JGAurora A5 David or Goliath? March MadMess
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- čas přidán 13. 03. 2018
- On paper the JGAurora 3D Printer is one to dethrone the CR-10. So what happened? Will we ever have a 3D printer that we could call a home appliance? Should you buy the JGAurora A5
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3D Printing Professor I personally thank you for your honest review. That is exactly what people are looking for when they watch these reviews. So I think with this you have hopefully gained lots of trust from me and others in the 3D printer world as buyers. So thank you and keep up the good work.
Beautiful on the outside, cra- Mouse components on the inside. 9:52
3D Printing Professor i am looking into buying a (high quality) 3d printer. you seem to have extensive knowledge. is the makerbot replicator+($2500) or the dremel 3d45 ($1800) worth the higher price? and of the two, which would you recommend. or are there other brands of higher quality for the price.
I have had hands on experience with the Rep+, and only glancing experience with the Dremel 3D45 at Makerfair, and I can say this:
As an advanced user, the Rep+ is frustrating, both in the settings they lock off from you, and in the way they calibrate their machine to require those settings. But, if you weren't an advanced user all you'd know is that you have a 3D printer that works most of the time.
With the Dremel it seems that the people behind it want to give you the capability to do all the same advanced stuff that I'm used to. I haven't had a unit that I could really run through the paces, but they're heart seems to be in the right place. And, it's pretty solid. And their tool chain is goood. While I can't give it a full on endorsement, I like what I see so far.
Thanks for the input.I think I am leaning more towards the Dremel. Makerbot just seems a little overrated. Do you have any less expensive favorites other then rep+ and Dremel?
Don't forget that it does make a fine home for mice. I'll bet the heated bed is especially appreciated.
Man, I want a heated bed in my house. In winter. Not so much in the summer. Can I have a cooled bed?
Looking forward to an update on this printer!
Thanks for sharing 😀👍
Good review
Check to make sure your cables are not pinched underneath from where you put it together. It is what caused my issue
Thanks for sharing 😀👍
i just wish you would have gotten one like mine i am really enjoying it a lot only issue i have had is getting prints to stick to the bed but if i brim everything i have no issues even then so I'm finding out mine hasn't stopped running since I've got it been about 3 weeks now i think.
Neat haha, now I’m really curious to see what’s under the hood in the jg aurora!
he should def record the tear apart just for reference for anyone who gets a turd.
I am currently working with the JGAurora now. I will be giving my review after another week of working with it. Lots of tweaking so far for profiles but getting ok prints, but they need to improve a lot of things so stay tuned for the list!
Thanks for the honest review. You are not the first who found problems under the hood. Reminds me of an old joke about fancy covers on a car engine: They hiding their mistakes.
I'd start by checking the stepper voltage pots. Sounds like the Z axis is over volted, perhaps.
i must have got really lucky mine has been working wonderful out of the box I'm sorry for your problems but mine seems to be a newer version as the heat bed plug is the newer no printed parts at the tops and it will print at 200 degrees
I forgot to mention, mine didn't have the 3D printed parts I saw another reviewer complain about.
Never judge a 3D Printer by its cover =P
Noice.
"Beautiful on the ouside, crap on the inside". Yep! In the first week with my Anycubic I3 Mega Ultrabase. I've replaced two fans, modified the power supply, re-routed bed wires, dressed up the carriage wires and cleaned metal filing dust out of one of the stepper motors. After all of that, it's running as well as it looks and I'm happy with it. Well, almost. At least three of the linear bearings have dented ball bearings that make noise and rumble, but that's just acoustically annoying.
Great vid. Just an FYI, Wanhao did that printer bed on the slick looking box thing with the I3 Plus. It didn't look that slick, but it looked good without a box on the side and cables running everywhere.
Recently got a Monoprice Select Mini V2, had it for a little less than 2 weeks now. printed some upgrades for it, and aside from a few failed prints (mostly my fault) I love it. Small, yeah, but if you need something big ( lightsaber ) I just tinkercad and chop it into chunks. Love it. Eventually when I can afford one I plan to get a bigger printer and print bigger items without using chunks. Love the videos and maybe I can get one you recommend someday that has a bigger build platform. I was looking at one on kickstarter at one point but it's huge, expensive, and a kit. The Beast is what it was called. Maybe you could look into that one someday.
Any updates on this printer ? Have you opened and fixed it yet ?
