I see why Gatland is happy that’s a lot of potential he’s uncovered out of literally nothing in Wales … Again!!! He deserves tons of credit he’s the Ferguson of Rugby
I actually thought we were pretty good considering the new players. We butchered a few chances but you could see the intent was there. Definitely better than last year when it seems there was little to know intent to play any rugby. Could've easily let that one slip away
A slight feeling of relief at the win. Ugly, but a win in the end. I'll ignore the reffing, with one exception, which was when Chessum was taken off for an HIA, as I'm pretty sure that Rio made contact with his head when he was tackled and nothing was looked at. I'm always ready to admit I'm wrong, but . . . One player I do like is Cunningham South. Looks like the real deal with a great future, especially as he's only 20. Watching the Italy/Ireland match as I type. It's obvious that England softened Italy up last week, making it relatively easy for Ireland . . . 😉😉😅
can someone explain to me why Borthwick took off Mitchell when he was breaking the gain line and getting through gaps constantly near the end of the game and he took him off for Danny Care............ also why we not using Waboso and Fin Smith sooner give them game time!!!!!!
England looked good at time, Mitchell played well. The killer instinct in good positions will come. Theres going to be ups and downs have to trust the process
@Tomokos123 depressing they had all the momentum in that first 10minutes and they kicked it twice when in touching distance of the try line. It shows a lack of ideas...kick by all means but let's mix it up
England making life hard for themselves yet again, there seems too much desperation about their play in some parts of that game, they really should have had more points at the start with all that early possession, can’t help thinking that they should of stuck with Smith at 10, just my opinion !
First 20 minutes,England kicked away possession 4times when we had overlaps in their 22. Slade and Daly are past their sell-by date. Borthwick’s been in the job a year and we have gone backwards. I can’t remember any England coach being given this much slack for such crappy performances. If anyone is happy with this rubbish we’re in real trouble. Another papering over the cracks job. Congratulations to Wales for being able to pass the ball properly in front of the man…something England backs can’t do. We have zero gas in the backline , except for the excellent Freeman. How Radwan is not in this team is mind boggling….but we don’t have the backline to feed him.
The actual difference was the Wales replacement hooker - Elias lost Wales this game, he missed 3 from 4 lineouts just like he did against Argentina in the WC QF! Should be his last cap until he learns how to find his own team mates in the line out!
England Rugby Football Union type of Playing System = Parking The Tractors🚜 Ireland Rugby Football Union type of playing system Total Football ☘️ No Parking Allowed !!
Very balanced guys, you want to listen to those RTE pundits comparing our team against the Irish, talk about gloating about how good they are. The day they get smacked down can't come soon enough, but I don't think it will be England at the moment, but our day will come.
@@gerardkelsh1011 You're far too educated for me my friend, but for sure it was meant in a sporting sense, and I'm not into digging around for clever answers.
@@markfoster1493 it's not that clever. It's an IRA phrase. But you're not talking about rugby. You're talking about gloating. And it's not even coming from the Ireland team according to you. I think there's a dark place in your heart that won't let you enjoy the rugby for it's own sake.
Lovely to hear the disappointment in the Anti English sports media. Because Wales lost all of a sudden it wasn't a good game? Well when the welsh were winning it was buzzing. Well done lads it's great to beat the Welsh, beat the ref and beat the 'English' sports media.
To be fair to wales that call was never a line out to England he on purpose pushed him out he looked him dead in the eye and pushed him out whilst he was still in the air
@@stlmiles2000 Well, the first yellow is not a yellow at all and the penalty try...come on. No warning, first offence and loads of defence back there. It wasn't a penalty try.
@@benrawson007 the first yellow id agree theres an argument against, on first viewing i thought it was soft as he is dipping and i dont think theres any malice from chessum but ultimately hes flown in and made direct contact with his shoulder to the head so given the law it is a yellow. The second is the most blatant penalty try and yellow you must be having a laugh, its so cynical and obvious, clearly bringing down a mall which is inevitably heading towards the line, have a bit of sense.
