US television movie. Kirsten Stewart was very good, the score was intrusive, the close-up camera work was fatiguing.
How is it even close to a cartoon? It's a haunted, slow, almost bleak film. It's very sensitive with a hint of hope. Ahistorical? Yes, only for the good. It didn't concern itself with presenting biographical facts, it attempted to paint a portrait of one tormented soul.
Sounds good
fable about a true tragedy... is like disclaimer to say yeah is based on real life, bigger than life, people, but is really fiction, so don't get confused with the line of fiction\fantasy vs biographical true events ... which is a problem I think when after the 13 Hours Bengazhi movie and Zero Dark Thirty, espeically 13 Hours, with politicians referring to the movie as fact and some audiences perhaps too stupid to distinguish between fact and fiction...
So I was only 2 when she died so I obviously have no memory of it but in my opinion I think they should let her rest in peace now and let her go she's hopefully in a better place and that this isn't haunting her 💔💔😡😔
i genuinely thought the movie would be from say diana's divorce to her death, or similar to how the crown is. it just showed her suffering through her eating disorder and how she was hallucinating constantly of anne boleyn. although some parts were humorous, the story with her dresser being attracted to her just came across as though the director didn't know what else to add to the film.
Hey.Loqueremos
Kristen Stewart BETTER get nominated for this film!
Hang on, what DOES 'on the nose' mean, then? The way Mark uses it is how I've always thought it's meant.
I liked "Jackie," but unfortunately, I can't say the same for "Spencer."
5/5 🍿🍿🍿🍿
Not quite an Oscar worthy performance from Kristen, but it's def the most I've felt engaged in her portrayal of a character and forgot about her. She really shone when she had someone else to act against, be it Charles, the two kids, or Maggie. How alone Diana felt, the weight of the 'family' pressing down on her was visceral, to the point I teared up a bit when the release finally came
She was pretty good in the 2018 Charlie's Angels but I am likely comparing that film to the McG versions.
@@Banquet42 I tried it but it wasn't for me. She did seem to have a whale of a time filming and doing press tours with the other two though
It is an Oscar worthy
Well she’s going to absolutely walk her way to best actress….easily
Well worth seeing.
A work of genius.....
Eastern promises is a good movie...haven't seen it in a while
It's excellent, so is Dirty Pretty Things.
Brilliant film!!!
Kristen the oscar is yours 👏👌👏👏
The only problem I can see is that Stewart looks nothing even remotely like Diana.
And the accent wasn’t great
@@noellet62able Oh nooooooo!!!!
Lol 😂 No one does. She has a unique look. It’s hard to find a stunning actress who looks stunningly gorgeous AND can act. Even if they found one who is gorgeous, she won’t look like Diana.
Agreed. I watched it last night and couldn't get past that.
Because she’s not Diana. What a dumb observation. She’s an actor.
So it’s still a better love story than Twilight?
Whole movie was basically people trying to get Diana to come to dinner on time.
I saw the film last night and sadly was laughing out loud after 10 minutes. I get the attributes for the music and indeed the central role. At its best in terms of mental instability I thought of comparisons with Deneuve in Repulsion. Unfortunately these are fleeting and there are a number of clunking bad scenes.
The transport cafe, the ghost of Anne Boleyn to signify doomed Princess, the victorian villain from East Lynn played by Timothy Spall, and indeed the KFC drive through finale.
Arthouse fans will no doubt love it, but for me proved to be more turkey than pheasant.
I have no skin in this as I literally just stumbled upon this reivew. I just wanna say you sound like an intolerable nob head.
I saw it this afternoon after hearing Mark's review. I didn't really enjoy it. The breathy dialogue is difficult to hear, and it just seemed a bit silly. I must thank the Little Theatre Cinema in Bath for enhancing the atmosphere of Sandringham by pumping up the air con! Bloomin' freezing.
I totally agree.
No spoilers please, Titanic was ruined by people giving the plot away.
I think this movie is incredibly insensitive to her children. It must so hard for them to see these scenes of their mother self harming and going through an eating disorder but to then make her suicidal.. the whole movie was absolutely tonedeaf . Diana was not a weak Boring woman that portrayed her to be .
diana is the strongest character in the film by far. you imply that battling mental health problems makes a person weak??
I am fairly sure Diana herself talked of a time she considered throwing herself down the stairs when she was pregnant with one of her children. Her interviews available on internet are way harder than this movie. No surprise Harry decided to call himself out
Guilia c, I strongly suspect that this is why Diana herself put so much out there about her experience in her own words, she understood how the many apologists for the institution would attempt to misrepresent her.
@@starrreise3925 I agree
No one’s saying she’s weak or boring but you.
Kermode, your hair is constantly out of shot! I've read The Good, the Bad and the Multiplex so I know you know how big a deal this is.
She sounded like her but she looks nothing like her visually so in that regard I'm disappointed. The girl in The Crown looked a lot like her, sounded like her, had the mannerisms, and her acting was really good.
Na Kristen is better, Emma did a cartoon of Diana
i didn't really like Jackie, but i really want to see this one.