Where Manhattan’s grid plan came from

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  • Manhattan is famous for its grid - so famous that people take pictures of the way the sun shines through it. But the origin of that grid wasn’t always certain - and not everybody is a fan.
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    In this episode of Vox Almanac’s Road Trip edition, Phil Edwards explores the history of the New York City grid, with detours to Philadelphia, Savannah, and Washington, DC. Early city planning around the turn of the 19th century was a contentious and undecided discipline with lots of options and disagreement.
    New York City was particularly chaotic and unplanned at the time, after years of catering to developers and, at the same time, ignoring their requests for a more sane city plan. That made the introduction of a new plan in the 1800s a more urgent matter - and a reasonable time to introduce a plan that lacked many of the artistic flourishes of contemporary city plans.
    New York was all about building, and building fast - and it’s still that way today.
    Want to learn more? The two most helpful papers we found were these:
    “The grid as city plan: New York city and laissez‐faire planning in the nineteenth century” by Peter Marcuse and “The Greatest Grid: the New York Plan of 1811” by Edward K. Spann.
    You can also find copies of a lot of early maps of New York via the Library of Congress and New York Public Library.
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Komentáře • 707

  • @rtrdedn00b54
    @rtrdedn00b54 Před 5 lety +3906

    1800s: Let's build the City in rectangular shapes so it's easy and cheap.
    2019: Let's sell these easy and cheap appartments for several million dollars

    • @aturchomicz821
      @aturchomicz821 Před 5 lety +44

      r/collapse

    • @rbk2kpro
      @rbk2kpro Před 5 lety +190

      Housing used to be human right, now it's almost like a stock

    • @jonathanpichel4606
      @jonathanpichel4606 Před 5 lety +6

      @@rbk2kpro When

    • @rbk2kpro
      @rbk2kpro Před 5 lety +17

      @@jonathanpichel4606 I heard since the 80s

    • @naveygill1793
      @naveygill1793 Před 5 lety +23

      Ever heard of a thing called "supply & demand"?

  • @MikaelSitumorang
    @MikaelSitumorang Před 5 lety +4118

    *takes notes for my city in cities skylines*

    • @sebastiangebala9958
      @sebastiangebala9958 Před 5 lety +154

      Nooo dont do grids do rtgame style roads

    • @asdsdjfasdjxajiosdqw8791
      @asdsdjfasdjxajiosdqw8791 Před 5 lety +146

      American city design really shouldn't be looked at too much for inspiration. Perhaps only for how not to design something.

    • @rexdarr7874
      @rexdarr7874 Před 5 lety +84

      Gonna chime in, I usually do grids at first but as I branch out I create flowing roads with curves and swirls. The downtown area ends up being grids but then as you zoom out it looks more natural.
      Add two main freeways through your city (north/south and east/west), roundabouts, and road hierarchy to help with traffic flow.
      I'm by no means a guru at the game but I have every achievement on the Xbox version so I've put quite a few hours in.
      Hope it helps!

    • @IsThisRain
      @IsThisRain Před 5 lety +52

      The more curves, the better your city looks. I only use grids in the industrial and heavy commercial zones.

    • @rexdarr7874
      @rexdarr7874 Před 5 lety +28

      @@IsThisRain Real cities have curves!

  • @MommaDee23
    @MommaDee23 Před 5 lety +848

    I honestly wonder why your episodes feel unfinished...it always gives me the impression there's a part two to tie up the subject.

    • @rhythmandblues_alibi
      @rhythmandblues_alibi Před 4 lety +117

      I agree. Feels like it needs a little more effort to wrap up and make a meaningful conclusion.

    • @bored58
      @bored58 Před 4 lety +19

      Same

    • @stanmoroncini8825
      @stanmoroncini8825 Před 4 lety +42

      Lol seriously, it’s like when you have to write a 500 word essay and you’re at 502 word count hahaha

    • @frankieshane
      @frankieshane Před 4 lety +30

      i feel almost more perplexed at the end of most of his than i did when i started.
      at least it's not just me.

    • @charliedemottwildey8575
      @charliedemottwildey8575 Před 4 lety +38

      same, the video ends and I feel like I've been introduced to an interesting idea but I haven't learned anything about it.

  • @TheGreatCooLite
    @TheGreatCooLite Před 5 lety +2161

    These people were smart.
    They knew it would be difficult to build out a model of the city in Minecraft if it was made out of circles.

    • @aBitterMelon
      @aBitterMelon Před 5 lety +7

      LITERALLY BUILDING ONE RIGHT NOW

    • @vigilantcosmicpenguin8721
      @vigilantcosmicpenguin8721 Před 5 lety +13

      I would really love to see Manhattan in Minecraft.