As an Irish fan I think steward is a world class fullback and George ford was brilliant once again If England had curry, Manu and Farrell I think they could win the title but without them it’s a stretch. Wish Marcus fraud was fit for the Ireland game I’d much rather we had to play him instead of ford who’s criminally underrated.
@@angelaizen2231runs sideways and sidesteps and gets nowhere . He looks great in domestic league but hasn’t even looked good for England or for Quinn’s in Europe. He’s a poor man’s quade cooper
@@eoin8156 that's doesn't make him a fraud. He's barely played for England. It takes any player time to get used to international rugby. No one is amazing in the first 10-20 games.
WHY ..WHY..DO WE GIVE THESE PENALTIES......AND COLLLECT TWO YELLOW CARDS......PLAYING WITH 13 MEN AT ONE POINT........WE MUST BE MORE DISCIPLINED ON THE FIELD......
Very boring game, very inexperienced Welsh team versing a highly experienced England team was thinking 27-10 to England. Earls and raffel only stand outs apart from that boring! Wales have Jarrod Evans and sheedy both very good 10s not even in the named team makes me laugh! Wales have opted for 2nd and 3rd picks for club teams let alone starting at international level. Well done England from a Welsh man 👏
Neither are eligible to play for wales, Sheedy moves to Cardiff at the end of the season and will be eligible. Both Ioan Lloyd and Cai Evans start nearly all games for their regions
@@stlmiles2000 I’m talking about Sam Costello he was second pick for scarlets an abysmal team any way. And the prob we had is 3rd choice for Bath, mason Grady doesn’t start for blues and usually comes on half time for the wing or centre position. A lot of these boys are not the first picks for club. My point is we don’t have the talent to choose from as it is but the few good players are alienated because of a coaches stupid rule.
@@jamesgill9223 I agree with the point your making and I too think the rule should be scrapped but all your evidence is wrong, Costelow has been first choice Fly Half for Scarlets for the past few seasons, has just missed the first half of this season through injury, could argue he shouldn't be selected to start for Wales based on that but we really don't have any other eligible options. And Madon Grady starts the majority of Cardiffs games, usually on the wing this season but has been in great form. Its frustrating but there simply isn't the depth to do anything other than what's being done with selection given the 25 cap rule
England cheated because they are snobby and the fans are snobby too thinking they are the superior team in the world which is cobblers because South Africa won in the semi finals last year in the World Cup and should have won by much much more and all the international rugby teams with the exception of England play with class regardless of the outcome so if anyone responded to my comments again, I shall report it to the appropriate authorities, thank you.
New system a promise of entertaining rugby, two games scored 4 try’s conceded 5 try’s , is the new defence system working ? This game was the worst 6 nations game so far. So many mistakes and so much bad rugby…
This Wales team have scary potential, hang in there there they are going to be very good!!
They've been saying that for decades. Don't talk wet. They lost. Potential my ar*e.
Are you out of your mind?
I think we watched a different game lol
Scary if you're a Welsh fan
Keep telling yourself that ........
such a great balanced and measured analysis. From initial viewing looks like biggar has a great pundit career ahead.
Dan Biggar, the roy keane, gary neville of rugby . Such smart analysis and so sure of himself like on the rugby field, well ✔️ done👏
I see why Gatland is happy that’s a lot of potential he’s uncovered out of literally nothing in Wales … Again!!! He deserves tons of credit he’s the Ferguson of Rugby
😅😅 you mean the David Moyes of Welsh rugby. Change his name to Warren Shatland 😂😂😂
This is a great punditry team. ITV you’ve got a good one here. Don’t mess it up.
As usual its a welsh love fest.
Congrats to England. Wales can only get better and so will England. Nice to see for both teams. the auld enema is next.
As a neutral that was fairly grim viewing. The only saving grace is it wasnt as bad as the Scotland v france game
That was a game of Rugby. If its an open and attacking game it normally means one teams getting tonked.
