Why has this sport never had an openly gay player? | Four Corners

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  • čas přidán 20. 08. 2023
  • Australian rules football at the elite level is the only major sporting code in the world that hasn’t had a single male player, present or even past, publicly identify as gay.
    Four Corners investigates what is being done to change the toxic culture of the sport.
    00:00: Intro: AFL and hypermasculinity
    7:40: Homophobia in the media
    8:20: Banned for having HIV
    18:45: The controversial article
    24:30: Supporting the community
    26:43: Homophobic language in sport
    32:49: Culture of silence
    36:05: Inclusivity in AFLW
    39:00: ‘I thought football would kill me’
    This Four Corners documentary was originally broadcast as 'The Silence' on August 21, 2023, on ABC TV and ABC iview.
    Read more about the story here: ab.co/3RuoYrd
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Komentáře • 48

  • @RARDingo
    @RARDingo Před 11 měsíci +242

    This was superb! Thank you ABC. As someone that grew up in the 70's with openly gay relatives, I could never understand why gay slurs were considered part of the culture of male dominated groups. However, I even publicly participated at times to fit in. During my Army career I had a roomate that was firmly in the closet. Watching his pain & confusion was both enlightening & disturbing. I tried to broach the subject with him, but he was firmly in denial & became extremely scared. Several years after concluding my military service I ran into him to find a very changed man. He had come out & it was like seeing someone that had been released from lifelong imprisonment. He was happier, healthier & just a better person all around.
    So many have been destroyed by homophobia, many just by the desire of others to fit in.

  • @Jay_Wolfe
    @Jay_Wolfe Před 11 měsíci +27

    I felt more comfortable being openly gay in the Australian Army, than I did playing even local football.

  • @Repomidnight
    @Repomidnight Před 11 měsíci +43

    I think, when the first gay player comes out, a dozen will follow within months.

  • @DavidSchilter
    @DavidSchilter Před 11 měsíci +16

    It's about time the culture (or lack thereof) in AFL is cleaned up. Sadly for now, gay players will have to summon huge heroism to come out and fully express themselves. Hope this changes soon! Also kudos to Bob Murphy for 'coming out' and admitting to his regrettable homophobic comments. This also takes great courage. If only the AFL as a whole had the same courage and willingness to change. We can only call ourselves the Lucky Country if each and every one of our communities feels that way.

  • @terrythekittieful
    @terrythekittieful Před 11 měsíci +17

    Maybe it's a lot easier to not come out of the closet for fear of copping homophobic comments from the other side of the fence. Racist slurs at games still continue, albeit from a minority of deadbeats, so homophobic slurs would be a real possibilty. The first player to admit he was gay would be super brave. All the same, he would have support from 90+% of supporters. The other -10% have no hope of helping themselves.

  • @phantomstrider
    @phantomstrider Před 10 měsíci +10

    Respects for all the supportive kind comments.

  • @smartoperator7716
    @smartoperator7716 Před 11 měsíci +40

    This has been a huge thorn in my love for AFL, thanks 4 Corners for bringing light to this conversation.

  • @shannonpincombe8485
    @shannonpincombe8485 Před 11 měsíci +39

    I understand that there is homophobia at many levels of society. Those who behave poorly against those who are different are cowards. Live and let live. Everyone has a right to play our great football code. We may be missing out on the next Buddy Franklin or Plugger Lockett if we don't accept every talented individual who loves our game. Carn the HAWKS!!

  • @benbutler9282
    @benbutler9282 Před 11 měsíci +12

    bless Bob Murphy

  • @freeman61
    @freeman61 Před 11 měsíci +24

    Powerful, meaningful, insightful, once again ABC Four Corners you have given us the best of the best reporting on such an important issue.

  • @MrBigbangbuzz
    @MrBigbangbuzz Před 11 měsíci +5

    If I was gay and played professional sport , I’d be worried about being targeted by some elements of the crowd and even some media

  • @weskitten
    @weskitten Před 11 měsíci +5

    Glad to see this on youtube, I missed it on tv as I no longer own a television.

  • @jord.an6123
    @jord.an6123 Před 11 měsíci +32

    Really well made piece. Some of that was heartbreaking

  • @charliel07
    @charliel07 Před 11 měsíci +65

    Maybe some players just don't want to be defined by their sexuality 🤷‍♀️

  • @gegemec
    @gegemec Před 11 měsíci +33

    Gripping viewing, thanks so much for tackling this issue. What is highlighted is the homophobia in our general society, not just in the AFL. Further, homophobia against male homosexuals has always been more of an issue that against female homosexuals. Tackling this is much more confronting for men than it is for women.

  • @andrewhobbs2727
    @andrewhobbs2727 Před 11 měsíci +21

    I was a gay player in the late 80s and left because of this issue . lets have hope for the new generation . great reporting ,

  • @melsmithmel
    @melsmithmel Před 11 měsíci +19

    Australia's cultural norms are still quite problematic and sadly it extends into sport. Just like racism, homophobic slurs are deeply ingrained in our society. I hope with The Matilda's winning , there is a huge shift away from this boy's club macho AFL culture. Brilliant interviews.

  • @kiroolioneaver8532
    @kiroolioneaver8532 Před 11 měsíci +20

    As a North American and a recent convert to Aussie Rules and AFL although it is true that the AFL does lag behind other leagues in not having an openly queer player (past or present) seeing the open displays of LGBTQ+ flags, banners, signs and gear prominently within the cheer squads and supporters sections is something that you don't really see anywhere else and is something to be commended especially in light of leagues like the National Hockey League here at home reversing their stance on teams wearing pride jerseys in their pre-game warmups.

