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If they talk about DUNE, there's plenty to discuss comparing the new film to the '84 film and the 2000 mini-series. I'd love to see them zero in on the shield effect.
Oh i can't wait to hear them talk about the old Dune Minecraft mannikin shields ;)
The '84 film didn't use CG it was all hand painted.
The 80s shield looks better, don't @me
That sounds like a cool discussion!
So does looking at the oily maniac as well, but I guess I’m the only one who cares about that.
Oh don’t forget the 2003 one!
Man that spider monster from IT really looks like wren
Chammy
I think that's because of the time they were playing around with that 1-picture-everyday guy when I recall there being a Wren head used.
Its their friend who died
I thought it was and that's the whole reason I clicked on the video
@@jeremiahsaxton8967 I thought that too
“Wren, this ones for you!”
-me remembering the time Wren was shoved in a mini fridge
He was D:? Oh no, do you think he knows if the light actually turns off if you close it?
It's pretty insane that visual effects have gotten so good that professional visual effects artists can't always tell when it's real or not
It would be great to see how Video Game High School has held up through the years
be a good one to bring freddie in on
That would be dope!
I love vghs
It didn't
Yesssss!
Since No Way Home soon comes out, I would love to see them react to the live-action Spiderman movies throughout the years, from the Raimi trilogy, to the Marc Webb movies, to the mcu spiderman
Yes yes 1000% yes!
We better not forget about Supaidaman
@SorcererOne agreed. It felt so believable.
I was just thinking this! I wanna see their takes on the quality of the CG after this long
Yes because the internet doesnt have enough superhero movie analysis on it already!
For the Tomorrow War alien - the Chris Pratt jumping scene is kinda rough, but as far as the size difference, I think it’s because the one at the end of the movie is a different, or at least younger version of the one we see in the middle part of the film. That’s how I remember it anyway, due to the time traveling aspect of the film’s central plot.
It was supposed to be the same queen as the one shown previously. However, because they found the dormant hive in their frozen stasis, it might not have grown to the bigger size. So, yes, I believe you are correct.
Yes, that’s what I was trying to get at. Thanks for clarifying!
Nailed it.
@@oktyabrinagadon4956 gross
@@johnfran3218 who at the mental institute gave you access to a computer.
i love that this series is becoming the official source of information for these topics because of more and more of people that work in the field they are referencing coming on
Niko: “Curiosity is extremely powerful”… proceeds to tease a crazy shot that you can only see by visiting the Corridor website. Genius
Lol
Slight correction: A shot you can only see by visiting the Corridor website and paying their monthly subscription fee
Hard pass at going to some website to watch a slightly longer CZcams video lol
@@sakumisan I think you can find the scene here on youtube... or watch the movie... but Cube Zero is a shit movie.
And gets a thumb down for it...
Fun fact: the rotating camera rigs in House of the Dead were really dangerous. They had them stand on a platform and had the camera rotate around the platform at VERY high speeds. It is said that the actors could have died if they moved too much because the rotation was THAT fast. Uwe is insane.
Supposedly that’s originally the approach the Wachowskis wanted to take on the original matrix set for the bullet time effect but were discouraged due to safety concerns so they went with the many cameras route
My old boss told me they had to do similar stuff on In the Night Garden of all things.
The characters are all adults in suits, but comped together at different scales in the show, so sometimes a dynamic camera move would require firing a rig around at 40mph to get the movement to match up when scaled down.
Did they have such high frame rate camera back then?
Holy Moly
Fun fact: Walking in a city is dangerous since there are CARS moving at VERY high speeds near pedestrians
4:13 Niko is correct. This is actually a part of our psychology! Our brain's reward system depends far more on the build-up to a reward than the reward itself. Sicario border crossing has a twenty minute build-up and only about twenty seconds of action, but most people have it as one of their favorite scenes.
