Deadly Nudge | China Eastern Airlines Flight 583

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    China Eastern Airlines Flight 583 was a China Eastern Airlines flight from Hongqiao Airport, Shanghai, to Los Angeles International Airport, Los Angeles.
    On April 6, 1993, the McDonnell-Douglas MD-11 was cruising above the Pacific Ocean at Mach 0.84 when a crew member accidentally deployed the slats near the Aleutian Islands. The plane then encountered severe oscillations and made an emergency landing at Shemya Air Force Base in Shemya, Semichi Islands, Alaska, United States.
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Komentáře • 426

  • @franklee7708
    @franklee7708 Před 4 lety +47

    Thanks for recreating the history of MU583. I was passenger sitting at seat 31G with my then-girlfriend at 31H. She wasn't wearing seat belt and had her head slammed into the cabin above several times. Luckily I had mine on and was able to pin her down to the seat and against the window eventually. Otherwise, I wouldn't have my two kids and their mom today.

  • @TheTraveler976
    @TheTraveler976 Před 4 lety +278

    Wow Joshua you did it. My dad was passenger on this flight, I was 7 years old and recall my mom screaming in the phone asking my dad was he alright while he was in the Alaska. Thankfully he was but received a broken arm due to the severe oscillations. He told us it was like a wild uncontrollable roller coaster and chaos in the cabin, from the pictures I saw it was terrifying to say the least. It was sad as two people died and he knew one of them he was traveling with on business. He said people were tossed around like rag dolls. I dedicate this video to my dad Lamont J Williams 1951-1998.

    • @Kawaiigirl8898
      @Kawaiigirl8898 Před 4 lety +31

      My dad was also on that plane... I wasn't even born yet... Luckily he is alright though...

    • @cherripaterson6066
      @cherripaterson6066 Před 4 lety +7

      wow your dad was on that flight. i would have been terrified too. im glad your dad survived. ive been on many planes in my life. but sometimes i wonder if id fly again.

    • @alvaroakatico9188
      @alvaroakatico9188 Před 4 lety +8

      Cherri Patson You need to stop watching these videos if you’re ever to fly again. I’m done with flying, the only thing closer to an emergency in my house is if the cat attacks my little dogs.

    • @mofleh177
      @mofleh177 Před 4 lety +3

      @@alvaroakatico9188 I've been away from airplanes for quite sometime now, but sometimes I worry what if a stricken plane falls and crash on my house!!

    • @Dog.soldier1950
      @Dog.soldier1950 Před 4 lety +14

      The most danger on a flight is the trip to the airport

  • @ckookiemonster
    @ckookiemonster Před 3 lety +14

    My grandpa was on that flight. I remember my mom got the call to fly to Alaska to get him. And I will never forget seeing his face when he was in the hospital in LA. all bloddied up

    • @richardwells7347
      @richardwells7347 Před 2 lety +4

      wow!! I was actually stationed at Shemya AFB when this flight came in. We were tasked with clean up and assistance. The passengers were terrified. What a horrible sight. I had never seen seats and cabinets ripped out of an aircaft. That day horrifies me til this day and we talking 30yrs ltr. The ceilings were completely covered in blood. I absolutely never fly without wearing a seat belt.

    • @stevemc01
      @stevemc01 Před 11 měsíci

      @@richardwells7347 how fates intertwine tend to interest me...
      I hope your grandpa (ckookie) recovered from that incident many years ago and you too (richard).

  • @davidramirez199
    @davidramirez199 Před 4 lety +107

    I worked on that aircraft after that incident. A group of mechanics from the company I was working for, went along with Medonald Douglas technicians to make sure the aircraft was airworthy to fly again.In short, I had never seen so much blood from people being thrown against the ceiling.It definitely made me a believer of using seat belts.

  • @michaelallen1396
    @michaelallen1396 Před 4 lety +10

    I boarded this aircraft to let the caterers de-cater the aircraft in LAX on it's way to Douglas Aircraft- I have never forgotten what I saw, 20 rows of smashed seats and ceiling missing where people were flung into it, I always keep my seat belts securely fastened on any aircraft in flight because of it. I have a deck of cards from this very aircraft still. From what I heard the FO or Captain bumped the flap handle and the slats deployed, it wasn't spontaneous but I haven't read the NTSB report on it.

  • @steveturner3999
    @steveturner3999 Před 4 lety +14

    I swear the voice that warns when the autopilot disengages is the same one from the original Star Trek TV series.

    • @alexp3752
      @alexp3752 Před 4 lety +9

      You are correct! The voice from the aircraft warning system is the late Majel Barrett, wife of Star Trek creator Gene Roddenberry. Her voice is used in many flight computer systems even up to today.

    • @essencetoney933
      @essencetoney933 Před 4 lety +2

      Never knew that.

