Its kind of strange that the marked men are enemies at heart but brothers in the divide. They shouldn't have gone after two of the deadliest humans known as courier 6, and Ulysses. They probably went insane because of the constant "bear,bull,bull,bear"
My friend got a warning from God. He said "Tell my people I am coming back soon, and read your Word". Here are some verses I recommend reading~ Matthew 7:21-23 Matthew 4:17 Acts 2:17 Joel 2:28 James 2:17-26 Acts 16:31 I recommend writing them down and truly meditating on them. 22 But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves. 23 For if any be a hearer of the word, and not a doer, he is like unto a man beholding his natural face in a glass: 24 For he beholdeth himself, and goeth his way, and straightway forgetteth what manner of man he was. 25 But whoso looketh into the perfect law of liberty, and continueth therein, he being not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work, this man shall be blessed in his deed. -James 1:22-25 Tomorrow isn't promised, BUT, God being a loving and forgiving Father is and always will be, don't wait until later or tomorrow. Gods kingdom is at hand! ❤️The wages of sin is death (hell) a eternal separation and death from a eternal God that wanted a relationship with you, living separate from Him causes this, turn from your fleshly desires of pride, masturbating, fornication, drunk/high, anything you know that you sin with and I don't, crucify your flesh and do not turn back to it for it does nothing but bring pain and nothing fulfilling only God can do that, consider what I said it's ultimately your choice but what I'm saying is the truth, and I love you God loves you Jesus loves you He died on the cross for your sins and everyone's ALLL OF THE WORLDS SIN, and He loved you so much that it was done, ultimately it's your choice but this is the warning and on judgment day God will ask you why you didn't listen
@@themountainking3378I agree. Even though the game tells you that you've been there before, I always like to think that Ulysses is *just* crazy and is confusing his deeds with our own - even if that doesn't make complete sense lol
@@notafrog749Personally I like to imagine it was a different courier who caused the divide, Ulysses's vendetta is entirely justified, only problem was he got the wrong guy.
@@Psychosomatic63 agreed, courier 6 just means the 6th courier....could've been 100 of them before you...but you're still courier 6 when you take the job.
You're a bit wrong there, they aren't red because of their skin tone, they're red because they are skinless, which you can actually make out on their character models, the lore going that the winds and sands of the divide literally scrapped the skin from them but the radiation keep them alive. They're in about as much pain as you would imagine an undying skinless person to be. Part of their lore is while they suffered they used their symbols as something to hold onto so they didn't lose themselves, for the legion it was their armor, for the NCR it was their weapons, which is why a lot of the legion based on are dressed like the lagate while the NCR ones for the most part are dressed like normal soldiers.
Since they don't have any flesh they would only feel cold. The lack of a hypodermis skin layer also means no surface base nerves to even signal pain. These guys would just be freezing all the time, unable to retain body heat
@@hathynhighley8548wrong, pain signals are all through out your body, in between your flesh and even some nerves pass between your bones, they are definitely feeling all that
@christianarizmendi8745 I guess technically you would feel pain but the nociceptors needed to recognize it would be gone. Unless the muscle itself was damaged you wouldn't feel much pain, especially when many nerves are going to straight up dehydrate. Most pain would be caused potentially by fever from infection and potentially onset necrosis caused by the dehydrated nerves. You know when your outside for a very long time in winter and your figures or toes start to hurt? That's probably what they feel
@@hathynhighley8548 yes exactly what i meant, just imagine that worse, because remember, ghouls inthe fallout verse regenerate some parts more than others, and if by any chance they regen their nerves they are gonna feel a boat load of all that pain throughout their bodies
Well, I’d be in constant and excruciating pain if the one normal dude in the divide kept telling me about “the Bull” and “the Bear” like seriously dude, can’t we just talk about something other than apocalyptic geopolitics for five minutes man
@@thesuperintendent4290 People often misquote and misunderstand Ulysses . They think his point is that ideology is a means to get people to kill each other in perpetual conflict and we would be better off or at least capable to advance as a species if we wipe the slate of all ideology or culture to begin again Yet, What he really meant was he is hankering for a box of Fancy Lads Snack Cakes
The marked men really made me think. The thing is, they strive to live but still want to die fighting. So is this a metaphor for the PTSD of war veterans? I believe it, though I can't be sure, as I didn't serve and never experienced the horrors of modern warfare. Geez, THE LONG ROAD really got under my skin with all that dark Ulysses monologues. That was the most dystopian storyline of all Fallout for me.
