Everlast Hydrostrike: Water Punching Bag Review
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- čas přidán 5. 09. 2018
- You asked for a product review on some heavy bags, so here you go!
Shanghai based MMA Coach and Kunlun Fight Combat League ringside commentator Ramsey Dewey answers questions from the viewers.
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This bag is not designed for kicking. *5secs later, kicks the bag
I laughed at that also
Just because it isn't designed for it, doesn't mean that it is not safe to do so. Just that you will need to be better conditioned to handle it and understand that it isn't going to respond properly.
He's more than a man
Not designed meaning it isnt designed to facilitate kicking
don't be so serious man
Hi it's Ramsey Dewey and yes, this is my real voice
That seems pretty practical. And you can fill them with hard OR soft water for that different resistance ;)
Uhh.... sure. :D
Cliven Longsight chrisfix here!
Φώτιος Τσακωμάκας never thought id see him mentioned on this channel ever
Lol. Very clever
Do you have to use water to fill the bags or can you use the blood of your defeated opponents?
Use vokda
I personally use the blood of my opponents I don't think it effects the bags if you use other liquids
blood is better
Eric Graham I use my tears to fill my bag up
just hang your opponent up after you have mauled them........................ them maul them again
Imagine disliking a punching bag review
As a physic, i can tell that the water punching bag bounces less due to the elastic behavior of the water. Every hit deforms the bag and bounces it. The energy used in deforming the bag makes the tempersture going up so a bigger part of the energy used in hitting the bag transform in increasing the temperature (this don't happen as much as in a solid punching bag), sorry for my bad english
0:35 Ramsey fights like he's in the 1930s and the reward is a load of bread
The way he fights looks like something out of those silent black and white movies like Chaplin or some shit
Imagine the bag breaking, man the cleanup haha
Fill it with diluted disinfectant maybe. Bag breaks; mopping the floors is half done! :)
I never expected to see something to smart on this page
no worse than a waterbed.
Great video. Just purchased the 100lb in black. Looking forward to making this one of my main training tools. 🙏
Mine did the first time I used it had to unhook it and throw it out the garage door before it soaked everything
Possibly the best review on youtube. You covered EVERYTHING.
i remember the very first time i hit a heavy bag it was a sand bag and top was so compressed it was like a brick wall but i did not know so i walked up bare knuckle and hit the top of the bag with a big chuck liddel style overhand right and messed my hand up , dont think i broke it but it was so swollen i couldn't make a fist for about a week.
Yeah, same here. It was my wake up call when I started to get interested in martial arts and boxing around age 12, I asked my parents for a heavy bag and when I got it I was so excited I thought "YEAH, Imma beat the shit our of this bag". Being a complete noob I hit it with all my might bare knuckle, and sprained my wrist. That's when It hit me, that not only I didn't know how to punch properly, I didn't even know how to close my fist correctly.
Sand bags are totally different! Nobody really understands how hard they are until they try hitting them!
On a different note Ramsey, my old heavy bags were filled with sawdust instead of sand. Would that be softer, harder or the same as sand, don't know if you've had one of those to compare.
Brad Davis if you are planning on hitting a bag hard I recommend you wrap your wrist up tight so you don’t break your wrist.
I wouldn't hit any bag without wrapping my hands
Bought one of these after your review and very pleased. It sure is a beast and the lack of massive swaying and ease on your wrists is what sets it apart
Gonna buy one soon! Ty for the review!
Great review coach Dewey, I will look more into water punching bags the next time I'm shopping for a bag.
My last gym had one. I believe it was about 100lbs. Personally, I loved it. Good for conditioning bare hands. I did use kicks sometimes, but not much as well as knees and elbows. I only wish they had full length versions. Again personally, I love aquabags.
Very in depth with the review. Well done bro 👍
Thanks ...great review, I'm going to buy one
You need to add this to your review playlist. Thanks from Texas.
Thanks!
I have a regular Everlast 70lbs canvas heavy bag, this is my 6th one, so sooner or later I'll need another. So I might try a water bag next time, if I can find a used one for cheap. I usually buy unused ones, whereas the people thought they would use them but didn't.
Thanks!
Any waterbag follow-up since?
Another valuable video thank you
The reason that the sandbag swings a lot more than the water bag is that rubber and water absorb the energy of the punches a lot better by deforming and distributing the punch. The sandbag transfers energy through most of its volume and the inertia of your punch is added to the bag's almost completely.
