Sony A7Riii vs Nikon D850 Epic Shootout | Camera Comparison Review | Which Camera to buy?

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  • @evilwarlock
    @evilwarlock Před 6 lety +22

    You're back! These reviews were greatly missed, Michael.

    • @MMaven
      @MMaven  Před 6 lety +4

      It’s good to be back - I need to do a better job of consistency. Thanks for your patience and support

    • @paulstubbs1843
      @paulstubbs1843 Před 6 lety

      See from the sample images I would pick the Nikon for portraits. The Sony almost shows too much detail there. For landscapes I would go with the Sony with its advantage of being a compact lighter system

  • @Aurilash
    @Aurilash Před 6 lety +9

    I absolutely love and look forward to your Epic Shootout videos! Even when I'm not planning on getting either of the cameras you're showing, I always enjoy watching all the details you provide and your insight, so thank you so much

  • @luifalcon
    @luifalcon Před 2 lety +2

    I can always count on you to go over details others missed, it is great to know that camera companies competitiveness has left this decision to personal choice. That also means that they are exceeding at what they are supposed to be doing, which is bring us the best capable cameras on the market!

  • @fantomfoto
    @fantomfoto Před 6 lety +7

    Easily the best camera review video I've ever seen. As a landscape photographer who also shoots concerts on occasion I'd probably go with the Nikon but being that I'm already a Canon shooter the Sony would be much less of a headache to switch to. If Canon doesn't put out a truly spectacular 5DSr mark 2 soon I'm jumping ship.

  • @yairtammam
    @yairtammam Před 6 lety +53

    Thanks for the great real world review!
    I think both are great, I choose the D850 simply because of having the full set of Nikon glass.
    one point , the buffer test is a bit not fair to the D850.
    If you set the D850 to 12 Bit compressed RAW
    you will get 200 shootsbefore the buffer ends.
    this is the mode Sony was while you were testing it.
    Thanks Again !
    Yair

  • @seeonedoone
    @seeonedoone Před 6 lety +41

    Got the D850 a month ago. No regrets. It's an incredible camera with great video features!

    • @reoflex
      @reoflex Před 6 lety

      See One, Do One Amen, I love mine, and it fits my hand.

    • @reoflex
      @reoflex Před 6 lety

      See One, Do One Love mine and it fits a man’s hands.

  • @abhishijack
    @abhishijack Před 6 lety +12

    You Maven, do the BEST comparison video on CZcams, Period. The precision, the scientific reasoning, the efforts, oh God. You deserve so many more views!

    • @MMaven
      @MMaven  Před 6 lety +1

      Thank you my Friend!

  • @OmahaWayne
    @OmahaWayne Před 6 lety +5

    Totally get why you were gone and even was a sponsor for some filters. But you and these fantastic videos were still missed.
    Thank you Michael.

    • @MMaven
      @MMaven  Před 6 lety +1

      Thank you so much for your support Rubi! It meant so much to me that nearly 1000 photographers came together in that way. All of our filters were delivered!

  • @tjmperez
    @tjmperez Před 6 lety +15

    This was awesome Michael! Absolutely love these shoot outs and was looking forward to this one! I love my Nikon D850 and will say a lot of the issues you have with the sony system is the reason why I switched from the Sony a7rII and picked up the Nikon D850!

    • @MMaven
      @MMaven  Před 6 lety +4

      Thank you TJ! I love my D850 and don't see it going anywhere soon :)

    • @tjmperez
      @tjmperez Před 6 lety +2

      I agree! Also one thing a lot of people dont disclose with the electronic shutter is you will have banding issues when combining artificial and ambient light such as a flash mixed with ambient light and needing to turn on the mechanical shutter but a lot of the Sony CZcams photographers dont disclose as a tip which cost me a couple shoots, thank goodness it wasnt paid work but the photos were awesome but couldnt use them. As always love the unbiased results and glad you're putting them out there!

    • @MMaven
      @MMaven  Před 6 lety +6

      I think this would be a good test to add to the arsenal, Ive seen it in the past on other Sonys, but I haven't included it in the Epic Shootouts and I think it is important. Ill include it in my A7iii Review.
      I cannot speak for the other CZcams reviewers, I do think they are trying their best, but I was disappointed with the lack of criticism I saw for the A7iii and overwhelming support and endorsements given for it for the very reason you mention. The Sony Press Events have ruined those specific camera reviews IMO because it is all consolidated now, Sony controls way too much of it and reviewers are not testing on their own. Thats the short of it.

    • @tjmperez
      @tjmperez Před 6 lety +1

      Saweet!!!!!! I think that would be awesome to add to the arsenal! Yes I agree they are trying their best and appreciate the tips on flash photography and how they use flash but definitely think it is something that should be disclosed.

    • @tjmperez
      @tjmperez Před 6 lety +2

      Also very much agree with the Sony reviewing of cameras and how all you hear is positive reviews and dont disclose the negatives like your shootouts with the average consumers in mind. -TJ

  • @apassionfortangling3671
    @apassionfortangling3671 Před 6 lety +2

    As a Canon user it is refreshing to see a detailed review like this.