The way the Marked Men are expanded upon in Fallout: DUST is such a cool progression from their role in Lonesome Road. And when you think about what you had to do to learn the lore, it's heartbreaking
@@originalname610Your underestimating the will to live. Basic human principle, also if they leave legion traitors would be hunted. NCR soldiers shamed as cowards for alignment with legion forces in the divide.
@@alexevans3498 lmfao I was absolutely buttered when I made this dad joke... hence the *ba dum tss*. The whole DLC gets kinda homoerotic if you really think about it. Remove your like if you don’t think it’s actually funny… I care not for your pity likes
The first of the North rawr is a slightly special deathclaw gauntlet that does extra damage. It's also a reference to the movie "fist of the North Star"
Actually it's because hopeville was an old war military base hints the nuked you gotta detonate and the barracks it's why when courier 6 delivered the launch codes to the NCR because it had those warheads to blow up hopeville was because the legion was creeping up inside and they didn't want those supplies to go into their hands which would've out gunned/supplied the NCR but the thing is NCR had already had a good amount of men in the the divided meaning they doomed there men as well.
Well they don’t want to live and they hate the divide for keeping them in their hell so…. Why not just leave and accept the fate that would await them.
Being in that much constant agony 24/7 drove them to insanity so logical thinking is in short supply, the divide has few intact entrances and those have military grade security to make it through first, even if they make it that far who knows whats the point their bodies shut down from too little RADS...maybe just past the bunker doors.
As others have said, some probably did try to leave through the Hopeville bunker. However, they likely got killed by the bunker’s Sentry Bots. I also imagine that despite wanting to die, part of them wants to live as well, so it creates a morbid Yin and Yang situation.
@@RealDavidChipmansometimes it just pure stubbornness, sometimes it's the fear of death itself, and sometimes it's the paranoia. At that point its more of a question of if your are actively looking for a way or just passively waiting
Been a long time since I played but this always made me think like “how is this my fault.” I delivered a package. Ain’t my job to check other people’s mail, just get it there.
Always was curious how Dry Wells and Long 15 looked before.. y'know, they get bombed. How the named NCR and named Legion people would've been like to talk to.
From my understanding they are literally just ghouls who had their skin torn off by the winds of the divide, as explained by Ulysses, I believe. The lack of ferals could be attributed to mercy kills from friends, since living there isn't great anyway, cannibalism or just a writing oversight. I could be wrong tho, since there's a dialogue option (survival skill) that says the levels of radiation in the divide could kill even a ghoul.
They're a special kind of ghoul. Basically the majority of ghouls turn gradually from radiation poisoning, there's not many who were turned from an instant dose of it besides odd examples like Moira from Megatron. They're in this weird state of ghoulification where their skin and hair didn't start to rot from necrosis but rather it was stripped from them by the weather of the Divide. Their skin tries to grow back and the Divide just removes it in an endless cycle.
The problem with Ulysses isn't the "bear bull bear bull bear bull" nonsense, it actually makes a lot of sense that he's traumatized eve broken. The problem is that someone like that just isn't a very compelling protagonist.
I dont think or remember their skin was red becuse of the divide. It was red becuse...well they tear off each others skin. (I may be remembering wrong)
In the lore, the divides constant sandstorm literally sanded off their skin, leaving nothing but the muscle and bone underneath. So they don't have red skin, they don't have skin at all. Its just exposed muscle and tendons.
@@blackmesacake5361You overestimate the amount of lore-based decisions which actually go into modern TV adaptations. Telling you now, its not going to be anything to do with The Divide.
@@Your-Least-Favorite-Stranger actually I'm an idiot anyway the ghouls there do not look like that simply because they had "been to The Divide", but because NCR and Legion soldiers were they when it BECAME The Divide. Their close proximity to the blasts gave them the red skin burn.
The New California Republic established a new trade route through the Divide, bypassing the heavily trafficked Long 15. This gave the NCR a significant logistical advantage over Caesar's Legion. Caesar attempted to disrupt this new route in the lead-up to the First Battle of Hoover Dam.