Brilliant review..thank you
great review man
Honestly could watch Ramsey bare-handed punch that water bag for an entire video
It's good to have both kinds of bags. The water bags stay stationary, which is nice for all the reasons you say, but likewise it is good to have the movement of an ordinary bag so you work on your footwork.
I don’t understand why this hasn’t been done: the Thai bags are great BUT after a few years of use, they pack hard at the bottom & the top gets flimsy. Easy design fix would be to attach a hanger at both ends so as the filling starts to pack, turn it over & let it re-settle. Any feedback?
These water punching things are insane. I need to get One of these this is absolute 🔥 🔥 Always had thought these would be good but never ever seen one untill now lol. Nice
The Ramsey Dewey voice (^TM) is like listening to an audio book for children. Very soothing.
I love your "Venom" top.
Digging the new intro!
We tried water bags in the 90s. They didn’t work out so well for boxing. Have you ever heard the old saying that water turns to concrete if you hit it fast enough? That’s what happened when the mid-weight guys started throwing power punches on them. Even with wraps and gloves, some guys got bruised and bleeding knuckles. Everlast came up with a fix, by adding an inch of high density foam to the bag lining, but most boxing clubs were turned off by the bad experience.
Makes sense.
several pics of Tyson using them in different gym.
Hey Ramsey. That might be a bit outside of your usual topics, but I was wondering: I have seen a few MMA fights with multiple fighters on each side. To me they always looked more like multiple 1:1 fights happening at the same time than two groups fighting each other.
Do you think we will maybe one day see group tactics or even formation fighting in unarmed martial arts? Or are these events to rare for something like that to emerge?
Space and mass when added with motion makes it very hard for two people to attack one person unless the person being attacked is held, pinned or on the ground. So, an experienced fighter can always make multiple attackers form a bee line not to mention there is always a "let him try it first" from the attackers POV
Group fighting in armed combat has evolved and refined for several millenia. It's proven again and a gain that fighters who can hold formation and in general know how to group fight have a huge advantage over the same number of individualists. The question is, does that translate to unarmed fighting?
The point is that group fighting is an extra skillset that has to be learned and trained. If the group does not have it, exactly what you said will happen. Now, since most professional fights are 1:1 does it make sense for anyone in the sport to learn that skillset?
Look up “Team MMA combat” there is a sport starting up that is actually team based MMA, I recommend you look into that and see if you can figure out what possible techniques can be used on multiple opponents 👍🏽
@@Skyldyel Team MMA is still in diapers, i don't think it will grow too much because it is simply too dangerous. I don't think anyone has organised formation unarmed combat, simply because thats not how wars are fought and its too dangerous to do as a sport.
Hey Ramsey. I have one of these in 100lbs in my gym and I completely agree with your review and it only took me one kick to realize that this was not a kickboxing bag. I tore my pectoral muscle lifting weights and I was wondering if you have any experience with reconditioning and how long before I would be back striking like before.
You might want to check out AthleanX. He has a bunch of rehabbing muscle injuries on his channel.
I think the purpose of this, specially the smaller ones is it emulates coming at you movement, because it is like a pendulum. Aside from the angles, and toughness, I think what separates it is movement.
I'll check your vids that said I'd also appreciate you showing some of your striking on the wall bag back there. - Thanks for sharing this and Blessings brother
You could technically make a softer bag by instead of doing polyethylene bag a silicone bag. It probably wouldn't break and would have more of a skin texture. Fill with ballistic or silicone gel instead of water perhaps, would swing more. But that'd be a different bag.
Man your a beast in the strike game. 💯💪🏻
You can buy/use an engine block lifter for hanging bags if you have access to one.
Those elbows sound like they must hurt, I'm a wimpy grappler tho
Ramsey! Could you make a video on a cheap workout/routine to train when on a trip or when a gym is not an available option? Saludos desde el sur austral de Chile!
Thank you im about to use mine for the first time n add it to my training etc
What do you think of the bag
My first heavybag was hanged from my apartment balcony. A water bag would have been great to keep the apartment from shaking or the bag from swinging into the wall, had it been an option 20 years ago.
Really useful!
I have a Everlast hydro speed bag. Instead of it being a wooden base, it’s plastic that you fill with water. It had no bounce so I had to put a bunch of weights on top. I think Everlast is trying to explore in using water.