I'm considering getting this printer or the Tronxy X5S-400 as my first 3d printer . I understand that both of these printers will require some upgrades in order for them to work decently . Which of these would you recommend or would recommend another? Also, would you consider a trade of a large build area printer for a DJI Spark drone ? Please let me know .
I'm not sure if the problem you had was related but all the other reviews I've seen of this printer said that it uses some weird marlin build that is not only out of date but was taken from a dead development branch. But supposedly you can flash it with an updated version of marlin that the community made to fix some of the quirks of the machine and it works really well after that. I've been thinking seriously about buying this printer for myself because it basically has all the features I want without tinkering and if all I have to do is flash new firmware then it seems like a better deal than most other kits. Then Da Hai Zhu has made/is making a series of videos on improvements for it as well. But I'm not sure I want to support a company with such clumsy marketing and I don't really have 400 euro to lose if I get a bad machine. It just seems like that's the gamble on any machine less than 700 money units. Would I be gambling a little or a lot if I bought this one?
I flashed mine with a new Marlin version and it's working great. The main caveat to flashing is to ensure you unplug the touch screen before flashing and you are currently stuck with some of the oddities of the touch screen interface.
I absolutely loved this video. I feel I can connect with it on so many levels. We are also currently having a mouse issue, but luckily not to this extent. Maybe we should try using acetone? Acetone is toxic. Not sure. What do you think?
Keep up the good work!
acetone on this machine, should it spill over the bed, will melt the glue that holds the glass to the heated aluminum base, just an fyi. I just use 75% rubbing alcohol to clean it, level it, and start once heated up.
Had this problem before, the stepstick type stepper drivers (in this case polulo a4988 ? ) have a control pin for the direction. This is either a bad solder joint on the driver module itself or on the socket of the control bord. A verry easy fix. One question the delta printer on the right is this a three extruder printer ?
Greetings
looks pretty nice but i bet it's a nightmare to build an enclosure for.
A5S though, is excellent!
Thank you for your insighful review!
If you were to compare it to the Anycubic i3 Mega... do you think that the i3 Mega is a good deal to get if the manufacturers to fix this printer, when the majority of the printers problems has been eliminated?
Are you asking, if this machine were completely fixed, and an Anycubic i3 Mega were completely fixed, which one would I choose? As I haven't use the AnyCubic I can only speculate.
Thats all good, Idk either...and for now the Anycubic seems to be the best option in regards to the internal printer components.
Thanks for your consideration :)
Great vid sooo glad you haven't gone like other channels sponsored and biased and the world is all rainbows and unicorns.
Tell that to the haters on the videos I *don't* negatively review.
I vape ... and know some top reviewers as I'm an advocate ... and they (Chinese manufacturers) are now sending a contract first you must agree to ... to do a positive only review !!! If a reviewer is any good, they would not accept that condition.
I got it and its really weird. Seems to have a mind of its own sometimes. It is good when it works. Getting it to work good is the hard part.
My experience with this printer was pretty much the same as yours. I was excited about it when I got one for review, and it printed a few things well, but then it stopped working and I didn't know where to begin to fix it. I can't even figure out how to open the thing up. In the end I decided not to review it because it died before I had done enough to make an interesting video, and I thought maybe I had just gotten a dud. But it's starting to look like it's just not a great printer.
It's a great printer, but yes, the materials/parts used are on the cheap side. I ordered a handful of parts after watching posts of other folks problems ... now I'll never have an issue :)
uhhh mice in the printer box!!! I'll never complain about my anycubic kossel plus again!
Classy, even-handed treatment of this machine. Love the case, but I don't think we're at the place with RepRap-style electronics where they can be blindly trusted in an Apple-style black box.
It's possible that the z wires are mixed up and you might need to reconfigure the wiring
I don't think so, because it did work, then it didn't. That says to me, something blew.
Mice in the control box! Couldn't that be the whole problem. Maybe that should be investigated to determine that this was the original problem, instead of thrashing the product.
that would be because its not as good as the CR-10. not sure why. I have not figured it out yet its 90% as good as the CR-10 though I am VERY happy with my A5. I still prefer the CR-10
it does have an SD card slot its just hidden inside :-) Don't really care about the wifi.
I wish it used more "standardized" parts for the hot end. fans are getting noisy and they are not typical fans.
the build surface is great. like ultrabase but more stiction. very nice but it can still (as you discovered) auto release when cooled. so power off resume is of limited value.
the not easy to tear apart is, as you discovered, the biggest downfall. so while its on my goto list of usable printers its not my first pick.
the hardware inside actually seems ok (MKS BASE board IIRC) I think either your stepper or the driver just died.
the real problem I have is the y carriage is a bit flimsy (though I have to admit it has held its bed level perfectly for months so......)