Before Courier delivered his package, which exploded nukes underground, this place was one of the NCR's trade roads. Many legionaries were sent there to kill their caravans and sabotage things. After the nukes exploded, they turned into the Marked Man
Notice how you launched the nuke to get through the place? That was ncr territory once. Hopeville was an old military base armed with nukes and the courier had the things needed to get those nukes working. He delivered the package to the ncr, but fucked up along the way. He accidentally blew up the ncr's nukes, and the lions partially succeeded their mission in keeping the bombs out of ncr hands.
@@highfivemistertorque4537 I’m not good with any of the timelines but also they never say the age of Courier 6 or Ulysses so who knows. We might run into one of them in the Fallut show
@@sergeantquackers7815yes it is. If you paid attention to Ulysses in the divide, he said that the tunnellers will eventually find their way to the Mojave and annihilate every other living creature. The dust storms will also eventually reach the Mojave and blanket the area in dust forever. Safe to say it’s cannon. You’re just another one of those tards that came from the show and think you know everything now cause you watched a lore video or two. Fuck off.
I remember playing new vegas over and over for the different endings. I always used a melee build and couldn't be bothered for guns. Until i got this dlc. Only sneaked and used rifles probabaly the entire time.
frick man that's layered af. Like the metaphor of The Divide. They ended up there bc of division and hate of one another and that keeps fueling their war. Now that it's metaphorical flames have gotten out of hand they're trying so hard to put them out.
Here's a good question who do you send the nuke to the NCR or the legion if you send it to the legion you get the best Legion armor or do you go for the NCR the power armor that has the Bear Skin on it, but you have to nuke one, or the everything dies ending getting both
House Courier: Nuke Legion, cutting off NCR tourism will hurt the bottom line, also I need that +1 SPECIAL NCR Courier: Nuke Legion obviously Legion Courier: Nuke everyone: NCR because they are the enemy, and Legion to get 87th armor Independent Vegas Courier: kills everyone for lols, doesn't even use the unique items just puts them in storage.
Just for gameplay reasons i left ed-e behind Ulysses temple for the loansome road perk and then nuked ncr for taking the sierra scorched power armour for 1+ strength and health regeneration
I think its cause they're not completely feral, and because they lack their skin that would be rotting off slowly. In a sense they look sharper that most in-game, non-feral ghouls
Has there only been 1 courier 6? Nothing explicitly states that...besides you've been here before...doesnt mean you were even a courier at that time. Courier 6 is a job title....anyone who replaces him would be known as courier 6 as well.
What’s the divide? How does it keep them alive (novice Fallout lore learner here, I’ve only played Fallout 3, and I haven’t quite finished it. I haven’t played it in over 6 years but if I remember correctly I somewhere between 75 and 110 hours of playtime, something like that). Any explanation would be greatly appreciated as I’m trying to learn more about the Fallout universe :P
It's a place somewhere to the west from Mojave. Before the War it was a pretty important place with lots of nuke silos and military bases. Then, roughly 200 years later, it was a relatively peaceful place with the new society. Couriers was a lifesource of this place, as they delivered here all the important things. Also it was one of the NCR's (New California Republic) main trade roads. Legion's (Caesar's Legion) soldiers was send there to sabotage things and kill caravans. One day The Courier, game's main hero, delivered some package, he didn't knew what was in it. As it turned out, it was some kind of detonator, which activated pre war technologies and detonated underground nukes. Most of the people died, some turned into Marked Man, some kind of ghouls. Ghouls are mutated humans who can't get older, but their cells are constantly dying, but they are getting a better regeneration when are irradiated. Some cells, like brain cells, can't be regenerated, so they're becoming feral ghouls
So the courier caused this after trying to deliver launch codes to the ncr, dooming thousands to this fate, yet the ncr doesnt notice its him in the game?
dont ask about room 40 in the divide
Can I ask about room 40
What’s room 40 in the divide about?
Damn it now I gotta look that up!
“On further research it was revealed to be just the room for someone like Arcade Gannon but not Courier Six”.
Lol
@@TiltedTilterGaminggood luck, nothing anywhere. Man is GATEKEEPING LORE FROM US. Or gaslighting. Either way he better make a video about room 40
What's Room 40 in the Divide?
Its kind of strange that the marked men are enemies at heart but brothers in the divide. They shouldn't have gone after two of the deadliest humans known as courier 6, and Ulysses. They probably went insane because of the constant "bear,bull,bull,bear"
being stuck listening to Ulysses for long enough would make anyone go insane honestly
"You will hate one stupid bitch, while we will hate another. Fate had made us foes, but those shits will make us brothers"
My friend got a warning from God. He said "Tell my people I am coming back soon, and read your Word".
