Mystery Vintage Archtop Rehab - Is it German, Japanese?

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  • čas přidán 10. 09. 2024

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  • @ricos1497
    @ricos1497 Před 7 měsíci +17

    I believe David Hasselhoff used this exact guitar on his massive hit single "Looking for Freedom". He used a local German luthier, who had recently become deaf after an unfortunate accident trying to re-enact an underwater scene from Baywatch with friends. It was the fourteenth Baywatch reenactment injury in the state of Baden-Württemberg that year, and so David felt compelled to give something back to the area, commissioning this one-off piece. Sadly the luthier died before finishing the piece. Relatives said that he was broken-hearted after hearing that the Baywatch guys were never getting back together, however witnesses suggest that he actually choked himself whilst playing a traditional German sex game. With the guitar still in two pieces, and the record company pressuring Hasselhoff to release the single, David rescued the guitar and, in his own words: "fired in a threaded insert, a couple of screws and called it done!".
    The single reached number one in Germany and a 25 metre statue was erected in memory of the fallen luthier, which Hasselhoff visits every year to pay his respects. Unfortunately, the guitar was lost after recording, its whereabouts remain a mystery to this day. If found, it's expected to be worth millions in Eastern Europe, where wealthy aristocrats have been searching for years without success.

    • @danmacmillan5114
      @danmacmillan5114 Před 7 měsíci +4

      That tracks.

    • @timsway
      @timsway  Před 7 měsíci +8

      Thank you. I looked it up and all this fits. Bidding now starts at $1,000,000 Euros.

    • @Da5idc
      @Da5idc Před 7 měsíci +4

      Is this serious? - it sounds like a fantastically weirdly creative sh!t story ❤😂

    • @tiltil9442
      @tiltil9442 Před 7 měsíci +2

      As a German, I can confirm 👍🏼

    • @myndfields8539
      @myndfields8539 Před 3 dny

      "Traditional German sex game.' May be the most German sentence ever.

  • @spliffburger
    @spliffburger Před 7 měsíci +5

    Gosh, I love the Framus/Orfeus red burst finishes. They always clean up so well.

  • @theothertonydutch
    @theothertonydutch Před 7 měsíci +2

    Egmond was a Dutch brand! In fact, in their time they were one of the biggest producers of guitars.I believe they also imported guitars.

    • @timsway
      @timsway  Před 7 měsíci +1

      I saw one of those show up on FB marketplace recently near me. So tempting...

  • @mattliebenau9083
    @mattliebenau9083 Před 7 měsíci +2

    When I saw the thumbnail my first thought was something along the lines of Hoyer or Hopf but I won’t argue with Japanese. I do have an Italian Crucinelli nylon string with the same machine bolt neck joint for whatever that’s worth.

  • @keithwindow4435
    @keithwindow4435 Před 7 měsíci +4

    It could be made by Musima, I have one of their jazz archtop acoustics and that has a single bolt neck although my one has a recessed bolt with some sort of brass ferrule. If you do a search for that brand you find that you find headstocks and fret markers very similar.
    Musima were based in the GDR (DDR) and made all types of musical instruments.

    • @ChrisHopkinsBass
      @ChrisHopkinsBass Před 7 měsíci +4

      I was going to say East Germany or Czechoslovakia. It looks German made but a bit cruder, hence East Germany perhaps? It doesn’t look like a typical Japanese guitar from the 60s

    • @timsway
      @timsway  Před 7 měsíci +1

      COuld be a Musima, but I couldn't find any others like it. E. Germany makes sense...

  • @RichardConnor1
    @RichardConnor1 Před 7 měsíci +4

    Many, many years ago I had an Antoria Jazzter archtop guitar. I remember it was very nice. I sold it in hard times. I'd forgotten about it. Thanks for the awesome video Tim.

    • @timsway
      @timsway  Před 7 měsíci +3

      We all have the ones that got away. Mine were a 1962 Guild thinline archtop and a 1986 Les Paul I bought brand new with money I earned at my high school jobs.

  • @sgsax
    @sgsax Před 7 měsíci +2

    Definitely Germanese. Really like the look of this, and it's perfectly playable. And good demonstration that not very restoration needs a complete bare wood strip down. This has been a really fun series. Now I need to watch out for these oddball guitars as I make my estate sale and flea market rounds. Thanks for sharing!

  • @audiotechlabs4650
    @audiotechlabs4650 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Tim, it’s fantastic! You have an eye for projects that turn out great! You knew what to do with the restoration. Light strings, yes, flat wounds, maybe? I think 1/2 wounds would give it a little more definition, that’s just me. Great entrainment! Thanxz

  • @davebauerart
    @davebauerart Před 7 měsíci +2

    Slightly faded finish looks totally appropriate and nice style choice on the pick guard.