  • @equinoxstudiosphoto
    @equinoxstudiosphoto Před 4 lety +2

    you won me over with the test! what a brilliant idea!!! I scored 7/12 in favor of the D850 - that was very eye-opening!

  • @AllCarsUnited
    @AllCarsUnited Před 6 lety +5

    Shoot. Both amazing. I went with the a7r3 video, ibis and eye AF being the determining factor. Who would have thought that Sony finally has nice color

  • @reggie8724
    @reggie8724 Před 5 lety +6

    This turned out extremely well. It really showed me what I was truly looking at in each camera. I’ve had my choice for a while on which I wanna go with but have been leaning towards one in particular. This review sealed that choice, but did so in an extremely unbiased way! Great review! Keep it up.

  • @TopperJordan
    @TopperJordan Před 6 lety +1

    That was a very fair an unbiased review. I have the Sony A7RIII and I love the thing. I don't have the Nikon D850 but I still have my D750 which I also love despite its many limitations when compared to the camera bodies discussed in your video. Really good review mate!

  • @satkozlatna
    @satkozlatna Před 6 lety +68

    6sony 6nikon damn.. but im lucky i dont have money to chose one of the this cameras :) im happy with my d750 :)

    • @UFGator1972
      @UFGator1972 Před 6 lety +2

      cooloox, the D850 color is quite good, I own one and the camera is excellent.

    • @dalewatkins9889
      @dalewatkins9889 Před 4 lety +1

      Looks like the D850 wins out with 8. Looking to upgrade from the D750...hoping it's a worthwhile upgrade! Would use the focus stacking, as I'm doing so manually with my current setup...thus making that portion of Landscape a nice fit.

    • @satkozlatna
      @satkozlatna Před 4 lety +1

      @@dalewatkins9889 did you upgrate to 850? if yes please can you tell your feelings! i'm planning same upgrate too!

  • @two2threeminutes
    @two2threeminutes Před 6 lety +1

    This is by far the greatest camera review out there and I watch A LOT of camera reviews. I love the 12 portrait picture too. 🙌🏼

  • @cactustweeter2890
    @cactustweeter2890 Před 6 lety +28

    Michael I was so going to buy the D850. But then Sony came out with a7r iii before I had a chance to purchase the Nikon. If I was only doing still photos these days I would have gone with the D850. However, I shoot more and more video so I pulled the trigger on the a7r iii. No camera is perfect. The only drawbacks for me with a7r iii is the touch interface is not as good as the D850 or the 5DM4. Also I wish Sony would've had 2 UHS-II slots instead of just one. I also can't believe there is no built-in intervalometer with the a7r iii. Anyway, I'm still very pleased with the a7r iii purchase.

    • @MMaven
      @MMaven  Před 6 lety

      All true and good statements

    • @dalewatkins9889
      @dalewatkins9889 Před 4 lety

      Having Nikon glass can be a worthy reason for staying, especially since both cameras are worthy contenders. Weight can be an issue for some, but most males 'should' be able to handle the little difference. Looking forward to the D850 once the budget is topped up!

  • @PatriotSteve
    @PatriotSteve Před 5 lety +1

    Best comparison video I’ve ever seen. Nice job.

  • @The-Tall-Photographer
    @The-Tall-Photographer Před 8 měsíci

    This review might be 5 years but it's still relevant today. I have a dual 850 set up and also have the A7R iii. Both are brilliant cameras and it's hard to separate them.

  • @edduffy9366
    @edduffy9366 Před 6 lety +3

    Love the opening. You are like the "Indiana Jones" of photographers.

  • @cessealbeach
    @cessealbeach Před 6 lety +7

    I am a pro photographer, have been using Nikon form D750 thru D810, I know you are canon man, Bought the D850 in Dec 2017, and Bought The A7RIII in Jan 2018, I own the same lenses you demonstrated on both cameras, I do my share of sports photography, Yes the Nikon does have the edge, I do like the colors on the D850 also, I also use the grip for the Nikon, The Sony on the other Hand. the EYE focus on the Models is Stunning, Dead On The Portraits are Awesome, The D850 Lags Big, Most of my shoots are portrait . I Love Both Cameras, I have Used the Sony A9, The A9 is NOT the same as A7RIII, NOT even similar, The Camera is Amazingly fast focusing than The D850, The Shots are Crisp, you are WRONG there, I am Glad you like Nikon D850, Yes it is FAR More superior than any canon! Overall you Did the Best Comparison , Good Job there,

    • @ericleszkowicz898
      @ericleszkowicz898 Před 6 lety +1

      I am hoping to do some of that testing. I am assuming that you are shooting very wide open...which is where eye auto focus comes into play the most.