Please breakdown how the dance scene at the beginning of “Last Night in Soho” was done. The way the 2 actresses change while the male actor stays the same and in camera was very cool, and I want to know how they did it!!!
A part of how it was achieved is that the male character is played by twins. James and Oliver Phelps from the Harry Potter series.
They won't be able to *legally* until it comes out on a home video medium cuz they wouldn't have the footage to show.
@@RyanConnell5150 couldn't they just buy the rights to it
@@skrimper oh like that is cheap or easy lol.
Yes! The movie was good all throughout but the ending was disappointing. 7/10 wasted potential
The other thing that made Chris Pratt look weird in that shot was that he was way more in focus than the alien, like the director needed the audience to know it was him, even at the expense of it looking real.
Yeah this is a case of, VFX artists doing everything that they can to salvage bad writing. The writer wrote in "Alien runs full speed across the snow, Chris Pratt runs in and catches it" but didn't really think through the implications of that. And the director didn't catch that and go, wait, does that mean Chris Pratt is outrunning the creature?
You could've stuck Pratt on a motorcycle or a snowmobile and had him dive off to catch the creature. But, that wasn't in the script, director didn't catch it, so they shot it and handed it to the VFX house and went "do your thing" and I think they did what the could with what they were given.
I couldn't even tell it was him
Maybe Chris Pratt needed a bit more motion blur if he was going that fast?
Yeah, the physics are wonky for sure, but I think the real problem is the compositing wasn't quite right. There's that cut-out look where he's clearly not from the same shot. Whether it's too little motion blur, mismatched lighting, or some other problem, he just pops out of the shot weirdly.
Should've just been CGI..
I'd love to see a reaction to the original Spiderman trilogy (doc ock's arms, venom and sandman scenes)
and also Silent Hill 2006, the otherworld transitions and monster designs (And considering this is a Halloween episode, this movie would've been perfect to react to now).
doc ock's arms were mostly practical...
@@nsa1905 1. In close up shots, not when he's walking
2. They've reacted to practical shots as well in their series before...
I just watched Silent Hill the other night and thought it would be cool for them to react to it because the effects were pretty great - and still are, honestly.
@@NicolaiAAA Yes! Some of them are impressive for 2006 and look decent today. I've been asking them to react to this and the spiderman trilogy for so long now. It's as if they don't actually take suggestions from comments.
They should do that after No Way Home comes out, so they can compare the techniques
*Explorers, 1985* by _Joe Dante_
Industrial Light & Magic pulled off some _wonderful_ shots in that film with the home-made spaceship.
A particular shot is where the boys flying the ship are approached by a police helicopter at night, and there's a _full turn around shot_ of the helicopter circling the ship, first shining a light _on_ the forcefield, then shining a light _through_ the force field.
How?
That movie gets a LOT of flack for the ending, but it's pure magical kid's sci-fi for the majority of it and I, personally, don't hate the aliens. Glad to have the poster on my wall.
One of my favourite childhood films!
I absolutely LOVE Cube, one of my film school profs actually did the sound on it and it caught the attention of Darren Aronofsky who hired him on for Requiem for a Dream.
And he never slept well again..
Now that the new Dune movie is out, I’d love to see you guys compare all three versions, 1984 move, and 2000 series, comparing the technology and the creative approaches to each.
Sand worms, how they look and move in all versions, from the CGI to the practical shots.
The Personal shields, how they moved from the ‘Minecraft’ versions to more of a glow around them, that has to be timed with their fight movements. (PS, I would love for you to try your own version, choreograph your own fight scene and put in your own shields)
The blue eyes in the 1984 version, how they compare with the extra luminescent ones in the 2000 version, are those painted into each frame?
Ornithopters, from the original versions to the really cool dragonfly versions now
Sand effects - All those storms, and how they created the varying textures over the years.
That’s just for starters, but an episode where you discuss all three versions would be great to watch.
Sounds like a good idea! Has nobody covered that subject yet?