Likely less likely to break or leak.
Water can absorbe and dissipate force better (within the bag.) Likely also why they swing less.
Awesome. At 4:00, you answered the only real question I have in regards to these bags: Can you hit them with a lot of force without much sway? Thanks a ton. :D
I bought the 100lb as a starter to practice boxing had it for 2 years and conditioned my knuckles hitting it barehanded. I even kick it, personally I like the water heavy bag, but all heavy bags are good. awesome review
I find personally that water bags and tires are perfect for Savate. Mind you, the Savature kicks with a wrestling shoe or otomix style shoe and that makes a difference. I find one round bare knuckle gives your hand all the condition you need so you don't break your hand. Great review 🍻
We need one of those "ego bags" at my gym! I went to kick one of our heavy bags after quarantine and holy hell, the shin conditioning went down the drain in the months before! I didn't walk the day after.....
Ramsay can you do a video of the various stances; southpaw vs ortjodox for a right hand fighter and whether there is any benefit to training both?
Do you use sand filled bags at the jx fight club?
Seems fun!
good review
Geting more and more from spiderman to Venom, waiting to see the venom shirts:D
I'd appreciate seeing you clinch dirtybox throw & ground & Pound those dummies back there in the background. :-) Blessings brother
That's what I was gonna bring up they do absorb similar to how a muscle would.
Yes please do more Product reviews, there are not enough trusty ppl on here when it comes to fighting gear ( and i rly could not give less of a fuck if its sponsored or not you deserve all the money you can get my brother )
Ty ^^
THanks for the review Ramsey. I noticed that when you punch from the right you have a tendency to pull your leg up and down just before the impact 6:50 . After training kickboxing for 3 years, I noticed I had the same tendency, however recentelly my teacher insisted I should never do that, and that instead I should shoot the right punch never loosing contact of both feet from the ground. Since then I feel that I am slower and less efective. Any thoughts?
That’s a deliberately trained falling step- not a bad habit. A lot of really pedantic boxing coaches that don’t know any better will tell you it’s bad and wrong- I’m aware of this. I’ll make a video explaining why I do that one day. It’s immensely important, and very few striking coaches (at least in the west) understand this. Check out Coach Anthony Rodriguez (Coach Anthony here on CZcams) he’s one of the few American boxing coaches I’ve seen that teaches the right falling step with the right straight. Everyone yammers about “footwork”, but this dude actually understands it.
which one to get an 80lbs or 100 lbs? 5ft or 6ft to hung it in my 8ft ceiling garage?
I will be using it for boxing and muay thai too. I already have a 45lbs round water uppercut bag and a double end bag too..I used to fight in muay thai and also did some boxing while I was still competing in wrestling. Now I just wrestle but like to hit the bags still:)
Been looking at the teardroo bags too but I think I can get more out of a full bag, what do you think?? My dad will be using it for cardio too
Calming voice coach lol. Great review and demo.
I also respond better to a voice like Ramsey's over someone like a USMC DI screaming in my face. I don't do anything anyone tells me if they're screaming and spittle coming out of the sides of their mouths. I'd never make it in the Military because I suck at following orders.
Nice bags!!
Great review…! One question - is it any quieter than other bags? I’m considering getting one to hang in my apartment (it won’t need a stand as I’ve got a pull up bar drilled into the ceiling), and just wary of the noise. I do have pretty thick walls and have rarely had noise complaints despite playing music unreasonably loud quite often, so I think I might be Ok regardless, but any thoughts on the noisiness would be greatly appreciated!
The noise is going to be a result of your hanging set up mostly. So, that depends on what you’re hanging it on and what you’re hanging it with.
@@RamseyDewey I’m aiming to hang it off the pull up bar with the Everlast ‘Universal Punch Bag Hanger’… I suppose anything that isn’t a chain us what I’m looking for to reduce noise then, correct? Only thing I’ve seen with that hanger is that it seems there is potential for it to slide across the bar… Thanks for getting back to me so fast though Ramsey, I very much appreciate it!
Interesting. I've never seen them before. I've got one somewhere that's got like a layer of gel stuff on the outside, which idk... But never seen these . Thanks. 👍
I particularly like the small one for body shots... hooks, uppercuts, shovels etc. Think I'll order one if I can find it.
Also I've never really seen your striking style before, so much as more grappling and stuff with just abit of striking.