Here are some verses I recommend reading~
Matthew 7:21-23
Matthew 4:17
Acts 2:17
Joel 2:28
James 2:17-26
Acts 16:31
I recommend writing them down and truly meditating on them.
22 But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.
23 For if any be a hearer of the word, and not a doer, he is like unto a man beholding his natural face in a glass:
24 For he beholdeth himself, and goeth his way, and straightway forgetteth what manner of man he was.
25 But whoso looketh into the perfect law of liberty, and continueth therein, he being not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work, this man shall be blessed in his deed.
-James 1:22-25
Tomorrow isn't promised, BUT, God being a loving and forgiving Father is and always will be, don't wait until later or tomorrow. Gods kingdom is at hand! ❤️The wages of sin is death (hell) a eternal separation and death from a eternal God that wanted a relationship with you, living separate from Him causes this, turn from your fleshly desires of pride, masturbating, fornication, drunk/high, anything you know that you sin with and I don't, crucify your flesh and do not turn back to it for it does nothing but bring pain and nothing fulfilling only God can do that, consider what I said it's ultimately your choice but what I'm saying is the truth, and I love you God loves you Jesus loves you He died on the cross for your sins and everyone's ALLL OF THE WORLDS SIN, and He loved you so much that it was done, ultimately it's your choice but this is the warning and on judgment day God will ask you why you didn't listen
Somthing somthing somthing bear and bull somthing somthimg somthing the long 15 - Ulysses probably
@@babobum6993THE BEAR
and the bull...
Ulysses: You who do not know your history, you killed these people, you delivered the package
Courier 6: LOL I'll fuckin do it again
Lmao
Trying to guilt trip the player with a nonexistent backstory of an ambiguous player character wasnt a smart idea.
@@themountainking3378I agree. Even though the game tells you that you've been there before, I always like to think that Ulysses is *just* crazy and is confusing his deeds with our own - even if that doesn't make complete sense lol
@@notafrog749Personally I like to imagine it was a different courier who caused the divide, Ulysses's vendetta is entirely justified, only problem was he got the wrong guy.
@@Psychosomatic63 agreed, courier 6 just means the 6th courier....could've been 100 of them before you...but you're still courier 6 when you take the job.
You're a bit wrong there, they aren't red because of their skin tone, they're red because they are skinless, which you can actually make out on their character models, the lore going that the winds and sands of the divide literally scrapped the skin from them but the radiation keep them alive.
They're in about as much pain as you would imagine an undying skinless person to be.
Part of their lore is while they suffered they used their symbols as something to hold onto so they didn't lose themselves, for the legion it was their armor, for the NCR it was their weapons, which is why a lot of the legion based on are dressed like the lagate while the NCR ones for the most part are dressed like normal soldiers.
Since they don't have any flesh they would only feel cold. The lack of a hypodermis skin layer also means no surface base nerves to even signal pain. These guys would just be freezing all the time, unable to retain body heat
To add on to this, they do actually fight each other, as Ulysses says they "tear at each other for sport"
@@hathynhighley8548wrong, pain signals are all through out your body, in between your flesh and even some nerves pass between your bones, they are definitely feeling all that
@christianarizmendi8745 I guess technically you would feel pain but the nociceptors needed to recognize it would be gone. Unless the muscle itself was damaged you wouldn't feel much pain, especially when many nerves are going to straight up dehydrate. Most pain would be caused potentially by fever from infection and potentially onset necrosis caused by the dehydrated nerves.
You know when your outside for a very long time in winter and your figures or toes start to hurt? That's probably what they feel
@@hathynhighley8548 yes exactly what i meant, just imagine that worse, because remember, ghouls inthe fallout verse regenerate some parts more than others, and if by any chance they regen their nerves they are gonna feel a boat load of all that pain throughout their bodies
Well, I’d be in constant and excruciating pain if the one normal dude in the divide kept telling me about “the Bull” and “the Bear” like seriously dude, can’t we just talk about something other than apocalyptic geopolitics for five minutes man
It's an apocalypse, I don't think there's really all that much to talk about....
