'70 Pontiac LeMans, The Woes Continue! 461 Pontiac runs GREAT... then doesn't! Trans problems?
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- čas přidán 13. 09. 2024
- Ever heard the phrase one step forward, and two steps back? Well that seem to apply particularly well to our Pontiac LeMans project here and what is beginning to feel like a bit of a curse. Not familiar with this Poncho yet? Well it's been sitting since late summer so you may or may not have ever seen it, a little quick back story.
What you see here is a 1970 Pontiac LeMans with a "beautiful" patina but otherwise a very solid car. Floors are good, frame is good, body panels have just a little bit of surface rust. When we picked the car up a number of years ago one of the main things that drew us to THIS particular machine is what was under the hood. Gone is whatever powerplant that originally was in this car replaced with a 1972 Pontiac 455 block topped with 1976 Pontiac 6X heads, arguably one of the best combinations you can put together for budget Tin Indian power. Unfortunately shortly after purchasing the car some issues cropped up that made us question a few things so the engine and transmission were removed to be rebuilt.
The engine went to a company we were doing engine building with at the time Performance Research Inc and the TH350 or "Turbo 350" transmission was sent to Metro Transmissions for refreshing and upgrades to handle the planned power. After the engine build was complete and runs made on their engine dyno the engine and transmission were reinstalled in the car and it was ready to enjoy mid summer 2021.
Unfortunately as you'll quickly see after a few hundred miles, one awesome burnout at Indian Uprising 2021, and a couple lunch drives, something went terrible terribly wrong.
So what happened? Is the extremely expensive engine alright? Did the freshly rebuilt transmission fail? Is there something wrong with our big bad Boss Hog Outlaw torque converter from ACC? Did we put something together wrong? Just what took this thing off the road, and how expensive is it going to be to fix?! Come along and let's start answering some questions!
I am always a fan of a Pontiac that still has a Pontiac engine in it.
Oh yes sir, there was never any question about this thing staying Poncho. Even still has the Q Jet on top!
I second this
@@blainesnider9089 typically speaking we ALWAYS keep our Pontiacs powered by Pontiacs 😀 You'll see quite a few of them in and out of here this year
Nice car!
Thank you! She's coming together nicely. ❤
OMG!!! I was wondering where this car had been! :(
Yeahhhhhh it's been sitting relaxing for the last few months while we've been super busy. Didn't want to address the potential massive costs at the moment
Don't overthink the problem guys. It definitely has a broken torque converter. When he removed it with a prybar it probably freed up. He also said when he unbolted the torque converter from the flywheel there was no pump clearance. The internals of the torque converter seemed jammed onto the shafts.
Valve body applying forward and reverse at the same time
That was a thought as well, but why would that stall the engine down and not function as a transbreak?
That sucks... And Metro isn't even there to help or consult. They rebuilt my 4L80E in the C10 and did a great job. Hope you get it figured out.
Exactly 😞 Would really really like them to go over this thing but... we'll see. We've always been very happy with all the work they did for us.
Lol pump gears exploded. I've had to weld a nut to the converter pilot and use a slide hammer to pull converters
Guys I think he's your converter
That's where we were thinking originally but from what we can tell the converter SEEMS fine. Obviously without cutting it open only so much we can see/do. However this is a SERIOUS converter and it would be odd... but it's possible
Don't quote me on this but I had a similar problem with my 1968 GTO 4speed stick shift all original few modifications it was cutting out on me came to find out. it was a fusible link. if your car has one you need to replace it with 12 gauge fusible link. THANK GOD.it's been great ever since. Hope this helps
Get a B&M drain plug for the pan
Definitely could stand for a trans pan upgrade 😞
If it shuts off as soon as you put it in gear it's because you ran the distributor power wire to a fuse that can handle the voltage you have to run the power wire to a fuse that works only when you turn the car on like reverse lights...if your running points I have no clue...
Interesting thought... but nope that's not it! 😀 For reference though, it's running an MSD ProBillet distributor and MSD 6AL box
you need to get warrantee from your transmission builder lol
Unfortunately the transmission builder we used to use is retired and no longer in business. 😞 That was one layer of the icing on this cake
Is the glitter shavings or coating material? Aluminum dust...waiting to find out...
It SEEMS like aluminum. But no visible marks on the case or anything so...
That old saying.. chrome don’t get you home.. 😉
There's NO new Chrome on this thing! Tried to leave it as tired looking and Ratty as possibel But yes that saying is 100% correct, being pretty is no replacement!
