Chicago Blizzard 1967 Radio Reports Part I
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- This is the first of four clips of a broadcast from the 1967 Chicago blizzard. The broadcast came from WCGO and WTAS studios in Chicago Heights Illinois and surrounding south suburban Chicago areas. The audio was originally recorded on a reel-to-reel by a Crete resident. The reel and recorder were later auctioned off when the resident had passed on and we have been lucky to obtain it. The video was done with stills of roughly half actual pictures from that blizzard (Chicago Tribune's "Big Snow", January, 1967) and half random pictures not necessarily from the blizzard, but there for filler, hopefully to make this all so not boring. Sorry if the video is boring, but at least the audio portion is genuinely from that time. It may not all completely jive together, but we tried our best for it to. Please enjoy!
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My grandfather was the fire chief mentioned in the recording. Growing up in the Heights at that time was wonderful. I was a toddler in 67 but I certainly remember that day and all of the stories friends and families had. 50 years and I still get choked up thinking back how great Chicago Heights was and how depressing it is now.
I hear you, same with where I'm from. Dolton, IL used to be so wonderful growing up in the 60s. Not so much anymore...crime and violence has soared. The town is unrecognizable now, nothing like it used to be. So sad.
@@sarahshouse1890 It's the same in my hometown of Rockford, Illinois. In the 1960s, there were dozens and dozens of tool & dye shops, furniture factories, steel shops and so very much more! If you quit your job in the morning you could easily have another job in the afternoon. Now in 2022, they are all gone; Barber Coleman was the last holdout, now they're gone too. There are literally no decent places to work in Rockford unless you consider being a waiter or waitress a good job with a future. The neighborhoods were clean, well-kept, the people were friendly, now the majority of them are crime-ridden. It's just heartbreaking! I finally had enough and moved my family to Europe, America lost 70,000 factories in the decades after WWII, (They can't tell me that wasn't intentional!) China is now the 'new America'; economically speaking. God Help America!
Yes so tragic how neighborhoods, cities and countries are destroyed by those without intelligence, wisdom, judgement, responsibility, ethics, morals, principles not to mention the lack of virtually any other positive virtues or talents ...just look around to see who causes what, positive and negative
Born in the blizzard at St. Catherine's in Hammond. Dad was stranded in a tavern for 2 nights. Played cards the whole time.
It's amazing how we're all still talking about this today. I grew up around Glen Park and it's really sad to see how things have changed. Still live in Da Region though. Just waaaaay south.
I do remember the blizzard of '79 clear as a bell. No school and WGN aired a bunch of Abbott and Costello movies !
Glen Park is the southernmost neighborhood in Gary Indiana.
Great memories of this day! I lived in Dolton, IL and was 8 years old back then. The most snow Ive ever seen! Thank you so much for this awesome video!🙏I love to reminisce about the good old days! ❤🫠❤
Thanks for Your story! Always love to hear about what people did when they was around for that blizzard. Thank You for Your kind words!
I was on leave from the Air Force and had visited my grandparents in eastern Kentucky. I picked THAT day to drive from there to Chicago to my parents' house. I left Kentucky early in the morning, about 6:00 am. There was no snow, just cloudy. I headed west along Route 52. I had a 1959 Chevy but there was a short in the radio wiring and it kept going on and off so I just left the radio off most of the time as it was annoying. Route 52 went through Cincinnati then to Indianapolis. Near Lafayette I would get on to Route 41 due north.
It was between Cincinnati and Indianapolis that snow started. I began listening to the radio and found out about the huge storm heading that way. Somewhere near Kentland it started getting treacherous. I stopped at a gas station and they were kind enough to let me pull into a bay and put on my tire chains (I'm from Chicago!). But I didn't get much further when Route 52 was closed, so I turned west and went into Illinois. I made it to the little town of Watseka, about 60 miles south of Chicago, and all roads were closed. I made it to a little motel and shared a room with two truck drivers who were stuck. One of them was driving a beer truck!
Spent two nights at that motel when roads started opening. I started north that morning and made it within four blocks of my parents' house near Midway Airport when I got completely stuck on a side street. That took over 13 hours of driving. Got my car out two days later. A week later I left to go to the Middle East.
Lived in Tacoma, Washington, in 1967. But we were very briefed on the blizzard Chicago. It was national news.
Wow i don't think i was aware that is was national news! Thanks!
