Honestly I just scoop in Diamond. Every match takes too long. I have to watch them combo for 5 min, then I draw and then watch them combo on my turn for 5 more mins.
@@hahathatsgreat2 I don’t care how good my bitchii despia hand is, when someone takes more than 1-2 mins in my turn I quit 😂 that’s why I stuck at purple 5 😂😂
Here in OCG if we're using branded despia, we side necroworld banshee and zombie world. We'll send banshee and albaz from branded fusion. Resolve everything that needs to resolve then quick effect banshee to call the zombie world. After that they just gonna scoop.
@@grovesy333 better have the answer to stop the fusion. In the TCG, flunder will outright scoop 90+% of the time if albaz fusion resolves. 1 card likely leads to dragoon, zombie world, set branded in red, and possibly DPE on top of it all. Barring a dark ruler to turn dragoon and all off...still gotta deal with branded into chimera to pop 3, draw 3, search a bunch, plus whatever is still set or left in their hand.
13:00 Droplets is also sketchy because if you send 2 to try and negate Empen and Statue, they can chain the quick play to banish Empen. This will “Fizzle” Droplets. Got a guy at a 3v3 with this
That depends on what they send as cost if they sent a spell then that scenario that interaction woudlnt happened. But thats just a do they have it kind of situation.
@@christianlei2519 all the more reason Chalice is better than Droplets in this MU. Droplets becomes usable only as a 3 card combo if they don’t have Shifter. Sounds rough
Save the droplet for the Raiza or the Empen(or the barrier statue depending on the situation) as those are the actual cards that disrupt your plays whereas the smaller birds are just facilitators to get to that end point
How can one find ppg event listing? Or any other events that are not listed on the konami website. My work schedule has been keeping me from being able to go to most of the events, and any help would be much appreciated.
I'm sorry but i can't catch on the veiler part. Lets say my opp plays any floowendereeze, extra nomal, then tribute summon on empen. There goes chain link 1 on enpem then chain link 2 on those tributed floowendereeze from banish. My question is, can i effect veiler on the empen since its the only effect that on the field? Thanks (sorry, i'm quite new in here)
I think 2 Ultimate Conductor Tyranno could help. Summon the first Tyranno in defense to flip all opponent's monsters face down, then summon the second Tyranno to destroy them all, now they had to go to the GY instead of being banished.
Have actually considred playing more of the trap because if they droll you and/or lancea on your turn you just set the trap and pass. And as long as you have a small bird to extend you can play on their turn and it can also dodge velier because now its their turn.
Honestly I really hope this deck hits it, very annoying to play against, it is so consistent now with the new quick play, it’s been topping a lot and I’m surprised nobody is talking about how powerful it is
Just summon Geomathmech Final Sigma :v. But for real, I play mathmech and in most matches i had against Floowandereeze they dont have an out to unaffected monsters with high attack. I always choose to go first against them just to summon GFS as soon as posible and sometimes even under shifter i get to summon it and after that they just scoop.
Going 1st Gozen is also extremely good as soon as they NS Robina they are locked into water. All their big birds and good monsters are Wind. Also Torrential Tribute is good as well as it can clear their board so they can't tribute summon into Empen.
@@MSTTV 🤷♂️ idk anytime I go first vs them with Gozen it usually goes through maybe they just literally never have had it bc your right that would play around it. Didnt think of that.
@@MSTTV Wait, I think you can still lock em out with Gozen if you flip after they NS Eglen. So they have to send either Robina or Eglen to gy and either way they dont have enough to ns the Empen unless they also had either their one of Stri or Toucan in hand.
Honestly i play lich, i side in 3 crossout and 1 of their trap. Its better than twin, cosmic, evenly, lighting storm. Going 2nd i basically stop their trap so they cant play on my turn and send my traps back via monarch Going 1st i just side in the 3 crossout 1 twin twister along with my 3 judgement so they dont smack my floodgates
@@tombrakey6022 yeah. I love the deck but that’s why I stopped playing it because I hate the mirror match. Maybe when the deck dies down a little, I’ll return to it.
@@sanauj15 I’ve been thinking about missing floowandereeze with some mirror archetype cards just for that match... let me tell you, the chain links happening from both players robins was a clusterfuck
But what makes you think they summon all their monsters at once? .... If you lightning storm monsters. FS ROBINA, Summon - barrier statue, then... Use trap summon eglen and tribute both for raiza or apex ..
flundereeze was free tendies this format but people are finally learning to respect it and side for it. droll ogre veiler are all turned off by shifter. As a flunder player I can say that gamma is the best way to shut things down. Lightning storm is also devastating because you can't normal summon in def obviously so lightning storm is especially effective against flunder. Twin twister is the other big one. Using it in standby is pretty devastating to flunder boards. Most decks are siding judgement now as a counter to the counter.