@@elishafollet5347 "Sky looks awfully green today"
"Shut the fuck up george"
@@elishafollet5347How about the deliciousness of Fancy Lads Snack Cakes
@@nathanielgarza9198Ulysses will say that but then go on a rant about how the NCR will fall into decadence and corruption.
@@thesuperintendent4290 People often misquote and misunderstand Ulysses . They think his point is that ideology is a means to get people to kill each other in perpetual conflict and we would be better off or at least capable to advance as a species if we wipe the slate of all ideology or culture to begin again
Yet, What he really meant was he is hankering for a box of Fancy Lads Snack Cakes
Until a certain courier revisits The Divide and puts an end to their pain.
Man that's brutal. It's like how Darth Vader is basically a corpse kept alive by his hatred.
Good comparsion
Even more so would be Darth Sion. That guy didn't even have a suit to keep him alive. He was held together with nothing but rage and agony.
Also Maul but not as bad as Vader has it since he can breathe normally
@@timedork777 And he refused to actually DIE when he is killed...
@@kabob0077 Yeah, and it was his feelings for Meetra Surik that led to her convincing him to just finally let go.
Constant agony overrules hate. Survival beats flags.
Wow you're so smart
Did you made it up?
The marked men really made me think. The thing is, they strive to live but still want to die fighting. So is this a metaphor for the PTSD of war veterans? I believe it, though I can't be sure, as I didn't serve and never experienced the horrors of modern warfare. Geez, THE LONG ROAD really got under my skin with all that dark Ulysses monologues. That was the most dystopian storyline of all Fallout for me.
The monologue in question:
“Bear bull bull bear bear bull bear”
@@The_Menace_567 T H E D I V I D E
Pfff, dude The Master is FAR more grim and dark than the Divide. The horrors of the Children of the Cathedral far surpasses anything after it.
The way the Marked Men are expanded upon in Fallout: DUST is such a cool progression from their role in Lonesome Road. And when you think about what you had to do to learn the lore, it's heartbreaking
If they’re so angry that they’re still alive then why don’t they just leave?
They die if they leave.
@@spartanwarrior9755they don't want to live
Are they stupid?
@@originalname610Your underestimating the will to live. Basic human principle, also if they leave legion traitors would be hunted. NCR soldiers shamed as cowards for alignment with legion forces in the divide.
They’re probably all at least somewhat feral/insane.
The only thing the Marked Men truly enjoyed was getting tunneled in their Divide with the “Fist of Rawr”
*ba dum tss*
ill be your 39 pity like.
@@alexevans3498 lmfao I was absolutely buttered when I made this dad joke... hence the *ba dum tss*.
The whole DLC gets kinda homoerotic if you really think about it. Remove your like if you don’t think it’s actually funny… I care not for your pity likes
Is this some fisting joke I’m too normal to understand?
@@RealDavidChipman man… I didn’t think the code to this cipher could ever be cracked. Lol
The first of the North rawr is a slightly special deathclaw gauntlet that does extra damage. It's also a reference to the movie "fist of the North Star"
marked men also have better weapons than their normal human legion/ncr variants for no reason.
Actually it's because hopeville was an old war military base hints the nuked you gotta detonate and the barracks it's why when courier 6 delivered the launch codes to the NCR because it had those warheads to blow up hopeville was because the legion was creeping up inside and they didn't want those supplies to go into their hands which would've out gunned/supplied the NCR but the thing is NCR had already had a good amount of men in the the divided meaning they doomed there men as well.
Because game balancing, Lonesome Road is intended to be completed close to the end of the game.
That was also a road that transported a lot of NCR supplies from California.
Well they don’t want to live and they hate the divide for keeping them in their hell so….
Why not just leave and accept the fate that would await them.
They do, there’s several corpses in ulysses’ temple and the hopeville silo. Those that make it out are probably picked clean by scavengers
Being in that much constant agony 24/7 drove them to insanity so logical thinking is in short supply, the divide has few intact entrances and those have military grade security to make it through first, even if they make it that far who knows whats the point their bodies shut down from too little RADS...maybe just past the bunker doors.
As others have said, some probably did try to leave through the Hopeville bunker. However, they likely got killed by the bunker’s Sentry Bots. I also imagine that despite wanting to die, part of them wants to live as well, so it creates a morbid Yin and Yang situation.