Anything regarding that significant amount of (snowfall totals) made the news.
Now that the libraries have gone digital, they sold everything.......Totally sucks
One doesn't realize something good, until it's gone forever!
I always enjoy reading people's feedback/comments Re: such history and the time spent. You would have rocked it in film school. Grew up in Hammond, IN. This occurred before I was born.
This happened about seven years before i was born also. Got ahold of these reel tapes in the mid-eighties and made the movies about twelve years ago. Thank You for the kind words! i never went to film school but had fun doing these with a movie maker and some beers lol.
This is fascinating. I really love these old AM Radio clips. Thank you for posting.
You got it! Glad you enjoyed them!
My sisters and I used to walk our dog, Friskie, down the long alley just a few steps from our home in Hyde Park. When we took him out during the blizzard, we almost couldn't find our way home. All of the little landmarks we knew had vanished under mountains of drifting snow. It turned out that we were walking on garage rooftops without realizing it - the snow was that deep!
Cool.
I loved listening to this and seeing the pictures! I grew up in Hazel Crest and recall this blizzard somewhat. We must have gotten out of school early that day (Pottawatomie School), and my neighbor/best friend was at our home because her mother, a teacher at Highlands Elementary, I believe, would typically get home a little later than we did. I remember looking out the front door at the accumulating snow and my mom getting off the phone with my friend's mom, who told her that some of the students couldn't get home because the snow was too deep for their parents to pick them up. So they were spending the night at the school. My friend and I thought it was a huge adventure, didn't really understand the seriousness of it at the time. I was 7, my friend was 8 at the time. My husband, a CZcamsr "Kent Oviatt: Vintage Tech," collects and repairs vintage and antique electronics, BTW! Check out his channel! Thanks again for this great blast from the past!
Thank you for enjoying the videos and sharing your adventure!
I cant imagine Hazel Crest then. I remember vaguley when Country club hills was corn field or something like that where the Walmart and theater is now. That was 1990.
I was 20 at this time. I remember it being very mild a few days before the storm. My brother and I walked 2 miles home from my guitar lesson that night hoping for an early Spring. It just kept snowing. I remember people abandoning their cars on the street as they couldn't move. It was unbelievable.
You still remember?
I still remember... and I lived in Dolton, IL 20 minutes south of Chicago. I was 8 at the time. We were sent home from school early due to the weather report. We lived 7 blocks from Lincoln Grade School. Snow was coming down at a very fast pace and ended up drifting past the windows of our one story home. My Dad was a Science and Biology teacher at Thornridge High School. He walked a mile home because the roads were bad, grabbed our sled and trudged uptown to a little grocery store and brought back eggs, milk, bread, etc on the sled! Next day us kids played in the snow and made igloos. My Mother made us hot cocoa. Oh the memories of that day!! It was a lot of fun. Yes, most of us do have a good recollection of what happened back then. It was a very memorable event in our lives.
I was 7 in 1967, and we kids all had a blast during the blizzard of '67! My brother and I dug Viet Kong-style tunnels in the massive snowbanks. BTW., I only saw one foreign car in the photos of snow-bound Chicagoland, now that is almost all we see!
Thank You for the story! Always love to read what people experienced back then!
@@boonshit I loved reading the personal stories as well. I forgot to compliment you on the awesome job you did with your series of videos, Bravo!
@@MrMenefrego1 Thank You so much! Kind words! It was a fun project to do along with a few Beers lol!
This was a fun time. I was at my sisters house a 2 story, I loved jumping off the building and into the snow!
That must have been a blast Patricia! Thank You for sharing that; always love to hear peoples' stories from back then!
A blizzard in Chicago in January. Who'd a guessed it?
Forreals!
Thank you for this great Blast from the Past HeelerZ soundZ! I love reading all the memories and comments from the greatest snow event ever.
You got it! It was fun putting these videos together. Thank you for your story of that day! Always love to hear them!
I was in boot camp great lakes and it began snowing the day after I arrived. I shoveled snow in my civilian clothes. Had no idea it was such a blizzard since boot recruits didn’t get newspapers and radio access. There were 14,000 recruits keeping venues clear on base. No shortage of muscle to shovel around the clock.
I was 6 years old when this snowstorm hit. I remember going out and suddenly landing in snow that was up to my neck!!! I was SCARED!!!! Something I will never forget!