Oh god no. Not the series Children of Dune. The CGI is SOOOO janky.
Hell yeah!
Good detail I dig it
@@jamiestewart48 I remember watching, they were traveling in the desert at night, but it was just a daytime desert backdrop that was darkened. It was so cringy
I love how abstract Sam's humour is becoming. The depressing tones of life flow through his jokes and its right up my alley.
Idk he comes off as a douchebag to me
"the white spikes are very very complicated in their motion"... getting some flashbacks to being asked to rig the weta model for the previz :)
Please try to get an interview with some of the original developer + inventors of CGI. Like for the Jurassic Park, Terminator or Abyss movie. Since they worked for Weta and you now have established the connections 😄
2:02 Right before he jumps with the ax you can, clear as day, you can see the black cushion base for him to land on after his flip. Half a second later it shows that he has nothing under him.
So, if your interested... Shameless plug: I did sit with UWE BOLL and had a mini podcast session with him. He was a really nice guy actually.
You can see the crash pad before he does the axe throw flip, so good.
Since it's now over 25 years old, I'd love to see the Crew react to Season 5 Episode 6 of Star Trek: Deep Space Nine 'Trials and Tribble-ations', the one where they put the cast into an old episode of The Original Series!
I've wanted them to do this for a long time. The effect was amazing.
Deep Space Nine is so underrated. Outstanding show, yo.
Now that Dune is out, I would love to see vfx reaction to all three Dunes, including the mini series on syfy.
Hell yes!!!
And maybe the unrealized Jodorowsky's version of Dune that was going to involve VFX supervisor Dan O'Bannon.
@@santishorts You want them to react to a movie that doesn't exist? OK.
I wish the mini series was streaming on a service. I've never seen it, but want to badly.
@@peterm.4355 To the concept art maybe, to the fact that is perhaps the most influential hollywood movie never to have been made, since it for instance led to the creation of the Alien franchise.
I would love to see you guys breakdown Dune, incredible movie that really made me question what's CG and what's not
I second this! I was also confused with what was or wasn't CG
Check your shower
@@jeffispro2567 i am hiding in your walls
@@jeffispro2567 LMAO
@@muffinman3052 he probably shat in your shower while you were hiding
11:30 The problem with the shot is the mismatched camera movement. The 3D CG Shot is extremely dynamic, the camera's bouncing up and down and all over the place, and then Pratt just glides in and remains in the same height and angle in the frame while the camera is still moving and shaking. Some compositor somewhere forgot to apply the 3D camera motion to his 2d cutout. Also, like you mentioned, Pratt's entrance feels too slow for the movement of the creature. It should have been double the speed.
I'm a bit late to this party but Sheldon Stopsack was our Uber Supervisor ad "Dean men tell no tales". The world is small, great work, i really enjoy your stuff.
I would love to see your reaction to the CGI in the Paddington movies.
Paddington’s CGI is incredible.
Agree
What CGI that's a real bear
@@dhan07404 yeah, what is this slander against paddington
Me too! Great suggestion
I was in my audio production class the other day and my professor showed a really old video of you guys talking about how you didn't use a single gun sound to make your gun sound effects. I was pleasantly surprised.
haha
Scott Pilgrim vs the World and Bunraku are some of the most visually interesting movies I’ve ever seen. I would love an episode on comic book style/stylistic movies!
What about Krull and Casino Royal?
Seconded. I'm not sure if I want to see Bunraku in particular more on vfx artists react or stuntmen react.
I truly appreciate you guys making your videos in 2160p. It really is nice to get that extra bit of crispness in the video to compare and contrast. Aswell as to see those minor small details you all see.
They did a great job with the monsters in the tomorrow war, from the build up before they're shown to making them feel like an actual creature that has defined strenghts, weaknesses, behaviors...
No cap reminded me of edge of tmmr but another take that was equally as entertaining
It's a shame the same kind of dedication to detail didn't make it to the plot of that movie.