I also have noise in my prints that I am pretty certain is a bearing or something as I can hear/feel something grinding vibrating when the y axis moves. its sublte but its their.
I hope you get it sorted. it is one of my favorite printers even with the downsides.
"helpful"
Would you say its way better than the i3 Mega and low maintenance compared the CR 10 and have you ran a lot of test prints through the A5
Dwain Morris I am worried about maintenance on the A5 since there's some proprietary components but I have to say it's one of the only printers that I can turn on everyday and click print and it works flawlessly without one single issue the entire time I've used it it's just reliable which is very impressive now what happens when something breaks I'll have to cross that bridge when I get there :-)
This video made me want to clean my glasses! I still like your videos :)
lol, for a long time watching these videos I thought I had internet streaming issues. I think it's just the style - or filmed on some fairly old school kit. Still love the content though.
Most likely the problem is my camera couldn't figure out what to focus on. I tried to fix it, and it didn't. THe next video will have this same problem, but next week's video's I'll try to record a different way. I don't like the other way because it produces huge source files, but if the result is easier on your eyes, I'll do it.
It looks like it tried putting the Delta in the foreground into focus.
maybe to much printers in front of you. that delta printer has so much things going on to focus on. while it has nothing to do with the review. this view of things dangling bowden lines means chaos theory for autofocus.👍
The videos after this one was much better. Ah the joy of a one-man production company.
No worries we still love your videos! :D Plus thank you for being honest about the reviews.
I see the Geeetech 3 color. I have one. Curious to see what you think..........
Is yours little more than a pile of parts?
3D Printing Professor I got to the end. But the extruder part and the cables don't make sense.
Hi,
Normally I think the same way about printer as you do, but this time I totally disagree.
Of all printers I have (and like you, I happen to have a lot of them), the JGAurora A5 is probably the easiest printer to open and work on.
It takes 5 screws to open the cover (6 for the CR-10) and when you are inside the printer, all cables are waiting for you in perfect cable management, there is more then enough working space and every cable is labeled.
Again, I don't think any of my printers is that easy to fix as the JGAurora A5.
Same opinion here, very easy machine to open, maintenance and upgrade.
You say they have used low-quality components. Can you expand on this for us please. Low quality steppers, belts, bearings, leadscrews etc. can be seen, but seeing electronic parts requires disassembly to some degree, which you say you haven't done.
Could the issues you had relate to a half-baked firmware rehash? Also, my understanding from some other reviews is that JGAurora have not advertised this machine as having WiFi... that has come from the "half-baked" firmware still having a WiFi icon, which resulted in people assuming WiFi was there but not working.
Thanks for the great review.
My statement about cheap components was talking about the unreliability of untested components directly from China that have no longevity. But in reality the components inside an A5 are the same as inside any other 3D printer. They're just a little harder to get to (though not actually too bad when I bucked up and opened it).
Having noticed the parts were iffy when I received it, and from what I read about it .... I went to aliexpress and ordered ; hot end, thermistors, heaters, couplers for the z rods, filament switch, bowden tubes, quick-release connectors, and .... more fans, 4 in total.
Watched your iceburg video a bit ago, and you make a good point in that these are appliances and since we don't have the Maytag man down the street for help, you have to learn as you go, and fix what you can .... it is work.
Mine has been idle for a week now, and I'm watching videos to get fired back up ... the last few prints ticked me off, so have had to reset my patience, and I've achieved THAT. :)
So....now that I have all the replacement parts, I should NEVER have a problem again *big grin*
That's quite a bit of parts -- how much did all the parts cost you?
Not as much as you'd think. As well, they sent me some of it by accident ... then resent the correct items. $50 to $70 range. The filament sensors came in the new form, thought they were end stops. I always buy a lot of parts, no matter if it's the drone of the day, or 3D printer. All of a sudden they stop making the line and you can no longer get parts.
I did the same thing with my first quadcopter, bought new frame, motors, 4 batteries .... basically bought a double of everything other than the internal wiring and mobo. After I had the learning part down, I rebuilt the entire thing using OEM parts I had stored, even though ... the quad is long outdated. Just an example. *shrug* :)
any update on whats wrong?