Both teams are work in progress. In 2 years time? These 2 teams will be scary good.
@@DannyG-cv8so Wales will be roughly the same. England will have made solid progress
@@MusclesNOTtattoostypical English
@@Joker-yw9hl yep
Aaaah Johnny, isn’t it?, wasn’t it?, marvellous.
We did really well to win. Bloody good effort.
I actually thought we were pretty good considering the new players. We butchered a few chances but you could see the intent was there. Definitely better than last year when it seems there was little to know intent to play any rugby. Could've easily let that one slip away
England play like its still 1991
Lucky Wales also play rugby from 1991
If it ain't broke, don't fix it
how so? remember we won the world cup in 2003. Thoughts?
Good !! Rugby was always more exciting before all the newer rules interrupting the flow. HOORAY for ENGLAND ❤
@@MusclesNOTtattoosyou won the world cup, I would never had known that, thanks for telling us.
Rules are killing the game this is what I clearly see from all these first games
They need a dozen games, give or take, to be really good. Fun to watch.
The thing is, game management does matter a lot BUT, Ireland make forward progress by playing with skill in the backs.
very mature interview from captain jones
YIPPPEEE WELL DONE DARLING ENGLAND 💕
A slight feeling of relief at the win. Ugly, but a win in the end. I'll ignore the reffing, with one exception, which was when Chessum was taken off for an HIA, as I'm pretty sure that Rio made contact with his head when he was tackled and nothing was looked at. I'm always ready to admit I'm wrong, but . . . One player I do like is Cunningham South. Looks like the real deal with a great future, especially as he's only 20.
Watching the Italy/Ireland match as I type. It's obvious that England softened Italy up last week, making it relatively easy for Ireland . . . 😉😉😅
england being mentioned as a young team Dan Cole, George ford, Danny Care, joe marler 😂😂😂.
Bitter Much? 😘
Average age 36
It's a good mixture of experience and new.
can someone explain to me why Borthwick took off Mitchell when he was breaking the gain line and getting through gaps constantly near the end of the game and he took him off for Danny Care............ also why we not using Waboso and Fin Smith sooner give them game time!!!!!!
Well done England.
England looked good at time, Mitchell played well. The killer instinct in good positions will come. Theres going to be ups and downs have to trust the process
Do England have an attack coach?
So rumour has it!
He is very inexperienced as a coach 😔 Should have had longer than a year at club level to prove himself.
no we dont, wigglesworth is as close as it gets which is terrible our game plan in attack is kick the ball away 5m out from try line.
@Tomokos123 depressing they had all the momentum in that first 10minutes and they kicked it twice when in touching distance of the try line.
It shows a lack of ideas...kick by all means but let's mix it up
Dan Biggar's first comments were nullified by Ireland today. Ireland defended and attacked and played beautiful off load rugby.
Jonny confuses me with his analysis 😵💫
You just must be confused then 😂
Puts me to sleep, God he's boring.
Can the presenters have a stab of pronouncing Dafydd correctly. Dav + with (but lose the 'w') :)
So davith?
No, average age 25, 5 new caps at the start and each one is standing up and performing, what are they going to be like with some experience!
England with all their experience were clueless with the ball. Wales should have controlled it better
We weren't clueless in the second half.
England making life hard for themselves yet again, there seems too much desperation about their play in some parts of that game, they really should have had more points at the start with all that early possession, can’t help thinking that they should of stuck with Smith at 10, just my opinion !
England front row had 168 caps and Wales 8!!! England are poor Wales have potential
First 20 minutes,England kicked away possession 4times when we had overlaps in their 22. Slade and Daly are past their sell-by date. Borthwick’s been in the job a year and we have gone backwards. I can’t remember any England coach being given this much slack for such crappy performances. If anyone is happy with this rubbish we’re in real trouble. Another papering over the cracks job. Congratulations to Wales for being able to pass the ball properly in front of the man…something England backs can’t do. We have zero gas in the backline , except for the excellent Freeman. How Radwan is not in this team is mind boggling….but we don’t have the backline to feed him.