@@RealDavidChipmansometimes it just pure stubbornness, sometimes it's the fear of death itself, and sometimes it's the paranoia. At that point its more of a question of if your are actively looking for a way or just passively waiting
@@ufc3459 it’s horrid, really. Unimaginable pain, wanting to die. Yet, battling with the human desire and need to stay alive.
It’s actually kinda awesome that they banned together to survive despite being enemies.
Opinions change pretty quickly when faced with real adversity
There is something deeply amusing about half ghoulish Legion warriors. Something ironic about twists of fate.
My favorite enemies
Hopefully someone mods them into fallout 4.
@hurricanehaze6621 I think somebody did, but they were just base game non-feral ghouls retextured to have red skin.
Let's not forget Ulysses.
Only survived because of some Medical Eyebots that were near and saved him
The mark of a true Courier, having a cute Eyebot companion.
I dunno about y’all but I think the Devs over at obsidian snapped after they didn’t get the 85 metacritic score bonus
I agree brother
Bull and the bear- ululuesesa
If I remember correctly their skin was flayed from the insane winds in the divide it basically sandblasted their skin off
Been a long time since I played but this always made me think like “how is this my fault.” I delivered a package. Ain’t my job to check other people’s mail, just get it there.
You forgot to mention how badass the bear head NCR power armor is
These mfs and their 50cals and stealthy boys
Idk how they get anything done
they do things very angrily
It's funny that the boss for the ncr if you nuke them has that power armor like he had it before he went crazy
Wait the game itself says they aren't ghouls, theyre normal humans who got their skin blasted off by the constant storm
They are ghouls. When did the game say they weren't?
They are described as raw fleshed wandering sashimi geiger spiker skeletons and you believe they are not ghoulified? 😂
they are ghouls, when u go to the courier mile nuke zone they regen hp constantly in the nuke irradiation
The Bear and The Bull united in the divide.
The marked men hate the divide because the courier comes back to divide their cheeks for getting in the courier's way
How poetic. Hatred is what brought them there, and now its what keeps them there.
It is ironic, but it was duty that brought them there, and that same sense of duty betrayed them.
"To the divide they came, in the divide they rest"
These are the people who received the warp of Chaos and turn into servant of Chaos that finally know who is the real enemy is
Always was curious how Dry Wells and Long 15 looked before.. y'know, they get bombed. How the named NCR and named Legion people would've been like to talk to.
you forgot to add that the storms literally slowly stripped off all of their skin
"The Divide keeps them alive. And they hate it for that."
One of the most chilling sentences I heard about a place, real or fictional.
I love how in depth your videos go keep up the good work
Nothing brings people together like Hatred
Ulysses and the Courier: “Skill issue, Womp womp.”
United by The Divide. Poetic.
I wish they were fleshed out and had dialogue
fleshed out, lol
Maybe even gain another companion by giving a guy some Med-X or something.
Fate worse than death.
God new Vegas DLCs were elite
me casually walking away from the divide like its my bedroom
Pain makes for the strangest allies.
My favorite is in fallout 76; sometimes when you kill a scorched, then can say “Thank you”
Ulysses: how could you deliver the package
The courier: 🤨
You should do full video on the marked men and other enemy's and creatures
Kinda like today's society.... Finally found something in fallout i can truly relate to.
From my understanding they are literally just ghouls who had their skin torn off by the winds of the divide, as explained by Ulysses, I believe.
The lack of ferals could be attributed to mercy kills from friends, since living there isn't great anyway, cannibalism or just a writing oversight. I could be wrong tho, since there's a dialogue option (survival skill) that says the levels of radiation in the divide could kill even a ghoul.
They're a special kind of ghoul. Basically the majority of ghouls turn gradually from radiation poisoning, there's not many who were turned from an instant dose of it besides odd examples like Moira from Megatron. They're in this weird state of ghoulification where their skin and hair didn't start to rot from necrosis but rather it was stripped from them by the weather of the Divide. Their skin tries to grow back and the Divide just removes it in an endless cycle.
I think its their hatred and pain that keeps them non-feral. They're insane, but it keeps them grounded
The problem with Ulysses isn't the "bear bull bear bull bear bull" nonsense, it actually makes a lot of sense that he's traumatized eve broken. The problem is that someone like that just isn't a very compelling protagonist.