    • @aBitterMelon
      @aBitterMelon Před 5 lety +6

      @@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721 Check out the most recent video on my channel! It's almost two years old and it's pretty outdated since I've built a lot since then, but I'm still proud of it! It's museum level accuracy.

    • @muhammadhafiz_h4
      @muhammadhafiz_h4 Před 5 lety +1

      dude you're everywhere

    • @aBitterMelon
      @aBitterMelon Před 5 lety +1

      ​@@muhammadhafiz_h4Really? I really don't see that

  • @zacharytaylor2983
    @zacharytaylor2983 Před 5 lety +256

    The ease of development wasn’t the only consideration, though.
    At the time (1807-1811) the circulation of fresh air was considered the best defense against disease outbreaks, which were commonplace in early 19th century cities.
    By drawing long straight streets directly perpendicular to the Rivers, the Commissioners proposed that the air circulation would prevent epidemics.
    They weren’t quite right, but the later development of skyscrapers turned those straight streets into wind tunnels.
    Anyone who’s been to New York in the winter knows just how serious that wind-chill index is. That winter wind cuts through all layers of clothes!

  • @fapeg
    @fapeg Před 5 lety +938

    02:07 funny to hear you talk about the chaotic design an irregularities .. I’m from Europe and this looks super organized 😄

    • @zakaryloreto6526
      @zakaryloreto6526 Před 5 lety +44

      fapeg this is unorganized for American standards I believe

    • @thekoalakingdomshow6319
      @thekoalakingdomshow6319 Před 5 lety +100

      European cities are more naturally constructed

    • @weetikissa
      @weetikissa Před 5 lety +34

      The Koala kingdom SHOW Both European and American cities were naturally constructed. They expanded because they had demand. It's not like either continent was creating huge ghost cities in the middle of nowhere like China. The only difference is that America had a very top-down approach whereas Europe was built from ground up.

    • @MexiboyKevin
      @MexiboyKevin Před 5 lety +63

      @@weetikissa I think what koala means is that the time for European cities to develop is far longer. Most cities have developed for 1000 years and not the 100 years american cities had. Planning was easier and as the Manhattan plan showed it was a lot easier to take the excisting city into account than it is with medieval cities in Europe

    • @neenimee
      @neenimee Před 5 lety +30

      As an European it was very strange seeing the rectangular streets of New York. I was traveling with a plane, landing at night and honestly, seeing all these rigorous street lines made me very uneasy, like if I saw a borg cube. I guess I'm too used to slow-grown radial cities.

  • @XpertPilotFSX
    @XpertPilotFSX Před 5 lety +1380

    2:06: "chaotic curved streets"
    *laughs and cries in Bangkok*

  • @AverytheCubanAmerican
    @AverytheCubanAmerican Před 5 lety +556

    I like learning more about urban planning, I’ve always been fascinated by it. Thank you for teaching me more about my neck of the woods

    • @BillKermanKSP
      @BillKermanKSP Před 5 lety +17

      You. Are. Everywhere but no one really notices i feel like xD

    • @petertraudes106
      @petertraudes106 Před 5 lety +3

      I can recomend Lewis Mumford: the city in history.

    • @Adamwrightjr
      @Adamwrightjr Před 5 lety +4

      I SEE U IN EVERY VID

    • @cesarfabiani7943
      @cesarfabiani7943 Před 5 lety +1

      Some cities are very interesting concerning urban planning such as barcelone, brasilia or kyoto

    • @petertraudes106
      @petertraudes106 Před 5 lety

      @@cesarfabiani7943 i visited all three cities you mentioned and the most peculiar of the three is Brasilia, a city built in the shape of an aeroplane. As for living conditions i would not want to live there. Too dry, too hot and, unlike other brasilian cities, too boring.

  • @huxley3043
    @huxley3043 Před 5 lety +252

    "chaotic curved streets"
    everywhere that isn't the us: 👀

  • @daviddima6067
    @daviddima6067 Před 5 lety +284

    vox: *talking about grids*
    me: *let me try this at cities skylines*

    • @9airpods917
      @9airpods917 Před 5 lety +14

      David Dima The whole city: grids, and *only* grids.

  • @PaulFerzoco
    @PaulFerzoco Před 5 lety +551

    But cities like Boston or London have greater charm and uniqueness but are a pain to navigate.

    • @elios2296
      @elios2296 Před 5 lety +97

      I guess you've never been in Rome or Venice

    • @1karl249
      @1karl249 Před 5 lety +48

      Plus Rome existed since 753bc and London 2000 year old

    • @PaulFerzoco
      @PaulFerzoco Před 5 lety

      @@elios2296 That is true!

    • @PaulFerzoco
      @PaulFerzoco Před 5 lety +6

      @@1karl249 I was not trying to denegrade London. But Boston is very similar.

