It's funny that Paul London says don't meet people you grew up watching on TV. I would stay home on Saturday nights to watch him on Velocity, and meeting him was one of my favorite memories of doing videography in the indies. I was helping out a friend of a friend who organized an autograph signing out of state, and Marty The Moth introduced me to him in his hotel room. He seemed more excited to meet me than I did him, and it took all of the maturity I had to not mark the hell out.
I think Jericho is a perfect example of someone sticking around for way too long, and the longer he sticks around, the more of these stories come out. Kind of like Flair.
You either leave early a hero, or you hang around long enough to get a severe injury (Matt Hardy with a severe concussion ) or you see yourself become the villain
Jericho is definitely guilty of being a total mark for himself. If you read his books and what he says in interviews or podcast, it's very obvious he is. Compare that to Steve Austin who came across in his podcast as a down to Earth cat you probably have a beer with at your local dive bar.
@@Sammo212Right. Austin robbed us of a dream match vs Brock Lesnar because he didn’t want to put him over “on RAW”. Even Hulk Hogan put Brock over clean on Smackdown by TKO. This is 2002, when the Austin vs Hogan dream match was right there for the taking. Yet everybody blamed Hogan that it didn’t happen, as always. Meanwhile Hogan put over Rock, Undertaker, Angle and Lesnar in just 2002 alone.
@@Sammo212 If you look at how Austin was being booked in 2002 he was clearly being phased out into the mid card compared to The Rock, Taker, HHH and Hogan. His neck injuries were hurting him and he wasn't wrong that booking that match on Raw with Brock was stupid and should have been on PPV. Same with Hogan, those are big matches that should be on PPVs, the creative was getting worse but his neck and alcohol issues made him throw a tantrum. Keep in mind that since 1998 he had been booked as a top guy for years and was champion for most of 2001 so his ego was hit a bit, add to that he was working while hurt for his main event run as he never really recovered from the Owen Hart botch. He acted unprofessionally but Vince and co really should have managed that situation better.
are we seriously going to give Flair a pass on this. Flair is the 70s version of Hogan. Jericho put over Wade Barret when Cena didn't want to, Bray Wyatt, Ricky Starks KO, list goes on and on. My only complaint about Jericho is that he whined about Chyna when the locker room didn't want her. Then Eddie had to take over Jerichos gimmick but Eddie made it work. Flair and Hogan are two sides to the same coin. It's just that Hogan came out in the 80s when wrestling got mainstream and it got to him. @@elmalifico3708
it sounds like the wrestling business is a tough game because on one hand you need to have belief in yourself and be a "mark" for yourself and be self serving but also you need to be part of the team and work for the benefit of your company and other workers,this makes for an interesting balance as at what point does the scale tip too far in either direction? love him or hate him you cant say he hasnt been one of the most successful wrestlers of arguably all time! it occurs to me that very few of the top stars get through their careers being universally loved by their co-workers,i suppose it boils down to can you live with yourself and the choices you made and was it worth it
@@jamesb1988 but like i said at what point are you too far either way? The business is individual as you want to be the star or the top draw,that kind of environment leads to a lot of hate and backstabbing,so like i said I think it's about being able to live with the choices you made,obviously if jericho has done something inappropriate with her then that is a totally different scenario
@@unknowniam121how good was Jericho in 2000 😢 I remember the buzz around him once he won the IC title at royal rumble 2000 as a newly turned face. A heel in a lame feud with Chyna just a month before, and then just suddenly found liftoff. A mid-card of Jericho, Angle, Benoit 😅
He literally went on his podcast and admited he cried to Vince McMahon about putting Fandango over at Wrestlemania. He did not want to do it, Undertaker had to convince him to do so.
@@98luisornelasAnd Owens beating Jericho at Mania 33 didn’t mean anything because at the VERY NEXT PPV, Jericho not only beat KO clean but did it by submission, and I’ve heard rumors that Jericho lobbied for that to happen and Vince acquiesced. So at the end, it did absolutely nothing for Kevin Owens.
@@johnselwitz5362 I'll give you a point there, but still over time people only remember Manias, Rumbles, Series, and Summerslams over the smaller ppv's. So I would argue that picking up the US title at WM33 is a larger rub.
@@98luisornelas I see then. That aside I guess he had reason considering Fandango's trajectory afterwards. Cena put over Theory last WM. WWE better make use of that and not Fandango it.
@@Sacrilege83 And I totally get what you’re saying, that’s a good point but the reason why that sticks out in my mind is because Owens vs. Jericho was such a good feud at first and then completely fell flat at the end. Some of that is not their fault, it’s Vince and his love affair with 50/50 booking, but I remember Owens beat Y2J at Mania for the US title, lost it back to Jericho at the very next PPV, and then TWO DAYS later, Owens won the title back on Smackdown and then Jericho was literally gone from the company after that, making swapping the titles back and forth completely pointless. He made a brief appearance in 2018 at the Greatest Royal Rumble but then that was it, he went to Japan and then AEW. That feud did nothing for Owens. How much more meaningful would it have been for Kevin’s career if, at Wrestlemania, KO vs. Y2J is billed as a retirement match, Owens beats Jericho clean and he can now claim that he is the man who ran a legend like Chris Jericho out of WWE for good? He’s leaving the company anyway to tour with Fozzy, so why not do the honors for someone that the company was clearly high on and could’ve used a shot in the arm like that? Jericho was an elder statesman and someone very well respected in that locker room, so he had enough pull to convince McMahon to do something like that but he chose not to.
@@misterkrogan8837are u serious wasn't Giselle just walking by or something and rick started screaming at him calling him a freak that needs to leave, if that's something u admire in a person an see nothing wrong with your mentally ill
I personally don't try to bang women i meet at the work place , if he is so brazen & forward then it's highly likely not the first time or a one off occurrence. Dude is married , it's just classless.
Remember the time Jericho cried about a couple of WWE women wrestlers making fun of him, and he low-key threatened he'd put a bad word in for Tony Khan if they ever wanted to go to AEW...