    • @cessealbeach
      @cessealbeach Před 6 lety

      Yes! wide open and 90 percent of my shoots are on aperture priority , D850 is Awesome at Static

    • @floatingrabbit3556
      @floatingrabbit3556 Před 6 lety +3

      When you start with "i am a pro photographer", you sound like a douche. Just get to your point we don't want to know what level of photographer you are.

    • @skurt2752
      @skurt2752 Před 5 lety

      I have no clue what you said. None of it makes sense. Also I don’t know many pro photogs that rely on Eye auto focus to determine which camera is better. The only thing you’re saying is “I don’t know how to focus in manual focus”

  • @digwillhachi
    @digwillhachi Před 6 lety +67

    i went for d850 because of weather proofing and lens selection.

    • @alestbest
      @alestbest Před 6 lety +5

      Warning: I own a D810 with weather sealing…. and in a light rain.... the answer from Nikon after over one year waiting: "the camera got wet" Nothing more.

    • @bojangbg
      @bojangbg Před 5 lety +6

      Not better than a Sony 7rIII, the sealing is similar. Sony has the better lenses anyway

    • @dalewatkins9889
      @dalewatkins9889 Před 4 lety +1

      @@alestbest - much the same as my D750, wet didn't seem to make any difference long-term in the camera whatsoever! Works every time regardless of dry or wet.

    • @NORTRONGAMES
      @NORTRONGAMES Před 4 lety +2

      @@bojangbg A7R3 is known for its worst weather sealing. If you have no knowledge about it, then check some of the weather test videos.

  • @LeapSim
    @LeapSim Před 6 lety +5

    You deserve more subscribers for your hard work 👏👏👏

  • @kahyyamdavis7783
    @kahyyamdavis7783 Před 4 lety +1

    D850 swiftly smoothly loving the look

  • @fatdoi003
    @fatdoi003 Před 6 lety +2

    one of very few unbiased reviews i've seen...... great review

  • @kagisomalepe
    @kagisomalepe Před rokem

    I recently came across your camera reviews and they are the best.

  • @ChameleonzDream
    @ChameleonzDream Před 6 lety

    Not only do you have a confident appearance, you have a phenomenal way of speaking and your review is literally the best review i have seen in regards to these specific cameras. I truly appreciate how you took the images side by side instead of just offering specs an "take my word for it". I will continue to trust your judgement and watch your hands on approach with is amazing! I chose the D850 thank you.

  • @dbenadon
    @dbenadon Před 5 lety

    Michael, I have bought several of your videos over the years and have learned from each. I think your approach, knowledge, and tone are great. I thought this video was outstanding and takes some of the tribalism out of reviews. There is so much great gear and so many large emotions attached it was really nice to see a calm, realistic side-by-side.

  • @sachiyth
    @sachiyth Před 5 lety +1

    Michael, I want to thank you so very much for this unbiased review. I was undecided what Camara to with until you had the 12 photo line up. That helped me to make my decision. Thank you so much. I am subscribed to you and once I get my camera I will buy your crash course so I can learn a thing or two. Please keep making videos like this! This is by far one of the best sides by side reviews I have seen. Thank you so much Sir.

  • @CameraMystique
    @CameraMystique Před 6 lety +6

    A feature landscapers should take into account, is the Low ISO of the Nikon. Lloyd Chambers tested and found that Nikon's 32 ISO (Low setting) is almost identical with the 64 but with even less noise. In essence, and in my own tests, the 32 ISO puts the D850 almost into medium format performance.

  • @nycrim
    @nycrim Před 6 lety +1

    Wow 6 to 6. Can't decide which one I like more. Been a Nikon customer for many years. Like the touchscreen and wish Sony had the same features in the touchscreen as Nikon. Very difficult decision. Thanks for the video. Very informative.

  • @gaidohugo5337
    @gaidohugo5337 Před 6 lety +1

    great video as usual ... Happy that someone else mentions the moire on the a7r III, its been annoying me since day one !

  • @BrentODell
    @BrentODell Před 6 lety +1

    I picked the Sony 7/5 in the portrait test, but I will most likely buy the Nikon because most of my shooting is wildlife, which means the lens lineup decides it for me.

  • @beavertown2006
    @beavertown2006 Před 6 lety +1

    This painstaking review is worth the wait and always as a treat. Thanks!

  • @sethcashman1011
    @sethcashman1011 Před 6 lety +3

    Excellent review. Have watched several times now. I'm trying to decide between the D850 and the a7rIII. Been leaning toward the latter camera for a few reasons, but, as a portrait shooter, this "posterization" business bothers me and I'm wondering if it should. What would be the "real world" dfference to the naked eye? Finer gradations in the Nikon images? Thanks.

  • @paulholstein9448
    @paulholstein9448 Před 6 lety +1

    One thing you didn't comment on is the size and weight of each camera. This is important for me because I travel a lot and need to keep the weight down. All in all, I was seriously impressed by both cameras. They both take amazing photos that were only a dream just a few years ago. When I took your preference test, I landed on 9 Sony and 3 Nikon preferences but the preferences were not major. I tend to prefer sharp focus over color because I can post correct color but I can't correct focus.
    I'd love to see how much dynamic range you were able to reclaim in post on both cameras.