Gotna irrelevant question.... about artifact ignition. Card Text If you have an "Artifact" monster in your Deck: Target 1 Spell/Trap on the field; destroy that targe Some cards state face up... so if the card is face down can it hit it.... like if it's a artifact monster? Never used the artifact cards outside lancia. Figured great way to be a pain if I can do that Thanks in advance
Step 1: find your opponent home address Step 2: get a lead pipe Step 3: knock your opponent door when he's busy on his turn Step 4: as soon as he opens whip that lead pipe straight into his teeth Step 5: profit???
Because... They don't actually need to put everything on board immediately.. A smart player will hold some of the summons in the trap so if you LS the back they chain the trap, if you LS the front they use the trap and rebuild the whole board...
So Ash is bad even though they add cards from to to hand a TON? I am just curious to see someone else’s perspective on why it’s not one of the better hand traps?
i think the most annoying is the field spell. i mean, i dont care what they do and what they have honestly, we can play around it. but that field spell, makes our turn, become their turn.
@@MSTTV i meant it like raigeky or LS i think LS is better since you can hit the back row and the front row (compleatly since they are all in atk position)... well if you get it to going second... then again if you didn't you probably would get Raiza loop either way.
@@cloudstrifer1116 lightning storm requires you to have no face up cards You're going to have face up cards when they use their resources more than likely
As a Floow player, the only thing I will say about the Solemn traps is this. Yes they are good since we can't respond to them, but if we know you play them, a good player will know how to chain block you so we resolve the effect we want. True, this may not always be an option for us, but you should consider the chain blocking ability the deck has
@@MSTTV to be fair you did say Strike is good and that one can’t hit any of the summons, while also getting chainblocked. Honestly just seems like you forgot Strike is only special summons. Warning and Judgement still good tho
the safest way is to negate the small birds, mark my words. You wanna negate Empen? make sure floo player has no map played at all or else you are getting punished in your turn. Best picks for handtraps : Ash, Droll and that's it. Lancea? i usually just crash through lancea even if it means i lost 2 small birds in the graveyard
@@GuitarBloodlines coming from a floo player here, you need to check the banish pile. Usually they have only one banished bird unless advent or gold sarc is used, it's still good to use ash but you better know the matchup well or just use imperm/veiler instead
This is the first deck in a long time I have truly despised playing against.
It’s basically true draco 2.0 ..
How is this deck any worse than Borreload with 3 negates + Apollo with 3 negates + Dragite + Buster lock + IP Masquerena?
@@jamesbrincefield9879 One is more likely to get screwed by a single DShifter than to meet that kind of field
It should be banned.
@@jamesbrincefield9879 In Master Duel, at least you can Maxx C it.
Against Floo? Not even.
Who else is here because they just added floowondereeze to master duel?
my friend is playing floo
@@g1yugioh640 Im sick with the floo 🤒
Honestly I just scoop in Diamond. Every match takes too long. I have to watch them combo for 5 min, then I draw and then watch them combo on my turn for 5 more mins.
@@hahathatsgreat2 I don’t care how good my bitchii despia hand is, when someone takes more than 1-2 mins in my turn I quit 😂 that’s why I stuck at purple 5 😂😂
im really frustrated as of how retarded floowondereeze players actually are
Please could you make series like this for all the meta decks! This was awesome!
Here in OCG if we're using branded despia, we side necroworld banshee and zombie world. We'll send banshee and albaz from branded fusion. Resolve everything that needs to resolve then quick effect banshee to call the zombie world. After that they just gonna scoop.
Meh not me in my flunder list you’re going to need at least 3 disruptions plus zombie world for me to scoop
Chain cosmic cyclone… Response ? All Hail Emperor Penguin 🐧
@@grovesy333 better have the answer to stop the fusion. In the TCG, flunder will outright scoop 90+% of the time if albaz fusion resolves. 1 card likely leads to dragoon, zombie world, set branded in red, and possibly DPE on top of it all. Barring a dark ruler to turn dragoon and all off...still gotta deal with branded into chimera to pop 3, draw 3, search a bunch, plus whatever is still set or left in their hand.