@@srsgoblin Agreed. Sadly the film didnt really get good until the last third when they were in the alps
@@srsgoblin ah I enjoyed nevertheless. Sometimes all you gotta do is sit back and enjoy. Ignore the plot.
@@adityawankhede7260 it was okay! The CGI work is legitimately incredible, as you'd expect from WETA. The action scenes did justice to capturing the hopelessness of the situation, creating tension and all that. I just think it fails a bit as a film because the plot is nonsense to the point it's distracting. Found myself shouting "why the hell didn't you just" statements at least 7 or 8 times.
Time travel movies being resolved without the time travel bits ever mattering is annoying.
I’d love to see a breakdown of Apollo 13; apparently they had some excellent VFX work on that movie.
IIRC, there's relatively little CGI in Apollo 13. I think the launch scene was digital, or at least mostly digital, but I'm fairly sure most or all of the rest was practical. And all the zero-G stuff was done for real in a vomit comet.
They did an episode on that already bro, check it out
@@victorianotradovec9179 Link please? They don't give the names in the heading so unable to get it.
“What’s up CZcams? Welcome back to piss physics!”
@@victorianotradovec9179 that’s Apollo 11
That scene of the high speed camera was so dangerous they have never done it again.
I actually worked as a tracking/matchmove artist on It - Chapter Two. Very interesting to hear your hot takes on how you guys thought it was done! It's such a trip to think that I was watching these guys and their awesome shorts back in high school to now where they're reacting to work that I've done - keep on being awesome guys!
look at you, slyly refraining from any comment indicating how close or far off their speculation was... ;)
Fellas, there's a simple explanation to why Chris Pratt was able to yeet himself onto the creature. He's Mario.
Naaa! Sonic! He was running fast!
I wanna know how guys think the ornithopter wings in DUNE Part 1 were done, they looked really cool and strange
They're CGI. No mystery there. Really good motion blur, though.
The more I watch the crew. You three in specific for me personally. It inspires me more and more to go into VFX artist line work my way up and get some experience and hopefully eventually join the crew and see what the future holds
As basic of an action movie that The Tomorrow War was, I still actually found it quite fun and entertaining (wasn't a fan of the gratuitous PG-13 F bomb dropped in unnecessarily). I also absolutely loved the designs used for the aliens. They were very unique. Kinda made me think of a combination of the monsters from The Great Wall and the aliens from A Quiet Place and then of course the aliens from Alien.
And I also cried when
Muri died
12:06 Chris Pratt fighting the monster in snowy land and fighting it in the cave are several decades apart in the movie, because thats why the size of the queen changes.
Was going to say this.
then why doesn't Chris Pratt change size alongside it?
@@zep909 time travel and that’s not even a spoiler it’s in the trailer
@@two-face1041 everything can be a spoiler if you choose to be poorly informed.
Wren handled the head spider super well, that was horrifying.
He saw The Thing.
glad i wasnt the only one completely horrified 😅
Why does that head lowkey look like him tho?
@@rebotero89 yup my thought exactly when i saw that thumbnail
I'd so love to see you guys talk about the "bumping the lamp" scene in Roger Rabbit. The fact that they bumped the lamp to make it swing just to make it even more difficult on themselves....ballers
The white spikes always amazed me with the creature animation and JUST how realistic they move.
The iconic “how do you think they did this” is the best part of every episode. Thanks guys 😬
Agreed
The confidence and all behind Wren’s “hell yea” at 9:01 is the best 🤣
I didn't see that before,it was hilarious , thank you
I just got back from Antlers and the creature effects are absolutely stunning. Couldn't even tell if it was CG or costume/rigging work.
That IT scene looked freaking phenomenal
Damn, always an honor having you guys talk about some of the shots I had a hand in. Love the show and keep spreading the good word about VFX
You can't say thanks and not mention what you worked on. Such a tease...