  • @flipnap2112
    @flipnap2112 Před 4 lety +52

    man.. that must've been one scary flight.. the entire ceiling of the passenger cabin was destroyed.. imagine all the bodies slamming into it.. never take your seat belts off

    • @flipnap2112
      @flipnap2112 Před 4 lety +11

      @Carpet Hooligan well honestly, its one of those things that nobody pays much attention to.. but most flights ive had the captain says "leave your seatbelts on if sitting in your seat". turning off the seatbelt sign is saying "you can get up to use the bathroom, etc..." its not til situations like this that people realize why.. shame but it happens from time to time..

    • @whyyeseyec
      @whyyeseyec Před 4 lety +5

      Even those passengers who do wear a seat belt throughout the flight run the risk of getting slammed by flying bodies of those who do not keep belted.

    • @craftpaint1644
      @craftpaint1644 Před 3 lety +1

      You can still be hit by "missiles" - flying objects in the cabin 😐

    • @karend1577
      @karend1577 Před 2 lety +1

      A recent comment from someone stationed at the AFB said that the cabinets and seats were ripped out. The ceilings covered in blood.

  • @user-ct8my8rv9c
    @user-ct8my8rv9c Před 4 lety +162

    Always keep your seatbelt on even when the seatbelt light goes out..

    • @Cthight
      @Cthight Před 4 lety +17

      I always do even when i sleep in a 11 hours flight i wear my seatbelt. I would not recommend to wait outside of the lavatory until its free.

    • @suekelley2109
      @suekelley2109 Před 4 lety +22

      I never take mine off unless I’m going to the facilities. Too many instances of “unexpected turbulence, folks!”

    • @starknight_yx7556
      @starknight_yx7556 Před 4 lety +3

      This is back in the 90s...
      Most CES flights kept the seat belt sign on the whole flight after this incident and several accounts of passenger injury caused by turbulence(most ppl ignored with it tho)

    • @trevmac8362
      @trevmac8362 Před 4 lety +2

      @America Reigns lol - u sarcastic bastard

    • @norm2923
      @norm2923 Před 4 lety

      Thanks Mom

  • @gomphrena-beautifulflower-8043

    Glad that the airlines gave a slat and fixed this anomaly.
    Even better, everyone survived! Sorry they were sick and injured. Always sooo relieved to see any stricken plane get on the ground.
    Great job, Allec!
    (Late edit: I’ve been informed by an astute reader that two passengers ultimately did not survive. May they RIP😥)

    • @IIMoses740II
      @IIMoses740II Před 4 lety +23

      Unfortunately, Wikipedia and other articles state that two of the passengers *didn't* survive their injuries.

    • @kirilmihaylov1934
      @kirilmihaylov1934 Před 4 lety +5

      @@IIMoses740II interesting....

    • @gomphrena-beautifulflower-8043
      @gomphrena-beautifulflower-8043 Před 4 lety +13

      Screeching Possum • Oh, dear. I’ll amend my entry right away.😥
      Thanks for the heads-up.

    • @gomphrena-beautifulflower-8043
      @gomphrena-beautifulflower-8043 Před 4 lety +2

      Trent Malone • Thx Trent😉

    • @alvaroakatico9188
      @alvaroakatico9188 Před 4 lety +2

      Screeching Possum So you’re the astute reader, always wondered what they looked like in real life.

  • @joelfelan8054
    @joelfelan8054 Před 4 lety +15

    That music clip you play @ the end while more details scrawl on screen is haunting. Gets me every time. Especially when fatalities occur.

  • @earlmac8402
    @earlmac8402 Před 4 lety +15

    I flew China Eastern flight 583 to Los Angeles this year. I’m glad I saw this video after my flight.

    • @leesantos9711
      @leesantos9711 Před 4 lety +2

      👍👍👍😎

    • @redwingsfan3621
      @redwingsfan3621 Před 4 lety

      Earl Mac I’m surprised they kept the flight number since two people apparently died from their injuries.

    • @earlmac8402
      @earlmac8402 Před 4 lety

      Redwingsfan well, it is China. Maybe they are not concerned.

  • @guitarjed
    @guitarjed Před 4 lety +11

    The DC-10 and MD-11 Always seemed to have problems, glad i never flew on one.

  • @hogansavoy6525
    @hogansavoy6525 Před 4 lety +56

    According to Wikipedia...
    60 passengers and crew were hospitalized.
    2 died as a result of their injuries.

  • @lewisyeung8911
    @lewisyeung8911 Před 4 lety +2

    Btw, the captain name is Liu Jianping who was sleeping in the cabin that time. The engineer named Liu Lianxing. But the First Officer name unknown.
    One of the passenger named Ge Shaojun who had been the pilot of Chinese Air Force. Actually in that time, passengers were filling the landing card. But suddenly the plane started nose up and down. The captain was hurt his hand, for trying to go into the cockpit.
    The steward, Wang Yaping, was trying to say something, but she can't get the phone cause the plane lost of weight.
    Then this plane landed safely with many US soldiers carrying the torchlight on the runway to guide the plane land.

    • @lewisyeung8911
      @lewisyeung8911 Před 4 lety +1

      The most of passengers didn't fasten the seat belts that time. So too many people hurt.