@@marywhelan1799 It was around the time he took that funny crash-pad bump off the cage a year or two ago. Shotzi Blackheart was one of the women he got salty with. Trying to pinpoint the exact timeline but definitely remember it being a thing.
Because many veteran wrestlers act like arrogant children who don't want to see others succeed. That's the business for you. Whether Paul's telling the truth or not and whether these allegations are true or not, Chris has definitely acted the opposite as he should've to some wrestlers or rookies in the past and has had a handful of backstage fights and other incidents, as they're incidents that have already been reported and confirmed years ago.
I like London but he reminds me of CM Punk when Punk is in his angry phase where he seems to dislike everyone and never seems to admit he may be a shit stirrer too.
I definitely gotta disagree with London. I like London a hell of a lot. And I can't say "Disagree". I can say that his interactions with Jericho is not the way wrestling is now. Maybe AEW may be. Politicing and such. But the WWE is very team minded at the moment. And the environment Paul is describing. I definitely don't see Jericho with that mindset at this point in his career. He's basically put every promising young talent and even guys he really didn't have to put over. He put them over in AEW and made them look strong. He's definitely giving and it's obviously in his contract to do so. And Mox has lately as well. But Jericho more over. Probably most. Especially considering he's definitely a Hall of Famer. And I don't believe he didn't proposition. Maybe he did. However,he didn't force himself,he didn't touch her or molest her in any way. Sure I'm sure it's very scummy especially being a female wrestler and looking up to this man only to find out he's a horny drunk bastard. But that's life.
The obvious opposite would be the later run of Shawn Micheals, my god, he never was a mark for himself, he always put others over even if he wins. He was an endearing character because he always liked to put on quality matches regardless of the outcome, examples being John Cena, Jeff Hardy, The Undertaker, Randy Orton, Edge, Sheltion Benjamin and countless more. Which is so bizzare because Michaels and Jericho had amazing chemistry. And Shawn Micheals still carries that selflessness attitude even when running NXT which is thriving like crazy as of lately.
Might be one of the worst examples since Shawn in his prime was a terrible locker room cancer that got multiple people fired. Someone joked Michaels wouldn’t like giving the sweet chin music if the crowd was small in the 90s house shows, which is ultimate markdom
I only remember Shawn helping one guy out in his second run and that was Edge every one else he would lose too were already made stars and couldn't become any bigger
it's strange to me that Jericho- who's spent most of his WWE career putting others over, catches backlash for wanting to be at the top in AEW. In which he played an enormous part in making famous. He's owed time at the top, he's nearing the end of his career. And the allegations aren't backed my much evidence. People need to get off the MeToo train. Making advancements on a woman isn't illegal. It would make him a bad husband, but still. Let's not get ahead of ourselves. Comparing him to someone like Weinstein is disgusting with the current lack of evidence.
Well this aged poorly. lol. Insinuation of accusations now backtracked and denied lol. 😂😂😂. Man what a toxic teen girl gossip factory wrestling has become.
Does Paul have proof that Jericho had people sign ndas I doubt it lol no one else has accused Jericho of anything and even Kylie never admitted to these claims
He's just talking about how he's had one too many bad experiences with Jericho which leads him to not being surprised if any of these allegations are true. He didn't accuse him of anything.
This makes me sad to hear man, Chris Jericho was literally my favourite of all time😢, he & R. Kelly, it’s sad to see that they’re not the people I hoped they were😔
Is there legit any evidence or anything that hes actually done what he's done. Tho with that being said i dont exactly know the full story of this situation
Currently there is no proof of anything. Just people that don't like Jericho throwing allegations around because they know the mindless internet mob will go after him regardless of having proof or not.
One day on the Cafe we need to get a power ranking of Workers Who Have Heartbroken And Disappointed Paul In Some Way. Starting from Kidman and working downward ig.
Its not illegal but it is pretty creepy/nasty. Jericho was doing somewhat a harvey weinstein would do. She at least wasnt forced. But i can see how it could make her want to leave
@@beardedhippie7337 yeah he was probably like, "hey baby, how would you like to experience the gift that is jericho? Take it in mannnnnn...." As poor Kylie was disgusted and ran.
Bro what I can’t believe ppl are defending this dude yes making pass at someone isn’t illegal! But the problem is he lied and put this girl in a very uncomfortable situation so much that she quit her job.Thats very unprofessional he use his power to get this girl alone just to make a pass at her u should be fired if true no excuses
Fired for hitting on a woman? Whar kind of weak sauce mentality is this? I would agree if there was serious foul play involved. How about we wait for more details to come out before jumping to conclusions.
@@Sacrilege83 It’s no different than onision taking advantage of age of consent laws. What onision did technically wasn’t illegal, but a man in his thirties being with 16 year olds is weird
Rene what about Chris Dickinson accused by Christina Von Erie of being abused when in reality it was revenge from him cheating on her with a Game Stop Manager. Dickinson posted DM’s of her wanting to hook up six years after they broke up cause she was in his area. Why would a woman want to hook up with her abusive ex six years later and also be best friends with Joey Ryan still after his controversy and say those women were lying??
@@richardgrayson5359 cause it is the same type of situation, people are innocent until proving guilty and Dickinson took those two girls to court, and the judge threw it out. There were no charges against him because it was saying there was no proof. She threatened him for years and stopped him and made his life a living hell.