Henry Slade is not good enough
George Ford has no arsehole when it comes to pressure .
The actual difference was the Wales replacement hooker - Elias lost Wales this game, he missed 3 from 4 lineouts just like he did against Argentina in the WC QF!
Should be his last cap until he learns how to find his own team mates in the line out!
Can we have more scrums please and est up more of the play time ....pointless
England did fairly well bearing in mind the ref was clearly rooting for the welsh.
Clearly 😴
Abysmal ref
England Rugby Football Union type of Playing System = Parking The Tractors🚜
Ireland Rugby Football Union type of playing system Total Football ☘️ No Parking Allowed !!
Steward needs to play 12
Why ? So he can go around the middle tripping himself up every 5m 😂
What? He's a class 15.
Northern Hemisphere not up to standard as was displayed at Rugby World Cup 2023.
Very balanced guys, you want to listen to those RTE pundits comparing our team against the Irish, talk about gloating about how good they are. The day they get smacked down can't come soon enough, but I don't think it will be England at the moment, but our day will come.
Lol. Do you know what organisation uses the phrase " our day will come"?
@@gerardkelsh1011 You're far too educated for me my friend, but for sure it was meant in a sporting sense, and I'm not into digging around for clever answers.
@@markfoster1493 it's not that clever. It's an IRA phrase. But you're not talking about rugby. You're talking about gloating. And it's not even coming from the Ireland team according to you. I think there's a dark place in your heart that won't let you enjoy the rugby for it's own sake.
In reality a poor game .England shut it down fair play to them ..They are not great in possession though ..
Lovely to hear the disappointment in the Anti English sports media. Because Wales lost all of a sudden it wasn't a good game? Well when the welsh were winning it was buzzing. Well done lads it's great to beat the Welsh, beat the ref and beat the 'English' sports media.
To be fair to wales that call was never a line out to England he on purpose pushed him out he looked him dead in the eye and pushed him out whilst he was still in the air
Well said cheeseman up the Anglo Saxons - they all hate us because they were not born in England's green and pleasant land
You ain't going to win another game this 6 nations.
@@davidpearn2484 I've screenshotted these comments. Let's see 🤣🤣
As a neutral, that game may have been close but it was turgid viewing.
Not good enough Wales, in fact pizz poor
The scoreboard flattered wales massively. Could have easily been almost 20 nill to England if not the the crazy ref in the first half.
🤣🤣 you must have been watching another game pal, either that or you need help
@@stlmiles2000 Well, the first yellow is not a yellow at all and the penalty try...come on. No warning, first offence and loads of defence back there. It wasn't a penalty try.
@@benrawson007 the first yellow id agree theres an argument against, on first viewing i thought it was soft as he is dipping and i dont think theres any malice from chessum but ultimately hes flown in and made direct contact with his shoulder to the head so given the law it is a yellow. The second is the most blatant penalty try and yellow you must be having a laugh, its so cynical and obvious, clearly bringing down a mall which is inevitably heading towards the line, have a bit of sense.
England are judged on a different rule book to everyone else 🙄
@@060stick I really hope that's sarcasm...
The Welsh are not of the Standard of England, they made a effort but that’s all it was just a effort.
refereeing in this match was abysmal! just made up the rules as he went along!
NZ ref....nuff said
As an Irish fan I think steward is a world class fullback and George ford was brilliant once again
If England had curry, Manu and Farrell I think they could win the title but without them it’s a stretch.
Wish Marcus fraud was fit for the Ireland game I’d much rather we had to play him instead of ford who’s criminally underrated.
Marcus Smith is a class 10. He's an absolute menace to defence lines. Calling him a fraud is just impertinent
@@angelaizen2231runs sideways and sidesteps and gets nowhere .
He looks great in domestic league but hasn’t even looked good for England or for Quinn’s in Europe.