“Cause it hurts my soul” 😭
There were moments in this where my heart was in my shoes
Sounds like the converter locked up
It's very possible, unfortunately can't tell without cutting it open. So when we hear, we'll report back. There's a follow up video that's live after this one if you're interested
Precision Transmission could shed some light on your issue. He also has a CZcams channel.
Ohhhh really? What are you thinking?
@@LucoreAuto I’m not familiar with turbo 350, one of his videos helped me diagnose an issue with an 80E we suspected wasn’t as advertised.
internal converter. probably broke that aluminum stator inside its just released while tearing down. I've broken 3 on my t-350 behind 454 in blazer. the fluid looked the same silver rose metallic like the paint on a 21 Caddy.
That looks like a Chevy TH350 ? I'm not sure how you had it behind the Poncho mill ?
Indeed Sir it is, there's an adapter plate on the back of the block to convert from Pontiac to Chevy patterns. One of several INTERESTING things discovered after purchase
Get a BOP 400 spank the credit card now!
Love it ! Perfect patina
Thank you! Finally someone who understands! 😀 Going to clear it and leave it amazing! 😀
I'm betting the valve body was getting stuck between reverse and first gear.
THAT is somewhere our minds are starting to go as well, if it were engaging both 1st and reverse... however would that STOP the engine?
@@LucoreAuto yup! Happened to me in 86
Good luck with it. Very cool old Pontiac
Thank you Sir, when it's working right its going to be an awesome machine. Unfortunately it seems to be really REALLY not in the mood to work properly since all the rebuilding
HELL Yea love the old Pontiac Hey check out pole barn garage he's building a bullet hole filled GTO road kill style check it out cool dude like u man good car people
The third member went pop?
So far there's no evidence of anything going pop or crunch, aside from the obvious silver in the trans pan.
Whoever rebuilt it put one of the little balls in the wrong spot. Fried torque converter and they are gonna play dumb.
How come you have a Chevrolet bell housing transmission with a Pontiac engine
Previous owner(s) had done a whole lot of swapping in this car before we got our hands on it. Good catch though!
@@LucoreAuto A Chevy bellhousing won't bolt to a Pontiac engine. Would you care to explain?
Does it have a adapter plate on the bellhousing flange on rear of the engine?
I actually find this real life scenario fascinating. Im excited to see more!
Good! Glad to hear it 😀 You're watching this in real time too, HOPEFULLY middle of this coming week there's more to the story to share!
Convertor/pump interface issues?
Don't believe so. Ran like a rocket for 400ish miles, until, it didn't.
What is it about old muscle cars? Can't get enough of them. More popular now than ever
There's just so much more "experience" to them than just getting from point A to point B. Smells, sounds, feelings, drama, its just so much more. This particular car is actually going to be my daily during good weather also so that should be even more interesting. Spreading cheer at 8mpg! 😀
Rear-end locking
Nope, toss it in neutral rolls just fine
Why are you not using Hughes Vickers I am in New York and I am
Oh there's a VERY good chance that Vickers gets involved in this process! The transmission was rebuilt well before we were connected with them through another local shop we did a considerable amount of work with.
A Hughes converter is certainly not off the table either at this point!
Need to set you up a go fund me a transmission account! LOL!
Lol very possibly!
I have never had one do that. Hope you find the problem.
Neither have we, believe me when I say when I happened it was NOT a good feeling! We'll keep you all informed on what's up, this thing needs to be ready for spring!
@@LucoreAuto
I have owned 3 GTOs and 2 LeMans sport coupes. Loved them. What transmission are you putting back in?
one way stator clutch in converter locked up.
Hey I got 2 pontiac rally 2s with center caps and beauty rings you can have.
We have the beauty rings for the back, they are just a pain. Plus, it looks a bit meaner with them off in the rear don't you think? 🤔
Don't be trying to give us free stuff now, we aren't good at saying no! 😀
@@LucoreAuto lol it does look good. If you want them I'll bring them to you I don't need them anyway and I'm trying to make more space in my garage so I can start filmingthis build. I think they are dated 77 or 78.
@@eric63377 well you are certainly welcome to drop by any time 😀
@@LucoreAuto Are you open this Sunday or Saturday?
You need to fix uo things anyway to get it track ready so now is the time to do it.