I need to do a follow up video, but basically I discovered that it wasn't that hard to open. I swapped the stepper motors for the X and Z, just to see if that would move the problem to the X, and it fixed the problem. Chances are the Z needed a little more omph, and the X doesnt' need that much, so problem solved, I guess.
there is SD behind the screen
Just for flashing the firmware on the front motherboard (there are 2).
First time someone said to flash the front panel, .... so I stood there with a trench coat on, naked underneath and kept flashing my nakedness at it, but didn't help. So, did some reading.
This machine should be best compared to the earlier Anycubic I3 Mega for its similarity, not the CR10. I think it is obvious, for those who read watch reviews and follow trends in 3D printing, that the I3 Mega has a lot more to offer than the CR10, if you are not concern so much with build volume and there are some very obvious enhancements and better features on the I3 Mega vs CR10, it is almost a no brainer from a lot of points of view.
The I3 is a reliable machine. I was really hoping the Aurora A5 would be in the same spec, performance and reliability as the I3 Mega because it has larger volume, and since it seems to basically incorporate the same nice features as the I3, or wants to be a cleaner Anycubic and larger I3 Mega, but it is obvious Aurora needs to refine it.
3D printing is still at the techie level, and not at the home appliance level and for this reason I think combining a machine with some clean features but leaving a bit acces for tweaking it is beneficial (i.e the Anycubic I3 Mega has a clean fully enclose base which houses all the electronics and provides a solid structure, but it allows ease of acces to the flat bed belt, likewise on the gantry, it is not tottally modernized to fully enclosed all the mechanics, and make it hard to access during maintenance). I am still hoping Anycubic has taken notice of my comments and suggestion to make the I3 Mega with a larger build platform, leave the I3 as is but offer a larger version of it with the same nice features it already has.
I have no ties to any 3D printer manufacturer and so my comments and suggestions are strictly from my own hands on use, and experience in various diciplines with no intent to try to promote any specific machine on the basis of profit or vendor afiliation.
Friend of mine bought a Mega on Prime Day, he got two. . . one and a half, prints and the extruder crumbled. Like the A5 some people get amazing machines and some get duds like this one. I don't think there's a. . . well, anything that someone hasn't had a problem with.
You coud try to update the marling firmware.
I plan to.
Thanks for the review, I'm glad I didn't buy it when I got the hipe about it
Maybe someone already posted this, but I'm not going through 90+ comments to check honestly ha .... I believe it's 4 screws to get to the internals. Top 2 on the back panel, and under the front, take the 2 feet & screws out, and it will open up. Easier too if you remove the gantry firstly of course.
The hotend fan was starting to make noise, if I tapped it right it would work here and there .... so went to amazon and ordered up a ball bearing fan 30x30x10, did some micro soldering, installed it and now that fan blows harder than a politician. SQUEEE
(also, there is an "official" JGaurora FB group that is good for getting answers ... I avoid the other private group, as it's a debate hellhole imo)
Hey , i really like your videos :-) But will you ever upgrade to a better camera? :-D
I think the problem in this video is the camera chose to focus on the Delta in the foreground, instead of my face. Ah well, I'll try again next week to be better.
3D Printing Professor Haha wow that reply was fast :D I'm not even finished with your video :-D
Don't take that as an offend. I really enjoy your videos and I was just asking myself :D
Hey man, I had a similar issue, and I have a youtube channel I'm starting called "Simulated Maker"
I want MY nightmare story with this printer to be my first video, so I'll have to shoot you a message when it's up because I'd love for you to see it and realize just how bad things are with this printer, despite the other, larger, channels all somehow miraculously having positive reviews!
Don't take this wrong but you are rarely invited into a machine, you just have to do it. You have nothing to lose just take it apart and see what it is made of. Seems the manufacture has some communication issues going on also.
A5 beds work extremely well if kept clean😀
U have a dirty bed 😋
Btw in relation to your problems, they seem to be yours but not mine, with that said JGAurora have awful customer service, you would probably be best buying it from a reseller not direct from JGAurora.
On top of that upon my investigation I have also found out that sellers are trying to resell returned dmged printers.
Ok , since you asked me to keep you posted : today my cr10-s from GB arrived. I payed for it the 23th of february and the 8th of march it arrived to Milan , Italy. Than the italian courrier messed up my adress and it sent it 1300 km away from my house ...... Anyway , not GB fault . Today it finally arrived . I haven't put it togheter yet , but everything is there and without damages. Tomorrow i will put it togheter and try it , but i expect everything to go well. So , in conclusion : from GB China to Milan Italy 13 days ; NOT BAD!! Than , from Milan Italy to Parma Italy (100 km , roughly 60 miles) 6 days , but that's another story :)
And no shipping or customs problems? That is great to hear.