I do think Chris is one of the all-time grades, I don’t know if I have him in my top 10 because there have been so many grates, but I do think he’s one of the best of his generation for sure, but I sadly have heard this from other people that have said that Once he really became a star, he did kind of change. KC o Coner, who worked in the offices at Smoky Mountain Wrestling , which is the first American wrestling company Chris ever worked at in the early 90s said Chris was really cool at the beginning of his career back before he was basically somebody that was still trying to make a name and get respect but it seems like after he got there that he let the fame go to his head. I’m not exactly sure what happened especially with those two but it feels like they were friends back in the smoky mountain days but. Maybe KC ran into them at some point or tried to reach out and Jericho gave him the quote. I’m a big star now.” Treatment. I like Chris and I do feel like if he wants to keep going he can still go but it doesn’t even feel like he’s trying to be a mentor in AEW. It just feels like he’s selling out to the AEW crowd just to be over with them. not that being a mentor over there would work anyway we’ve heard every legend that has ever worked over there say that most of the roster thinks they don’t need any advice because they got to AEW all by themselves, so why should they listen to anybody. But most of them the only reason they got to that company is because the owner is a money mark and he’s employee, about 50 wrestlers that would never be on national television if it wasn’t for that guy not knowing any better.
This is a bunch of malarkey. I’d go as far as to say that Jericho gives back to the business more than most of the top stars that have come and gone in the history of professional wrestling. Did anyone see the way he put over Hobbs last year ? How many times have you seen a star at Jericho’s level out over a guy at Hobbs’ level that strong ?
The thing is even if jericho is "guilty" so to speak all he did was make a move on her its not like he sexually assaulted her so i dont get the whole cancell jericho thing unless theres more to the story
a lot of wrestling fans are miserable anti social weirdo basement dwellers that envy others success and enjoy seeing people brought down by any means necessary.
Because he did that in a workplace environment in which he had significant influence. Certain laws apply in the workplace. Not to mention the AEW's own employment policies.
@@noiserocker the biggest problem jericho has is fans canceling him cus if there was a nda signed obviously there had to be documented writing about what occurred and she can't speak on so however it went down it was legal. And as for fans we all know wrestlers hook up like crazy so its nothing new under the sun
I could definitely see Jericho being that selfish back in the mid 2000s. But honestly he's given so much to AEW. He barely wins. And he not only works every week. But also shows up on other promotions. There's nothing wrong with believing that you're a big a star when you are in fact a big star. Maybe he's something else backstage. But i'm just a wrestling fan that critiques what he sees on the wrestling shows.
@@Erlewyn he’s a good midcard heel, but Main Eventer I never saw what he saw in himself, but hey my favorite wrestler of all time is X-PAC so I know where you’re are coming from🤘🏼
I used to love Jericho in WWE, his podcasts, music etc. But ever since he joined AEW in 2019, he became a joke. Dude is the biggest mark for himself. The entire run AEW run was sooooo forgettable. It truly shows that without Vince, he can't get over at all.
Jericho has nothing to give back. He lost to Fandango at WrestleMania ffs! Name one match he had that’s top 10 or even one thing he did in the ring to make us say “wow!”
No one can make you sign an NDA. I had a former employer who is very well known and offered me a nice deal to sign an NDA. Nope screw that. But I don't buy into rumors. And the last thing is hitting and flirting with someone isn't illegal..
Paul has no loyalty to anything. He always has these weird takes on stuff. Don’t get me wrong, I Paul and Kendrick are one of the most underrated tag teams of all time. There stuff is much better than what some of the guys at the top are doing today in the ring. Not to say Paul wrong here. Though over the years he’s made me laugh and he’s makes me question where he’s coming from.
Yeah , i he's def just a guy just speaking out of his aaa and pivots his take depending on whats hot. the way he was trying to give life advise to Kendrick when he's just as bad. In many ways, wrestlers always project.
Jericho who has jobbed 95 percent of his WWE career was selfish? Say what you want about AEW Old Jericho. But WWE Jericho jobbed all the time and made a fool out of himself
@@noneedtoknow-yv2tu but he was jobbing all his career besides AEW. He was a former champion he lost clean to a no name Cena, Kofi, JTG, Benjamin before he was anything, a debuting Jobber Fandango and he even jobbed to Chyna and I think Roaddog
@@noneedtoknow-yv2tu it dont matter. He had stroke to say no to alot of jobs. He even jobbed to Omega on NJPW..... 99 percent of wrestlers dont Book their own matches. But guys like Foley, Sting and Jericho all jobbed way more than they should of and didnt use their postion to stay on top of the card and didnt refuse to job ( even when they should of) to some lower level talent. Jericho in AEW maybe a different story but not in WWE.
@@MrCodystewie he got handed the tag team championships with edge in 2010s and the world championship the first undisputed championship who beat rock and Austin in the same night y2nda trust me seeing 40 year old y2nda not put over people would be the same as trips jobbing everyone for his ego you'd still complain
Feldman's trying to oust peado's in Hollywood. Nothing wrong with that, except most of the celebs that were on peado Island are "darlings", liberal ones at that.
Chris Jericho held back and killed the pushes of Santana and Ortiz in AEW. That's a very recent perfect example of him literally not giving back the spotlight for younger talent to shine.
One thing I don’t respect about pro wrestling fans is that they’re too scared of not being in the group with the popular opinion, so much so that they’re not willing to ask simple questions about life ruining ALLEGATIONS .. especially when the victim is a woman .. typical incel neckbeard behavior.. I’m a pro wrestling fan for life but I never want to be lumped in with these type of people
Take a look at Jericho's stables. Only one member besides Jericho ever really went anywhere. Sammy Guevara, while brief, had some success on his own. But everyone else is in the same spot they were in before the stable.
Didn't Paul London steal his friend Matt Hardy's girl... after that already happened to Matt Hardy publicly once? Yeah, he definitely has a place to be judging other people...
You can trash guys like Hogan & Shawn Michaels all you want, but at least there never was a Hero Hogan or Heart Break Kollective faction. And before anyone chimes in, no, Immortal is not the same as having your name being praised as the name of the faction.
Funny I’ve been watching all these channels for months and years, but anything about this subject hasn’t been popping up in my feed. I guess maybe the topic affecting the algorithm?
Shining talents my ass xD Jericho is still way more talented than "new talents" in his 50's lmao. Noone cares about boring noname newbies with 0 charisma.