    • @1karl249
      @1karl249 Před 5 lety +25

      @@PaulFerzocoI know lol i was just saying their old city's and not designed for modern times for car and massive population's

  • @napoleonibonaparte7198
    @napoleonibonaparte7198 Před 5 lety +358

    Those grids aren’t enough for Basic Services and Amenities in Cities Skylines...

    • @unfortunately_fortunate2000
      @unfortunately_fortunate2000 Před 5 lety +4

      gonna have to space's out a bit more and maybe add a circular road around the circumference of your city(ies) if you're look to emulate this.

    • @strider029
      @strider029 Před 5 lety +1

      And so is Manhattan.

  • @JamesBond-rb1ln
    @JamesBond-rb1ln Před 5 lety +200

    You should do a whole series on city design and formation!! My home city of Adelaide has a interesting history

    • @dementos7806
      @dementos7806 Před 5 lety +6

      James Bond That park around the city center is interesting.

    • @mitadarbari9142
      @mitadarbari9142 Před 5 lety +5

      How's the water situation there?

    • @JamesBond-rb1ln
      @JamesBond-rb1ln Před 5 lety +5

      Dementos The city centre inside the green space, was the original city. As the city grew the parks were intended to be left untouched and the city centre was intended to be one square mile exactly

    • @JamesBond-rb1ln
      @JamesBond-rb1ln Před 5 lety +4

      Mita Darbari we’re pretty good. Our water supply comes from several reservoirs both in the city and in the Adelaide hills nearby. We also can pump water from the River Murray (Australia’s largest river). We also have a desalination plant which is largely inactive, but can provide up to 30% of the cities water needs in a severe drought

    • @darthwalsh1
      @darthwalsh1 Před 5 lety +1

      Yes, I'd love to learn more about The Mighty Black Stump :D

  • @Slabfish
    @Slabfish Před 5 lety +21

    As a European who's been around in several NA grids... I hate it. I don't remember NYC much but it felt like an endless chore to walk down a street. LA has the horrible feeling urban sprawl, every intersection is the exact same with 4 different fast food restaurants facing one another. The nicest one i've been to is Toronto where it's irregular, and has frequent parks and car free spaces but still with these never ending roads.
    I like learning the layout of a European city, you never know what you might find and its irregularity is what makes it beautiful

    • @redditstop1653
      @redditstop1653 Před 3 lety +1

      As a resident of chicago where we have grids. I like it better then european style of roads. For traveling it's so much better in Europe. But for living I prefer the american style of way.

    • @fredsarahsteffen
      @fredsarahsteffen Před rokem

      @@redditstop1653 I’ve only lived “downtown” in smaller towns with grass boulevards, but everywhere in the US seems to be a N/S-E/W grid. For large cities (not NY, Chicago) it makes walking around difficult to me. Similar sized European cities aren’t as direct to walk, but generally more pleasant even if the streets are narrower and just as dominated by pavement. European parking always seems so limited, walking just makes more sense to me. Suburbs are different of course.

  • @JustinY.
    @JustinY. Před 5 lety +82

    When you play City Skylines yet also have massive OCD

  • @User-xw5mk
    @User-xw5mk Před 5 lety +21

    The sunset/sunrise alignment with the east-west streets of the main street grid of Manhattan was not purposefully taken into consideration. That was a work of accident stemming from the city map being aligned with the true north. The phenomena was discovered much later when taller buildings were buit, and was coined by Neil DeGrasse Tyson and he named the phenomena, Manhattanhenge, also called the Manhattan Solstice.

  • @SupremeLeaderKimJong-un
    @SupremeLeaderKimJong-un Před 5 lety +150

    Pyongyang had to rebuilt after the Korean War due to American bombings. The US used more bombs in Korea than in the whole Pacific theatre of WW2. My grandpa and father worked together to make the city great

  • @kihunipunk
    @kihunipunk Před 5 lety +24

    I wish this was longer. There's so much to learn about New York. Make a part 2!😀

    • @Blaqjaqshellaq
      @Blaqjaqshellaq Před 3 lety

      It would be interesting to learn about how the other boroughs were developed...

  • @lxverdant1837
    @lxverdant1837 Před 5 lety +12

    Vox please keep doing these urban planning videos! Being an urban planner is my dream job, and these videos inspire me

  • @Weslleeyify
    @Weslleeyify Před 5 lety +32

    Vox, we love your videos on cities and urbanism. Please keep them coming ❤️

  • @icegalaxy1941
    @icegalaxy1941 Před 5 lety +175

    Personally I prefer the more organic approaches to cities like London and Paris - grids make a city feel more boring to navigate

    • @user-vk8yq8oq7p
      @user-vk8yq8oq7p Před 5 lety +8

      This is true, it’s one of the reasons I preferred Boston over New York

    • @ShambhunathYadiyapur
      @ShambhunathYadiyapur Před 5 lety +3

      Why not both? Check Navi Mumbai for reference.