Hey, if you've still got the post label, does everything look copacetic? I've heard that in the past they'd falsify information on them to get cheaper rates. Does it look like they're doing that?
nope, i used the italian priority shipping wich cost an extra 15 euros , but it avoids any problem at the customs , or at least that is what they say on the checkout. On the label of the package everything seems in order , with the content and the weight listed correctly. I can't see if they lied about the value of the content , but i don't think they did since i also chosed to have the assured shipping. Also , today i tried it out , and it works like a boss :D
Most of the parts that I ordered ... the customs label values were the values it took them to make it, not the retail value. I paid around $50, they claimed $13 for instance. What gets my balls twisted .... is when you order something from gearbest, receive it, and see on the customs form "gift" is checked. Ummmm if it was a gift, give me my loot back, heh.
Oh! I know that one! (Possibly...) Just had a similar problem, though mine was in X movement, not Z. Turned out to be a bad cable/connection between the controller board and the stepper. You might try re-seating the connectors (just to be sure). Mine needed a new cable ... which was a bit of a problem, as the cable not something you can order.
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Well leaving it in a dirty shed filled with mice will certainly not do anything good for any electronic equipment.. besides, most of the "china" printers, people buy for well knowing that there could be a chance of faulty models and yes, i agree that a decent support is crucial for any company but again, you are buying a cheap printer and the JG Aurora is certainly one of the most beautiful printers for the normal consumer and i am sure by now there is many videos about how to fix certain issues and even upgrade this printer. I am really wanting this printer and hope that i will eventually be able to get one and mine will be standing in a nice, clean and dry office and not in a dusty mice infested shed!!
Problems aside, if they claim it has certain features (like wifi and 'auto' bed leveling), and it really doesn't have these, then that's just false advertising. And you can't just let that go because "hey they give all this other stuff". It could be someone really wants wifi. So they buy this printer for it. And then, well, it doesn't have it! That's no good in my book.
false advertising from China LOL ... whatcha gonna do, sue 'em? hehe On a serious note, I think it's a feature they plan to work in on future models and jumped the gun on the implementation of it. Some folks have successfully added a wifi module, but really, I don't trust wifi to be stable in 3Dprinting or flying drones .... much interference.
Isnt this the machine that MakersMuse called 'wierd' ??
Oh yeah, the wacky Zaxis thing. They appear to be junk.
MakersMuse also got a shock from it don't forget. (always use a grounded wire, and make sure the amperage can handle your extension cords) MM is a decent reviewer, but does some stupid stuff which he should not put out there. I think he's a Prussy junkie personally and everything else is 2nd rate.
You are the most honest 3D printer reviewer I know of on YT. I wish you would contact Qidi Tech to see if they'll send you a X-Pro for a thorough review. They get over the hump of international returns by providing excellent, responsive support with a 6 month warranty on parts. If you need a part under the warranty period, they ship it out via DHL (not postal mail) so it only takes a few days to get it...at their expense. This is what I have gathered from reviews of their other printers and the Qidi unofficial FB group. I just wish there was a decent review of it which includes thorough examination of print quality. Becasue at $899 for a 230x150 print area, it better be comparable to a Prusa MK2/3 in print quality. In fact, I think I'm going to send them an email and request they contact you. lol
Thanks for a 'let-the-chips-fall-where-they-may' review. It's helpful. What's particularly helpful is learning how they responded to the issue. They sent you a unit for review. Obviously, they have an incentive for you to have a positive experience. Yet, they've dithered in addressing your concerns. Should an ordinary consumer expect to be treated better or worse than you were? For those of us who have no desire to tear apart a printer to fix it should something go wrong, this is an underappreciated issue.
For some, the 'hobby' is getting a printer to work. For others, the hobby is making stuff. For the first group, the focus is on the printer. For the other group, the focus is on the things being made. If your look at a 3D printer as a tool for making cool stuff and not as something to endlessly tinker with (not that there's anything wrong with that, you may want to restrict your universe of printers to those that use readily available off-the-shelf parts so you can find someone local to repair and maintain it for you.
Those are all excellent questions, and while I refuse to directly sling the mud of private conversations into the public, I will say this; my interaction with JGAurora so far has been weird.