People often say Chris Jericho and HBK are similar in many ways. Well Chris Jericho right now has become like HBK during his Kliq douche years. A bit too late to be like that. Also there HAS to be a reason for Kylie Rae to leave AEW while it was red hot and everybody loved her. Something happened for sure.
I think Chris and fozzy should just go on vacation for awhile. And he needs to lay off of the bubbly because he's only getting into trouble when he drinks. Ten years ago Jericho was a future Hall of famer now his future is as bright as midnight.
I always felt like Jericho was a asshole and someone that thought he was better than he was!!! Definitely hope they expose him if the allegations are true.
I'm a Christian and I have always rooted for Christian athletes like David Robinson, Shane Doan and Chris Jericho. I was surprised and curious by the words of another Christian wrestler, Superstar Billy Graham. He had some really harsh words to say about Chris Jericho and I was wondering if anyone knew what that was all about. Remember, we're all sinners, nobody is perfect and we shouldn't write people off as "bad people" as if we're not all beyond redemption, there is always hope for everyone who puts their faith on Jesus Christ, God bless.
Believe women because Jericho was mean to me. My instinct is to not believe with Enzo being one among many examples of them lying & knowing there will be no consequences. Plus I heard all he did was try to smash & she denied him, end of story. That's not SA.
Ehh Jericho is usted to ladies giving it to him no problem, the thing is he got old, and he tries to hookup with a girls that voyls be his daughter and since he is out of shape no and balding it didnt work. But back in the day he was doing Kelly Kelly and others. Sucks but it is what it is dude is too old now for that kind of hook up not being creppy.
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It's funny that Paul London says don't meet people you grew up watching on TV. I would stay home on Saturday nights to watch him on Velocity, and meeting him was one of my favorite memories of doing videography in the indies. I was helping out a friend of a friend who organized an autograph signing out of state, and Marty The Moth introduced me to him in his hotel room. He seemed more excited to meet me than I did him, and it took all of the maturity I had to not mark the hell out.
I think Jericho is a perfect example of someone sticking around for way too long, and the longer he sticks around, the more of these stories come out. Kind of like Flair.
You either leave early a hero, or you hang around long enough to get a severe injury (Matt Hardy with a severe concussion ) or you see yourself become the villain
Or Hulk Hogan.
Oh shut up with that corny bs. @@sawtooth808
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@timjohnson2235 Stop. Read SOMETHING about politics and then try again. You don't understand the concept, clearly.
Jericho is definitely guilty of being a total mark for himself. If you read his books and what he says in interviews or podcast, it's very obvious he is. Compare that to Steve Austin who came across in his podcast as a down to Earth cat you probably have a beer with at your local dive bar.
I just commented similar , i found his books unbearably brutal to get through. The Narcissism trilogy i call em.
That being WELL after Austin "took his ball and went home" because he was such a mark for himself.
In interviews maybe, but in his first book especially he doesn't take himself seriously and I'd still consider it the best wrestling book.
@@Sammo212Right. Austin robbed us of a dream match vs Brock Lesnar because he didn’t want to put him over “on RAW”. Even Hulk Hogan put Brock over clean on Smackdown by TKO. This is 2002, when the Austin vs Hogan dream match was right there for the taking. Yet everybody blamed Hogan that it didn’t happen, as always. Meanwhile Hogan put over Rock, Undertaker, Angle and Lesnar in just 2002 alone.
@@Sammo212 If you look at how Austin was being booked in 2002 he was clearly being phased out into the mid card compared to The Rock, Taker, HHH and Hogan. His neck injuries were hurting him and he wasn't wrong that booking that match on Raw with Brock was stupid and should have been on PPV. Same with Hogan, those are big matches that should be on PPVs, the creative was getting worse but his neck and alcohol issues made him throw a tantrum.
Keep in mind that since 1998 he had been booked as a top guy for years and was champion for most of 2001 so his ego was hit a bit, add to that he was working while hurt for his main event run as he never really recovered from the Owen Hart botch. He acted unprofessionally but Vince and co really should have managed that situation better.
Paul London comes across as sincere and transparent.
Ric flair has his faults but no one can accuse him of not giving back to the business.
For as much as Bret Hart clowns on Flair, Ric always did business and always put Bret over.
are we seriously going to give Flair a pass on this. Flair is the 70s version of Hogan.
Jericho put over Wade Barret when Cena didn't want to, Bray Wyatt, Ricky Starks KO, list goes on and on.
My only complaint about Jericho is that he whined about Chyna when the locker room didn't want her. Then Eddie had to take over Jerichos gimmick but Eddie made it work.
Flair and Hogan are two sides to the same coin. It's just that Hogan came out in the 80s when wrestling got mainstream and it got to him.
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I had the pleasure of training with Paul London at a seminar here in the UK and he was amazing. Really eye opening and a great experience.
it sounds like the wrestling business is a tough game because on one hand you need to have belief in yourself and be a "mark" for yourself and be self serving but also you need to be part of the team and work for the benefit of your company and other workers,this makes for an interesting balance as at what point does the scale tip too far in either direction? love him or hate him you cant say he hasnt been one of the most successful wrestlers of arguably all time! it occurs to me that very few of the top stars get through their careers being universally loved by their co-workers,i suppose it boils down to can you live with yourself and the choices you made and was it worth it
It's the difference between having a healthy amount of self confidence vs. an excessive level of arrogance/ego.
@@jamesb1988 but like i said at what point are you too far either way? The business is individual as you want to be the star or the top draw,that kind of environment leads to a lot of hate and backstabbing,so like i said I think it's about being able to live with the choices you made,obviously if jericho has done something inappropriate with her then that is a totally different scenario
Jericho is a parody of himself right now... 😂😂
2000 Jericho would have buried 2020 Jericho in a shoot
@@unknowniam121 1995 Chris Jericho (the one in WCW when he was a baby face) would have slapped the taste out of 2023 Chris Jericho
@@unknowniam121how good was Jericho in 2000 😢 I remember the buzz around him once he won the IC title at royal rumble 2000 as a newly turned face. A heel in a lame feud with Chyna just a month before, and then just suddenly found liftoff.