He’s a poor man’s quade cooper
@@eoin8156 that's doesn't make him a fraud. He's barely played for England. It takes any player time to get used to international rugby. No one is amazing in the first 10-20 games.
@@eoin8156 also, he's been great for quins in Europe. Have you even watched any on it?
How england got to Semi final ill never know ,absolutely abysmal team ,ireland will bully them off the field at Twickenham!!
Yet Ireland have never been passed the quarter finals 😂
Dreadful game.
Another slug fest 😞
Wales have as much potential as Jesse Lingard did 15 years ago
Yet England were at full strength & only just won 😂😂
@@pauldavies7251 but we won
The skill level on show was so poor. You can play how you want but at test match level you want to see a level of excellence.
George Ford and Steward were very skillful today
Lost cause of Gatland descion to bring Elias on. Lost cause Gatland obessed with kicking thete is no point in kicking to Steward.
WHY ..WHY..DO WE GIVE THESE PENALTIES......AND COLLLECT TWO YELLOW CARDS......PLAYING WITH 13 MEN AT ONE POINT........WE MUST BE MORE DISCIPLINED ON THE FIELD......
Very boring game, very inexperienced Welsh team versing a highly experienced England team was thinking 27-10 to England. Earls and raffel only stand outs apart from that boring!
Wales have Jarrod Evans and sheedy both very good 10s not even in the named team makes me laugh!
Wales have opted for 2nd and 3rd picks for club teams let alone starting at international level.
Well done England from a Welsh man 👏
Neither are eligible to play for wales, Sheedy moves to Cardiff at the end of the season and will be eligible. Both Ioan Lloyd and Cai Evans start nearly all games for their regions
@@stlmiles2000 I’m talking about Sam Costello he was second pick for scarlets an abysmal team any way. And the prob we had is 3rd choice for Bath, mason Grady doesn’t start for blues and usually comes on half time for the wing or centre position. A lot of these boys are not the first picks for club.
My point is we don’t have the talent to choose from as it is but the few good players are alienated because of a coaches stupid rule.
@@jamesgill9223 I agree with the point your making and I too think the rule should be scrapped but all your evidence is wrong, Costelow has been first choice Fly Half for Scarlets for the past few seasons, has just missed the first half of this season through injury, could argue he shouldn't be selected to start for Wales based on that but we really don't have any other eligible options. And Madon Grady starts the majority of Cardiffs games, usually on the wing this season but has been in great form. Its frustrating but there simply isn't the depth to do anything other than what's being done with selection given the 25 cap rule
R and R rules and ref's are snuffing the game out. I might after 50 years be goin to the darkside an watching league instead lol.
England trying to do it like the Springboks 🤣🤣 They can't because they 💩
Yet we won 2 on bounce and got to semis when people said we wouldn't
springboks pay the refs and tmo to win games
@@Tomokos123 You a ""doos""!!!!Your💩team will NEVER win us in a final at the World Cup 😊😊😊Borrow a few of our players then you might come somewhere 😉🤡
Absolute bore fest
England cheated because they are snobby and the fans are snobby too thinking they are the superior team in the world which is cobblers because South Africa won in the semi finals last year in the World Cup and should have won by much much more and all the international rugby teams with the exception of England play with class regardless of the outcome so if anyone responded to my comments again, I shall report it to the appropriate authorities, thank you.
ITV pick the most boring pundits in rugby.
Haha northern hemisphere just can’t do it bruv wait till the men in black come north and show you running rugby
Didn't the ABs get hammered by Ireland in a series at home? 😂
@@SolarMumuns quarter final ? What haha
Boks will silence you all
🥱
Bok luck will run out eventually.
Thanks for coming.
Didn't ask
ofcourse the boks will silence everyone, everyone already knows they pay the ref and tmo to win games.
New system a promise of entertaining rugby, two games scored 4 try’s conceded 5 try’s , is the new defence system working ? This game was the worst 6 nations game so far. So many mistakes and so much bad rugby…