Hence, He's an Antagonist, Not Protagonist
They don’t have a crimson skin tone that’s their exposed muscle from their skin being stripped off from the storms in the divide
You got the lore a bit wrong they are just ghouls but the divide ripped their skin off, they don't have a skin tone they don't have skin
It's not a crimson skin tone.
*_They have no skin._*
If they get midichlorians, then it's jover 💀
I dont think or remember their skin was red becuse of the divide. It was red becuse...well they tear off each others skin. (I may be remembering wrong)
In the lore, the divides constant sandstorm literally sanded off their skin, leaving nothing but the muscle and bone underneath. So they don't have red skin, they don't have skin at all. Its just exposed muscle and tendons.
@@That_50s_Guyyeah that was what is remember. They are in constant pain. That is why they hate the divide .
Need that armor.
Just got it yesterday its badass
This is from lonesome road right
Yes
Omg the ghoul from the show probably looks that way because he spent time in the Divide!
Nope, just bad costume design
@@dovahkiin7253 bruh u have no way of knowing why he's red lmao just wait for the show
@@blackmesacake5361You overestimate the amount of lore-based decisions which actually go into modern TV adaptations.
Telling you now, its not going to be anything to do with The Divide.
@@Your-Least-Favorite-Stranger actually I'm an idiot anyway the ghouls there do not look like that simply because they had "been to The Divide", but because NCR and Legion soldiers were they when it BECAME The Divide. Their close proximity to the blasts gave them the red skin burn.
@@blackmesacake5361they had their skin ripped off by the constant storms in the divide, not the blast itself but it did obviously played a part in it
Why do they attack the courier if they want to die? Are they stupid?
Why were such high ranking ncr and legion officers in the divide?
The New California Republic established a new trade route through the Divide, bypassing the heavily trafficked Long 15. This gave the NCR a significant logistical advantage over Caesar's Legion. Caesar attempted to disrupt this new route in the lead-up to the First Battle of Hoover Dam.
I wonder why they were sent into the divide at all
Before Courier delivered his package, which exploded nukes underground, this place was one of the NCR's trade roads. Many legionaries were sent there to kill their caravans and sabotage things. After the nukes exploded, they turned into the Marked Man
Notice how you launched the nuke to get through the place? That was ncr territory once. Hopeville was an old military base armed with nukes and the courier had the things needed to get those nukes working. He delivered the package to the ncr, but fucked up along the way. He accidentally blew up the ncr's nukes, and the lions partially succeeded their mission in keeping the bombs out of ncr hands.
i wonder if the ghoul is inspired by that japanese guy who were exposed by huge amount of radiation and kept alive even tho his cell's is rotting
Hey, skipping on the editing to hear your voice is always a win, don’t stress about it for smaller projects like this one!
I wonder if they're related to the Scorched.
Doubt it
Scorched virus is basically rabies
@camarofish344 very plausible 🤷♂️
heyyy, that power armour was bigger than usual
titana of the new west?
Oh god Avellone really did write this. They're all Darth Scion from Kotor 2
I really have to replay NV
Sounds like dope addiction
It would be dope if they include The Divide in season 2 of the Fallout show
The ghoul (or Lucy) meeting one of The Marked Men would be cool to see. Along with Ulysses
@@blacktemplarbarachel3387 its like 15+ years after new vegas . Look at fallout dust thats legit canon now
@@highfivemistertorque4537 I’m not good with any of the timelines but also they never say the age of Courier 6 or Ulysses so who knows. We might run into one of them in the Fallut show
@@highfivemistertorque4537fallout dust is not cannon, what are you talking about?
@@sergeantquackers7815yes it is. If you paid attention to Ulysses in the divide, he said that the tunnellers will eventually find their way to the Mojave and annihilate every other living creature. The dust storms will also eventually reach the Mojave and blanket the area in dust forever. Safe to say it’s cannon. You’re just another one of those tards that came from the show and think you know everything now cause you watched a lore video or two. Fuck off.
Always wondered why they didn't just leave
Rely on each other for survival.......mad that their alive
I remember playing new vegas over and over for the different endings. I always used a melee build and couldn't be bothered for guns. Until i got this dlc. Only sneaked and used rifles probabaly the entire time.
frick man that's layered af.
Like the metaphor of The Divide. They ended up there bc of division and hate of one another and that keeps fueling their war. Now that it's metaphorical flames have gotten out of hand they're trying so hard to put them out.
