Bolt-On Vs. Set-Neck Vs. Neck-Thru: What Are The Differences?
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- Bolt-on neck. Set-neck. Neck-thru construction... What exactly ARE the differences? Find out in this video!
Bolt-On Vs. Set-Neck Vs. Neck-Thru: What Are The Differences?
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I've played guitar for 70 years (1949) all the guitars were standard guitar. If I were jump horses in the middle of the stream, I'd choose the "thru neck"
model. Jus my 2 cents worth!!!!
The bigger question in my mind is how much sustain do you really need? You seem to have plenty with all three different construction types.
Agreed. A long sustained note or chord is great once in a while but it would sound gimmicky and dull if you kept doing it. There are other instruments like violins or horns that can sustain a note in more interesting ways than guitar imo. (Swells and texture changes on the fly)
I worry more about the intensity of the notes than their duration. You will hardly find any guitar with a lack of sustain unless it is a bad guitar 🤷🏻♂️
I wonder if sustain transmission depends more on the bridge and tuners construction than in the neck joint or wood type.
And if you need more, there are ways to add some steel pieces to the body that surely add huge sustain.
My bolt on prestige ibanez 5120m has more sustain than my neck thru rgt42dxfmtlf though I think that's because the 5120 is an absolute blinder - it also cost 4 times as much. But the rgt feels amazing in its own way, fret access and action is excellent and though it was cheaper it sounds far better than the cost would imply.
Neckthu mm Majesty has sustain for days ! Loves these guitars...
Thanks for recording this. I never really thought that there was much of a difference in tone or sustain. Your video showed the differences of construction and I'm certain a lot of guitarists learned something today. I know I did.
Thanks man, my pleasure!
I’ve played neck through, set neck and bolt on neck guitars and personally I prefer bolt on neck guitars. They are just easier to work on and just feel more solid to me. Just my personal preference, I’ve played some set neck Gibson’s and I just felt like I I had to be more careful with the guitar and I played a custom shop Jackson a friend had that was a neck through and it just felt a bit heavy for my liking. All three neck construction is fine but we all have a preference
Great video. I didn't know there were so many differences in the way necks we're attached or not attached as in the neck through. I learn something new every time you do these types of things and it's much appreciated. To me, knowing how something works helps me in understanding why it works etc.. Hope you feel better. Try hot buttered rum...hell try ANY rum!!
Thanks for this guide
This was some damn good info, Sir! Thank you!
You’re welcome!
thanks for the clear distinction and information man :)
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Thanks man! Welcome to the family!
I couldn’t agree more. I have 1 set neck, 2 bolts on and 2 neck through. I don’t see a difference in sustain really but i like my neck throughs better because of the joint.
Now, ibanez for example makes bolt ons that are a lot more playable than fenders.
Also now there are some angled joints (like chapmans) that also help
I have my Aria from 1985, played the crap out of it for years. As long as the guitar is constructed well, it won't matter that much. Comes down to what a person prefers. Nicely done dude and Happy Holidays! 🎶🎸😎🎶
I got a squier stagemaster, which is a neck through, for $94!
An interesting point is if you build it yourself. Then neck-thru can be easier. You dont necessarily need a router. They are not cheap. You use a circular saw before you add the wings to "route" the cavities. At least I hope it works bcoz im gonna try. And the precise fit of the neck is eliminated as well as glueing. But if you have a workshop with everything then it doesn't matter. But that is a major investment.
You say the glueing is also eliminated, so I was just wondering, how exactly are the wings joined to the neck?
Wow that’s the same Aria Pro II my friend had in high school. Never stayed in tune lol. No one showed us what to do with it. ‘91 was about the year he had his! Cool✌🏻🎸
The best wat to check sustain is to not plug the guitar into any amp. Try it unplugged and feel and listen to the sustain. Also i would have liked to hear you opinion on neck stabilitity between neck through vs set neck and bolt on neck.
Uh, no it isn't.
My '77 Ibanez MC-500 Musician, neck-thru, is still hanging tough. Never warped or bowed afterall these years.
That's the best vintage Ibanez.....
You've got a keeper
Thank you for your video. Greatly appreciate it and very informative. And it did seem out of the three guitars that you played that the neck surgery did have a longer sustain by quite a bit. At least that's what I heard. Listening that was neck through body
I also have all three types, & do favor neck thru, however, I seem to get a lot of great use with my cheap Ibanez RGA at my gigs, it's a work horse, great video Robert, Merry Christmas to you & your family .
Thanks Dave, same you good sir! Merry Christmas!
Thanks for the info.
My pleasure!
It's be nice to see sustain tests of similar guitar with different neck types.
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Great video by the way! Just the kind of information I was looking for to have a better understanding of this subject. Many of my electric guitars are bolt on (Fender, Ibanez RG), but I also have a number of set necks as well. I will admit I'm not an accomplished guitar play, so for the most part I don't really notice the difference. I do however, get annoyed at people who 'look down' on bolt on necks. I don't think Fender or Ibanez would have had this much success with their guitars if bolt-on necks were not good.
That's a great point about the playability up on the high frets of thru necks vs bolt-on. I never thought of that before. Btw your riff reminded me of To End the Rapture by A7X
Fade to black mid section. A7x Metallica inspired. Legit enuf!
I have alot to say on this...I like them all.
Me too!
Never has there been so much said with so few words... 👍
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Good morning Robert. Yea I have all 3 types although my bc rich guitars have what they call set through. So it looks like a neck through but it's actually a set in neck. I have always had problems with actual neck through guitars. All I will say here is my best playing best sounding guitar is a bolt on Jackson.