    • @petertraudes106
      @petertraudes106 Před 5 lety +24

      Under the plan Hausmann the medieval city of Paris was largely replaced with grid like grand avenues.

    • @5674inCincy
      @5674inCincy Před 5 lety +17

      Paris isn't organic

    • @Udontkno7
      @Udontkno7 Před 5 lety +5

      I like boring, I came to do things, not get lost. But I do have ADHD and walking around looking can get me frustrated.

  • @cl69420
    @cl69420 Před 5 lety +2

    No mention of New Haven, CT the first grid city in North America which Philly got its idea from. Maybe first grid city ever, designed by John Davenport.

  • @ShirleyitsJohn
    @ShirleyitsJohn Před 5 lety +111

    Really starting to enjoy vox, I watch because I know I'm going to learn something. Too often nowadays every channel just wants to cover the american news cycle which consists of "trump is bad", but vox is finally seperating itself from the pack and covering genuinely interesting interesting topics. I saw a mural of the vagabonds in a bar last week and got a little excited knowing what that actually meant now haha

    • @INEEDMOREZOMBIES115
      @INEEDMOREZOMBIES115 Před 5 lety +6

      Same!
      I know Vox has political leanings, though, these kind of videos are truly eye opening on topics we take for granted like, Urban Planning. Always gives me a good talking point for get togethers and daily dinners.

    • @guruspubichair
      @guruspubichair Před 3 lety

      1800s: Let's build the City in rectangular shapes so it's easy and cheap.
      2019: Let's sell these easy and cheap appartments for several million dollars

  • @nicegan8902
    @nicegan8902 Před 5 lety +9

    Look up William Light's 1836 plan for Adelaide, South Australia. The city is a square grid surrounded by parkland with 5 squares inside at the center of the 4 quadrants and in the middle of the city itself. Adelaide still holds to this plan.

  • @Azoryo
    @Azoryo Před 5 lety +15

    As a European I wonder.. Do rectangular grids feel homely and welcoming to you guys? More homely than organic streets? I think it's a fascinating question because I would certainly answer "no". I wonder how much that has to do with my childhood and the way I grew up.

    • @mmm59mmm
      @mmm59mmm Před 5 lety

      same thinking

    • @kevinlai7524
      @kevinlai7524 Před 5 lety +5

      my parents recently moved to NYC. My mom loves it there because it's a 10 minute walk to her office. My dad not so much. He much prefers the country side. I really don't think the grids have anything to do with why they love/hate it. Sure, a more "organic" street layout is nice to look at on the map, but i don't think it has a significant impact on how your day to day life is when you factor in all the other things that can influence how "homely" a place feels.

    • @Hazellites
      @Hazellites Před 5 lety +5

      Born in NY and I love it. When I go to less populated areas it's nice but only a while. I feel more comfortable when there is lots of people, different communities, and the transportation via subway is pretty great. There's just more to do here than being out in the suburbs and countryside.

    • @tomasvrabec1845
      @tomasvrabec1845 Před 3 lety +1

      I would terribly miss plazas and stars, with tress and monuments. It wouldn't make it any less populous

  • @noahbowie5985
    @noahbowie5985 Před 5 lety +133

    I like the grid because it pleases my OCD. It's just so perfect

  • @nadinaaee
    @nadinaaee Před 5 lety +92

    new york wasnt really organized,chaotic.
    look at indonesias map,

    • @risannd
      @risannd Před 5 lety +8

      Come to Pademangan, Sunter, or Kelapa Gading in Jakarta. It's a nicely shaped grid.

    • @gregoriodelpilariii2682
      @gregoriodelpilariii2682 Před 5 lety +11

      whats that gotta do with new york? indopride much?

    • @sarips841
      @sarips841 Před 5 lety +4

      @@gregoriodelpilariii2682 Proving NYC city plan isnt as organized as in most SEA Cities

    • @joshmoritty
      @joshmoritty Před 5 lety +7

      Is this sarcasm? Because I haven't found any one Indonesian city that's made up of organized grids.
      I'm Indonesian.

    • @nadinaaee
      @nadinaaee Před 5 lety

      Adartho its a she

  • @QuantumBraced
    @QuantumBraced Před 5 lety +2

    American cities have the most perfect grids and most perfectly aligned with the cardinal directions. It's really noticeable on Google Maps, if you look at a other countries's cities that have grids, the grids are often imperfect.

  • @just_cade
    @just_cade Před 4 lety +2

    New York's grid is iconic, the map of Manhattan is seared into my brain, it's the greatest place on Earth.