I remember jumping off our garage roof into the snow drifts. I was 10 yrs. old. great time to be a kid back then. we lived in Rogers Park near Clark st and Pratt ave. I also found $20.00 laying on the street that day. that was alot of money in 1967. lol
Thats alot of money to find now.
i feel like im in a car listening the news that's weird!ilove this! ilike the sound!
I was 10 and lived on Carmen Ave. between Lincoln and Western. My brother had to go out the second floor window to shovel the snow away from the front door. I got a sled for Christmas and pulled it to the store for my mom. There was no bread or milk left. She bought powdered milk and flour. We had a blast playing in all that snow, building igloos and tunnels! And oh the snow ball fights!
I grew up out there, what a time warp!!!
What I remember most about this day was waking up and being told schools were closed. I thought I was dreaming. What a happy day.
Snow days was the best news when we was kids!
I LOVED that! Back then, schools never closed for any reason, especially Catholic schools. Being out of school was like a dream come true.
I remember this well
It's great to hear from those who was there and/ or remember it!
Thanks for posting, Great quality for such an old recording,
thank-you for recording this.I was 9yrs.old and still dont know why the nuns at St.Bernedadent in evergreen park didn't let us go home.till aprox,11:30 it was up to my belly button and I walked over 2/1/2ml.pushing the drift's with both hand crying I almost sat down and gave up but I could here my mother yelling.I had navy blue saddle shoe's that had to be peeled off.I was only 48pounds.I now suffer from ptsd as the tornado came threw our block
I was 13 when this happened, and my family lived in Park Ridge. Both of my parents left work early, and managed to make it home before it got too hopeless, although my mother's car was parked sideways in the driveway. I remember shoveling our drive and front sidewalk. A LOT. You would shovel in one direction, and when you turned around, you couldn't tell that it had been shoveled! I also had to get up on the roof to shovel snow off, especially after finding out that others had collapsed roofs from the weight of the snow. Hot cocoa NEVER tasted sooooo good!
What a crazy couple of days it must have been for ya! Have ad to shovel my roof in the last few years also for that same reason. For sure some good hot chocolate was the treat afterword!
@@boonshit I solved the snow problem by moving to Phoenix. Been here 40 years this month! I do miss the first day of fresh snow....but that's it.
Wasn't around then but I use to look though old papers at the PR Library and front page shows a man pulling his son up Prospect Ave. near the 6 corner intersection.
My dad and the janitor of our building got up on our roof to knock snow off too. It was the first time I had ever seen my Dad scared.
@@MIKECNW Hey, is that Citizens Bank there in your profile pic?
I was 10 years old when this storm hit!
Me and my friends actually dug out a snow tunnel to the nearby Jewel food store, about two blocks away! However, my mother refused to use it! I wonder why?
This is pretty cool. WCGO was our local radio station in Chicago Heights, and the studio was located in our local shopping center where our mom did her shopping, just about 0.3 miles from our home. I remember this day very well; hearing the initial forecast for 4" of snow on WCGO while eating my cereal...then being sent home from Greenbriar Elementary school at lunch. I then remember my dad walking home from the Flossmoor IC station 'cuz he couldn't get his car out of the parking lot.
Thanks for the nice words Altfactor! It's either on part III or part IV, the radio announcer mentions the Cape Canaveral tragedy; i wasn't born when this all took place but found out about it when i first heard the original reel recordings; that was about 1985 or 86 for me, but because of my Love for snow i always found the reports very interesting; i converted the reels to mp3s and made these videos a couple years ago and still like to listen to them; sometimes i still play the reels!
Great job putting this together.
This broadcast is a masterpiece. I’ve listened repeatedly and it’s still fascinating
Stand by for NEEEEWS!!!!
Lol!
I was 9 years old and my older brother and I were picking my mother up from the hospital. She just had breast cancer surgery and we couldn't make it from the end of the street to 5 house's down to get her in the house. We lived near 79th and Kedzie
This brings back some memories of when my Grandfather and his Brother were stuck in Chicago at the Union Stockards waiting out the storm during the 1967 Blizzard. They hauled about 30 head of fat cattle from our farmstead in Western Iowa to Chicago in a 1966 Chevrolet C-70 twin screw and a Wilson single deck cattle trailer. They offloaded the Cattle at the Union Stockyards after a six hour wait along (what I belive was along) Halsted and 47th St., and took shelter in the warm Stockyards cafe.