@@jikae10 I was part of the IT and tomorrow war teams haha
2:00 when the zombie does a flip you can actually see the crash mat on the floor in front of him ✌️
Wren's little smiley face brings me joy
The Carpenter Brut shirt. Niko has great taste.
Love that you guys looked at cube, it's a great canadian made horror film, and my program coordinator at my school was actually one of the sound designers on it!
Now that's amazing. I bet he still gets residual checks from it
Imagine a dedicated series just for reacting to insanely realistic or stylized graphics in games. That would be dope!!!
that would be the shortest series ever.
@@lmaoqasim Cynical and unobservant, what a package.
dissecting stylized styles would be much more interesting than realistic ones. Realism just requires you to throw a lot of work hours at the tiny details, but stylization, here's where the creativity comes upfront, since almost all modern game engines are made with the intention for those hyper-realistic AAA titles in mind you need to do quite a lot of hacks to, say, force the shadows to drop in a non-realistic fashion.
I would love for them to break down where some movie adaptations went wrong
Glad to see some love for Cube. It makes my little Canadian heart proud.
I can't wait to see a Dune episode. Probably the most beautiful sci-fi movie I've ever seen.
Watch more movies, clown.
Watch BR2049
@@morbiuscrystal4875 cry more
@@morbiuscrystal4875 *casual jerkoff motion
@@ms98816 nice name for your daddy.
17:05
Corridor: ok Jordan, we need you to really sell raycons durability.
* Jordan releases the inner demon*
😃😃😂😂
Just Binged Severance and I could never skip the opening credits. It's so satisfying to watch and see clues about it the show. I would love to see an episode dedicated to well done CGI intros. ( Severance, Game of Thrones, Westworld, new Lord of the Rings....etc..) love every episode. Keep it up everyone!
Thanks for the concept art shout out guys! really enjoy what you do!
It would be awesome to see you guys react to the 1977s Spider-Man tv show or movies, because it has some of the best/funniest effects I've seen in my entire life
I was rewatching nightmare on elm street and thought “I hope they do a Halloween episode!” And here it is, thanks guys, it’s great.
The next on the wish list is a “Sound FX artist reacts” . It’s something no one talks about and I think could be very interesting!
This is such a good recommendation!! Sound designers deserve SO much respect for building literally half the movie!
Incredible video! Love this series so much
Id love to hear you talk about foundation. It is just visually stunning and i can't believe they got it to that level when it's "just" a series
I was honestly surprised at just _how_ good the effects were for the Tomorrow War. I mean, they looked _really_ good for a movie that wasn't a big Hollywood film, which was really cool to see.
It actually cost 200M. Pretty big budget! News outlets reported that Skydance sold it to Amazon in January this year. Would've been theatrically released for sure if not for the pandemic.
Effects were decent, but the art composition for those effects was just alright
It was a big Hollywood film, just got released on streaming due to the pandemic.
@@stephenhumphries9419 Skydance is an Ellison company. I'd say it cost 100M max plus 100M coke budget for Ellision and "friends" ;)
Lol
React to Dune Part 1!! Can’t wait to see you guys cover this absolute gem of a movie.
Maybe the next year cuz the movie is still on cinemas
Ngl Dune is kinda boring
@@unicornhuntercg
To each their own.
@@Ferchovicente it's on hbo max also, so maybe they could just wait until it's no longer in theaters
everything was great in that movie.. except the power rangers kind of suit fight scene of Atreides.. that was really off.
Gave a like mostly for Jordan showing how raycons stay in place. Love all of your content guys
that CUBE slice n dice shot is way more impressive than i recall
That scene from IT never fails to make me flinch
you guys should do an episode dedicated to dragon cgi, especially reign of fire from 2002, got and smaug
And Draco from Dragon Heart - they made a big puppet rig if I remember right
A dragon episode would be fascinating
Talking about dragons and noone mentions the dragon in Dragonslayer?