  • @nitramluap
    @nitramluap Před 4 lety +26

    “You’re holding it wrong” - McDonnell Douglas

  • @andrewk2996
    @andrewk2996 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Your recreation videos are the best Allec the work you put into them is much appreciated, thanks

  • @kinghill4030
    @kinghill4030 Před 4 lety +11

    I've watched a lot of your video's, very well done. I am an old Airline Captain and have learned from these video's so thank you!

    • @alexp3752
      @alexp3752 Před 4 lety +2

      Me too... MD-11 PIC and former resident rep at DAC in Long Beach. Douglas built excellent aircraft bar none. We actually cried when Boeing and Douglas merged.

  • @aflacduckquack
    @aflacduckquack Před 4 lety +27

    Well-presented, Allec. Thank you. You make it easy to get into the story with your vids... keep up the great work-! :)

    • @K1OIK
      @K1OIK Před 4 lety

      What did you do with the time you saved not typing eo?

  • @frankk3880
    @frankk3880 Před 4 lety +17

    You have gotta love the dramatic music. So appropriate. Love it ❣

    • @lusmas99
      @lusmas99 Před 4 lety

      It sounds very similar to Queen's "Who wants to live forever".

  • @sarahalbers5555
    @sarahalbers5555 Před 4 lety +1

    Friday happy hour with Allec and the crew! Really great job!

  • @ShroomKeppie
    @ShroomKeppie Před 4 lety +22

    This had to be the flight that inspired Michael Crichton's novel "Airframe". All the elements are there. A great read.

    • @JETZcorp
      @JETZcorp Před 3 lety +8

      It is indeed! Crichton had been curious about commercial airplane manufacturing, and was visiting McDonnell Douglas and interviewing the engineers during the time they were investigating this incident. Once you know the background and re-read the book it's really extremely uncanny how little he actually changed to turn McDonnell Douglas into Norton for his story. Everything about Norton - their approach to design, analysis of incidents, financial position in the 1990s, and even feverish paranoia about Airbus, is just swiped directly from what Crichton must have seen during his time at MDD. Reading the book, you can practically TASTE the salt about what happened to the DC-10 in the media. One can only imagine the rants and raves the engineers at MDD must have provided on that topic, and they were absolutely terrified that the MD-11 slats thing would lead to another round of bad press.

    • @burnitdown5828
      @burnitdown5828 Před 2 lety

      So he wrote Jurassic Park and a novel on a plane crash? Cool

  • @leamerrill3618
    @leamerrill3618 Před 4 lety +1

    Thank God for wonderful pilots!! These people that fly airplanes are angels as far as I’m concerned. They all are extremely intelligent, amazingly good at troubleshooting and my respect and admiration is beyond words for them, all of them.

  • @rolandleap1
    @rolandleap1 Před 3 lety +4

    Every time I read that the plane is "over the ocean" I instantly get both worried and interested at the same time. Makes the storyline all the more interesting.

  • @xnopyt13
    @xnopyt13 Před 4 lety +1

    Jus saw an article about it and you posted this. Nice

  • @JoshuasPHXAviation
    @JoshuasPHXAviation Před 4 lety +3

    Awesome video Allec!👍👍

  • @DanielMaverick
    @DanielMaverick Před 4 lety +12

    Hands down, one of the best channels in CZcams

  • @neilherrera5497
    @neilherrera5497 Před 4 lety +1

    Great video Allec Joshua Ibay.

  • @heronumbertwo3171
    @heronumbertwo3171 Před 4 lety

    Allec's animation is so good!

  • @deborahwhite3589
    @deborahwhite3589 Před 8 měsíci

    I was on this flight. I was 3-months pregnant. I almost lost my sweet baby girl. I was in the hospital over a week. The accident happened on Tuesday, April 6th, 1993. It took until July 11th, 1995 to find a doctor to believe me that something was wrong with my neck. C4, C5 & C6 were broken in half and had to be removed and a piece of my hip was inserted in place. And then 6-weeks later that graph fell out and I had to have emergency surgery. The bone graph was put back in with a plate. & screws. I woke up 3-days later on a ventilator due to complications. A week into my stay I was found choking on my vomit due to a grand-mail seizure. I live with daily pain. My life has never been the same.

  • @Blast6926
    @Blast6926 Před 4 lety +1

    High Quality Video! thank you!

  • @tedster405
    @tedster405 Před 4 lety +5

    I was working at ZAN ARTCC CWSU when this happened. It was initially thought to be a severe to extrm turbulence event

  • @MultiCappie
    @MultiCappie Před 4 lety +5

    I think during the editing, Josh may have forgotten the slide that mentions the two fatalities, as he did title the video correctly.

  • @liamb8644
    @liamb8644 Před 4 lety +4

    Am I the only one who gets so excited when you realise it was posted only a few hours ago and therefore it’s a new crash you’re about to learn about? Weird me I guess. Lol

  • @georgie3
    @georgie3 Před 4 lety

    Very good video, Allec, and also educational. It seems unusual to me (model aircraft and quadcopter pilot :) that the MD-11 elevator would by design be too weak to counteract pitch moment from the slats.