  • @zhiracs
    @zhiracs Před 7 měsíci +2

    There are lots of examples of FASAN guitars with the three soundholes, the wave-like headstock, the checkered purfling, concave heel, the full-width block inlays, or some combination of all of them. Might be a low-end FASAN-originating model, either built by them or licensed out to another manufacturer.

  • @gothridercreations
    @gothridercreations Před 6 měsíci +2

    Great job mate, like the idea of the stand alone scratch plate and electronics 😀

  • @derkeksinator17
    @derkeksinator17 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Since you're above the f-holes with the electronics anyway, may I suggest adding an additional pickup. Maybe a piezo, or even an electret microphone or something.

  • @notanimposter
    @notanimposter Před 7 měsíci +3

    That floating pickguard looks sweet! What a perfect use for the funky sound hole

    • @timsway
      @timsway  Před 7 měsíci +2

      Thanks! Looks better than the hole. LOL.

  • @dandjurdjevicplus1
    @dandjurdjevicplus1 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Beautiful work! I especially love the pickguard!

  • @Da5idc
    @Da5idc Před 7 měsíci +2

    Love all the strangely interesting guitars you find 😊
    But, the third hole was really cool - I miss it

  • @thenonebadh
    @thenonebadh Před 7 měsíci +2

    It really could be a guitar by Isana. I have a "BlackPearl" in RedBurst an it has the same headstock as yours. And yes the writing on the sticker is most possibly german. It says something "der"(the) and "Hof"(home) in it. The font is typical for guitars of that time too.

  • @notenoughpaper
    @notenoughpaper Před 7 měsíci +2

    The text is clearly german! Maybe this british import brand also imported from germany, not just japan). Hof is a city in northern Bavaria close to the border of the Czech republic and close to the border to what was then east germany, more specifically the modern state of saxony. Maybe there is some conmnection (its only about 50km away) from before the separation to Markneukirchen, a city in southern saxony known for its long history of instrument making, particularily violins and guitars. If im not mistaken, Christian Friedrich Martin (founder of Martin!) is from around there (Musikwinkel)

  • @alioth2021
    @alioth2021 Před 7 měsíci +21

    It's not out of tune. It's just speaking German with a Japanese accent.

  • @jonboy8181
    @jonboy8181 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Really cool looking guitar. I really like the checking on the finish.

  • @duanetrivett750
    @duanetrivett750 Před měsícem +1

    I love Archtops and think you did good Job !

  • @bigkeg9173
    @bigkeg9173 Před 7 měsíci +6

    Really liking these resto videos 😊

    • @timsway
      @timsway  Před 7 měsíci +2

      Thanks, but I would call them "rehab" or "refurb". Restoration is a much more detailed process. I'm more like a pit crew :)

    • @bigkeg9173
      @bigkeg9173 Před 7 měsíci +3

      @@timsway Restomod lol

  • @billstolz9587
    @billstolz9587 Před 7 měsíci +3

    I just got back from a salvage store I bought three acoustic guitars needing work that he didn't want to do two are Japanese one Korean one I'm going to paint an change to electric the rest are good enough to restore. Keep up the good work😊

  • @stevenedwards4470
    @stevenedwards4470 Před 7 měsíci +3

    Did you clamp that heel break? The fact glue flowed out of it implies it's not really tamped down where it should be. I might've redone that break entirely.

    • @timsway
      @timsway  Před 7 měsíci +2

      Yea, It's all tightened up the best I could. I thought about rebreaking it but decided against it.

  • @WeirdandWired
    @WeirdandWired Před 7 měsíci +2

    That pickguard and pickup rig is smart, both the concept and the look 😎🎸 always enjoyable to watch your work and results!

    • @timsway
      @timsway  Před 7 měsíci +2

      Thanks. That was the whole reason I bought the guitar all those years ago, was to make that pickup idea :)

  • @sapelesteve
    @sapelesteve Před 7 měsíci +2

    Nice restoration on that guitar Tim! 👍👍🎸🎸

  • @axelnoi
    @axelnoi Před 3 měsíci +1

    Hi Tim. The guitar you have there is an old Arnold hoyer guitar. It’s from Germany. 1950’s

  • @gluteusmaximus1657
    @gluteusmaximus1657 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Hardware, non adjustable trussrod and bridge points to Germany. German companies produced under many different names for mail-order catalogs. Very often mixed components of several companies.

  • @ellenrugowski6255
    @ellenrugowski6255 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Hmmmm, it kind of looks like a Hoyer. The bridge is what gives it away for me. I've played a couple of 50s Hoyers with the exact same bridge.