@@warriorofgod2700 exactly, to top it off, since floowan. doesnt special, we replace maxx c with droll and lock bird.
@@grovesy333 LOL sure
Zombie World kinda messes up Floowandereeze pretty bad. So run a necro banshee and zombie world in a side deck
Love these types of videos!!! could you make more on the top meta decks? that would be a huge help!
Playing Floo at the YCS. Delete this fam. Good video.
I'mma leave this up. I'll delete it after YCS.
Hahaha
Im gonna watch this guide because floowandereeze is everywhere in master duel 🤣😂
13:00 Droplets is also sketchy because if you send 2 to try and negate Empen and Statue, they can chain the quick play to banish Empen. This will “Fizzle” Droplets. Got a guy at a 3v3 with this
That depends on what they send as cost if they sent a spell then that scenario that interaction woudlnt happened. But thats just a do they have it kind of situation.
@@christianlei2519 all the more reason Chalice is better than Droplets in this MU. Droplets becomes usable only as a 3 card combo if they don’t have Shifter. Sounds rough
Save the droplet for the Raiza or the Empen(or the barrier statue depending on the situation) as those are the actual cards that disrupt your plays whereas the smaller birds are just facilitators to get to that end point
Thank the Lord!!! Finally a detailed nice neat little bite sized counter content creator! Down with meta decks! PLZ MAKE MORE!!!
this was amazing i just subscribed!!!
Tyty
I play Dogmatika Invoked and every time I run into birds I die inside
This is the worst match up against birds unless you go double mechaba
I’ve been waiting for this
You can also Summon Limit them. Unless they have the trap they cant really do anything pass Eglen.
Summon summon
Your turn trap
Summon
Tribute summon big guy
@@Chackothewacko I mention the trap in my post.
Thank you for this !
Thanks for this vid !
Could you show us how to beat ddd? Been popping up at locals a lot and dont know where to stop them
Excelent content. The best channel for competitive player
How can one find ppg event listing? Or any other events that are not listed on the konami website. My work schedule has been keeping me from being able to go to most of the events, and any help would be much appreciated.
are there any fusion monsters that can be used with super poly on these cards (aside from garura which isn't in the game yet)
Awesome video
Can you do a video on the sleeves lol I’m curious if they’re shiny back like PC whites or textured
I'm sorry but i can't catch on the veiler part. Lets say my opp plays any floowendereeze, extra nomal, then tribute summon on empen. There goes chain link 1 on enpem then chain link 2 on those tributed floowendereeze from banish. My question is, can i effect veiler on the empen since its the only effect that on the field? Thanks (sorry, i'm quite new in here)
Is there an updated video for this since Storm Statue is banned or is tit pretty much the same thing?
I think 2 Ultimate Conductor Tyranno could help. Summon the first Tyranno in defense to flip all opponent's monsters face down, then summon the second Tyranno to destroy them all, now they had to go to the GY instead of being banished.
What side decks would you suggest if I am using a Labyrinth deck? Still trying to work it out... for YCS coming up... 🤔
What’s your options on evenly matched and deck devastation virus?
7:55 best to also remember that they can side these Floodgates against you too.
Great video, thanks tombox!! Now if only we could get that inzektor deck profile and combo tutorial....👀
I was already subscribed, so I'mma need you to lift this bricking curse because it's wack as hell and I'm sick of these damn birds.
Have actually considred playing more of the trap because if they droll you and/or lancea on your turn you just set the trap and pass. And as long as you have a small bird to extend you can play on their turn and it can also dodge velier because now its their turn.
Honestly I really hope this deck hits it, very annoying to play against, it is so consistent now with the new quick play, it’s been topping a lot and I’m surprised nobody is talking about how powerful it is
using this to help my floo deck win against mirror matches
Dark Ruler is also a good going second card against them.
Just summon Geomathmech Final Sigma :v. But for real, I play mathmech and in most matches i had against Floowandereeze they dont have an out to unaffected monsters with high attack. I always choose to go first against them just to summon GFS as soon as posible and sometimes even under shifter i get to summon it and after that they just scoop.
I do.)
Ra sphere mode.
A virtual world deck summon that on me. Learned my lesson
Zombie world and banshee really hurts flunder player though 😔
What about Mystic Mine or Majesty Fiend? Could they stop flundereeze?
I haven't hated a deck so much since dragon rulers when they were tier 0
Why is the archetype “Floowandereeze &” rather than just “Floowandereeze” or better yet “Flundereeze”?
Floowandezz nuts!