A mid-card of Jericho, Angle, Benoit 😅
Didn't Chris Jericho put over some newcomers in the 2010's like Fandango, Kevin Owens at Mania 33 or am I misremembering?
He literally went on his podcast and admited he cried to Vince McMahon about putting Fandango over at Wrestlemania. He did not want to do it, Undertaker had to convince him to do so.
@@98luisornelasAnd Owens beating Jericho at Mania 33 didn’t mean anything because at the VERY NEXT PPV, Jericho not only beat KO clean but did it by submission, and I’ve heard rumors that Jericho lobbied for that to happen and Vince acquiesced. So at the end, it did absolutely nothing for Kevin Owens.
@@johnselwitz5362 I'll give you a point there, but still over time people only remember Manias, Rumbles, Series, and Summerslams over the smaller ppv's. So I would argue that picking up the US title at WM33 is a larger rub.
@@98luisornelas I see then. That aside I guess he had reason considering Fandango's trajectory afterwards.
Cena put over Theory last WM. WWE better make use of that and not Fandango it.
@@Sacrilege83 And I totally get what you’re saying, that’s a good point but the reason why that sticks out in my mind is because Owens vs. Jericho was such a good feud at first and then completely fell flat at the end. Some of that is not their fault, it’s Vince and his love affair with 50/50 booking, but I remember Owens beat Y2J at Mania for the US title, lost it back to Jericho at the very next PPV, and then TWO DAYS later, Owens won the title back on Smackdown and then Jericho was literally gone from the company after that, making swapping the titles back and forth completely pointless. He made a brief appearance in 2018 at the Greatest Royal Rumble but then that was it, he went to Japan and then AEW. That feud did nothing for Owens. How much more meaningful would it have been for Kevin’s career if, at Wrestlemania, KO vs. Y2J is billed as a retirement match, Owens beats Jericho clean and he can now claim that he is the man who ran a legend like Chris Jericho out of WWE for good? He’s leaving the company anyway to tour with Fozzy, so why not do the honors for someone that the company was clearly high on and could’ve used a shot in the arm like that? Jericho was an elder statesman and someone very well respected in that locker room, so he had enough pull to convince McMahon to do something like that but he chose not to.
Making a pass is not illegal. If that was the case we'd all be in jail
paul also said Rick Steiner SHOULD be cancelled for his confrontation with Giselle Shaw. I like Paul but disagree with him
@@animal1nstinct394I agree with that. Just because some mentally ill sicko wants to play pretend doesn't mean we all have to play along with them...
@@animal1nstinct394 It was weird. But generally, dudes get away with anything, so I understand Paul being angry towards those sketchy situations.
@@misterkrogan8837are u serious wasn't Giselle just walking by or something and rick started screaming at him calling him a freak that needs to leave, if that's something u admire in a person an see nothing wrong with your mentally ill
I personally don't try to bang women i meet at the work place , if he is so brazen & forward then it's highly likely not the first time or a one off occurrence. Dude is married , it's just classless.
Went from most respected to most hated in two years
says you. Some still like him, shut up
He’s still respected it’s just some of the Dumb shit he’s Said that last 3 years
Dude hasn’t been good for years all he talks about is wwe like dude that don’t care AEW is trash and their fans are delusional
@@JoeChillton Chris Irvine won't sleep with you for white knighting him.
@@JoeChilltondamn you must be a fan of Epstine too I guess.
Stalk is Jericho
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The man of a 1,000 and 1 different types of NDAs.
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NDA - Never Deny the Ayatollah lest ye be fired
Paul is so right. Jericho leeching all the shining talent.
Jericho in AEW is essentially what Hogan was in WCW. Even if someone beats him clean, Jericho always gets his win back
Remember the time Jericho cried about a couple of WWE women wrestlers making fun of him, and he low-key threatened he'd put a bad word in for Tony Khan if they ever wanted to go to AEW...
When was this?
@@marywhelan1799 It was around the time he took that funny crash-pad bump off the cage a year or two ago. Shotzi Blackheart was one of the women he got salty with. Trying to pinpoint the exact timeline but definitely remember it being a thing.
Shotzi was banned from Collision
@@3DBrawlChannelBlood and Guts falling spot
@@Provos7777 I'd say threatening is a tad worse than making fun
I enjoy Paul's take, but it does seem like he hated everybody.
Most wrestlers are trash people
Because many veteran wrestlers act like arrogant children who don't want to see others succeed. That's the business for you. Whether Paul's telling the truth or not and whether these allegations are true or not, Chris has definitely acted the opposite as he should've to some wrestlers or rookies in the past and has had a handful of backstage fights and other incidents, as they're incidents that have already been reported and confirmed years ago.
You’re talking about grown men who play fight for a living
A lot of these guys are gonna be arrogant bitter assholes
I like London but he reminds me of CM Punk when Punk is in his angry phase where he seems to dislike everyone and never seems to admit he may be a shit stirrer too.
@@michaelhauser6440bingo!
If Jericho lost every match to put over other wrestlers , He would retire.
@@noneedtoknow-yv2tu
he still can perform
and watch his matches in the first 3 years in aew
I definitely gotta disagree with London. I like London a hell of a lot. And I can't say "Disagree". I can say that his interactions with Jericho is not the way wrestling is now. Maybe AEW may be. Politicing and such. But the WWE is very team minded at the moment. And the environment Paul is describing. I definitely don't see Jericho with that mindset at this point in his career. He's basically put every promising young talent and even guys he really didn't have to put over. He put them over in AEW and made them look strong. He's definitely giving and it's obviously in his contract to do so. And Mox has lately as well. But Jericho more over. Probably most. Especially considering he's definitely a Hall of Famer. And I don't believe he didn't proposition. Maybe he did. However,he didn't force himself,he didn't touch her or molest her in any way. Sure I'm sure it's very scummy especially being a female wrestler and looking up to this man only to find out he's a horny drunk bastard. But that's life.