  • @lucacoccioli9244
    @lucacoccioli9244 Před 5 lety +29

    Glasgow city centre also has a remarkably uniform grid system. I've always wondered how this came to be, especially in an old european city. As far as I can tell the city centre has been a grid since before the 18th century, possibly earlier.

    • @felipwild
      @felipwild Před 5 lety +1

      The grid system is very old. Like ancient old. Also, if you think about it, the idea of a grid system is simpler because topography and other aspects (like protecting certain animal habits and natural springs) are considered when creating cities nowadays. Drawing a grid on a piece of paper was like deciding the border of some states, ignoring what it really meant to have a straight line over a region in real life.

    • @lucacoccioli9244
      @lucacoccioli9244 Před 5 lety

      @@felipwild what's peculiar about Glasgow is that the city centre grid is so uniform yet it's on very hilly ground. Vox's new video about suburban design talks about how it's easier to make curved streets that follow the outlines of the terrain, yet Glasgow city centre completely ignores that rule. And it makes me wonder why and when there was such a strong push for a grid design, especially when you consider that it isn't even perfectly aligned with north and south. We don't get a Glasgowhenge effect. Just a bit curious in my opinion.

    • @felipwild
      @felipwild Před 5 lety +1

      @@lucacoccioli9244 exactly, it's easier, cheaper and more convenient to make curved streets that follow the outlines of the terrain, but this knowledge (or idea) is recent if you consider the history of urbanization . Old cities would have the grid system because they didn't care much for the implications of doing so. If Glasgow was to be founded today with our studies on terrain, building roads and whatnot, probably it wouldn't even be a good choice in the first place. I study architecture and urbanism in Brazil. Nowadays, according to the law, you CANT build on terrain with an elevation higher than 15% for that will cause a series of problems with accessibility (specially for the disabled people) and the streets would have to curve too much to avoid being too steep.

    • @jonhauge816
      @jonhauge816 Před 4 lety

      Downtown Kristiansand (Norway) got the same grid. One of the reasons is that all the houses in a street got nature/ ocean view in two directions, four directions if you live on a corner.

    • @Twannnng
      @Twannnng Před 4 lety +1

      @@jonhauge816 Surely only 3, unless you can look through your neighbour's wall!

  • @iainronald4217
    @iainronald4217 Před 5 lety +3

    As an urban planning major who's had a summer away from the course, thank you. This is so interesting!

  • @whatsyourstoryindia
    @whatsyourstoryindia Před 5 lety +89

    A video on Mumbai's misplanned infrastructure??

    • @shreyastambat1813
      @shreyastambat1813 Před 5 lety +4

      @Hernando Malinche 😂 🙈 😄

    • @satriagalih8062
      @satriagalih8062 Před 5 lety +7

      The videographer would be lost in action 😅😅

    • @ashyclaret
      @ashyclaret Před 3 lety

      It was well planned originally if you look at old Bombay. Also one of the best engineering feats ever for a city, when you consider it was seven islands. I think it was just the sheer volume of people who migrated to it in a short space of time that caused the problems.

  • @jltiger97
    @jltiger97 Před 5 lety +24

    How do live with CZcams not in night mode??

    • @illaneecorona
      @illaneecorona Před 5 lety +1

      Hmm.... Just switched over. Loving it already. Lol. Thank you for your influence.

  • @unit333angel
    @unit333angel Před 5 lety +2

    I had no idea I would be so fascinated by the history of how a city was planned and built. This was so cool!!!

  • @MomotheToothless
    @MomotheToothless Před 3 lety +1

    New York in 1800 : Let's make all our streets uniform and rectangular.
    New York today : Why are our streets so congested???

  • @kuromad
    @kuromad Před 5 lety +3

    As an European, I always thought the US (especially NY) city layouts were weird. It is beautiful in a sense, but also very inefficient. Put a bunch of rocks in a bucket... if they were all squared bigger blocks, you wouldn't fit nearly as much as when you put rounded rocks of variable sizes in them.
    But I guess thats why you have a much easier time finding a parking space :D

  • @chococat746
    @chococat746 Před 5 lety +38

    Without development, you would not just have the sun. Manhatten was covered with forest prior to settlement.

  • @adamiotime
    @adamiotime Před 5 lety +5

    I've heard that the blocks were organised with more east-west than north-south streets in order to maximise access to the rivers and harbours for goods and logistics.

    • @kefkapalazzo1
      @kefkapalazzo1 Před 5 lety

      Yeah there’s like 20 avenues (N/S) and 270 streets (E/W)

    • @dansanger5340
      @dansanger5340 Před 3 lety

      Maybe so, but it seems like a really really bad choice for optimizing N/S travel.