Going 1st Gozen is also extremely good as soon as they NS Robina they are locked into water. All their big birds and good monsters are Wind. Also Torrential Tribute is good as well as it can clear their board so they can't tribute summon into Empen.
Umm. Chain spell card to banish and clear names... So if they searched eglen get the other win and now use 3 wind summons..
T.T. is good if you are ahead.
@@MSTTV 🤷♂️ idk anytime I go first vs them with Gozen it usually goes through maybe they just literally never have had it bc your right that would play around it. Didnt think of that.
@@MSTTV So are all traps? Even after t1 TT board wipe is still good to remove tribute fodder
@@MSTTV Wait, I think you can still lock em out with Gozen if you flip after they NS Eglen. So they have to send either Robina or Eglen to gy and either way they dont have enough to ns the Empen unless they also had either their one of Stri or Toucan in hand.
My doubt is the floowandereeze are removed due to effects or condition????
Honestly i play lich, i side in 3 crossout and 1 of their trap. Its better than twin, cosmic, evenly, lighting storm. Going 2nd i basically stop their trap so they cant play on my turn and send my traps back via monarch
Going 1st i just side in the 3 crossout 1 twin twister along with my 3 judgement so they dont smack my floodgates
We can’t die because T-posing can’t be stopped! We T-pose on our enemies for game.
Zombieworld vs Floowandereeze is hilarious 🤣🤣🤣
I always like decks that don't rely on the extra deck
Yo how about a video to beat set 4 eldlich pass
I’ve been playing Floowandereeze, now I know how to counter dem counters to my birds.
I’ve played a mirror match and it was hell
@@tombrakey6022 yeah. I love the deck but that’s why I stopped playing it because I hate the mirror match. Maybe when the deck dies down a little, I’ll return to it.
@@sanauj15 I’ve been thinking about missing floowandereeze with some mirror archetype cards just for that match... let me tell you, the chain links happening from both players robins was a clusterfuck
If Lancea is chained to shifter, no cards are banished for the remainder of the turn. What happens if shifter is chained to Lancea?
Same thing
Also. Best to Use an Opposing Barrier Statue.
What about summon limit?
Lightning Storm is good... they can't normal summon in defence (unless they set - which stops their combo right then and there)
But what makes you think they summon all their monsters at once?
.... If you lightning storm monsters.
FS ROBINA, Summon - barrier statue, then... Use trap summon eglen and tribute both for raiza or apex ..
@@MSTTV then why is raigeki better? they can still do that
@@vasilboev1383 raigeki u wait til they commit their spell and traps then clear all of it.
It's not an immediate activation you can bait them into a barrier statue first.
LS once u summon u lose ur opportunity to use it
I played this deck yesterday in tournament
I was able to live because I was using virtual world
So I need to side or main ghost
No imperial iron wall?
Damn didn't think floo was strong that this video was needed
They're very strong
@TheReconRacoon I play floo myself just haven't taken the deck to a tournament myself
flundereeze was free tendies this format but people are finally learning to respect it and side for it. droll ogre veiler are all turned off by shifter. As a flunder player I can say that gamma is the best way to shut things down. Lightning storm is also devastating because you can't normal summon in def obviously so lightning storm is especially effective against flunder. Twin twister is the other big one. Using it in standby is pretty devastating to flunder boards. Most decks are siding judgement now as a counter to the counter.
Just play cards into defense position after negating everything. I play VW SS or SS Tenyi and flunder is a bit of a non issue IMO
@@calls7989 unless they shifter lol
Droll & Lock can only go so Far.
You Really Gotta Make sure those LVL 10s don’t get summoned to the field!
Gamma should be at 3 in Master Duel
D-Shifter is getting annoyingggg
Gotna irrelevant question.... about artifact ignition.
Card Text
If you have an "Artifact" monster in your Deck: Target 1 Spell/Trap on the field; destroy that targe
Some cards state face up... so if the card is face down can it hit it.... like if it's a artifact monster? Never used the artifact cards outside lancia.
Figured great way to be a pain if I can do that
Thanks in advance
Yes it says any spell/trap
@@Stylercom113 awsome. Thanks.
Sorry for late reply didn't get a notafacation
can i double sleeve both my extra and my main deck ? or only extra double sleeving is authorized ?
Heard a story of a judge saying you have to double sleeve everything or nothing, if you got premium gold rares you might HAVE to double sleeve
Chain disappearance seems like a good side deck against this deck
Fisrt step, you get a rock.