Never meet your heros folks
Except for Kane, Rey Mysterio and Big Show. They're always cool.
@mrmoviemanic1 a friend of mine met big show and said he was a dick. I met taker he was a dick
Welcome to Raw is Jericho!!!
What exactly are the allegations???
I accidentally turned around and bumped shoulders in O'hare Airport with Jericho, and he was on his phone, and he said "move-it fat fuck".
Jericho vs. The Rock at no mercy 2001 was a fantastic match.
It was no Test vs Kane.
The obvious opposite would be the later run of Shawn Micheals, my god, he never was a mark for himself, he always put others over even if he wins.
He was an endearing character because he always liked to put on quality matches regardless of the outcome, examples being John Cena, Jeff Hardy, The Undertaker, Randy Orton, Edge, Sheltion Benjamin and countless more.
Which is so bizzare because Michaels and Jericho had amazing chemistry.
And Shawn Micheals still carries that selflessness attitude even when running NXT which is thriving like crazy as of lately.
Shawn Michaels is one of the biggest pieces of shit in the history of wrestling. Get better heroes fanboy
well it is nice that micheals is selfless now,when in his heyday he got many got guys fired and ruined peoples careers,,,
Might be one of the worst examples since Shawn in his prime was a terrible locker room cancer that got multiple people fired.
Someone joked Michaels wouldn’t like giving the sweet chin music if the crowd was small in the 90s house shows, which is ultimate markdom
I only remember Shawn helping one guy out in his second run and that was Edge every one else he would lose too were already made stars and couldn't become any bigger
90s Shawn and his current version today are day and night in comparison. 😂
it's strange to me that Jericho- who's spent most of his WWE career putting others over, catches backlash for wanting to be at the top in AEW. In which he played an enormous part in making famous. He's owed time at the top, he's nearing the end of his career. And the allegations aren't backed my much evidence. People need to get off the MeToo train. Making advancements on a woman isn't illegal. It would make him a bad husband, but still. Let's not get ahead of ourselves. Comparing him to someone like Weinstein is disgusting with the current lack of evidence.
He literally turned into Mickey Rourke from the wrestler
Which is Ironic.
Where's the proof Jericho made anyone sign an NDA? Where is it? Spreading rumors and gossip about someone you don't like is a bitch move.
Well this aged poorly. lol. Insinuation of accusations now backtracked and denied lol. 😂😂😂. Man what a toxic teen girl gossip factory wrestling has become.
Talk about being bitter, because your hero didn't put you over because your hero didn't put you over.
Does Paul have proof that Jericho had people sign ndas I doubt it lol no one else has accused Jericho of anything and even Kylie never admitted to these claims
He's just talking about how he's had one too many bad experiences with Jericho which leads him to not being surprised if any of these allegations are true. He didn't accuse him of anything.
Jericho is literally his own biggest fan
This makes me sad to hear man, Chris Jericho was literally my favourite of all time😢, he & R. Kelly, it’s sad to see that they’re not the people I hoped they were😔
Is there legit any evidence or anything that hes actually done what he's done. Tho with that being said i dont exactly know the full story of this situation
Well the drunken NDAs tweets don’t help
Currently there is no proof of anything. Just people that don't like Jericho throwing allegations around because they know the mindless internet mob will go after him regardless of having proof or not.
Jesus, lay it in Paul. You're right though.
Paul is a G
Paul is a classic OG. I remember his days,he put in work
Nothing will happen ..nothing ever does
One day on the Cafe we need to get a power ranking of Workers Who Have Heartbroken And Disappointed Paul In Some Way. Starting from Kidman and working downward ig.
Paul hates everyone
Its not illegal but it is pretty creepy/nasty. Jericho was doing somewhat a harvey weinstein would do. She at least wasnt forced. But i can see how it could make her want to leave
R u stupid
Exactly ppl are acting like they had mutual flirting going on no he literally use his power to get her alone and made a move that creepy asf
@@beardedhippie7337 yeah he was probably like, "hey baby, how would you like to experience the gift that is jericho? Take it in mannnnnn...."
As poor Kylie was disgusted and ran.
The IWC love to parrot stuff dont they "MuH WeInStEiN!"
@@beardedhippie7337what happened ? What did jericho do?
Bro what I can’t believe ppl are defending this dude yes making pass at someone isn’t illegal!
But the problem is he lied and put this girl in a very uncomfortable situation so much that she quit her job.Thats very unprofessional he use his power to get this girl alone just to make a pass at her u should be fired if true no excuses
Thank you for saying it
Fired for hitting on a woman? Whar kind of weak sauce mentality is this? I would agree if there was serious foul play involved. How about we wait for more details to come out before jumping to conclusions.
What are you dude. Someone who jumps to conclusions. Wait for the facts
@@Sacrilege83
It’s no different than onision taking advantage of age of consent laws. What onision did technically wasn’t illegal, but a man in his thirties being with 16 year olds is weird
Source: Trust me bro
Paul looking like year 1 AEW CM Punk lol. Good show guys,
Never meet your heroes. If you do, keep it under 5 minutes
Mad respect to London, keeps it real everytime. Badass shit.
Rene what about Chris Dickinson accused by Christina Von Erie of being abused when in reality it was revenge from him cheating on her with a Game Stop Manager. Dickinson posted DM’s of her wanting to hook up six years after they broke up cause she was in his area. Why would a woman want to hook up with her abusive ex six years later and also be best friends with Joey Ryan still after his controversy and say those women were lying??
Is that why Chris quit wrestling?
What does that have to do with Jericho?
@@richardgrayson5359 Because this means he might be innocent, you know, women be lyin' right? :|
@@richardgrayson5359 cause it is the same type of situation, people are innocent until proving guilty and Dickinson took those two girls to court, and the judge threw it out. There were no charges against him because it was saying there was no proof. She threatened him for years and stopped him and made his life a living hell.