Yes, right near the old Amphitheater!
Wow! Well i'm glad it all worked for You Obert! i always like to hear other peoples' experiences on this day; thanks for sharing!
we dug out the cars on Warwick Ave to Pulaski. Also buried the cars of neighbors that refused to help. We walked down the middle of the expressway from Pulaski road to Addison. Could not believe all the abandoned cars, trucks and buses. What fun to be a kid that day! Luckily mom had a ton of groceries at home including hot chocolate with those little marshmallows Great memories, love the comments.
Excellent story! Must have been a fun time for alot of the kids!
I was 15 years old the year of the "big snow". I was a student at Lane Tech high school and lived in the Lincoln Park neighborhood at the time. It took me hours to get home and by the time I did,my dad was leaving the house to come look for me.We kids didn't have to deal with cars or getting to work and we loved the snow!
I was 16, going to New Trier. Started walking home to Wilmette in drizzle and light snow. By the time I got home the snow was up to my knees, and thank goodness I wore boots that day as a "fashion statement"! No one used backpacks back then, so my books were a bit waterlogged from the relentless snow! Remember walking a lot in the streets because there was little traffic, and the sidewalks were totally clogged up with snowl.
FIFTY YEARS AGO TODAY!
Fifty five years ago today!
I was 4 years old on the southeast side. Lots of snow. We were jumping off the 2nd floor fire escape into the back yard and then tunneling back to the steps to do it again. ..
OMG, this is awesome! I was 8 and remember it very well. I lived on Crawford ave across from Rich Central. My dad pulled me on a sled down the middle of Crawford Ave. to the grocery store on 183rd and Crawford in Country Club Hills. It was fun and scary at the same time.
Even though it was a really powerful storm and really socked it to us back then, my husband & I look back on it with fond memories. I was 20 and he was 23. We were young then and had tons of energy. We lived in the Co-Ops in PF and all our neighbors banded together and we literally dug the whole parking lot out by hand over the course of a few days. Everything came to a stand still for three days and people skied down the middle of Western ave. It was great to time to help one another. ;-)
This is a great part of history.
That must have been scary! Thanks for sharing that Dillysgirl! i always like to hear the stories that are sparked from these clips!
lived in the western subs---was 60 the day before..we played baseball on the street---LOL
Wow! What a one day change in the weather ay?!
@53operagirl Thanks for enjoying the clip! They were a fun project, and i always like when the subject of this blizzard stirs up stories like yours! i used to live in Park Forest as well.
This was 2 months before I was born and I was born near Chicago
I lived in McKinley Park near Archer and 35th. It was never so quiet as it was the next morning. Then we started shoveling.....
I was 5 yrs old at the time and remember this vividly we lived in Wood Dale on school st .
@pfriverrat Excellent story Pfriv! glad to have read it! i wasn't born yet for the 67 blizzard either; my brother gave me this old reel player and a bunch of reels when i was eleven and this broadcast was one one of them. i've always loved snow and every year since i would listen to it, hoping for a winter like that. i guess You and me both finally got our experience with it this year huh?! i used to live in Park Forest too so i know the area; what an experience for You driving the plow!
@dmwierz459 Thanks! i always love hearing stories like yours when the subject of this blizzard would come up. i've been around the Heights for a long time too and remember WCGO. They just went off the air a couple of years ago. Supposedly WTAS's last broadcast was in the mid eighties.
I bet even the food taste better back in 67’. Now everything is processed and bad for ya!
Most likely!
The Hawk
@meezerlover Wow! That sounded like a great time actually. This was a big reason i wanted to put these together and post them; i wanted to share it all but i Love the real stories about it that i get, especially the one that are so close to home for me. i used to live in Park Forest myself, in the 90's. Thank You for sharing Meezerlover, and glad You enjoyed!
Then on Feb. 7, 1967, it would be New York City's turn.
That's right! Hell of a Winter across the states!
I was a little kid when all this 1967 snow was going on
Although I'm from Boston, I recall as a tyke seeing the "Huntley/Brinkley" newscast on January 27th, 1967, and this storm was their top story.
But two hours later, this story was overshadowed nationally after news broke from Cape Canaveral that the three astronauts who were to fly Apollo 1 the next month had been killed in a flash fire that consumed the interior of their command module on the launch pad during a countdown rehearsal.