I've already hit the subscribe button so I shall hit the like instead. Fair trade?
Plz can u do 1 for ddd
Step 1: find your opponent home address
Step 2: get a lead pipe
Step 3: knock your opponent door when he's busy on his turn
Step 4: as soon as he opens whip that lead pipe straight into his teeth
Step 5: profit???
you forgotten imperial iron wall
Birds best deck we can't be stopped
Zombie world, gg?
I don’t understand raigeki over LS in this matchup. All the birds need to be normal summoned, so they will be in attack position
Because... They don't actually need to put everything on board immediately..
A smart player will hold some of the summons in the trap so if you LS the back they chain the trap, if you LS the front they use the trap and rebuild the whole board...
In fact over commiting the early board will cost them game. It's the equivalent of not respecting nib for a combo deck.
They'll wait for you to summon to play around lightning storm imperm gamma
Then they'll summon and book your board
Mystic Mine stops them pretty well
So Ash is bad even though they add cards from to to hand a TON? I am just curious to see someone else’s perspective on why it’s not one of the better hand traps?
Because they can chainblock you a lot. Many of their effects go off at the same time
Heavy destruction??
Full force virus
i think the most annoying is the field spell. i mean, i dont care what they do and what they have honestly, we can play around it. but that field spell, makes our turn, become their turn.
This ideck is op
Why SPYRALS never top on MD although they are full power?
Maxx c
This deck bricks so hard
LS also destroy the front row since they NS they are always in atk position.. 👀
If you LS,... The front.. they still can chain the back and rebuild.
@@MSTTV i meant it like raigeky or LS i think LS is better since you can hit the back row and the front row (compleatly since they are all in atk position)... well if you get it to going second... then again if you didn't you probably would get Raiza loop either way.
@@cloudstrifer1116 lightning storm requires you to have no face up cards
You're going to have face up cards when they use their resources more than likely
Lightning storm the back row and force their plays without committing to the board.
me, who plays gurus: lol, birbs
As a Floow player, the only thing I will say about the Solemn traps is this. Yes they are good since we can't respond to them, but if we know you play them, a good player will know how to chain block you so we resolve the effect we want. True, this may not always be an option for us, but you should consider the chain blocking ability the deck has
Negate the summon, there is no chain block
Focus on the end 4 bosses
And a good player knows to go after your beefy boys.
@@MSTTV to be fair you did say Strike is good and that one can’t hit any of the summons, while also getting chainblocked. Honestly just seems like you forgot Strike is only special summons. Warning and Judgement still good tho
You cannot chainblock judgement, but your opponent can mess up if they let you summon at the wrong time.
the safest way is to negate the small birds, mark my words. You wanna negate Empen? make sure floo player has no map played at all or else you are getting punished in your turn. Best picks for handtraps : Ash, Droll and that's it. Lancea? i usually just crash through lancea even if it means i lost 2 small birds in the graveyard
ash is terrible against floowandereeze in like 90% of situations
@@GuitarBloodlines coming from a floo player here, you need to check the banish pile. Usually they have only one banished bird unless advent or gold sarc is used, it's still good to use ash but you better know the matchup well or just use imperm/veiler instead
His face is funny in the vid when I tapped it to watch.
SD RED REBOOT!
More counter content
What a out Nibiru?
No zombie world
Do B.A.S.E.D next pls
Already did... It's literally in ultimate counter guide... Part 1 2 and 3.
czcams.com/video/i9SEz89wwyc/video.html
Deck lockdown stops them in their tracks.
Flunder is my worst match up
Fog King
Bagooska shut them down mostly
I hate this deck so much. I don't think I've won a single match against this deck irl and on db. Never open the outs vs them-_-
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Niche card
But I have used solemn judgment on the NS
Ends the turn
Use solemn judgment to block dark ruler.. if going 1st I'd say..
I hate d shifter I play phantom knights it messes me up so much
Play zombie world
I got stuck when encountering this deck
Zombie world, special summon monsters in defense and use kaijus
Wait did I miss something how do I stop dimension shifter holy hell this deck is annoying
Soul drain???
I sure hope they, Bee Trooper and Eldlich get more support just to p*ss people off 😂
Mask of Restric that all
Just play striker then they can scoop
This deck isn't that bad and sure the traps and handtraps are hurting u but a negate or 2 and the 20 handtraps ppl play at ycs the deck gets hit hard
Negates obviously hurt it just like any deck. That’s why they play DRNM. He covered the handtraps
NO Fly Zone lol
Bruh thats toxic