  • @azntitanicboy
    @azntitanicboy Před 5 lety +19

    Thanks for another amazing video! Could you guys explore what effects the 1811 grid has on the city today? The most notable example being how the lack of alleys and back streets in that grid causes trash to pile up on all the streets? An example of this is NYC's Ktown on 34th, probably one of the smelliest streets in Manhattan in the summer. Compare that to a city like Chicago, whose alleys make the main streets looks immaculate compared to NYC. Thanks!

    • @notsure6187
      @notsure6187 Před 5 lety +1

      Isaac Kim Chicago is a very clean city. a lot of neighborhoods outside downtown Philadelphia have alleys so I assume New York has them too outside of Manhattan.

  • @nataliac2734
    @nataliac2734 Před 5 lety +1

    Everything ever should be designed and animated by Vox's staff.

  • @crazycrackinchick
    @crazycrackinchick Před 5 lety +55

    “This is a utopia called Philadelphia”
    Uhhhhhhhhhh

  • @mareksicinski3726
    @mareksicinski3726 Před 5 lety +1

    Vox, could you please explain how is it healthier or easier to support a larger population with that other 'graceful' robotic plan as opposed to any normal or sane development like the one we saw in the old street arrangement?

  • @jilliangazillion4263
    @jilliangazillion4263 Před 5 lety +3

    This was awesome - more content about urban planning and landscape architecture would be really cool. I love Vox's take, and crisp video editing.

  • @ratnambordia4452
    @ratnambordia4452 Před 5 lety

    Vox is really killing it these days.

  • @Mr5Stars
    @Mr5Stars Před 5 lety +1

    NYC grid system made it so easy to navigate the city when I was a Bike messanger in my college year, late 90's.... Want to head North, watch the street numbers go UP!!!!!

  • @VinylLockup
    @VinylLockup Před 5 lety +4

    Fantastic AE text animations! Very fresh and innovative. Nice work editor! 👌 (great research too)

  • @_TbT_
    @_TbT_ Před 5 lety +1

    As someone living in a 2000 years old city, I prefer the organically grown and therefore interesting structure of my city (especially the inner very well preserved part).

  • @isee7283
    @isee7283 Před 5 lety +2

    To all people from Manhattan, how do you drive or walk done the street in the morning or evening when the sun is directly in front of you? It is painstaking or not really?

  • @justgame5508
    @justgame5508 Před 5 lety +1

    I remember when I went to New York, flying in it was so unlike anything I’d ever seen. In the UK the roads, city’s and towns are all a complete mess of winding turns and roundabouts. I do prefer it like that over a grid, feels more natural

  • @rizkiumlati_867
    @rizkiumlati_867 Před 2 lety

    Without development you just have to sun. The buildings make it worth looking at
    That a great civil engineering quote right there

  • @chikeh1
    @chikeh1 Před 5 lety +2

    You should do a video on Haussmann's renovation of Paris. It's awesome and revolutionary for urban planning at that time and at that scale and it still is even for today.

  • @kobiosama
    @kobiosama Před 5 lety +1

    In my city we had roundabouts every five mins. I wish our city were this organized

  • @kkkk-wg6je
    @kkkk-wg6je Před 5 lety

    Love that this is a series and not crammed into one vid. It keeps me coming back for more.

  • @FedoraMiaza
    @FedoraMiaza Před 5 lety +4

    Hey Vox!
    Can we please have a schedule from you for the different series you upload (Ex. Darkroom every X day or Almanac every Y day). Thankyou!
    Btw, love your videos.

  • @PositiveEmo
    @PositiveEmo Před 5 lety +1

    Seem like such a throw away video. Failed to mention some of the more interesting details of the gird. Off the top of my head
    1) 20 blocks equal a mile (short sides)
    2) The grid stops at 160th st, partly because above that it's too hard to make the grid (area too hilly) and because the original planners didn't want to make a real estate market (lol)
    3) central park was originally planned for the city. They just decided to have one because cities having parks was a big rage at the time.
    That's all I can remember off the top of my head.

  • @rozkaz661
    @rozkaz661 Před 5 lety +23

    Tldr: cause its cheap and easy to build

  • @irenesophia7970
    @irenesophia7970 Před 5 lety

    As a town planner students. I must say some country like mine are still agains the rectalinear and rectangular streets. Because of safety reasons . Altho i must say the design of Manhanttan is definitely satisfying to look at. It was one of my favourite city design.

  • @AidanMcLeodProductions
    @AidanMcLeodProductions Před 5 lety +5

    You could blindfold and drop me anywhere in Manhattan and I could tell you what neighborhood I am in within seconds. I love nyc

  • @Bacopa68
    @Bacopa68 Před 5 lety +1

    Uhm, the circles and diagonals in the DC layout were defensive points for cannon fire. The actual cannons on display at DuPont Circle and the actual fact that the circle held out until the British left in the war of 1812.