Outside of Chicago, the storm immedietaly became a non-story.
My dad was 11 almost 12 yrs in January 1967 he missed school for a week after the storm
@musicmom1212 Thanks for sharing Musicmom! i wanted to share these but i Love the stories i get back, especially the one close to home for me. i'm familiar with the area; i lived in P.F. and Chicago Hts! i'll bet that was a fun and scary time! i wasn't born then but my bro gave me an old reel player and reels when i was eleven in the mid-eighties and one of the reels had this broadcast on it. Being a big snow fan i would play it every year hoping for a winter like that; then 2011 happened!
Nice job!
I remember this storm well...my daughter was 7 months old and I ran out of milk..
no snow blowers then, everything was done by hand. And we were told then that this storm would only amount to 4 inches...
@collegeman1988 ...guess they had some time on their hands that day lol! Thanks for sharing the story Collegeman; always like when these clips stir up stories and this was a good one!
God morning, I was nine years old when the snow of 1967 hit Chicago, we waited to hear that there would be no school that day. We were elated about that. My dad had to put on his boots and find his shovel in order to shovel the mountain of snow on our front and back steps. I was told the snow covered the schools doors, and we would have to wait it out at home before we could return to school. I didn't care we had a snow day and was happy about it. I didn't know people died during that time, our mother and father didn't speak of such this to us.
Wow what a day it was for Ya! Yeah it's sad that lives was lost even though the kids would have loved it. i know i would have loved a snow day! Thank You for this story Chaplin Taylor!
So at 9:45 or so, how does the completed Hancock Center get into a 1967 film? I am all about time travel but did not realize it was available in '67.
Not all the pic jive. Did the best I could lol.
@@boonshit You did a great job! I was trying to make a joke about time travel. No offense intended. The only reason it caught my eye is because I worked worked on the building in '69.
@@denali9449 Lol no worries friend! Someone pointed out to me that the nurses stations was from the '40's or '50's but hey. Wow you definitely have experience with the city back then! Excellent!
@@denali9449 Thank you for the kind words!
@crazymae328 i know what you mean! i've had these tape reels for almost twenty six years now and i've been listening to them for that long. Even though i was born in the mid seventies and wasn't here for the '67, i would listen to this every winter and pretend i was there. That reel and the player both still work to this day and even though the final mp3 of it here was filtered a little, it didn't need much. The original is still pretty clear!
@retroexplosion1. i was lucky to be given this tape reel with the audio from my brother when i was about ten. i actually wasn't born until after this storm either; seven years later, but i've been listening to that tape for 25 years, waiting for a blizzard like 2011!
@meezerlover Wow that is crazy. i heard about the bread and milk shortages back then. If it makes you feel any better though, my wife and i dug our driveway out last week with one shovel; no snow blower for us in 2011 either, and it's about a four-car sized driveway. Well we weren't getting much Chicago snow there for years it seemed. i must say it was fun though!
The day before this storm I washed my car in shorts. Had to drive to Elgin to register for college or risk the draft. Nearly died on that road.
I hear a gunshots
I was 24, and I remember. I spent the night in a taxi, and I am 5'9", and snow was over my chest, as I Finally plowed through the alley to my South Shore Apartment. I still went to work, that afternoon.
Wow Acajudi! That must have been the strangest night in that Cab! You had to of been one of the very few who did make it to work. Probably just you and the radio broadcasters lol! Thanks for sharing!
HeelerZ I was in the cab with 6 other people. I walked to the 63 Stony Island el station from 67th and Jeffrey. Check out the 1949 Blizzard in Wyoming etc.
@stevezur No problem! It was fun putting it all together. i still have the original reels and the reel player, which are both still in tact and work fine! (i don't think the reel player records anymore, but still plays!) Even though i recorded the audio into the computer and filtered it a little bit admittedly, the original reel is still in good shape! Every year, sometime in mid winter i play the original reels for personal tradition and enjoyment.
I hope you read my comments about libraries having book, DVD,CD, sales. I tried to look up a CoverGirl Lipstick Ad from 2015 on a digital magazine site, what a total disaster.......