STARSHIP TROOPERS! watched this the other night and some scenes still hold up today. Also it has some great cg and practical effects. Take a look.
Nice to see Edge of Tomorrow get a mention :) I was the cg lighting lead on that at Framestore all those years ago.
Would be great to see a dune episode covering Lynch’s film, the mini series, and the new one.
You guys should check out the visual effects for the What We Do in the Shadows TV series. Always felt like they have pretty good visual effects (both CGI and practical); at least for a comedy TV series.
With wrens mention of love, death, and robots, my life is complete.
12:09 those are 2 different monsters, the big one is the queen and the one at the end just just one of the drones that was frozen in the space ship
Jordan is so lovely!
12:08 in regards to it being smaller, the scene where he hops onto it is in "modern day", while the big hulking queen where they are trying to capture it and it looks massive is several decades in the future which means it's either a different creature entirely, or over the course of several decades, it grew to be bigger.
I had actually never thought that every cell of CUBE was shot in the same exact 20x20 set, that's how well it's done.
That entire scene with Sheldon? 100% practical effects.
I really like the Carpenter Brut T-Shirt Niko is wearing
He has some good taste in music I must say👌
In Tomorrow War, the creature is smaller in those scenes because they are attempting to kill the aliens during the present day, before the "war" can ever occur. The "larger" queen scene takes place in the future, so it is inherently bigger as it has had time to grow.
Movies garbage and makes zero sense. Taking soldiers from the past just makes Earth weak, should of just used the past to fuel arms and develop weapons against the white spikes.
@@krounos1 that's exactly what they did? They took people from the past to buy them time to make a toxin to kill the white spikes.
i saw cube like 200 times back when i was use to smoke weed. i saw hyper cube a wild amount so, cool to see cube clips love u guys
Nice to see you Sheldon!
Continuing the spooky theme, a look at the Alien/Predator/AVP series and the evolution of the effects used from 1979 to 2018 so far would be awesome.
Dune should be included in your next reaction, the visual effects for that movie were impeccable!
You guys should totally dedicate an episode to the different visual effects in love death and robots, there’s some really interesting stuff!
Im @00:24 seconds in and im SOOOO happy you guys are looking at the Cube! my all time favorite horror.
You guys should do a live action anime adaptations for one of your upcoming ones, you could do Gintama and Fullmetal (awful movie but I would love to see the VFX breakdown)
The Gintama movie wasn't great visual effects wise, but damn was it a funny movie.
or jojo and parysite
Jordan has come the closest to getting me to almost buy a pair of raycons.
She's so cute trying to sell things, isn't she? Too bad I don't need them
I've already seen it before and i still flinch hard at the spider head scene in IT
It's crazy how "Cube" began to get its true flowers for being the movie that inspired the "Saw" movies. Netflix 2019 uploaded "Cube"😁
17:44 i usually only like videos so that i can save them separately from my watch laters, but this hilariously executed bad joke won me over on this one haha
It's "high" time we got an animators react to psychedelic animation. Let's see Felix Colgrave's Double King or Gerald Scarfe's animation from Pink Floyd's The Wall or maybe even the Dan Deacon video When I Done Dying.
Love Niko's Carpenter Brut shirts
I just saw Hellraiser one recently and I'm interested to watch you guys break down the effects on how Frank reconstructs himself in the beginning of the film. Been a fan for a while. Always love watching your breakdowns.
Has CC ever done an episode where they break down the FX from The Crow? Maybe a little too soon to with the what happened on the set of Rust though.
I love the analysis and reactions for horror movies from you guys specifically!
Maybe Halloween needs to happen a bit more often hmmm
The Tomorrow War is so underrated...
I just hope you feature a lot more VFX shots of it in the future episodes of VFX React...
Tomorrow War overall was cool but the beasts in it were amazing! Not only how great they made them look but also how they fighted in various ways and different environments!