So that was also interesting to watch for me.
I'm guessing you have a background in some sort of karate or similar art maybe? Which developed into more of a kickboxing style later on?
Idk... You don't seem to have a straight up Muay Thai or Boxing type base to me anyway. But what do I know haha. Anyway it's an interesting style.
Thanks again Sir.
Ps: Why do you have a floor to ceiling ball so close to that cupboard/shelf thingy with gear on it? And bag near a fire box? 😄
Maybe it's just the angle but idk...looks to me like it may get in the way or balk me abit. Or worse some new student gets carried away and accidentally smashes it or breaks the fire box and sets off a fire alarm panic lol.
Love your gym though.
Do the water bags mold up inside or from using them all the time it's not an issue?
Is this water bag better for the joints?
I have heard some people saying that they hurt more when kicking or punching than regular bags? What about mold?
Good video bro. Hey do you think I can use the bag for muay thai too and of course boxing? . I was gonna get a longer bag but my 17 year old likes the tear Drop bags..he wants to use them for kicking,kneeing and boxing .
I have elbow tendonitis so I was looking for something softer and this looks like a good softer bag that will be easier on my joints?? It also resembles a tear drop bag. Do you think this should work for my needs? .My son is a wrestler who used to fight in muay thai and boxing. We both will be using bag just for cardio and to have fun with it since I used to do some boxing and muay thai myself. Thank u.
I also been checking out the liquid shock bag that has foam outside and I think a bladder inside for water so it supposed to be softer and good on joints?
But like I mentioned before son likes tear drop bags
i was sold soon as i saw no gloves..but plz continue..
ty good sir
The aquabag has the same patent number as a water buoy sold on eBay for a quarter of the price.
2:40 Better keep Jourdan away from them then 😊
Hey could you answer my question how much does it weigh if it’s filled to the brim the black one at the end? About 190 or 200lbs? Or
Do a video of dropping one of these from a tall building.
What if you fill the bag with water + starch... (+ something so it does not rot)..... i think that would be nice
Mine definitely leaked unfortunately. I upgraded to the aqua bag brand
Only one chain looks like you can hang it anywhere. Like out at a park on some monkey bars. Or a strong tree branch. Interesting!
Hey Ramsey,
I've been watching your videos. I'm a father of 4 amazing kids, married to a beautiful wife, and life is just busy as can be. Seeing you train at 45 is nothing less than inspirational and I've been trying to find examples to keep fit best I can. I would really like to visit your gym one day in Shanghai. I have come to understand how realistic MMA training is, and am letting go much of traditional gimmicks and tricks to further focus training on specific combat. I respect your content. On my page not that you should visit, I put up some light bareknuckle sparring matches with Kung Fu. Went through phase you also experienced where I felt to prove the effectiveness of it. Haha. Made some noise. But, the evolution of fighting, or rather the truth of it, never changes but it is easy to miss because of all the Bullshido. My uncle trained me in Taiwanese Military Kung Fu, San Da, and Suai Jiao. The old school non watered down way. That is my base. Got into Wing Chun for the past 13 years but I'm deciding to walk away from it. I discovered too much gimmicks and wasteful forms and non proven theories that led me to believe it's a bunch of hoopla and bullshido. Some techniques work but nobody fights like that naturally. Chi Sao isn't real combat.
How would these go keeping them outside in the sun?
Do you have any stand alone bags like the wave master... I would like to hear your opinion on it
I had a couple of Wavemaster XXL’s at my old gym in the USA. As far as free standing bags go, the XXL is the best I’ve used- but they’re really soft, really easy to break, and way to easy to knock over.
I got one that I filled all the way up and it is FIRM. Now im trying to find a way to get water out of it. Any help? Its too heavy to turn upside down and drain
Do you need to buy a carrabiner separate?
I only train on bags without gloves, and I've found that there's a big difference in how various surfaces and fillings respond to the hand, and more specifically their tendency to grip the skin if your strike isn't clean (for example a tight hooking punch of the bag moves away a bit). My question is, does the rubber tend to grip and grab your skin more than normal bags? I would think it would be very bad for those cases.
You've tried to solve a problem that may not be a problem in the first place! :)
Still wondering if the rubber does actually grip/drag/tear the skin more for glancing blows, or whether it's much the same as regular punching bags. I don't like wearing gloves, and like to be able to just wail on a bag for short bursts when I feel like it, without getting properly equipped. If the rubber is a bit grabby, it probably wouldn't suit my purposes, which is why I asked.