That’s a badass LeMans. I have a 70 tempest myself all Pontiac power as well. I got some center caps I could send you for those rally’s
Thank you! Would be really nice if it didn't keep leaving my stranded and demanding handfuls of money! This started out as a "I want a daily drive-able muscle car" ... and rapidly became a full build. Now I'm well down the slippery slope of too much power and breaking things 😞
I actually DO have some center caps just haven't run them on the car for a while since the wheels keep having to come off 😀
I’m kinda in that same boat. I’m making maybe 450 hp and no stall converter and a 2:73 rear gear it’s like driving a blower car if I don’t put in neutral at a stoplight your gonna get whiplash! Lol. But anyway your very welcome! You’ll enjoy the hell out of that Pontiac when you get all the bugs worked out
Transmissions are black magic to me. I've got an 88 F250 I'm rebuilding and I'm swapping out the 302 for a 351W. I keep getting conflicting information about whether I can use the original flexplate or need to get a new one. I don't want to grenade the transmission 100 feet down the road when I finally finish this thing!
Good luck, and thanks for another great video!
There's certainly some wizardry and hydraulic mystery going on inside those cases to make tires spin. We didn't want to get TOO far into the weeds with that part. We're actually doing a 351 project here in the not too distant future ourselves, be interested to know what you find out. Would imagine they use the same flexplate since those motors are so similar but don't know for sure... on a similar subject actually Monday or Wednesday we are doing a video about Ford Flex Plates that WE just learned the hard way. Might be interesting for you!
@@LucoreAuto Every video you guys post is interesting to me, but that one sounds like it should be awesome!
What headers did you fit to the A body
These are Flowtech headers with their ceramic coating, so far very VERY happy with them
@@LucoreAuto Thank you, Great video content
@@paultaktikian1485 Glad you enjoyed it, lots more coming soon we aren't giving up on this Poncho!
Okay, shuts down when put in gear = torque converter failed.
That's our initial thought and assessment as well it's just... really really odd the way it failed, the loss of high gear... just odd. And, this is a DAMN good converter company!
@@LucoreAuto These things happen I guess. High (3rd?) lost to debris in valve body?
Maybe the stator was aluminum, different stator castings with various pitches...
This is a dream car of mine and dragway 42 is my home away from home. I'm only 25 minutes from there
Glad you like it, should be a fun fair weather daily for next year! Having raced at 42 in high school it's amazing to see the quality of the NEW 42. Hopefully it'll be back up there for fun in the spring!
I'll bet the converter is gone and the valve body needs to be cleaned out or replaced with a new actuator
Go with a manual! Don’t have that problem! 😂
Problem with doing a manual swap is its DAMN expensive to put something in this thing that won't shatter from the piles of torque... there IS a manual Pontiac project or two waiting in the wings though
The stator seized in the convertor. Make sure the adaptor plate is square and the bell housing after that make sure you have the right converter spacing things change with adapter plates.also the 350 won't last long behind that 461 drag racing it
It certainly seems to be converter related, there's a follow up video to this one if you haven't seen it yet. Not PLANNING to drag race this one, it's just a big loud comfortable cruiser. Well... at least that's the plan! 😀
Bad kenuter valve. I used to have a 69 lemans 455 th400 12bolt 4:11 posi. Miss that torque monster.
Well that sucks. I would at first think pump do to lack of movement but more like torque convertor due to stalling, if that trans was just rebuilt it sure is dirty. Just remember it's only money. Will watch some more vids 👌
The level of freaked out I was when this thing SHUT OFF at the stoplight I can't even begin to tell you. I've got $9,000 in the motor under the hood of this thing... and 3 years... and have driven it only a couple hundred miles. My heart was in my shoes until I turned the key and saw oil pressure.
@@LucoreAuto I bet first thought was motor locked up. I feel u I have hurt my motor more times than I like to admit
@@cfmechanic oh for sure. INSTANTLY oh God oh God I broke this monster and all this money and work has gone to waste. Still dont know for sure that I HAVEN'T hurt the motor but it seems to still run fine. Time will tell though
I had a sprag break in my convertor that went through the front pump
Initial inspection pump looks just fine as do all the hard parts. We were thinking maybe converter but this is a billybadass converter way overkill for what we've asked of it. And we can manually spin the converter both ways... 😞
@@LucoreAuto planetary gear failure will lock up the transmission. Something could have dislodged during disassemble ?