@@melaniekrygoski9284 Sorry, didn't see that. Where are Your comments posted?
i came to Chicago January 1967 and live near Irving Park came straight from Sicily italy
+Luciano Miceli I worked at the KFC on Irving and Ashland? in 72.
i was born and raise in sauk village . i remember it very well i was 12 yrs old. wow so much snow. it just keep coming down it started about 4pm if i remember correctly and by about 9 pm i knew there would be NO SCHOOL the next day. good times!
were almost neighbors G.!
@SFConifer i'm ready for 2011 Pt II!
@Nnuku72 Thanks and also thanks for letting me hog the computer for a while to do them!
@nursesoflosangeles Thank You for pointing that out Nurses! i know that not all the pictures jived completely with everything; did the best i could with the stills i found; just wish i had all pictures from the actual blizzard here; the audio however is completely genuine.
It worked out great. Gave up trying to unfreeze thighs in the midwest and living in the deserts of south California. I also remembered the storm was so bad my younger brother travelled with me and we brought the family dog! On the trip back from Elgin we hit a snow drift that killed the engine right in front of a tow truck. What luck.
I was conceived about 9 months after this snowstorm, and I was born in Chicago. My parents didn't go to work on the day of the snowstorm . . . hmm, I wonder what they did that day?
collegeman1988 Conceived that day, born 9 months later.
@topthrilldragster20 Yes and we were only a few inches away from number one! is it me or does it seem like '79 was a larger storm than '99?
I was 11, we aready had a bunch of snow on the ground and then this hit. My dad stuffed me full of oat meal, dressed me up nice and warm and then pushed me out the bathroom window with a snow shovel so I could dig the front door out. we shoveled over to the neighbors and they joined us. House by house we dug the whole neighbor hood out. Joining forces as we went. Most beautiful time I ever remember of people coming together.
I call bullshit on the estimates of stranded people. 300 at Thornridge HS? 150 at Riverdale Village hall? 200 at Dalton Bowl? 700 at Lansing? Bullshit. Divide those estimates by 10.
+nickarcher03 Did you live through it? I'll bet you didn't even live there!
Just as if Natural disaster was what people wanted. Natural conditions can bring out the best in people. BK
@boonshit I don't know. I wasn't even a year old when we got the snow in 1979.
@depechemodefan001 i know. i just wish no one was put in a bad situation because of the snow and everyone could be at home enjoying it instead.
i believe it is BigMike!
isn't it crazy? it's like you posted this in dec 2010 and predicted the feb 2011 blizzard! lol
20.2 inches of snow 3rd highest ever!!
23 inches then an additional 2.8 I was in first grade and walked home at approx 11:30 I kept looking out of the school window in fear because it was coming down fast and the drifts were hard to push away so I could walk so in certain places it was over 3ft high which for a tiny first grader I can only say had to be divine intervention to arrive 2mls down? Last 2 blocks I started to get very sleepy and just wanted to sit down and go to sleep had my Mother not had the nextdoor neighbor come and stay with my 3year old sister so she could start on foot and calling out my name I definitely wouldn't have continued on! The snow was like a sound insulator cuz I could hear my name but not what she was saying? Which was walk on the street! Thought she was saying walk on the sidewalk! Whole thing was extremely tramatizing afterwards nextday we took the tabogon out and she pulled us to 87th and California for milk and a couple of other things and are German Shepherd! Rear wheel cars are horrible and I find myself stuck with one now, so any mention of a storm and I don't care if I have no room for stuff I go out anyway
Get ready for Blizzard 2011
@boonshit Oops! I meant to say that I was BORN about 9 months after this snowstorm. Anytime I've asked my mother what my parents did that day, she denies that they worked to create me since they couldn't go to work.
@SFConifer et tu?
Filler photos are ok, but that one of nurses at 1:37 is from the early 1900s.
I don't know who did the editing on this but it's clearly made to appear that it occurred 40-50 years before it actually happened. The streams of video noise that appear throughout the video did not appear to viewers of television at the time this happened.
i put the whole thing together using mostly pics from the net. As stated in the description, not all of the pics jive. The old time video scratches were put in for effect. The audio is actually from reel to reel tapes recorded by someone on that day, therefore what You are hearing is a genuine recording and is exactly what the listeners heard that day. It was not intended to seem to have happened 40-50 years beforehand because that would have put it before Television. Alas, these were put together for simple entertainment and because i had fun doing them. They weren't posted so much for analyzation as they were for enjoyment. Don't think to deep on it Kevin!
Shut up Kevin