  • @randydean23
    @randydean23 Před 6 lety

    Congratulations Michael, this is in my opinion the best of these epic shootouts you've produced. I am a Nikon shooter and in the past felt that the criticism leveled over autofocus was overblown as there are literally no professional videographers I know that use autofocus. But that being said - the types of productions and cameras they use aren't slr's either and I don't personally know any vloggers or CZcams content creators. Here you're arguments in favor of the sony system for video are the most compelling I've seen. And on the other side of that you are literally the first CZcams camera reviewer I've seen who has drawn attention to the Sony's problem with autofocus while zooming in or out - that strikes me as profoundly important as someone who shots a lot of fast moving wildlife on my D500 and I am amazed that this is the first I have heard on the topic.
    Compelling arguments for either system and hats off to you.

    • @MMaven
      @MMaven  Před 6 lety

      Thank you Randy! Great to hear from you. As strange as this may sound, I’m the only tester I know of who checks the rack zoom during a burst for sports shooting, since the GH4 and A7s Test in 2014, because this is what sports shooters expect to do with DSLRs. Sony’s have always had this issue & they can’t seem to figure it out. Fuji xt2 did not have this limitation. It’s the last major focusing hurdle for Sony cameras. On the video side, I almost always shot manual focus for video, but Sony’s face tracking is so good, I’m starting to use it all the time in my normal shoots. Even at 2.8, it’s just so good. I can literally turn the camera on and jump in front of it without needing to dial focus in or shoot at 5.6-6.3, so for vloggers and tracking shots it’s pretty amazing. Nikon is almost there now. Thanks again for your thoughts

  • @sebastienlecalvez4369
    @sebastienlecalvez4369 Před 6 lety +1

    Phenomenal review man... Congratulation on this review and your work I'm general. I've become a fan after seeing this video. Love to see someone that worked hard to produce this.

  • @Lucenafoto
    @Lucenafoto Před 6 lety

    I say WOW when I saw the notification.
    You are the BEST with this Portrait Test. This test show me more than any other about what colors I realy like. Thanks!

  • @jtes1442
    @jtes1442 Před 6 lety +1

    Michael that A7RIII is amazing and the Nikon is not far behind . I love Nikon’s ergonomics and really dislike Sony’s . However , that Sony eye AF feature is astounding and a game changer. Eye AF alone is enough for me to consider leaving Nikon for Sony . Lastly , I prefer Nikon’s more neutral skin tones to Sony’s as Sony colors are too orange for my taste . Great comparison and you’re the best reviewer on CZcams by far .

  • @geribrn6453
    @geribrn6453 Před 6 lety +1

    I got the chance to shoot the D850 and I'm impressed with it. Couldn't really tell the difference. I would go with it for Landscapes simply coz of the lower Native ISO. I do disagree with you in terms of the glasses. But while the Nikon system has more options at the telephoto range, for the rest of the glasses, the Sony glasses are just noticeably sharper. I've tested the 85mm 24-70 and 70-200. The Sony one's are just in a different league.

  • @SilatShooter
    @SilatShooter Před 6 lety +1

    Superb Comparison! Hits all the points that really matter. Thanks for all the work here!

  • @momchilyordanov8190
    @momchilyordanov8190 Před 5 lety +1

    I like your comparisons. Very comprehensive. I would use D5 or 1DX2 for sports because of the higher fps and only needing the jpegs anyway, D850 for landscape and with battery grip - for wildlife, because the high number of MPs allows deeper cropping. And finally - A7R3 for video, portraits, street and even photography with all that goodness of EVF, eye detect, silent shooting, crazy low light and precise video AF and IBIS. Just my 2 cents :)

  • @dance2jam
    @dance2jam Před 6 lety +3

    A few things from this new amateur photographer: First, thanks for the detailed review and comparison. Appreciate it. Second, I am just a bit confused when you spend all this time making a detailed side by side comparison, why you wouldn't use the vertical grip with the larger/stronger battery to push the D850 at 9 fsp bringing it closer to the SONY (wouldn't the buffer fill up even faster?) - I'll also read your reply to the comment below to Tamman. My neighbor owns the A7Riii, I own the D850. We compare all the time and you're right, there are certain things that are excellent about both and sometimes those things don't overlap. In your test, I found that I picked the color science of Nikon 10/12 images. LOL Guess I might be bias as to what I'm seeing daily as well. One thing you didn't mention is price of the entire system. I don't know how prices compare of SONY Lenses to NIKON but there are lots of used lenses for the NIKON. Also, weight and ergonomics might be preferred by some for the camera to be smaller and light weight. Lastly, I'm curious about how easy or difficult and expensive it would be to get the sensor dirty and then cleaned. I would imagine without the mirror it's easier to get dust/dirt on the SONY sensor depending on where you're shooting. Thanks in advance for your reply to my long comment. :-)