  • @ajp4860
    @ajp4860 Před 4 lety +5

    We should all count our blessings for having survived commercial flight in the early days.
    Even well into the 90’s.
    Design flaws.
    Now we have software and automation flaws.

  • @carolmorris404
    @carolmorris404 Před 4 lety

    Thank you Allec. I must be honest, I am a hardend air flight passenger but just watching what the crew in the cockpit were dealing with made me feel ill. Either the plane must go up or straight down but please don't let me have to cope with both situations. So pleased everyone survived but we don't know how many needed counseling after the flight.

    • @ellenorbjornsdottir1166
      @ellenorbjornsdottir1166 Před 4 lety

      2 died apparently, one on the plane from injuries & heart failure and one just from injuries off the plane.

  • @SSN515
    @SSN515 Před 4 lety +32

    And now there is currently a 3 man flight crew breaking down big rocks into little rocks in a Chicom Reeducation Gulag.

    • @shariys1
      @shariys1 Před 4 lety +2

      😂😂😂🤣

    • @perfectscotty
      @perfectscotty Před 4 lety +3

      Lol

    • @malinstella6965
      @malinstella6965 Před 4 lety +3

      It's morning where I am just spilled my 1st cup of joe all over my keyboard.

    • @suekelley2109
      @suekelley2109 Před 4 lety +2

      Not to mention the 5 other pilots on board!

    • @MultiCappie
      @MultiCappie Před 4 lety +1

      @@suekelley2109 They were probably sleeping, but in any case, they were off-shift. It's somewhere between 12 and 13 hours from Shanghai to L.A.

  • @mingta5
    @mingta5 Před 4 lety

    great video !

  • @fliegenistdassicherste8828

    I knew about before. Cool video about an accident with fatalies but no hull loss, but repair of the affected. This combo is rare

  • @rezarastak8067
    @rezarastak8067 Před 4 lety +51

    How many pilots do you want in one plane?
    China eastern airlines: Yes

    • @alvaroakatico9188
      @alvaroakatico9188 Před 4 lety +3

      June H. There’s a rule on social media not to use back to back abbreviations because it cheapens their meanings, furthermore, you don’t even have a complete sentence. You have problems June, and consider this a warning. Next time it won’t be pretty, so please try to refrain.

    • @ppal64
      @ppal64 Před 4 lety

      Alvaro aka Tico po ah

    • @oliviajanzkordell4491
      @oliviajanzkordell4491 Před 4 lety

      @@alvaroakatico9188 >>>>>>>>>> pedant !! ! !!

    • @stanislavkostarnov2157
      @stanislavkostarnov2157 Před 4 lety +1

      @@alvaroakatico9188 sorry, but I think its you who has the problem... better see some psychologist or someone about that aggression. no real damage done here, but it can lead to some really bad stuff, it can mess up your life... (I know from experience)
      PS
      not a particular fan of these abbreviations, but I've never heard about this rule you talk about... as far as I am concerned its a slang, a question of style; if you use them morphologically/syntactically correctly, in an appropriate place (which a CZcams chat is) you can make your whole comment out of abbreviations, and do so like a virtuoso.
      YtCm abbr. w/o abbr. tbh SOP. YT is YT TI/LI... is as valid as saying 'CZcams comment abbreviations, to be honest its someone else's problem, CZcams is CZcams , take it or leave it...' (accept that probably I got the abbreviation wrong since this is not MY style)

    • @alexp3752
      @alexp3752 Před 4 lety

      I used to twain Chinese pie-wots on the MD-80. Most were former Taiwanese Air Force pie-wots and not very good for commercial aircraft.

  • @joseguzman6542
    @joseguzman6542 Před 4 lety

    What beautiful music at the end

  • @MADmosche
    @MADmosche Před 4 lety +39

    There is a great book, “Airframe” by Michael Crichton, about this exact type of slat-induced loss of control on aircraft. Highly recommended if you’re into this stuff!

    • @hogansavoy6525
      @hogansavoy6525 Před 4 lety +3

      Great book!!!

    • @highlypolishedturd7947
      @highlypolishedturd7947 Před 4 lety +5

      I thought of that too. I wonder if the author got the idea from this flight?

    • @kyjohn999
      @kyjohn999 Před 4 lety +3

      He did, at least partly. The other inspiration was Aeroflot 593, where the pilot let his kids fly the aircraft.

    • @highlypolishedturd7947
      @highlypolishedturd7947 Před 4 lety

      @@kyjohn999 Yes I'd thought of that too. I feel sorry for the boy in the pilot's seat. I wonder if his last thoughts were to think that he screwed up and got everyone killed.

    • @hogansavoy6525
      @hogansavoy6525 Před 4 lety +2

      @@highlypolishedturd7947 ...
      Crichton opened the novel with an account of this very crash.