  • @TheSuzberry
    @TheSuzberry Před 5 lety +1

    My understanding is that the circles in the plan for D. C. was to inhibit a cavalry charge down the avenues. -. They sure slow down auto traffic.

  • @jsnmad
    @jsnmad Před 3 měsíci

    Jane Jacobs would love the grid model. It's perfect for walking traffic.

  • @kidkurmudgeon-0_o
    @kidkurmudgeon-0_o Před 5 lety

    grids are so intuitive, for people without a sense of direction like myself

  • @elementic0181
    @elementic0181 Před 5 lety +1

    They didn't mention how slot of the inspiration for Manhattan's grid system was taken from Glasgow , Scotland because many Scottish immigrants settled and done well on the city.

  • @bl00dkillz
    @bl00dkillz Před 5 lety +5

    little that they know its no longer cheap at all build in Manhattan nonetheless to live in regardless of a rectangular street grid

    • @shanekeenaNYC
      @shanekeenaNYC Před 5 lety +1

      Due to them trying to give NYC some "Charm" and "Character" is the reason it's expensive. If they just accepted the change in scenery, it would all change.

  • @mareksicinski3726
    @mareksicinski3726 Před 5 lety +2

    'chaos', 'chaotic curved streets', 'stuck with', 'order'
    lol the distinctly ridiculous air of superiority

  • @SwampGas703
    @SwampGas703 Před 5 lety +6

    i much prefer the nyc grid over the demented one way streets and circles of DC, but i also believe it is designed that way to control mobs of people in case a riot breaks out.

  • @CaravelClerihew
    @CaravelClerihew Před 5 lety +25

    I'm a simple man: When I see a new Vox video, I click.

  • @Wince1811
    @Wince1811 Před 3 lety

    It says something that Americans think that windy streets are chaotic, while a grid is actually chaotic as you loose track of where you are as it’s kinda similar everywhere

  • @NorilXD
    @NorilXD Před 5 lety +6

    'city plans reflect values' is such an American way of thinking

  • @stephenmiller2337
    @stephenmiller2337 Před 5 lety +1

    I live in Toronto, and I wish the planners and architects had adopted a model like this

  • @Everett737
    @Everett737 Před 5 lety +1

    160 years and Calvert Vaux is still getting overlooked for his contributions / partnership with Olmstead on the design of Central Park. Normally Vox's journalists are pretty good but c'mon bro, that's a key detail...

  • @holligraham7493
    @holligraham7493 Před 5 lety +1

    Woooh. Where’s the reference to the example grid system adopted from Whitehaven, Cumbria, U.K??

  • @mossycross3166
    @mossycross3166 Před 5 lety

    This is my most favorite vox video and it just tells me the history of my own city and how it became what it is today

    • @mossycross3166
      @mossycross3166 Před 5 lety

      Tho i wish you guys can work on both Mta history and Landfill History of New York City ...... i thought of multiple ways to refine or restructure the whole system because its slow and inefficient compare to other citys and its not even clean let alone crime and Drug activity i just want a safe,clean happy city thats transportation has no delay

  • @stanprysiazhniuk5511
    @stanprysiazhniuk5511 Před 5 lety

    I wish VOX had actually suggested such a road-trip to all the people mentioned in the end... I'd watch this for sure!

  • @rrbaggett7
    @rrbaggett7 Před 5 lety

    Excellent & fascinating, Phil! I frequently paused the video in order to zoom in to pore over the interesting maps & photos. Well done, young man!

  • @pinkopat
    @pinkopat Před 4 lety +2

    Parts of my city were built in a grid so it would be easier to fire cannonballs at people in case of a riot, we are not the same

  • @moejobe
    @moejobe Před 5 lety +1

    @5:23 kudos to the artist who made that.

  • @crazycrackinchick
    @crazycrackinchick Před 5 lety +1

    Also Phil lining the grey hair! Gives a more “wiseman” look !

  • @juanbestene1101
    @juanbestene1101 Před 5 lety

    Vox makes me happy

  • @raykin8633
    @raykin8633 Před 5 lety +8

    More like how modern traffic jams were invented

  • @stephennelmes2537
    @stephennelmes2537 Před 4 lety +1

    The grid system was used by the Romans to get troops more efficiently from one part of a fort or fortified town to another. Whether we like it or not most of our civilization was built on warfare. Ambulance's, European rail networks, tinned food, medical advances, space travel, nuclear power, lasers, satellites, computers and the internet. We are at our most inventive when we are at our most destructive. Central park was inspired by Birkenhead park. The worlds first publicly funded civic park. 5 / Apr /1847.