    • @MMaven
      @MMaven  Před 6 lety +6

      Short answer is these tests are expensive and this one was not sponsored, so I basically paid for everything with my own money. That would be a good follow up test. There are actually a number of ways to tweak the tests, all good in and of themselves, worthy of doing, there is just no way I can do them all, and I won't try. I don't think there is a huge difference in cleaning the sensors but the Sony would be a touch easier because its not as deep. Thank you for your comment and best wishes

    • @dance2jam
      @dance2jam Před 6 lety +1

      Thank you for responding Michael, and again, let me thank you for being so kind and providing the information you did. I can appreciate that these tests were expensive and came out of pocket and that there is always more that can be done. I really can't thank you enough just because I was interested. I do have one more question for you (again, because I am a beginner trying to learn). DId you do the test with the D850 burst /buffer test in lossless compressed because the SONY drops to 12 bit RAW instead of 14 bit RAW during bursts to better approximate the buffer's ability? Thanks, in advance.

  • @ExploreThroughMe
    @ExploreThroughMe Před 6 lety +5

    **EPIC ~~EPIC**
    Another Best Review yet from you Michael.
    Thank you so much.
    It's difficult to pick the right pictures.They look identical.
    But I noticed Sony looks a bit sharper then Nikon images.

  • @pvattoly
    @pvattoly Před 5 lety +1

    Your comparison reviews are the best i found on youtube .. we are eagerly awaiting the comparison review for mirrorless cameras (Sony A7III VS Nikonz6 VS Canon R) or (Sony A7RIII VS Nikonz7 VS Canon R) !!!

  • @shang-hsienyang1284
    @shang-hsienyang1284 Před 6 lety

    As an owner of Nikon D750 and Sony a9, I would definitely point landscape photographer towards the a7Riii over the D850. In bright sunlight, it is almost impossible to review photos on the dim LCD, but it's pretty easy to do that with the EVF. When you have an accurate exposure, you are less dependent on the dynamic range of the camera.
    I can't argue about the sports shooting, but if you're shooting sports like basketball, volleyball, tennis, table tennis, golf, swimming, the current 70-200mm f/2.8 is very adequate.

  • @cdarioworks
    @cdarioworks Před 4 lety

    Don't forget to add 0:00 to your description Chapter Markers so that CZcams chunks up your video. Great review!!! I have a d800 and I am annoyed with the auto focusing for vlogging.

  • @pro-images1
    @pro-images1 Před 6 lety +1

    Thank's Maven, great video! I purchased your instruction video when I got my first DLSR years ago, the D7000!!!!

  • @sigmaoctantis_nz
    @sigmaoctantis_nz Před 6 lety +1

    Both pretty awesome cameras, my pick would be the D850 but I do like what Sony has come up with as an alternative.

  • @ahhbility
    @ahhbility Před 6 lety +1

    I think it's worth mentioning that while the af for sports on the a7Riii has a lower percentage hit rate, it is shooting at a higher fps so it's getting more photos. I think it would be about equal in regards to the usable photos. Correct me if I'm wrong. Great review btw, thanks.

  • @davidp9159
    @davidp9159 Před 5 lety

    Great job Micheal I work at a camera store selling these cameras and they are both great!
    I happen to be invested in Nikon, I own the D850 and the D500. I use my D850 for portrait and landscape I use the D500 with the Nikon 200-400mm f4 and 200-500mm for the reach I get. For video, low light, and IBIS the Sony wins your right. The person who commented below was also right about the weather sealing Sony has none and Nikon has better lens choice.

  • @sidhumama
    @sidhumama Před 6 lety +4

    My favorite is back!! Thank you for this awesome video. Plz make a video on Sony A7III

    • @MMaven
      @MMaven  Před 6 lety

      Thank you for your support I’ll have one as soon as I can get my hands on it

  • @indysbike3014
    @indysbike3014 Před 6 lety +7

    I am waiting for the time that Sony puts a fast processor in all their camera's. The buffer clearing is always the weak point, even with the A9. For portraits I think the A7RIII is better because of eye AF and a big collection of fast high quality primes like the 85/1.4 GM , 100/2.8 STF and 50/1.4 Zeiss.

    • @MMaven
      @MMaven  Před 6 lety

      Good comments

    • @StylusDrop
      @StylusDrop Před 6 lety

      Nikon doesn't a large range of fast high quality primes???

    • @indysbike3014
      @indysbike3014 Před 6 lety

      The Sony primes are better quality. Check DxOMark. I don't think Nikon has a STF lens which gives a very special bokeh.

    • @unrelatedcomment
      @unrelatedcomment Před 6 lety

      Birds On A Stick

  • @guinso
    @guinso Před 6 lety +1

    Thanks for the review man! Happy to go with the d850 next month! :D

  • @piotrtomiak3058
    @piotrtomiak3058 Před 3 lety

    I believe that 12 photos contest is the real tie breaker here. As owner of Nikon D800 I was thinking about switching to Sony A7R III since it's getting a lot of positive comments, but I chose 10/12 in favor of Nikon. So much for system change ;) Great review! Kudos!