  • @markstasz2887
    @markstasz2887 Před 4 lety +3

    Damn deadly gremlins. One tried to bring down a plane that a young Captain J.T. Kirk was a passenger on years ago back in the 60's I think. Ugly hairy beast almost succeeded too.And people thought Captain Kirk had lost his mind. No way.

  • @kiwiandrew
    @kiwiandrew Před 4 lety +45

    I was surprised that there was a Flight Engineer in the cockpit. I've never heard of one on an MD-11 before ?

    • @highlypolishedturd7947
      @highlypolishedturd7947 Před 4 lety +12

      I was wondering about that too... I thought the redesign from DC10 to MD11 eliminated the Flight Engineer.

    • @nzk86384
      @nzk86384 Před 4 lety +16

      In a DC-10,there is a Flight Engineer position, but in an MD-11, there shouldn't be one. This plane must have been upgraded from a DC-10 to an MD-11, but the FE position might have not been removed

    • @able_archer01
      @able_archer01 Před 4 lety +30

      @@nzk86384 If it was retrofited from an DC-10, it would have been re-designation to MD-10. The retrofit included an upgraded cockpit used on the MD-11 which would eliminate the need for the flight engineer position to allow common type rating with the MD-11. Plus, the aircraft operating as Flight 583 appears to have the distinct winglets used on the MD-11, which wasn't part of the MD-10 retrofit package. I'm guessing the Flight Engineer was a "jumpseater".

    • @moriver3857
      @moriver3857 Před 4 lety +13

      The FE position could have been a customer option. There was a time tha some Canadian airlines ordered the 767 with an FE position, so it's feasible this MD-11 had a flight engineer.

    • @RubenThomas
      @RubenThomas Před 4 lety

      @@able_archer01 That's what I was also thinking.

  • @BigfistJP
    @BigfistJP Před 4 lety +10

    I enjoy these videos, but as a layman, I get lost in all of the terminology of some of the videos. I expect pilots might enjoy those ones much better than I.

    • @MothaLuva
      @MothaLuva Před 4 lety +2

      Just ask what would you like to know...

    • @Milesco
      @Milesco Před 4 lety +1

      ​@@MothaLuva (and HKA) : I think sometimes the scenarios are not well explained. For example, at 6:09 it says "The extension of the outboard slats will result in a loss of lift."
      Well, the whole purpose of slats is to _increase_ lift, so right off the bat that doesn't make sense.
      But there's more: At 6:16 it says the design of the MD-11 will have the tendency to pitch the nose up (presumably when the outboard slats are extended).
      At 6:38 it says "The autoslat automatically extends the outboard slats when the airplane is in a stall..." Which would normally make sense, but the video previously said that "The extension of the outboard slats will result in a loss of lift." When you're in a stall condition, you need _more_ lift, not less. Furthermore, the video said that the extension of the outboard slats tended to cause the plane to pitch nose up, which is the _opposite_ of what you want if you are in a stall.

  • @kend3900
    @kend3900 Před 4 lety +2

    Great video makes you wonder why it took so long to get that redesign on the control handle

  • @steve-marsh
    @steve-marsh Před 3 lety +1

    Clearly planes need a ‘reset all’ button!

  • @nicholasbutler153
    @nicholasbutler153 Před 4 lety +9

    Unfortunately it wasn't the case that everyone survived.

    • @MultiCappie
      @MultiCappie Před 4 lety

      I think during the editing, Josh may have forgotten one slide, as he did title the video correctly.

  • @ryankenyon5010
    @ryankenyon5010 Před 4 lety +3

    Great video, as always! You couldn't pay me to get on an MD-11.

    • @shariys1
      @shariys1 Před 4 lety +1

      A DC10 by any other name ... 😕😨😱

  • @jackkitchen737
    @jackkitchen737 Před 4 lety +3

    China Eastern Airlines Flight 583 still flies this same route today. In fact, one will be landing in a couple of hours at LAX. Trivial, I know. But I found it interesting.

  • @CivilDefenseSoutherner
    @CivilDefenseSoutherner Před 4 lety +1

    Super scary to encounter something like this, especially at night!

  • @adriendiaz739
    @adriendiaz739 Před 4 lety +5

    I live in Adak and us very close to Shemya And i heard about this from the people there

  • @MyzelleJenkins
    @MyzelleJenkins Před 4 lety +6

    In a addition to the 2 fatalities, 1 passenger was paralyzed & one of the flight attendants received ‘severe’ brain damage. (NTSB)

  • @Gusrikh1
    @Gusrikh1 Před 4 lety

    Always interesting..

  • @JM-lw3nx
    @JM-lw3nx Před 4 lety

    I'm fascinated by planes.

  • @kirilmihaylov1934
    @kirilmihaylov1934 Před 4 lety +3

    This could ve been much much worse.... somebody deployed the slats in flight....at Mach speed 0.84 this is very very dangerous.....