  • @MrOverkillking
    @MrOverkillking Před 5 lety +6

    As efficient as the grid may be, the grid ain't for humans living in it

  • @phosphoros60
    @phosphoros60 Před rokem +1

    American: *sees a curve "Is this disorganization?"

  • @0Milena_aneliM0
    @0Milena_aneliM0 Před 5 lety

    I come from a Brazilian city called mirassol and the every road is square it so easy to walk around the city i wonder why every city isn't like that

    • @ashyclaret
      @ashyclaret Před 3 lety

      It would make the world very dull.

  • @ms.rstake_1211
    @ms.rstake_1211 Před 5 lety +8

    I love this series ❤️ 😍.

  • @cbwavy
    @cbwavy Před 5 lety +5

    My comment got a screenshot lol! Considering myself famous from this day on

  • @RudieObias
    @RudieObias Před 5 lety +1

    Another reason why New York City is the best city in the US.

  • @Lobstrique
    @Lobstrique Před 5 lety +1

    i love almanac so much! amazing episode

  • @Alaois
    @Alaois Před 5 lety +44

    Then you have *Traffic Problems*

    • @kefkapalazzo1
      @kefkapalazzo1 Před 5 lety +2

      They didn’t know people would keep living so long and pumping out babies and the babies would live longer

    • @dexterdugarjr.3217
      @dexterdugarjr.3217 Před 5 lety +6

      Grids are highly efficient for traffic. Our laws, regulations, and lack of proper drivers ed are the issues.

    • @kefkapalazzo1
      @kefkapalazzo1 Před 5 lety

      Dexter Dugar Jr. I can’t drive, but the way I see people drive in this city makes me think it’s too easy to get a license

    • @dexterdugarjr.3217
      @dexterdugarjr.3217 Před 5 lety +1

      @@kefkapalazzo1 Let's just say the American approach can be deadly. Even speeding is codified into law.

    • @amdrags
      @amdrags Před 5 lety +2

      Cries in DC

  • @aupatS
    @aupatS Před 5 lety

    Interesting fact, l=|x1-x2|+|y1-y2| metric (shortest path between two points) is sometimes called Manhattan metric.

  • @WayneDavisDA_ILLESTalive14

    Man why tf was this so short? It was much appreciated and I know why but c’mon.

  • @TheInselaffen
    @TheInselaffen Před 5 lety +3

    3:41 China reference, still so true.

  • @akbrahma7739
    @akbrahma7739 Před 4 lety

    What I find most fascinating about Americans is their absolute belief in taking a gamble. New York was an established city of 150 years. Yet they risked it, building a grid could displace a lot, destroy a lot. Esp when the US was still nascent, and what intensified the risk was NYC was not just a city it was the gateway to US. One wrong move and you might end up losing it all. Yet they went for it, and in the end the result was a brilliant success.

  • @petertraudes106
    @petertraudes106 Před 5 lety

    Rumours had it that the New York grid was inspired by the design of the Dutch polder (reclaimed land) of the Beemster. These rumours have never been confirmed nor debunked, but the resemblance is striking. Greetings from Amsterdam, acording to Lewis Mumford author of the city in history the first designed and planned European city beyond its medieval bounderies. By the way, the original name of New York was New Amsterdam. Flushing was Vlissingen, Brooklyn was Breukelen and Harlem was Haarlem.

  • @ledzeppelin5647
    @ledzeppelin5647 Před 5 lety +1

    Looks like a map of the "Normandy Invasion"

  • @Wooyi
    @Wooyi Před 5 lety

    Phil putting out episodes like fireworks I love it

  • @cl0udbear
    @cl0udbear Před 5 lety +1

    The perfect grid system can be found in Barcelona's l'Eixample.

  • @cmooreHD
    @cmooreHD Před 5 lety +12

    280 views... this is the earliest I have ever ever been! Might as well use my time properly...
    I love Vox.

    • @notsure6187
      @notsure6187 Před 5 lety

      Courtney Moore 688,000 views. I'm late. 😥

  • @Riles04
    @Riles04 Před 5 lety

    I enjoy every single vox video I click on but this ones my favorite

  • @mind-of-neo
    @mind-of-neo Před 4 lety

    I ADORE a gridded city, but its only nice if it's uncompromisingly straight along its own axis, doesnt break off into separate, diagonal grids every few blocks, and is DENSELY constructed. Manhattan is perfect in that sense, but it doesn't go very far. Brooklyn would be very nice if it didnt have 30 different clashing grids that make it look as messy as any non-grided city. Many american cities are arranged on one grid, but none of them are made properly dense. they have entire blocks that are just parking lots or one building. I wish more cities were built the way Manhattan is.