  • @Nat.ImagesLarge.F.Photographer

    Nikon yes,I'am happy with D810
    excellent camera!!

  • @jean-marcducommun8185
    @jean-marcducommun8185 Před 3 lety

    Today I bought a used D850 and I feel confirmed with my decision as the differences are in the" hair splitting" category - to be honest I have to say that I already own a D750 and a nice range of excellent Nikon lenses so the cost to switch would have been kind of prohibitive. But I am glad to know by this excellent comparison that my - somewhat forced - choice is finally not a bad one. Interesting that you didn't touch on ergonomics and the weight difference but I think once you mount good (read: heavy) lenses the weight of the body is not that important more so because I'm mostly interested in landscape photography where it's mounted on a tripod. Thank you for the tedious work! Great job.

  • @bobdriscoll3310
    @bobdriscoll3310 Před 3 lety +1

    Even today I would still love to see an epic shootout between the D850 and the A99ii DSLT. The A99ii has the same sensor as the A7Riii, but is so much better in a lot of ways, as it brings so many great mirrorless features to a DSLR style camera, and features like the hybrid auto focus (on-sensor focus points of the A7Riii + a dedicated focus sensor). Not going to happen, but I'd love to see just how well they do against each other, as I'm shooting the A99ii and the D850 has to be one of the best DSLR's ever. For sports, I think the A99ii would even beat the D850 pretty handily, but very close everywhere else. Oh well!

  • @L.V-Rider
    @L.V-Rider Před 4 lety

    Very good comparison and good information. I only have Canon and Nikon at the moment but is interested in the Sony A7R4. At this time of my comment, Sony increased their lens collection and have some new body's available. So it is improving.
    Interesting that a person commenting in another video was crapping all over Sony and referred to your videos to "prove" it. I don't see that you think Sony is crap in your balanced shootout.
    Thanks again.

  • @elias38
    @elias38 Před 6 lety +2

    Love the intro! Great comparison as always!

  •  Před 6 lety +1

    Your reviews are so good that I watch them, even though I have no intention to buy either of these cameras (for financial reason). If I may make a suggestion for future videos it would perhaps be that you consider skipping the dynamic range test, simply because at the development stage that sensors are at the differences are so small that it is not relevant for the majority of users, in my opinion. Thanks for yet another great review.

    • @MMaven
      @MMaven  Před 6 lety +1

      Richard Rönnbäck I appreciate your feedback. In this case yes, they are very close- however in past comparisons there have been huge differences, for example the A7rii vs 5DSR, or 70D vs D7100 & has I not included others would have asked for it, thanks again

  • @MikesInsight
    @MikesInsight Před 6 lety +2

    Excellent review Michael! I'm heavily invested in long glass for sports/wildlife shooting, so it's good to know that the D850 is solid if I want to continue on the Nikon side. But I am seriously impressed with the Sony A7RIII. Getting closer to the fork in the road. Just want to see what offerings Nikon will have later this year on the mirrorless side.

    • @MMaven
      @MMaven  Před 6 lety

      I love my D850 & for now Nikon has a terrific native telephoto lens advantage, but that gap is closing, and Sony is pushing innovation very hard. It’ll be interesting to watch how Nikon responds because it seems like they still want to fight. Where’s Canon?

  • @ericleszkowicz898
    @ericleszkowicz898 Před 6 lety +2

    First...So many of the samples lighting making it hard to discern.
    Second...LOVE this way of deciding as I would have Nikon bias.
    Third only one image was Sony selection for me. The A7 has some strange skin tone things going on.
    Keep doing this type of blind reviews despite I disagree with your conclusion of using the A7 for portraits. Also I was SHOCKED at how good the D850 was at video - you may have sold me on the 850 :-)

  • @nafiez8719
    @nafiez8719 Před 3 lety +1

    8/12 for Nikon. I have a Nikon ans some lenses and now I know I will upgrade someday to this D850. Too many people speak about Sony, but well I don't shoot video that much, and sports neither. Another important question that does not appear in coparisons, is what about the manufacturing quality and the durability, I know Nikon's are build like a tank, what about the Sonys ?

  • @Powerstroke98
    @Powerstroke98 Před 3 lety

    Wow, nearly two years ago, would like to see a real world review of the D850 and Z7II now!

  • @ashj1979
    @ashj1979 Před 6 lety +2

    One word: Awesome! Thank you, Michael!

  • @veereswaranv7152
    @veereswaranv7152 Před 6 lety +3

    Your reviews are the best Michael...Please give the review about A7iii....

    • @MMaven
      @MMaven  Před 6 lety +2

      As soon as I can get one

  • @emanuelsanchez3762
    @emanuelsanchez3762 Před 6 lety +1

    You're doing the best reviews! Thank you!