  • @Amtran727
    @Amtran727 Před 4 lety +1

    Allec, can you please make a video on the crash of Southern Airways flight 242 in 1977? Thanks!

  • @mikeyd946
    @mikeyd946 Před 4 lety

    That’s so scary. I am glad nothing worse happened and that they landed safely. 🙏

  • @BK-qp8zp
    @BK-qp8zp Před 4 lety

    Good job that the pilots got the plane safely on the ground as soon as possible.

  • @kengrantham4176
    @kengrantham4176 Před 4 lety +7

    Starting at 5:18, I did not understand anything. I didn’t see any strong turbulences that caused so many injuries? When the plane landed, it looked normal. I’m confused...what am I missing?

    • @kevcapellan6066
      @kevcapellan6066 Před 4 lety +7

      I believe Injuries were caused by the plane the plane pitching up and down multiple times as it says,looks smooth in the video but real life most have been rough. Food cart loose or even luggage could cause serious harm.

    • @kengrantham4176
      @kengrantham4176 Před 4 lety +3

      Kev Capellan, Thanks for your reply. Sounds logical now

    • @donmoore7785
      @donmoore7785 Před 4 lety +1

      @Gary McMichael You are asking too much of this video. If people can not imagine what happens when an aircraft abruptly pitches up and down, that is their problem. The main purpose is to get to the cause of what caused the incident.

  • @KathrynsWorldWildfireTracking

    Holy hell! They were taken on Mr. Toad's Wild Ride.

    • @bradmccullough8240
      @bradmccullough8240 Před 4 lety

      Based on what happened during the flight, it made Mr Toads wild ride seem like a leisurely Sunday afternoon drive

  • @richardnagarjunasuryaprase2010

    MU583 is captain Liu jian ping (刘建平)and Flight engineer Liu lian xing (刘连兴)

  • @leighjacobs4800
    @leighjacobs4800 Před 4 lety

    Damn. I was on 583 in 2000. Never knew abut this incident.

  • @seanmcerlean
    @seanmcerlean Před 4 lety +2

    Great videos from you,just a little feedback,please try to avoid writing in white on a light blue or white background as it is a littlw hard to readGreat work though

  • @highlypolishedturd7947
    @highlypolishedturd7947 Před 4 lety +12

    It seems to me that the demons haunting the DC-10 were alive and well in the MD-11.

    • @MultiCappie
      @MultiCappie Před 4 lety +2

      Yeah, that frame's titters and lurches are probably what killed Douglas. They rushed it to market originally (as the DC-10) to pre-empt the widely superiorly considered L1011, but then the Airbus A300 twin emerged to steal the shorter range widebody market, and somehow even by the time of MD-11 re-brand, Douglas still didn't have things comprehensively on-track.
      I think it was managerial generational turnover around the time of the DC-9, with the new guys thinking "this is easy."
      Kindof the same thing I see in Boeing after the 777, tbh.

    • @highlypolishedturd7947
      @highlypolishedturd7947 Před 4 lety +1

      @@MultiCappie You make a good point. Many companies, across many industries, have been ruined by the new guys thinking this is easy.

    • @alexp3752
      @alexp3752 Před 4 lety +2

      @@MultiCappie With respect, you are incorrect. Both the DC-10 and MD-11 were excellent aircraft as I few both types. In any new aircraft introduction, problems in service develop, and airlines meet twice a year with themselves, regulators, Douglas/Boeing engineers and other teams to learn and share fixes. They were called "Team Conferences", and almost every operator sent 2-3 executives to attend. They were amazing and informative sessions. The problem Douglas had is they faced a board of directors that would not spend the necessary funds for later aircraft designs. Believe me, I watched Douglas aircraft built almost daily, and in my opinion their quality was far superior to Boeing in many areas. Douglas was like a large family in Long Beach. My best friend's father was a friend of Donald Douglas, Sr. and many other notable visionaries. Douglas had wonderful people whose first priorities included quality and safety. Again, I knew them well.

  • @hughbassoon
    @hughbassoon Před 4 lety

    Sorry....I will comment in the private comment section in the future. Thanks for info on flaps and slats

  • @leezinke4351
    @leezinke4351 Před 4 lety +1

    Wow that is scary!

  • @patriciamariemitchel
    @patriciamariemitchel Před 4 lety +12

    Didn't an Airbus have a similar roller coaster ride where someone put their head through the ceiling?

    • @nzk86384
      @nzk86384 Před 4 lety +4

      QF72

    • @patriciamariemitchel
      @patriciamariemitchel Před 4 lety +1

      @@nzk86384, thanks. I don't know how I could forget the other Sully... and both Airbuses. One great for gliding; the other gone rogue.😶

  • @robertyoung1293
    @robertyoung1293 Před 4 lety +8

    Rather scary when you consider the number of DC-10/MD-11 aircraft are featured in these videos.

    • @davidca96
      @davidca96 Před 4 lety +1

      DC-10 issues were fixed and it actually became one of the safest planes after this. Its tough to overcome that stigma though with so many crashes in its beginning, although several were not the fault of the plane and were the airlines fault.