These bags are pretty low friction- very smooth surface. But it feels like your fist got got shot with a giant rubber band if you go bare knuckle.
Haha. OK, thanks for the feedback. Definitely sounds like a _try before you buy_ product then.
I heard that these are better for impact for your fists
Where do you buy your rash guards. you always looking dapper af.
Most of them I got on taobao.com. It’s a Chinese website where you can by anything that can be bought or sold in China for cheap, with 1-2 day delivery. Probably one of the greatest things about living in China.
thanks man, honestly wasn't sure if you'd reply. Keep up with the great content.
The leather bag completely filled with sand has no give. The problem with that is that all the shock of the punch (or kick) travels back into the arm. That creates problems down the road on the joints. You really need to have bags that give. Use of the heavy bag is different than hand or shin conditioning so routine practice with a sand filled bag will cause problems down the road.
Put a T-shirt or drop it in a cloth bag? I had one which had an outer cover.
The water bags are different because they are variable loading and have a dampening effect. When I say variable loading it's this: At the bottom, you have all 150#s. At about half way up, you are only hitting on the water at the striking point and up. Think of it this way. A stack of plates. When you lift at the bottom, all the weight must be lifted but if you lift in the middle, it's much less. Most kicks are at the bottom of the bag, most hand strikes are half way up or more. I'd bet your undercuts hurt a lot more than your jabs. :-) The internal dampening of the water is also why they don't sway as much. When you hit the bag it sends a shock wave across the bag, which is some what reflected back to the point of contact. That energy is absorbed by the water. (the dampening effect.) Thanks for the review.
Where can I buy one?
im getting one
You should narrate audiobooks. Your voice is epic.
Cool, I've never trained with one of this water bags but they seem better at bare-knuckle punching, since the average punching bag is very likely to cut the skin of the fingers while punching due the friction between the skin and the canvas, but, does this one have the same issue?
Leather bags are way better for bare knuckle punching. These rubber bags feel like getting flogged over the hands with a whip with every punch.
So, cuts are often when punching the water bag with the hands "clean"?
what size anchor shackle?
I like the black spider man shirt better than the other Spider-Man shirt 😂
Great review, glad I found thid channel through those bullshido womens self defence videos.
Ramsey you deadlift 405? Not bad brotha!
best review on this bag! May I ask your weight?
About 93kg, 205lbs.
@@RamseyDewey Thank you so much, i was looking for a bag to put on my everlast stand as i can't drill on any wall, and i was worried about the swing of all the traditional bag i use as i can go only up to 100lbs, seeing this review seems this would be absolutely perfect! thank you so much for sharing
Yeah what an awesome voice.
Hi!I like your CZcams channel but I need some serious help so please help me!I have unfilled 300lbs and how to fill it?Dempsey,Marciano and Foreman used those bags!
Maybe 2010 i filled plastic ball with water( volleyball for kids) and I tie up little higher than my head and I used for punching like simulator of opponent head.
Cool venom shirt.
What if their water breaks?
Can you use sand instead of water to fill the hydro bag?
I would not. Sand filled bags are like concrete.
I have a everlast powercore elite 5ft heavy bag, I'm trying to figure out how to firm up the top part of the bag? the bottom and centre are rock hard but the top part is a little loose. The bag is brand new I was wondering if I should just cut up some clothes and pack them in. any advice master, I dont know where to ask questions.
If it’s a rag stuffed bag, sure. Put more rags in. You’ll have to tuck them in near the edges of the bag if you want it to be firm.
@@RamseyDewey Great Thank you Master Ramsey🐱👤
@@RamseyDewey I'm going to have to invest in a sting commercial grade 5ft bag, it has built on D shackles to the straps so it hangs alot better than the bag I have and I don't have to sacrifice the height from where the bag will hang off my boxing bag stand which is roughly 7 or 8 feet tall using a chain.
Lots of money but for me it's worth the investment to have the best setup I can possibly have to train with full power punches and kicks.
I've been dealing with uroligical chronic pain for 8 months without any real help from the medical system, so I'm trying to get better but dealing with pain for so long now it has affected my mental health and I'm Angry, I need to train! I'm going to use this pain and anger in my fight training and Heal my mind and then hopefully my Body will heal.🥋👊🌋⛰🌄🌌