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I do think Chris is one of the all-time grades, I don’t know if I have him in my top 10 because there have been so many grates, but I do think he’s one of the best of his generation for sure, but I sadly have heard this from other people that have said that Once he really became a star, he did kind of change. KC o Coner, who worked in the offices at Smoky Mountain Wrestling , which is the first American wrestling company Chris ever worked at in the early 90s said Chris was really cool at the beginning of his career back before he was basically somebody that was still trying to make a name and get respect but it seems like after he got there that he let the fame go to his head. I’m not exactly sure what happened especially with those two but it feels like they were friends back in the smoky mountain days but. Maybe KC ran into them at some point or tried to reach out and Jericho gave him the quote. I’m a big star now.” Treatment.
I like Chris and I do feel like if he wants to keep going he can still go but it doesn’t even feel like he’s trying to be a mentor in AEW. It just feels like he’s selling out to the AEW crowd just to be over with them. not that being a mentor over there would work anyway we’ve heard every legend that has ever worked over there say that most of the roster thinks they don’t need any advice because they got to AEW all by themselves, so why should they listen to anybody. But most of them the only reason they got to that company is because the owner is a money mark and he’s employee, about 50 wrestlers that would never be on national television if it wasn’t for that guy not knowing any better.
Ric Flair is the exact same way.
This is a bunch of malarkey. I’d go as far as to say that Jericho gives back to the business more than most of the top stars that have come and gone in the history of professional wrestling. Did anyone see the way he put over Hobbs last year ? How many times have you seen a star at Jericho’s level out over a guy at Hobbs’ level that strong ?
I heard the same thing in like 98. I don’t know the guy but the way it was told to me it sounded true and I was a big fan.
Alcoholism is Jericho
The thing is even if jericho is "guilty" so to speak all he did was make a move on her its not like he sexually assaulted her so i dont get the whole cancell jericho thing unless theres more to the story
a lot of wrestling fans are miserable anti social weirdo basement dwellers that envy others success and enjoy seeing people brought down by any means necessary.
Because he did that in a workplace environment in which he had significant influence. Certain laws apply in the workplace. Not to mention the AEW's own employment policies.
@@noiserocker the biggest problem jericho has is fans canceling him cus if there was a nda signed obviously there had to be documented writing about what occurred and she can't speak on so however it went down it was legal. And as for fans we all know wrestlers hook up like crazy so its nothing new under the sun
@@noiserockerit’s sexual harassment which is inappropriate and inpro
@@noiserocker people hit on each-other at the workplace everyday. pretty normal behavior. go outside for once.
What allegations?
The Jericho Allegations Society.
I could definitely see Jericho being that selfish back in the mid 2000s. But honestly he's given so much to AEW. He barely wins. And he not only works every week. But also shows up on other promotions. There's nothing wrong with believing that you're a big a star when you are in fact a big star.
Maybe he's something else backstage. But i'm just a wrestling fan that critiques what he sees on the wrestling shows.
Yeah but if you just look at what he's done on those wrestling shows for the past few years all you can see is awful. He's fμ©king horrendous bro. He's a bloated wanna be rockstar who thinks every thing he does is spectacular. He's literally said if you don't like the great matches he's been having that you're not a real wrestling fan and you have no soul. He seriously fμ©king said that. Seriously.
He sometimes loses but the booking makes it null. He sucks the life out of any wrestler he works with.
@@eiephantsagree. He brought Daniel Garcia and Ricky Stark’s momentum to a screeching halt.
His behavior is another story like the tweets of tony
I still don’t understand the logic of Jericho not putting AJ Styles over in his first big wwe feud at Wrestlemania 32
Not everyone wins their first big PPV Jericho put a lot of people over at Wrestlemania and everyone knew AJ was going to be a big star anyways
jericho is the modern day hulk hogan
Not y2j who said Chyna was terrible
Who’s the wrestler you dislike the most? I personally have never liked Jeff Jarrett, and that’s who Jericho has become.
When I was watching WCW as a teen and he was the leader of nWo 2000, Jarrett was my favorite wrestler. I think I was the only one in the world 😅
@@Erlewyn he’s a good midcard heel, but Main Eventer I never saw what he saw in himself, but hey my favorite wrestler of all time is X-PAC so I know where you’re are coming from🤘🏼
I used to love Jericho in WWE, his podcasts, music etc. But ever since he joined AEW in 2019, he became a joke. Dude is the biggest mark for himself. The entire run AEW run was sooooo forgettable. It truly shows that without Vince, he can't get over at all.
Just hatin lol Jericho had had some great storylines and actually loses to younger talent to put them over
I mean he was over in ECW and WCW before he ever stepped foot in WWE
Jericho has nothing to give back. He lost to Fandango at WrestleMania ffs! Name one match he had that’s top 10 or even one thing he did in the ring to make us say “wow!”
No one can make you sign an NDA. I had a former employer who is very well known and offered me a nice deal to sign an NDA. Nope screw that. But I don't buy into rumors. And the last thing is hitting and flirting with someone isn't illegal..
Yeah it's not illegal to flirt and shit but supposedly it was much more than hitting on or flirting man
Where can i listen to the show they are no longer on spotify
Paul has no loyalty to anything. He always has these weird takes on stuff. Don’t get me wrong, I Paul and Kendrick are one of the most underrated tag teams of all time. There stuff is much better than what some of the guys at the top are doing today in the ring. Not to say Paul wrong here. Though over the years he’s made me laugh and he’s makes me question where he’s coming from.
Yeah , i he's def just a guy just speaking out of his aaa and pivots his take depending on whats hot.
the way he was trying to give life advise to Kendrick when he's just as bad. In many ways, wrestlers always project.
"Don't be a mark for yourself." Bret Hart: Ya know, there's this guy named Goldberg...
In his first book he tells a story about coming up to Chritopher Lloyd and screaming 88 GIGAWATTS!