  • @jackkitchen737
    @jackkitchen737 Před 4 lety +6

    I missed something here. How did the pilots get control of the aircraft? One minute they're oscillating in uncontrolled fashion, and the next minute they're landing without any problems.

    • @kyoakland
      @kyoakland Před 4 lety +2

      I'm with u buddy didn't get it

    • @daveg2104
      @daveg2104 Před 4 lety +1

      @@kyoakland There was actually nothing wrong with the aircraft, other than the leading edge slats deploying (possibly because the captain nudged the handle). Once the slats cycled through to retracted, the aircraft flew normally, and the crew were able to land safely. Because this problem was something that had happened too many times on this aircraft type, the slat system was modified.

  • @sandrawehrley4212
    @sandrawehrley4212 Před 4 lety +1

    I think the title was a bit misleading but it was a good video. Thank you

  • @cameraman655
    @cameraman655 Před 4 lety

    Let's see the Capt has 8,535 flying hours 0:24, the FO has 9,714 flying hours 0:38 and the FE has 9,892 (on an MD11?) 0:45 . Is this not a bit odd that junior officers have more flying hours that the Captain, or is how they do it in China? I am not trying to disparage the creator of this well-done video, it just seems to me that the discrepancies in the flying hours between the three flight deck personnel are a bit odd.

  • @lucianoluciano9091
    @lucianoluciano9091 Před 4 lety +1

    Allec joshua ! Faz um video da simulacao do acidente do TUPOLEV TU -154 da CUBANA DE AVIACION que aconteceu em 06/8/1998 ;que o tupolev levantou voou mais caiu sobre predios e um campo de futebol .

  • @Sania23000
    @Sania23000 Před 2 měsíci

    Flight 583 will be featured in the new season 25 series of air crash investigation

  • @austinteutsch
    @austinteutsch Před 4 lety

    Hey Mr. V.P, this plane just might cause a fuck up, so let's fit it to be a cargo plane so we don't kill a lot of people if it crashes, just 2 or 3.

  • @_.souvy____
    @_.souvy____ Před 4 lety

    Nyc vdo but make a video of the 2 737 max crashes

  • @libertyliberal4349
    @libertyliberal4349 Před 4 lety +3

    This video was a bit confusing.
    1) Why wasn't the surviving pilots interviewed about what happened? It seems like everything was guess work from the NTSB?
    2) The data problems weren't mentioned in the recreation.
    3) The information about the data problems were not described as one continuous event, instead it was broken up into two separate pieces (piece one: data problems and mentioning a computer piece two the Capt is trying to use the computer) which made it very weird.
    4) You could have animated the Captains inputs so we can see how close he was to the slats handle.

    • @donmoore7785
      @donmoore7785 Před 4 lety +1

      Here's an idea - you can create your own videos, and manage them as you see fit. Then you will never be disappointed.

  • @monabiehl6213
    @monabiehl6213 Před 4 lety +1

    Sounds like Michael Critchen's "Airframe."

  • @MultiCappie
    @MultiCappie Před 4 lety

    That frame's titters and lurches are probably what killed Douglas. They rushed it to market originally (as the DC-10) to pre-empt the widely superiorly considered L1011, but then the Airbus A300 twin emerged to steal the shorter range widebody market, and somehow even by the time of MD-11 re-brand, Douglas still didn't have things comprehensively on-track.
    I think it was managerial generational turnover around the time of the DC-9, with the new guys thinking "this is easy."
    Kindof the same thing I see in Boeing after the 777 and the move to Chicago, tbh. "Fly-by-shorterm-shareholder-value" I like to call it.

  • @Nathanator
    @Nathanator Před 4 lety +1

    Are you planning to switch to FS2020 when it comes out in 2020, or will you stay with FS2004?

  • @Broadica
    @Broadica Před 4 lety +7

    I want to know more about the extent of "serious injuries" due to turbulence...
    Was this with the passengers ordered to buckle in? And if so, how mitigated were the injuries by the restraints?

    • @wickedroller
      @wickedroller Před 4 lety

      I was wondering the same thing. I can imagine a few people and flight attendants thrown around a little but 99% of people should be in seats buckled up.

    • @jr13227
      @jr13227 Před 4 lety

      Did you see that cabin? I’m sure bags fell out of overhead compartments, not to mention if it happens all of a sudden people are up and moving especially during meal service.

    • @Broadica
      @Broadica Před 4 lety +1

      Ah see I didn't even consider the luggage overhead spewing forth it's contents into the cabin.
      Maybe the new flight simulator will have actual passenger models so we can see that perspective in these videos.

    • @drkatel
      @drkatel Před 4 lety

      I understand how injuries happened. I was in an incident (far less severe than this) that resulted in ten injuries. The beverage cart was lifted and injured people. If your seatbelt wasn't tight enough, you struck the overhead. Any loose passenger items went airborne. Passengers on one side of the plane were soaked by all the drinks that went flying.
      Make sure your seatbelt is as tight as you can tolerate it.

