Paul and the Resurrection of Israel with Jason Staples
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- This is a republished episode with Dr. Jason Staples. Staples recently published a new book called "Paul and the Resurrection of Israel: Jews, Former Gentiles, Israelites" (Cambridge University Press, 2023). In this episode, Jason shared many of the ideas that appear in the new book before it was published.
Jason Staples is Assistant Teaching Professor in the Department of Philosophy and Religious Studies at NC State University. He’s the author of two books, The Idea of Israel in Second Temple Judaism, published with Cambridge University Press in 2021, and Paul and the Resurrection of Israel, which will come out next year, also with Cambridge University press. He also has worked in sports media for fifteen years, used to coach football, and does voiceover work to ensure his family can survive, and he will be launching the BiblePod podcast in the next few months.
Jason discusses the difference between Ισραήλ (Israel) and Ἰουδαῖος (Jew) and how it relates to difficult texts like Romans 2:13, Romans 9:19-22, and Romans 11:25-26.
Show notes:
- "The Idea of Israel in Second Temple Judaism: A New Theory of People, Exile, and Israelite Identity" (Cambridge University Press, 2021): www.cambridge....
- "Paul and the Resurrection of Israel: Jews, Former Gentiles, Israelites" (Cambridge University Press, 2023): www.cambridge....
- "Vessels of Wrath and God’s Pathos: Potter/Clay Imagery in Rom 9:20-23": www.cambridge....
- "What Do the Gentiles Have to Do with "All Israel"? A Fresh Look at Romans 11:25-27": static1.square...
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Just ordered this book and can’t wait to receive it.
Nice! Hoping for more interviews w/Dr. Staples now that his big book on Paul is out
The issue every time Paul addresses circumcision is in regards to salvation! He never addresses circumcision as a non-salvific issue / as a sign of the covenant! If Abraham, the former pagan who converted and became, the father of the nation of Israel, was asked to receive the sign of circumcision as a sign of the covenant then, why wouldn’t the father require that of us all? Secondly, if our hearts are circumcised, and our father Abraham and our Messiah Yeshua was circumcised, isn’t it natural that we as the sons of Elohim would want to be circumcised as well? The last point I would like to make is, in the millennium those who are not physically circumcised in the flesh will not be allowed into Jerusalem to partake in the Passover! That alone tells the story regarding circumcision, and if it is a requirement, not for salvation, but for complete obedience! The bottom line, if the Torah is not done away with, then the sign of circumcision is not done away with!
One more point to be made, circumcision is an issue of being in the land of Israel. Moses did not circumcise the children that were born to those who came out of Egypt in the wilderness , Joshua circumcised them just before they went into the land the issue of circumcision is an issue of fulfilling all righteousness, like when our Messiah was baptized! We know that at the second coming those are in Messiah will be resurrected and made immortal, which is the true circumcision of the flesh. That being said, there will be those during the millennium who are mortal and still in a temporal body, in order for them to enter Jerusalem and the sacred space of the temple, they must be circumcised. For what it’s worth that’s my take on it.
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Romans Chapter 11: In its New Covenant context... There is no Plan B of salvation outside of the New Covenant Church in this passage. Plan A is found in verses 23 and 24.
In Romans 1:16 Paul said the Gospel was taken "first" to the Jews. This time period can be found in Matt. 10:5-7, and Acts 10:36-38, and Gal. 1:14-18. Many try to claim God never gave the Jews a chance to accept Christ, so there must be some Plan B of salvation before or during the Second Coming of Christ. Romans 1:16 proves they are wrong, since Paul said the Gospel went "first" to the Jews. Many ignore the fact that Peter addressed the crowd as "men of Judea", and as "men of Israel", and as "all the house of Israel" on the Day of Pentecost, when about 3,000 Israelites accepted the New Covenant fulfilled in blood at Calvary. The Gentiles were not grafted in until several years later. This passage proves Paul was right about the Gospel being taken "first" to the Jews.
Were all of the Israelites "partially" hardened in Romans 11, or were part hardened and another part were not hardened? The answer is found in the "remnant" of Romans 11:5.
Paul reveals two different groups of Israelites in Romans 9:6-8. There is an Israel of the promise, and an Israel of the flesh. This is part of the context of Romans 11.
Paul speaks about the "remnant" of Israel in Romans 9:27. This is also part of the context of Romans 11.
Paul starts Romans 11 with two different groups of Israelites. In verse one Paul reveals he is still an Israelite, even after his conversion. Then Paul refers to two different groups of Israelites during the time of Elijah. There were the Baal worshippers, and there was the faithful "remnant". In verse five Paul says there is also a faithful "remnant" of Israelites during his time. This must be the Israelites who have accepted Christ, as on the Day of Pentecost.
Paul uses the two olive trees as a symbol of the New Covenant Church made up of believing Israelites, and believing Gentiles grafted together into the same tree. The unbelieving Israelites have been broken off but can be grafted back in through faith in Christ in verses 23-24.
Verse 26 is the problem for many modern Christians. What does the verse actually say, and how is it changed by many in the modern Church.
I have heard two of our nations famous preachers say the following.
"And then all Israel will be saved..."
I have heard another say the following.
"And all Israel will be saved..."
What does God's Word, recorded by the Apostle Paul actually say?
Rom 11:26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
The English word "so" is translated from the Greek word "houto", which is an adverb of manner, instead of an adverb of timing. Some have changed the word from "so" to "then", in order to change the meaning of the verse.
How will all of the "remnant" of Israel from Romans 9:27 be saved? The answer is found in the verses that precede verse 26 and are found below.
Rom 11:23 And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be graffed in: for God is able to graff them in again.
Rom 11:24 For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert graffed contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be graffed into their own olive tree?
Paul quoted from the OT in referring to the Deliverer coming out of Sion to pay for sin. Did this happen at Calvary, or will Jesus die again for His people in the future?
Rom 11:27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
Verse 28 can only be understood by looking at how Paul started the passage. He started with two different groups of Israelites and he ends the passage in the same way. There are two different groups of "they" in verse 28. One group of "they" reject Christ and are the enemies of God, and another group of "they" are the election which accept Christ through hearing the Gospel and faith.
Rom 11:28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes.
Based on Luke 21:24b-28, the times of the Gentiles comes to fullness at the Second Coming of Christ. This agrees with what Paul said in Romans 1:16 about the Gospel going “first” to the Jews.
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Do you believe only the descendants of Judah, Benjamin, and Levi make aliya to Israel? What tribes make up the Orthodox Jews?
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