  • @TheGorillafoot
    @TheGorillafoot Před 7 měsíci +2

    Sounds pretty good.

  • @garagemonkeysan
    @garagemonkeysan Před 7 měsíci +2

    Great video. Cool rebuild. 🙂❤️❤️❤️

  • @DavidRavenMoon
    @DavidRavenMoon Před 7 měsíci +2

    I see these guitars listed as “Antoria.” Not the original tailpiece though.

  • @rossamundbrennan7248
    @rossamundbrennan7248 Před 6 měsíci +1

    I had an Antoria with an identical headstock and very similar neck inlays. Binding was not as fancy. Can be tricky to figure out where they're from, as they were produced both in Germany and in Japan.

  • @richardjameswinter7642
    @richardjameswinter7642 Před měsícem +1

    Could be a Klira. I actually live in Bavaria and also have a nice Framus.

  • @miguelromero3256
    @miguelromero3256 Před 7 měsíci +1

    i remember you showing me this guitar when i was considering a commision a few years ago!!

    • @timsway
      @timsway  Před 7 měsíci +1

      I finally got to it! lol

  • @stevenleek1254
    @stevenleek1254 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Cheat a little by intonating the nut. Set the contact point back. There are formulas but I just cut and try. You don't have to remove much.

  • @kunaikai
    @kunaikai Před 7 měsíci +2

    I feel like you could get away with calling it refurbished.
    This would make an amazing slide guitar.

    • @timsway
      @timsway  Před 7 měsíci +2

      refurbished or rehabbed, not restored.

  • @bignotben
    @bignotben Před 7 měsíci +1

    This really looks like my Jolana that's waiting for the restoration in the closet.

  • @matthewridgeway9250
    @matthewridgeway9250 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Looking at the ornate herringbone binding etc, I have a feeling this guitar was made maybe in Spain are a Latino nation where guitars are traditionally made for tourists. I can not remember which nation, maybe even Argentina. So, yeah. Very nice guitar.

  • @swish9017
    @swish9017 Před 7 měsíci +8

    There's nothing better than coming home from a Friday night at the bar to a fresh video of Tim turning straw into gold.

  • @Rebar77_real
    @Rebar77_real Před 7 měsíci +2

    Never heard of using Windex for wet sanding. Reading a bit it sounds like a knifemaker's secret weapon(no pun intended). Thanks for the tip!
    Too bad about the guitar...

    • @timsway
      @timsway  Před 7 měsíci +2

      I guess the theory is its a little soapy so more lubricated than just water. I use it on metal sometimes and I figured there was enough finish and I was going to be using it lightly enough for this. I don't think it's a "too bad" for this guitar - It's really fun to play and sounds good, just tough to get tuned up!

    • @Rebar77_real
      @Rebar77_real Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@timsway Fair enough, fun is fun!

  • @_-_Michael_-_
    @_-_Michael_-_ Před 7 měsíci +2

    Hello. It’s definely German made but it’s not Hofner or Framus from type of craftsmanship I see there. It’s most likely Klira, Hopf or Hoyer or something I don’t remember from top of my head. Oh yes, it might be Fasan, that makes sence. From what I see it’s not Japan. The headstock is German.

  • @stevesstrings5243
    @stevesstrings5243 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Love it!

  • @GianmarioScotti
    @GianmarioScotti Před 7 měsíci +2

    Framus guitars have all had a zero fret, and so does this. The color scheme is also reminiscent of Framus.

    • @_-_Michael_-_
      @_-_Michael_-_ Před 7 měsíci +2

      Not Framus type of build from what I see. Klira, Hoyer or Hopf. Maybe something more exotic like Rossmeisl…

  • @ianbennett5245
    @ianbennett5245 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Antoria made - or, rather, had that brand name on - some excellent guitars. I have around six, including an archtop similar to this.

    • @timsway
      @timsway  Před 7 měsíci +1

      you have one with the extra sound hole? I'd love to see it.

    • @ianbennett5245
      @ianbennett5245 Před 6 měsíci

      No, sorry, mine doesn't have the extra soundhole, but it's similar otherwise.

  • @biggjimjones8381
    @biggjimjones8381 Před 10 dny +1

    This looks like an early 1960s Hoyer from Germany.

  • @pranananda108
    @pranananda108 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Could it be the thickness of the G string is wrong for that guitar? There are intonation issues when a guitar uses a plain G string when a wound is expected.

  • @cranque__7737
    @cranque__7737 Před 7 měsíci +2

    It's been a while since I've sat down and watched a youtube video like this all the way through, on account of my dopamine addicted zoomer brain. But this is a damn good video.