    • @starknight_yx7556
      @starknight_yx7556 Před 4 lety

      Broadica Well, since this is half way thru a trans pacific flight (which is technically 6 hrs into the flight, and the outside is dark), many decided to sleep without fastening seat belts. And then this happened, well...yeah.

  • @austinteutsch
    @austinteutsch Před 4 lety

    Planes utilizing computers and auto pilots should always be fitted with a master control where the pilot can shut down the plane and use all manual controls like the old days. That way He or She has complete control of the plane despite any mechanical failure. IMO.

  • @even1007
    @even1007 Před 3 lety

    What a wonderful thing that human beings coexist peacefully and help each other. Why let prejudice and politics distort our kind heart。It is not easy for everyone to live well!.I wish you all a new start in 2021!
    PS: Late.... Mu583 flight was replaced with Airbus A340-600, and it collided with a Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777 aircraft at the PVG airport on August 9, 2012. This aircraft was the missing MH-370 (Official number:9M-MRO).!em.0.0.0.....

  • @kyoakland
    @kyoakland Před 4 lety

    That must of been a hella of a ride

  • @0error.389
    @0error.389 Před 4 lety +8

    Why did the pilot not turn off autopilot when the stick shaker and flap over speed warning activated

    • @wilburfinnigan2142
      @wilburfinnigan2142 Před 4 lety +7

      @Gary McMichael Same reason the 2 pilots did not turn off the MCAS on the 737Max crashes !!!!! Poor training !!!!!!

    • @rrknl5187
      @rrknl5187 Před 4 lety +2

      Because he was an idiot and didn't know how to hand-fly?????

    • @malcolm20091000
      @malcolm20091000 Před 4 lety

      I'm thinking that he turned/kept the autopilot on as it might more accurately reduce the porpoising that was going on, that is, would be less reactive and more proactive than human hands on the controls. Just speculation, however.

    • @rrknl5187
      @rrknl5187 Před 4 lety

      @@malcolm20091000 I see your point but as a pilot, when the autopilot is flying and anything abnormal happens, I will always assume that it has failed and I'll turn it off and hand-fly.
      I stay current and my training and experience will allow mr to control the plane based on what my eyes see, whether by visual or by instruments. I don't know what the autopilot 'sees' but it's obvious that it is not reacting properly so I will take over control from it.

    • @terryofford4977
      @terryofford4977 Před 4 lety

      @@wilburfinnigan2142 Poor training coupled with the insane desire to AUTOMATE every goddamned thing that flies.Much a case of ' Think of the Money its costing us (The AIrline that is). Automation is cheaper, however, after a lifetime in Air Traffic Control the last ten years working was enough to bring on Dozens of OMG's , what next.? I can imagine Pilotless aircraft with a Soft drink and Sandwich machine in place of Cabin Crews....think how much that would save the airlines.

  • @ericbernardo7941
    @ericbernardo7941 Před 4 lety +2

    There were two people that were killed

  • @tungstenkid2271
    @tungstenkid2271 Před 4 lety

    Lots of injuries, presumably they flew up into the roof when the aircraft pitched down, "vomit comet" style..If ever I fly in an airliner I think i'll keep my seat belt fastened for the whole flight.

  • @XalphYT
    @XalphYT Před 4 lety +1

    4:02 Were they making the diversion because of an injured passenger, not a sick one? This is a big difference.

  • @MrLordwrecker
    @MrLordwrecker Před 4 lety

    This is where Boeing got the idea for the MCAS system. Lol not really. Btw in August 2014 it made its last commerical flight and landed in Santiago Chile.

  • @bambertthe803
    @bambertthe803 Před 3 lety

    Damage: Minor (unsubstantial)
    Airframe: Repaired

  • @trainman86trainstramsandmore

    Hi Alec can you do Cebu Pacific flight 398

  • @slidefirst694
    @slidefirst694 Před 4 lety +4

    Can't read it, can you use contrasting colors?

  • @alanpt795
    @alanpt795 Před 4 lety

    what a pitch dark video

  • @raidazz1
    @raidazz1 Před 4 lety

    Is it practice to leave the autopilot on when it's pitching up and diving??

  • @Plqnes
    @Plqnes Před 4 lety

    Wow

  • @edgarmunez183
    @edgarmunez183 Před 2 lety

    Falling From From The Sky | China Eastern Airlines Flight 5735

  • @robertbrook8552
    @robertbrook8552 Před 4 lety

    They got to ride in plane and roller coaster at the same time.

  • @iR-80
    @iR-80 Před 4 lety +3

    MD-11's don't have flight engineers
    DC-10's do

  • @groovechampion1462
    @groovechampion1462 Před 4 lety

    Funny how when i watch these videos i get commercials from travel agencies, telling me to buy plane tickets:)

  • @Shearwater6
    @Shearwater6 Před 4 lety

    “Did you bump the slat lever?!”..... nah, I didn’t..😳