@@gerrymilidantri6457 suppose that's possible, or got dislodged. There is definitely a LOT of material in the pan and it SEEMS to not be magnetic... ?
seems like a torque convertor the way it is acting as soon as it was put in gear it chirped the tire and stalled the engine, gives new mean to lockup torque convertor
That's where our initial thoughts went too but even THAT doesn't make sense. If the converter failed and welded itself together, the car shouldn't be able to restart. And... what was the metallic "tink" sound and why the loss of high gear?
@@LucoreAuto The converter can spin the shaft until it is put into gear allowing it to start then there is pressure on the clutches connecting the torque converter directly to the drive shaft and it stalls the engine. As to losing high gear I have not seen that happen but the stalling as soon as it was put in gear I have encountered and it was in the torque convertor
Yep, converter is seized.
@@LucoreAuto loss of high gear due to debris in valve body?
OK now this goes way back to the 70's, but I had a dodge van with a 318 that had nearly the same thing happen. After tearing it all down we were stumped until we started to put a straightedge on the bell housing.... it was warped, probably what way for a while (bought it used). Ended up just junking it as it was a POS anyway.
Hmmmmm the bell housing was warped? What was hitting or binding up with what?
Love me some ponchos, i have owned my 69 gto for 30 years. Mine has a 70 455 with ported 96 heads and a th400 with a 10 inch continental converter. Hope you get it figured out, first time i have seen an issue like this. Trans definently not happy, hope u get it sorted and back rumblin!
After watching the full video, I'm thinking the torque converter getting stuck somehow... Anything warped? Out of balance? A valve stuck?? That glitter didn't look right...sometimes a little, but the cream color?? Scratching my head on that unless moisture got in there somewhere!?
Valve body is all good, cleaned and checked everything. Only thing stuck is the 1-2 override valve when manual shifting which was done to allow hot rodding. Nothing SEEMS warped or unbalanced but, hard to say inside that converter? The glitter is an interesting mix of aluminum and what seems to be clutch material, which is odd given these clutches appear almost perfect. We'll have an answer or at least an update on this thing by Wednesday!
Maybe 10 inch converter overheated and cooked? Will be interesting. Go Bengals!
That was an initial worry with going to the smaller converter, that's why we have 2 trans coolers in the loop. And external AND the one inside the radiator
Get aTH 400 Shorty.
Ideally yes... unfortunately this was trying to be a bit of a "budget build" which rapidly became a ... not so budget build.
@@LucoreAuto I had a 70 Lemans sport coupe(title) in 82, same color and it buried the 130/speedo, goodtimes !
Gonna run a 3 speed automatic always run a 400 Theres a reason chrysler puts them in there drag paks lol
Yeahhhhhh believe me wish this build had been done with a TH400 or better but we were initially doing a "keep it what it was" kind of build
Turbo 400 is better built!!!! Needs better converter n gears!!! Big block ponchos make goobbs of mid range power will eat that Trans up quickly n if racein it powerglide!!!! Hands down !!!
this got any history in washington state? looks like one i had undermy trees YEARS ago
Hmmmmm not that I know of, but possible? This one came out of Richmond Virginia 4 years ago
You have a Chevy Turbo 350 not a BOP trans. Too bad you live so far away cause I have a Brand New 200R4 with a 2500 stall TC. I had planned to put it in my 71 LeMans with a 455. I'd only ask $1500 oh well
Good catch Sir! Yes it is a Chevy TH350, the previous owner or owners had already done that. Honestly part of what attracted me to the car as it wasn't "all original" so we could do whatever the heck we want with it and not feel bad.
A 200R4 is certainly a possibility though... just kinda sucks after putting all this money into the TH350 😞
Ya I know about the money! I built my turbo 350 in technical school in 87 and still works. No kick down cable and pressure about 190-200psi. Shifts like a monster! Lol
You should really get a turbo 400 behind that, Yep.
I agree
Not arguing with you there, would definitely have been the better way to go. This IS a built B&M TH350 that was locally refreshed for us unfortunately we still were in "budget" mind at that point of the build...
Realistically it'll go 4L if it gets transmission swapped at this point. She makes some serious torque
@@LucoreAuto I hear ya there i have drag race a few of my own bilds an money always an issue
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How are you so fast?! Freaking magic man over here!
I know what the problem is, the 455 is rejecting the mayfair maize, I ran into the same problem with my 65 GTO. Had to paint it pearl blue to get it to work right. I am guessing at the start of the video.. Stuck valve, or a welded/not releasing clutch pack. 8 minutes in and I bet you ballooned the converter.. I did that once too. I see a problem already at 9 minutes.. chevy Th350 case. Which adapter did you guys use?