  • @aniruddhroychoudhury5097
    @aniruddhroychoudhury5097 Před 6 lety +1

    Hey buddy you got a subscriber. Such a great,honest and impartial review

  • @skurt2752
    @skurt2752 Před 5 lety

    By far the best review I’ve seen on the two. It’s obvious Sony takes the win for video. But as a long time Nikon shooter I had to stick with the 850. The portraits are just beautiful on this camera. But at the end of the day it isn’t the camera but the knowledge of the photographer.

  • @stevehercules7372
    @stevehercules7372 Před 6 lety

    A good honest informative review can never be too long. Thanks mate, hoping to get the D850 one day but happy with the D500 for now. Look forward to many more of your reviews.

  • @tbreit
    @tbreit Před 6 lety

    Michael: You are one of the few I think could give a fair "real user applications" vs. camera "matrix" for users. I am sick of goobers' and their counter-top babbling so your camera matrix for each category would be a great reference. Also a "fix this and you win" step-up list for each camera would be fascinating.

  • @alexandergomes3317
    @alexandergomes3317 Před 6 lety +2

    fantastic analytical review sir..
    love your no holds bar reviews mate!
    Question.....why the 24/70 non vr nikon lens sir?

  • @theaprum1
    @theaprum1 Před 6 lety

    I think it is a great thing that both manufacturers are putting out stellar product where the buying decision comes out to a hair split. I think the only thing missing is Canon in the mix so hopefully Canon can get into the game. I have the Nikon D750 and recently just added the Sony A7R III to get IBIS, superior video, extra megapixels, and pixel shift. I have long been a Nikon fan and have four Nikon cameras so this is my first non-Nikon camera. For most events I need two cameras so I plan on keeping and using both the D750 and the A7R III. I will mount a wide angle lens on my D750 for group portrait, and a portrait lens on the A7R III for portrait.

  • @teammaestroo1519
    @teammaestroo1519 Před 5 lety +3

    Probably one of the most honest review i have watched between the Nikon d850 and Sony a7riii. Video was really helpful.

  • @radiorosienashville
    @radiorosienashville Před 6 lety +1

    You’re like the mad scientist of Cameras! Love it !

  • @HectorRiveraPhotography
    @HectorRiveraPhotography Před 6 lety +70

    Nikon 850 for me !!! Nikon glass rules

    • @floatingrabbit3556
      @floatingrabbit3556 Před 6 lety +5

      Dude sony GM glass is rated higher than zeiss class, which to me is better than even canon's L series glass (which is said to be the best glass out there)

    • @joeblow9931
      @joeblow9931 Před 6 lety +2

      rated by who? BS mark?

    • @hofra01
      @hofra01 Před 6 lety +1

      Scotty Zepplin what Hector meant is the amount of the glasses that Nikon offers.

    • @AllenFreemanMediaGuru
      @AllenFreemanMediaGuru Před 5 lety

      hofra moh Would you want or need a larger selection of glass for Sony, or would you be happy that the Sony lenses kick the ass of everyone else in every way?

    • @AllenFreemanMediaGuru
      @AllenFreemanMediaGuru Před 5 lety

      Scotty Zepplin I have owned and used Nikon’s top glass, but Sony (especially the GM lenses) blows away the competition!

  • @greyhoundrick5568
    @greyhoundrick5568 Před 5 lety

    Fantastic video Michael! Looking forward to purchasing your tutorials! Best to you!

  • @MarceloTezza
    @MarceloTezza Před 6 lety +1

    MORE DRAMATIC THAN EVER! YES! Thank you sir!

  • @cacanut123
    @cacanut123 Před 4 lety +1

    this is a great vid! i own nikon d850 and im loving it so far

  • @RedEyeJedigaming
    @RedEyeJedigaming Před 5 lety +2

    I'm looking for a camera for video and photos ahoots but primarily for video with full frame, great color quality, shoots in low light and for slow motion.$4k budget

    • @Powerstroke98
      @Powerstroke98 Před 3 lety

      Interesting! I wish Nikon would come out with a non-video DSLR, as I have the D750 and have never used the video feature, as I prefer using my iPhone. A stand-alone video camera can do the job of 'video' for those that want video, or as I do, use an iPhone (or Go Pro).

  • @VICVideopIC
    @VICVideopIC Před 6 lety

    Great comparison!
    I hesitated a lot between the two and at the end I went for the D850, mostly because of lens availability.
    I do mostly time lapses and I must admit that I really miss the EV and the possibility of checking the progress of a TL on live view

  • @GuamPhotography
    @GuamPhotography Před 6 lety +2

    Another great video! Thank you sir! -James

  • @OutdoorsIQ
    @OutdoorsIQ Před 6 lety

    Hands down the best comparison, well done!

  • @amdenis
    @amdenis Před 6 lety

    Freaking beautiful job-- great production values, tremendous level of useful detail and accuracy... and you actually know what you are talking about (what a concept).
    This is my first video of yours I have seen, but it won't be the last, as you have a new subscriber.
    Thanks for caring enough to do such a great job!