You didn't need to sling mud. What you said was professional and respectful. You reported the problem. It took them a while to decide what they wanted to do to address it (ship you a replacement). That replacement still hasn't arrived. No need for any details beyond that. What you said speaks volumes.
Contrast that with Inventables, the makers of the X-Carve CNC router kit. Inventables has been very active in sending CZcamsrs X-Carve's in exchange for a review (with no obligation that the review be positive). Whenever something has gone wrong with the build process, Inventables has been very responsive -- shipping a new part or providing tech support over the phone. This has helped create an impression that ordinary consumers might expect similar support (which comments from such users tends to indicate is the case). Inventables is USA company, but many of its components come from China. So, it's not in the same position as JGAurora, but the two companies aren't so different that they require such a different level of customer support.
If you know who to contact there, comms are a breeze, other than the language gap. I'm getting pretty good at Chinglish though. support@zgew3d.com has gotten me good answers within about 24 hrs. Also, you can go to their aliexpress 'store' (the amazon of china, where anyone can post their wares) .... and "contact seller" ... that will get you in contact with more knowledgeable people than just some tech I've found.
5 screws gets you in.
I am aware of the aftersales of Aurora. But if you have a faulty machine, that is not 50% of all machines. Mice are your problem, not JGAurora. The cabinet is easely opened. The parts are standard and good quality. I have a few printers, but my A5 is the best by far. Even more than the MonoPrice Select Mini you like so much (i do too btw, but slightly more difficult to maintain and upgrade). I really think you've shouldn't have done this review in this way
I considered that mice were the problem, but I verified that the testing was done in doors away from environmental influences. The footage you see at 6:27 was from that first round to testing.
It's entirely possible that this machine may redeem itself. But I gotta get a review out right now, and this is where it's at.
Yes, but i think it is more negative than it has to be. For example: Mounting the Gantry: Set the gantry vertical onto your desk. Slide in the box. Shift the combination, so the gantry is 10cm over the edge of the desk. You can screw in from below up, now. Why so negative? I really think JG Aurora let the early adopters stand in the cold, but Apple does that all the time and than it is ok. Just don't post a review if you don't have all the facts.
Man, I can not win. I tell people to go easy on them because the wifi isn't ready and I get told I'm not being hard enough, you're telling me I'm being too hard. It's true, the internet is harsh.
I am sorry. About Wifi and the other unrealistic claims JGA made, you are right. On the other hand, i think this printer deserves (now, not the early models) better reviews than it is getting.
I think it does too. I wish I could give it a better review. And maybe some day I will be able to.
hmm, so this company sent you a printer for review that failed and their response was excuses and not solutions, dump them for a company who understands that if they can't provide a working review machine then they need to use that opportunity to show what their support was like, demonstrating to you the printer was "crap" and the after sales were no better doesn't need you to do any other than tell it as it is, otherwise the reviewer is as trustworthy as the machine. It seems to me the likes of Epson and HP need to enter the market and provide a printer that doesn't look like some sort of medieval execution device but works out of the box and looks pretty. Come on guys, something that looks like an "H" and sounds like a dial-up modem that doesn't work isn't something to get excited about but something to criticise.
Not to be a ---- but the mice could have been there all long.
Possible, but considering the success of my traps here, and last year, I'm guessing it wasn't an import.
"It is a bit unfair"??? It is fair because that what is called "false marketing" and they have many false claims which they refuse to edit and clean up.
That's true. But this is the reality when you're this close to the manufacturer. They make the marketing copy before development is done, so it's sometimes a list of goals, and sometimes those goals aren't met. Some manufacturers are better about being more conservative with their goals, this manufacturer is admittedly one that isn't.
Still, you're circumventing retail when you buy direct from China like this, so you may, from time to time, have to cut them some slack. Yes, you're not getting what was promised, but are you getting what was better than an alternative? Had the lack of wifi been the only problem I would have been very happy with this printer.
Beautiful on the outside, crap on the inside - par for the course for Chinese electronics unless the factory is contracted to build to certain specs. Always buy this stuff with a credit card that offers impeccable purchase protection and gives you ample time to file disputes (like Discover card). And also try to buy on eBay or Amazon, which gives you additional protection, to a degree. I buy only small, light, cheaper items directly from Chinese sites. Everything else needs to be sold on a USA site or I don't buy it.
Thank you I wa thinking about buying one but never mind. I the Chinese make a lot of crap outside of the CR10 . This printer is no better than that i3 Mega I had to send back