The 455 in my 65 keeps killing transmissions. 4L70 from a diesel Suburban, killed it. Th400, killed it. Th350 blows through 3rd and its gonna kill it, but I stuffed it in just to drive it around last summer. I figure I need a TKO since its originally a manual trans car, but $3000 is holding me up. When I can finally put a 5 gear in it, I need to never go WOT ever again.
Do a Th400 instead of a Th350. Use a BOP case too.. it eliminates lots of problems. I have a core about 15 hours north if you want one...
Well... only 1/3rd of the car has been "painted" so maybe it's an argument between the front 1/3rd and the rest of it? There has been SOME conversation about painting it but I think this particular ride the most it will get is some clearcoat to protect that patina it's earned.
Funny you mention ballooning the converter, this particular unit is rated for 1000+ horsepower and has anti ballooning plates. So, that SHOULDN'T be an issue. The stuck valve thing, that's a possibility... currently going through the valve body now to see if there's something we don't like. ALL of the clutches still look fresh and there's not sign of overheating...
The adapter came with the car, this thing is a crazy mutt of parts ... which is one of the reasons we bought it. Nothing matches so we can do whatever we want and not feel bad 😀
@@LucoreAuto I usually buy rusted rolling shells, partly because the entry cost is a lot lower and I have plenty of time to do the work, and I can build it the way I want it. Only have two pre 1979 cars with number matching engines, the 72 GTO and the 72 455 HO Formula. Have three 79 Trans Ams with the original engines in them, but they are all 403s. Everything else either came with a 350 or an empty engine bay. The Cuda is a 318 car as far as we know, has a 340 now, but I didn't build that one. I'm just its caretaker.
I had a Boss Hogg converter in a 700R4, it made it about 600 miles and dumped stuff in the trans. Something went away inside it. I didn't cut it apart to find out, but chunks in the pump means the TC died. I build all my transmissions, and also a few for friends, had a shop back in the 90s where I did lots of them. That is the only one I ever had where the TC killed the trans. Could be a fluke, not ripping on them. Also my 455 ballooned it with a 3.42 gear behind it, the stall kept going up and up every time I would hit it.
455s are rough on transmissions, particularly in heavy cars like a 70 GTO or LeMans. My 70 GTO is 4100lbs, and its a no AC car too. Hardly any interior in that thing so I have no idea where all the weight is.
Back in the 90s everyone said a Vega TC was the way to go for a cheap stall. I put one behind a 11:1 400 in my 79 Formula with a 4.10 gear. The first stall was 3000ish, the second one nearly 4000, then 4500, then 5000, then it wouldn't even spin the tires. I put an L88 style unit in it, they call them 400 high stall TCs, was only $120 from the local trans shop back then and gave me a 1900-2200 stall behind 400s and 455s. More than 2500 with a 455 is wasting torque, so they worked quite well. Drove like a stock unit, until you opened it up.
What yours was doing sounded like the VB had a stuck valve that allowed reverse to be applied with forward gears, kinda like a trans brake does. I had one of my Th350s weld the forward clutch pack together, thanks to the ex standing on the throttle when it was slipping from low fluid. Put it in reverse and it would kill the engine, it would also move forward in neutral.
Im from omg lol
Thanks for dropping by! Feel free to look around!
Gm only installed two transmission that were good,the powerglide and Muncie 4spd.
4l80 time
Would LOVE to but that is NOT a cheap swap! 😞
Please do more on the amx ...... love love love that car...my dad had a new one in 79...it had the flaming bird on the hood ..please indulge me
You'll actually see more on it next week, had planned to these past 2 weeks but it's soooooooo cold.... and there's still a giant hole in the roof. Also, as you'll see here, we have some rather unexpected expenses 😞
Why a gimpy 350 trans?
Simple. That's what it came with.
@@LucoreAuto and a pontiac 350 ,hope you get it going without to much trouble $, cool old pontiac .
Did it only stall when you had your foot off of the gas down to the idle speed?
It's not really a stall, its the engine basically being instantly dragged to a stop. It will do it at idle or higher, as soon as you drop into drive or reverse. Don't have the guts to drop it into gear above 2k
@@LucoreAuto wow now you got me really thinking about alot of things.
@@LucoreAuto I'm starting to think of a fuel problem. But the dragging down confused me.
There's got to be something wrong with the converter making it stall. You could also have a governor problem which caused which is why you lost high gear.