That told me all I needed to know.
Jericho who has jobbed 95 percent of his WWE career was selfish? Say what you want about AEW Old Jericho. But WWE Jericho jobbed all the time and made a fool out of himself
He was made to by trips, now y2nda got creative control
@@noneedtoknow-yv2tu but he was jobbing all his career besides AEW. He was a former champion he lost clean to a no name Cena, Kofi, JTG, Benjamin before he was anything, a debuting Jobber Fandango and he even jobbed to Chyna and I think Roaddog
@@MrCodystewie you do understand Jericho never booked anything in WWE right?
@@noneedtoknow-yv2tu it dont matter. He had stroke to say no to alot of jobs. He even jobbed to Omega on NJPW..... 99 percent of wrestlers dont Book their own matches. But guys like Foley, Sting and Jericho all jobbed way more than they should of and didnt use their postion to stay on top of the card and didnt refuse to job ( even when they should of) to some lower level talent. Jericho in AEW maybe a different story but not in WWE.
@@MrCodystewie he got handed the tag team championships with edge in 2010s and the world championship the first undisputed championship who beat rock and Austin in the same night y2nda trust me seeing 40 year old y2nda not put over people would be the same as trips jobbing everyone for his ego you'd still complain
Jericho is the Corey Feldman of pro wrestling.
What's wrong with Corey Feldman? 👀
Feldman's trying to oust peado's in Hollywood. Nothing wrong with that, except most of the celebs that were on peado Island are "darlings", liberal ones at that.
Exactly. What's wrong with him?
Damn sad i heard how good and nice he was
Chris Jericho held back and killed the pushes of Santana and Ortiz in AEW. That's a very recent perfect example of him literally not giving back the spotlight for younger talent to shine.
What exactly is going on with him?
One thing I don’t respect about pro wrestling fans is that they’re too scared of not being in the group with the popular opinion, so much so that they’re not willing to ask simple questions about life ruining ALLEGATIONS .. especially when the victim is a woman .. typical incel neckbeard behavior.. I’m a pro wrestling fan for life but I never want to be lumped in with these type of people
Weird seeing Paul London age because he is the same age as me, I think we have about the exact same amount of grey hairs hahahaha
Met him in Manchester and he said some stuff then tbf and that was wwe times
I’ve kinda always got that feeling about Jericho… just didn’t seem legit
Take a look at Jericho's stables. Only one member besides Jericho ever really went anywhere. Sammy Guevara, while brief, had some success on his own. But everyone else is in the same spot they were in before the stable.
Didn't Paul London steal his friend Matt Hardy's girl... after that already happened to Matt Hardy publicly once? Yeah, he definitely has a place to be judging other people...
So basically this means we’re gonna cancel Chris Jericho now ?
Nahhh
You can trash guys like Hogan & Shawn Michaels all you want, but at least there never was a Hero Hogan or Heart Break Kollective faction.
And before anyone chimes in, no, Immortal is not the same as having your name being praised as the name of the faction.
I'm sure if you were a "Rob guy" (RVD) you despised Jericho. RVD hated him and tells a few stories about how jealous he was of RVD taking his spot
Funny I’ve been watching all these channels for months and years, but anything about this subject hasn’t been popping up in my feed. I guess maybe the topic affecting the algorithm?
Shining talents my ass xD Jericho is still way more talented than "new talents" in his 50's lmao. Noone cares about boring noname newbies with 0 charisma.
I just don't see jerolicho doing that, but that's the thing about liars and deceit. It can be too good. Canadians are never all good.
Chris Jericho is no legend, that term gets applied far too freely. Bruno Samartino was a legend.
People often say Chris Jericho and HBK are similar in many ways. Well Chris Jericho right now has become like HBK during his Kliq douche years. A bit too late to be like that. Also there HAS to be a reason for Kylie Rae to leave AEW while it was red hot and everybody loved her. Something happened for sure.
a fan of prime jericho in the ring, but fuck that guy if those allegations are true.
p/s. paul london, what a legend!
Reminds me of Mel Tucker at Michigan State
Tbh yeah a main event star shouldn't need assistance eliminating someone. Jericho was right on that one lol. But this Kylie Ray stuff is interesting
I think Chris and fozzy should just go on vacation for awhile. And he needs to lay off of the bubbly because he's only getting into trouble when he drinks. Ten years ago Jericho was a future Hall of famer now his future is as bright as midnight.
I live in London Kentucky. We f. With London
Paul spoke well. ❤
On a side note: Paul looks like what CM Punk would look like if Punk smoked weed. 😂
I always felt like Jericho was a asshole and someone that thought he was better than he was!!! Definitely hope they expose him if the allegations are true.
No wonder Jericho loves AEW so much. Big fish in a small pond. Such an EGO.
Who are any of these guys?
Paul London is a former WWE wrestler. Cruiserweight champion.
Should have retired after the list
I'm a Christian and I have always rooted for Christian athletes like David Robinson, Shane Doan and Chris Jericho. I was surprised and curious by the words of another Christian wrestler, Superstar Billy Graham. He had some really harsh words to say about Chris Jericho and I was wondering if anyone knew what that was all about. Remember, we're all sinners, nobody is perfect and we shouldn't write people off as "bad people" as if we're not all beyond redemption, there is always hope for everyone who puts their faith on Jesus Christ, God bless.
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Believe women because Jericho was mean to me.
My instinct is to not believe with Enzo being one among many examples of them lying & knowing there will be no consequences. Plus I heard all he did was try to smash & she denied him, end of story. That's not SA.
You know there’s more creepy guys out there than women 'lying' right?
@@al112v4get a grip
Ehh Jericho is usted to ladies giving it to him no problem, the thing is he got old, and he tries to hookup with a girls that voyls be his daughter and since he is out of shape no and balding it didnt work. But back in the day he was doing Kelly Kelly and others. Sucks but it is what it is dude is too old now for that kind of hook up not being creppy.