Here's a good question who do you send the nuke to the NCR or the legion if you send it to the legion you get the best Legion armor or do you go for the NCR the power armor that has the Bear Skin on it, but you have to nuke one, or the everything dies ending getting both
House Courier: Nuke Legion, cutting off NCR tourism will hurt the bottom line, also I need that +1 SPECIAL
NCR Courier: Nuke Legion obviously
Legion Courier: Nuke everyone: NCR because they are the enemy, and Legion to get 87th armor
Independent Vegas Courier: kills everyone for lols, doesn't even use the unique items just puts them in storage.
Just for gameplay reasons i left ed-e behind Ulysses temple for the loansome road perk and then nuked ncr for taking the sierra scorched power armour for 1+ strength and health regeneration
I actually played this DLC and I remember almost nothing about it, including these guys.
The ghoul from the new tv series looks like a marked man he’s got the red face
Fuck off back to your tv show. You people have ruined the fallout universe.
Talk about Master story telling
But you showed the NCR one from past the Mojave outpost if you nuke them
And there’s other marked men in dry wells if you nuke them too
So they can't leave?
What fallout game do they appear in
Fallout new vegas, lonesome road DLC
God coming back to this years later is still painful how idiotic tyler was
**talks about all the problems Rome had, even going in detail about the failure**
Yeah but this time we're doing it for real and forevers guys
True.
What if "The Ghoul" from the show is a "marked man"? Just a theory.
>leave
Not red skin tone. They have no skin. The divide’s winds have flayed them alive.
Otherwise this was spot on. Way to go.
Yo imagine marked men show up in fallout seasons 2
@@xnineteenturtlex7300 that would be wild
Like the scorched....
No. The scorched are mutated w/the scorched plague and practically mindless zombies.
@@moss8702 yeah the scorched plague, sure. But also the dudes in the Savage Divide are nearly the exact same but without Ultracite Cancer.
they kinda look like the Ghoul from the Fallout show
God you people have ruined the fallout universe.
@@NunyaFB443 I've been playing fallout since before your whole existence degraded into crying over changes in a fictional universe
@@universe8607 your whole existence amounts to 12 years. Stfu newbie
I think its cause they're not completely feral, and because they lack their skin that would be rotting off slowly. In a sense they look sharper that most in-game, non-feral ghouls
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I never understood if the Marked men wanted to die why didn’t they just leave the divide.
Has there only been 1 courier 6? Nothing explicitly states that...besides you've been here before...doesnt mean you were even a courier at that time. Courier 6 is a job title....anyone who replaces him would be known as courier 6 as well.
What’s the divide? How does it keep them alive (novice Fallout lore learner here, I’ve only played Fallout 3, and I haven’t quite finished it. I haven’t played it in over 6 years but if I remember correctly I somewhere between 75 and 110 hours of playtime, something like that).
Any explanation would be greatly appreciated as I’m trying to learn more about the Fallout universe :P
It's a place somewhere to the west from Mojave. Before the War it was a pretty important place with lots of nuke silos and military bases. Then, roughly 200 years later, it was a relatively peaceful place with the new society. Couriers was a lifesource of this place, as they delivered here all the important things. Also it was one of the NCR's (New California Republic) main trade roads. Legion's (Caesar's Legion) soldiers was send there to sabotage things and kill caravans. One day The Courier, game's main hero, delivered some package, he didn't knew what was in it. As it turned out, it was some kind of detonator, which activated pre war technologies and detonated underground nukes. Most of the people died, some turned into Marked Man, some kind of ghouls. Ghouls are mutated humans who can't get older, but their cells are constantly dying, but they are getting a better regeneration when are irradiated. Some cells, like brain cells, can't be regenerated, so they're becoming feral ghouls
Weren't all ghouls like the mark men with their skin flayed in the beginning.
So the courier caused this after trying to deliver launch codes to the ncr, dooming thousands to this fate, yet the ncr doesnt notice its him in the game?
why didnt they just leave? are they stupid?
Because they're also scared of dying.
It is the irony of man they hate being alive but they still fear death.. ahh.. humans
Which game
Real question why don't they just leave
They're also scared of dying.
They're insane
Marked men seem like scorched tbh.
the scorched are suffering from a virus, these guys are just ghouls with a unique requirement to stay in the landscape or die.
And its all because of you courier 6
GRRR I HATE THE DIVIDE-