  • @adymatt334
    @adymatt334 Před 11 měsíci +45

    This is a very powerful story and I appreciate you so much for bringing this to light. Australian culture in general has a very long way to go in its fight against homophobia and racism. I feel crushed by it everyday and feel I simply just can’t be myself.

  • @MrBeachie111
    @MrBeachie111 Před 11 měsíci +18

    had tears rolling down my face when bob murphy spoke at the end >>. what a n amazing man !! and Im collingwood

  • @EmEm872
    @EmEm872 Před 11 měsíci +36

    Wow, I had tears running down my face by the end. Lets hope men will one day feel safe enough to say that they are gay and play afl. 🏳️‍🌈

  • @whataboutsarah1
    @whataboutsarah1 Před 11 měsíci +12

    Thank you Louise for a very powerful story. So sad to see how backwards AFL culture is, when it comes to LGBTQIA+ players

  • @heidiwooller4071
    @heidiwooller4071 Před 11 měsíci +11

    Extraordinary. Thank you for highlighting this.

  • @StevieCooper
    @StevieCooper Před 11 měsíci +10

    I walked past Marvel Stadium on my way to meet family about a month ago and coped some homophobia from some 16yo boys. I was gobsmacked that it was coming from that age group.
    I was meeting family after the match because I wouldn’t have felt safe attending the match..

  • @paulmatters2641
    @paulmatters2641 Před 11 měsíci +8

    Outstanding program. From a South Melbourne/Sydney Swans supporter. Thankyou.

  • @gunskill100
    @gunskill100 Před 11 měsíci +10

    That was a very powerful story.

  • @LSgrimm91
    @LSgrimm91 Před 11 měsíci +6

    It's fascinating how well the AFLW treats and welcome queer players. So close, yet so widely different.
    I have never cared for Eddie Macquire, but this make me like him a little bit.

  • @felixscarlett1542
    @felixscarlett1542 Před 11 měsíci +33

    With over 800 players across 18 teams, I am almost certain that at least one player is gay and they have come out to their teammates but not publicly due to two reasons:
    1. It will forever be associated with his career, no matter how good he is or his career achievements.
    2. Sexuality is a personal issue that is no one else's business and should remain private.

  • @beelzebubbla
    @beelzebubbla Před 11 měsíci +6

    Great report! I hope that change comes quickly.

  • @shitzuation
    @shitzuation Před 11 měsíci +2

    Wonderful story!! ❤

  • @brucenz4816
    @brucenz4816 Před 11 měsíci +3

    So, so important. Thank you.

  • @peterking7165
    @peterking7165 Před 11 měsíci +34

    Maybe people want to keep there personal life personal.

  • @joshuagiuliani3619
    @joshuagiuliani3619 Před 11 měsíci +3

    Powerful piece

  • @CaptainQuoll
    @CaptainQuoll Před 10 měsíci

    I stand up when people say any discrimination casual or not( when playing footy ) footy culture is beautiful but there are always holes sadly let’s patch those holes up. I get discriminated for being neurodivergent ( autism , adhd ) it’s hard to keep going but progress does lots

  • @sod371981
    @sod371981 Před 11 měsíci +2

    I love this type of content 👍👍👍

  • @tinkat2208
    @tinkat2208 Před 11 měsíci +8

    That was so powerful and I truly appreciate you bringing this to light.
    I didn't know that there was not a single gay player that has come out in AFL. Truly sad.
    Embrace all with peace and love ❤️

  • @tonysambar
    @tonysambar Před 11 měsíci +59

    I don't need to know anything about the sex lives of players. I just want to watch football.

  • @tessabiggs2917
    @tessabiggs2917 Před 10 měsíci +11

    Can we just play footy?

  • @Katherine-wx1kh
    @Katherine-wx1kh Před 11 měsíci +2

    Wow!!

  • @davidfenton6014
    @davidfenton6014 Před 11 měsíci +20

    Women always lead the way

  • @ga1e0john35
    @ga1e0john35 Před 11 měsíci +44

    Who even cares if anybody is gay. It’s unrelated to footy and irrelevant, no pride round is needed. I don’t condone homophobic behaviour or abuse at all.
    What has sexual preference got to do with your job or choice of sport at all and watch this blow up in the media as a huge story and single people out in the spotlight even more.
    We watch footy to watch footy and that’s it.

  • @bernadettemarietavendale7055
    @bernadettemarietavendale7055 Před 11 měsíci +12

    I'm so mad that a sport I've followed all my life is acting in this way

  • @antonmarcus5806
    @antonmarcus5806 Před 11 měsíci +20

    Why does it matter?

  • @timtalk6285
    @timtalk6285 Před 11 měsíci +2

    Wow the culture of AFL resembles the culture of the NFL here in the US .

  • @davidpearn4344
    @davidpearn4344 Před 11 měsíci +15

    Does it actually really matter

  • @fartexplosion4480
    @fartexplosion4480 Před 11 měsíci +3

    No player should ever come out alone. They need to come out as a group

  • @subzerostorm
    @subzerostorm Před 11 měsíci +17

    Who cares if someone is gay or not??? It's no ones business but the person and who they wish to share that with. Why do we have to bring this into the work place, including the AFL. Get over yourself ABC.