    • @MMaven
      @MMaven  Před 6 lety

      Very kind words- thank you Andrew

  • @CameraMystique
    @CameraMystique Před 6 lety

    I've bought your books and guides over the last few months, they' re probably the best. As far as this test, one important note: I have measured my stock of new SD and XQD cards, all purchased new and genuine, and I have found huge differences between two batches (42 vs. 122 !!!!). They were supposed to be the same... this difference can hugely affect buffer performance.

    • @MMaven
      @MMaven  Před 6 lety +1

      Thank you so much for your support! Yes, there appears to be some variability with number of shots written without any explanation or understanding as to why! lol makes no sense!

    • @CameraMystique
      @CameraMystique Před 6 lety

      The difference in measurements were so enormous that I suspected counterfeit cards, however, both batches were from B&H, same exact appearance/packaging, serial numbers checked out. I checked them in all my 4 computers - though the actual results were different numbers, the difference was the same percentage-wise (more than double!).
      Also, I've noticed two more things when I compared the cameras (the Sony was a rental): a) In pushing very dark areas in post, the Nikon was 100% color neutral (vs. the D810 which would make the recovered areas redish...), while the Sony would alter color. I was so impressed with the D850's sensor, I made a short clip about this finding: czcams.com/video/l_PfFYRL6Zs/video.html
      b) It was impossible to operate the Sony in cold weather with gloves. One day at minus 12 the Sony was hesitating and then stopped working. It started again after 10 minutes in the car. The Nikon took the shots as if it was normal weather after 25 mins exposure to minus 16 wind blast.
      I was always flirting with Sony for the size (and the D850s shutter makes ugly noise compared to the D810), but the above were deal breakers... for now.

  • @arunapurohit5730
    @arunapurohit5730 Před 2 lety

    I really liked your unbiased information. You gain new subscriber .
    Keep it up and also make a video for how to use camera as beginners .

  • @tomherriman6244
    @tomherriman6244 Před 6 lety

    I rented the α7R III recently but I could not access the menus while it was writing to the buffer.
    You should test the RAW record time on the Nikon without compression. The difference in frame rate may not be caused by the actual write speed. With any compression, the processor has to do the math in order to compress the file before it sends it to storage. This is probably why the Sony has similar performance regardless of raw or jpg.
    As a landscape shooter, I do not agree that pixel shift is a good thing. Shifting pixels and then resampling the scene takes time. When you have moving objects this equates to blur. Personally, I have never found a completely still landscape scene. Now you could argue that at 1/8000 shutter, you could sample 4 times at 1/2000 each. That would be great if I were shooting at noon on a bluebird day. But we landscape types tend to shoot in low light situations with much longer exposure times.
    I can see pixel shift as an advantage in a completely controlled environment where there is zero motion. So when does that come into play? Food stills for billboards?
    Otherwise, great review. I love that you randomized the 12 portrait images and left it to the viewer to decide.

  • @spikeygroeneweg2809
    @spikeygroeneweg2809 Před 6 lety +1

    Love your reviews. Thank you for making this video.

  • @tedgegi155
    @tedgegi155 Před 5 lety +1

    Thank you for being so objective about the comparison.

  • @switcheyephotography5722

    Every digital photo is born RAW. JPEGs are processed from RAW. It's a trade-off because RAW is BIG and takes longer to write to storage while JPEG is smaller but requires processing before it can be written. If you do a lot of editing you'll want RAW. I use JPEG and add some noise reduction when necessary.

  •  Před 6 lety +1

    Another great video Michael, thanks for sharing.

  • @rvnraju911
    @rvnraju911 Před 3 lety

    This is the best Video for A7R III vs D850. Thank you.

  • @evanauster7325
    @evanauster7325 Před 5 lety

    Great job on this video. You put a lot of effort into it and covered a lot of very important topics. Congratulations.

  • @arnaudtisset
    @arnaudtisset Před 3 lety

    You deserve much more audience !

  • @OseiAk
    @OseiAk Před 6 lety

    This is indeed the greatest camera review channel and I will find some way to forever support this channel

    • @MMaven
      @MMaven  Před 6 lety

      Tony A thank you Tony! I really appreciate it.

  • @ronaldagee7417
    @ronaldagee7417 Před 4 lety

    Could you please make a video of portrait comparison using base ISO and NEUTRAL on both cameras. I would be shooting at base ISO for any portraits. Love the videos and the way you go about testing but for portraits I want to know what the cameras best is, not how it compares at a certain ISO. Thank you, keep up the amazing work. Your videos are informative and more objective than some others.

  • @Mr.ReanuKeeves
    @Mr.ReanuKeeves Před 6 lety +1

    I feel like switching to Nikon just for the d850

  • @daniellaquaphotography

    I love my D800 and I think i would upgrade to D850. My Sony A7s2 is nice but for Fotos I always prefer the D800. Thanks for the very detailed and super good comparison!