Converter seems the most likely culprit, and as you'll see in the follow up video it seems even more that way
Everything I know about automatic transmission can be placed on the head of a pin. I initially thought bad modulator valve but hearing it happen it sounds like a band or sun gear blew apart….
Our initial thoughts went... all over the place. All the hard parts and gears SEEM fine, everything spins nothing seems broken or missing
Awaiting part two
@@JMassengill part 2 may just be a 15 minute video of me adding up bills and crying 😢
Lucore Auto. Speed cost, how fast do you want to go or you got to pay to play.
@@JMassengill this INITIALLY was purchased as a "daily drive-able" 455 Poncho for my summer parts running and general shenanigans... then the motor came out... then while the motor was out the transmission went out "to to be checked".... and we haven't even gotten to steering/suspension/breaking yet 😞
you put a used Chevy trans and the engine rejects Chevy parts jaja
This is why you should do Manual transmissions.
Yeahhhhh Unfortunately that's an expensive conversion especially for the amount of torque this motor makes. There WILL be a monster Pontiac with a manual in it in the not toooooo distant future but, this one's more built for cruising and daily driver duty in the summer
Then the headers will be a problem. Ask me how I know
Now aren't you glad you didn't take this on power tour? I feel your hurt on this. Hope to see it cruising soon.
100% yes, made that same comment to Rich on Friday. Yes it sucks this happened and that the car went down. But this could have been SO much worse if it had happened 300 miles from home!
I've also exploded a few sprag races and busted the case a few times
Put a 400 trany for a 455 it will also run stronger.
take the trans to a rebuilder and get a quality convertor made,not off the shelf junk from jeg's.
that engine sounds like it has way too much cam for the street.
Transmission WAS at a quality rebuilder, the converter is a very high end hand made unit not an off the shelf junk, and it actually ran great on the street up until the failure
@@LucoreAuto there's that F word.
I think Biden did it!
..... actually a mystery problem with the tranny is kind of good...MUCH Better than a motor problem!
and now a cliff hanger episode! for Lucore Automotive!
Oh we'll definitely take a mystery in the transmission instead of the motor for SURE, just hoping said mystery hasn't migrated TO the motor with that sudden lock up and stopping. Still scratching our heads a bit over what went wrong really hoping to share a win with you all in short order!
How many years ago was that trans'rebuilt" ? so all that shiny debris in the filter is normal and that's why you can't find any faults?
Rebuilt 3 years ago, unfortunately this car has taken quite a bit longer to put back together than was planned. You cN see the whole thing start to finish on here if you are interested.
As for for shiny debris in the filter? No that very much is NOT normal especially after only a few hundred miles.
CONVERTER IS JUNK
Most of us thought the same thing at first but.. that just doesn't make sense. It still spins freely, and this unit is from a very good hand built made in the USA company... and HOW would the converter fail to make this happen?
Torque converter is junk😳
That's where our initial thoughts went as well but after pulling and inspecting it, hard to point the finger there. Where would the silver come from? And it still spins ... also keep in mind this is an expensive hand built in America converter with a power rating well in excess of what we are asking from it
@@LucoreAuto something locked in the converter, that’s the only thing that would cause that problem, even if something in the transmission welded it self together the converter would still slip and left the engine run , converters garbage!
I know nothing about automatic trans I`ll be waiting for part 2 to find out!!
They work on black magic and fluid dynamics 😉 Hopefully we have an exciting conclusion coming soon!
@@LucoreAuto I`ll stick with my 4 speed
@@billyray8062 once THIS Pontiac is finally behaving itself there's another one waiting in the yard that will be going 6 speed manual swapped.... but we also have I think 3 other Ponchos that will be rolling through here in the coming months 🤔
@@LucoreAuto Y`all always have cool cars around your shop.
Will be interesting to hear whats wrong as there doesnt seem to be anything wrong. Except someone might have dropped a Subaru camshaft into it.. And them blue valve covers, anything Ford related?
Lol nope no Ford parts involved in this build for sure. She's pretty much all Poncho. That camshaft situation STILL has us rather tripping out
Blue valve covers at 16:04 16:54 and at 17:57 you point at that engine that looks like a Ford Boss 429 but hey my eyesight is lousy at best and so is the knowledge about V8's to.
@@thatdudeinorange2297 ohhhhh gotcha! Yes you are correct there! That's a little bit of wild project to bring the "Hot Rod Lincoln" back to life. It's a 4.6 DOHC all aluminum motor
Buy a new one..!!