  • @presmasterflash7555
    @presmasterflash7555 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Man there’s finish checking… then there’s finish checking!

    • @timsway
      @timsway  Před 7 měsíci +2

      So the guitar spent a little time as a beach umbrella....

  • @toeffimz
    @toeffimz Před 7 měsíci +2

    Hi Tim, maybe you can try to take a better photo of the note inside the guitar and show what it says (as it definitively is German). So I/we could translate and help to find out where the gut was made. Cheers from Mainz, Germany.

    • @timsway
      @timsway  Před 7 měsíci +1

      Sadly, the photo really shows all that is there.The shadow might cover one or two letters but not together in one word. Those are the only groups of two or more consecutive letters.

  • @ErickC
    @ErickC Před 7 měsíci +2

    Hm, I think the zero fret is in the wrong place - it looks much further back than it ought to be.

    • @timsway
      @timsway  Před 7 měsíci +1

      one of them is wrong, that's for sure!

  • @toddnelson4784
    @toddnelson4784 Před 7 měsíci +2

    It looks like it may be a Japanese knockoff of a German Hoyer. I think the extra sound hole may have just been some "artistic license" taken by the manufacturer?

  • @lespaulgoldtoplover
    @lespaulgoldtoplover Před 7 měsíci +1

    I believe it is a Hoffner German brand guitar.

  • @gianny9484
    @gianny9484 Před 7 měsíci +2

  • @DJBuglip
    @DJBuglip Před 7 měsíci +1

    Link to that database Tim? I've got my dad's 64 Framus 12-string. I'd like to identify it conclusively.

    • @timsway
      @timsway  Před 7 měsíci

      www.framus-vintage.de/en/Guitars/Archtop/

  • @greylocke100
    @greylocke100 Před 7 měsíci +2

    When I saw the thumbnail for the video, my first thought was an old Harmony or Teisco

  • @gregorywhite921
    @gregorywhite921 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Could be a German Huttl

  • @Dutchluthier
    @Dutchluthier Před 7 měsíci +2

    Looks like a German Hopf guitar

    • @timsway
      @timsway  Před 7 měsíci +1

      it looks like a LOT of German guitars, but the sound holes, cutaway and position markers are different.

  • @user-cm5eg6vv1v
    @user-cm5eg6vv1v Před 7 měsíci +2

    Looks like migma from east germany

  • @Mr3DBob
    @Mr3DBob Před 7 měsíci +2

    The pearly position markers that go all across the fretboard and the lamination seen in the bare wood headstock seem Hofnerish to me. But those characteristics may have been common to European guitar manufacturers.

    • @timsway
      @timsway  Před 7 měsíci +1

      Yea, it was a thing of the era, region. However this one has only three of them, which is less common.

  • @vctrsknt
    @vctrsknt Před 7 měsíci +1

    Pretty sure thats a Hopf

  • @shawnfunstuff
    @shawnfunstuff Před 7 měsíci +1

    What kind of polish did you use?

    • @timsway
      @timsway  Před 7 měsíci +1

      Some kind of non silicone guitar polish from stew mac. I didn’t buy it. It was given to me.

  • @Milankoful
    @Milankoful Před 7 měsíci +2

    Framus Sorella copy?

    • @timsway
      @timsway  Před 7 měsíci +1

      "copy" is the key word! lol Copied by whom?

  • @drno2141
    @drno2141 Před 7 měsíci +2

    hopf ?? looks like ..definitly german to me

  • @asafsetty
    @asafsetty Před 7 měsíci +2

    It's by HÜTTL

    • @asafsetty
      @asafsetty Před 7 měsíci +1

      Did you noticed if the top is solid?

    • @timsway
      @timsway  Před 7 měsíci +2

      It might be, but the headstock, position markers, cutaway and F holes are notably different. reverb.com/item/34484912 One "Antoria" is the only oen I could find that's an exact match.

  • @FunsongsMusicByPeterRahill
    @FunsongsMusicByPeterRahill Před 7 měsíci +3

    217th sub LIKE; 1,539th looky-loo view.

  • @SSRT_JubyDuby8742
    @SSRT_JubyDuby8742 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Like deployed 👍

  • @DE-GEN-ART
    @DE-GEN-ART Před 7 měsíci

    that thing sounds like craplola

  • @andrelapiana3610
    @andrelapiana3610 Před 5 měsíci

    'PromoSM' 😌

  • @jonboy8181
    @jonboy8181 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Really cool looking guitar. I really like the checking on the finish.

    • @jonboy8181
      @jonboy8181 Před 7 měsíci +1

      Being that the bridge is floating and there are some adjustments on it, I bet that intonation could get sorted out.