I like all three, but my favorite guitar currently is a neck-through Ibanez RGAT62.
Ironically enough, my least favorite guitar that I own is also a neck-through Ibanez.
well you most not hate it too much because you own one
Should I get the rgat62?? Lol
Humbucker vs Single Coil vs P90 next please!
Might be a bit on that one. I actually do not own a P-90 guitar.
You can tell them apart in sustain and tone. I favor the set neck mostly i play gibson more than anything but i have a weird shaped schecter neck through that rings on and on.. this video sure explains a good deal of sound and sustain. Thanks.
Well having a neck-thru with floyd rose does not feel a convenient comparison against the other two for sustain. A stable bridge is going to provide more sustain than a whammy bridge unless the guitar has really old strings on it. or the tuners and the bridge is not wobbly. I haven't been able to afford a neck thru body guitar yet for being a guitar player for 16 years myself. But i have a plenty of bolt-on, or screwed in neck guitars and a set-neck les paul style guitar. They all sustain close, the set-neck les paul style sustains the most but probably due to it having less output active pickups rather than very high output passive pickups on the other guitars. What matters for the sustain the most is not the mass of the body, not the neck-body joint but the bridge, strings, nut and tuners. The more stable they are, the more sustain you get. The more bridge is touching the wood, the more sustain you get. If you use steel strings you'll get more sustain. If your bridge is a very long tele-like bridge, you'll get more sustain. You can't expect the wood to provide a lot of sustain on it's own as it's not extremely solid like steel is.
I own several of all three, I like the variety of having all of them however there is no worse guitar to play at the 22nd fret than a Les Paul. Shape adds to the comfort/discomfort as well as the neck type. Great vid Robert!
"Comfortable" and "Ergonomic"
Two words that have NEVER been used to describe a Les Paul.
They are if you’re talking about the Les Paul Axxess. 🤷🏼♂️
I have a neck-thru custom shop jackson rr1 that has been my go-to guitar for metal since I bought it in 97, replacing my previous go-to being a USA made Warlock. I fucking love that Jackson and have yet to find a better guitar for metal, but honestly I think that's probably more about build quality, tonewoods, electronics etc than the neck configuration, because I also love my strats and Gibsons for non metal stuff. As you mentioned, almost all strats are bolt on, even the higher end USA made versions, and anyone who says they sound like cheap guitars should be beaten to death WITH a bolt on neck!
There's a video from Philip McKnight where Neal Moser, luthier and founder of BC Rich, states that it's the convergence of quality components, quality materials, and build quality that makes a guitar sustain and resonate more. He says the best quality pile of parts won't sound good of there's poor build quality and quality control.
Neal wasn’t the founder of B.C. Rich, that was Bernie Rico, Sr. Neal was an employee at B.C. Rich in the early days and he is the one who designed the Bich and the Varitone circuit that is common on higher-end B.C. Rich guitars. He IS, however the founder of his own guitar brand Moser Guitars, which are very B.C. Rich inspired and fantastic instruments. And he’s right, the biggest pile of the greatest parts and materials in the world aren’t worth a damn without a skilled individual to build something with them. I actually know Neal fairly well, he’s a great guy.
@@RobertWJackson Neal wants way too much for his guitars, at $5,000 on up. Half that price might be doable, and acceptable, but come on.
@Bobby Knight Last I checked, it’s Neal Moser who determines what his labor is worth and what he needs to make a respectable profit on his guitars, not you. But rest assured, if after 20 years Neal suddenly decides that he needs an outside consultant on how he runs his business, I’m sure you’ll be his first call. 🤦🏻♂️
I've had bolt on all my life since 1972 except for a new Schecter E1 trans purple they're actually saying the bolt ons have proven to have more sustain. That could be because a lot of the fender bowl plans are maple. All I know is I have always had great sustain with maple necks and maple guitars they might be heavier but to me they seemed worth it. I like to be able to have a guitar so that I can make whatever kind of adjustment I want I actually prefer my kahler whammy bars over Boing Rose lol because it seems like I'm always bumping the thing too hard And it just goes Boing lol, Kahlers always hold tune I like the full adjustability and stiffness etc And they give me enough of what I want and I would rather have the stiffness and cam action. I seem to do smoother pullbacks on harmonics and dive bombs then. As we all know Though it's all in you're playing style what you become used to. I'm too much of a wild man For the Floyd on this Schecter lol I do my best playing when I really get into it. I am more of a power cord rhythm and lead guitarist then all out shed lead. I don't have nobody to jam with around here so I try to get as much sound out of it playing by myself as I can, so my picking style probably a lot different than a lot of other peoples. I've seen a few glue on next damage before so if I was going to go anything other than a bowl time I would go full thru neck but in a lot of cases I see these guys paying big bucks for through next that I really don't think are worth the extra money for that. It's just my personal Thoughts. I'm going to be building some projects this winter. I'm curious what people think of Ebony fretboard versus anything else. I want to get into some custom Inlay this winter too. I play more classic rock stuff for stuff like Ozzie I seem to play better with the jumbo frets for some reason. Could be just not gripping the neck as tight or something I don't know. Cool video I like to see some of you guys though crank it like blow the walls off the building ha ha ha ha LOL
bolt on is what i like....just a better way all around,..and hey robert!
Hey Jeremy! 🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼
As a builder ( not a Luther, that title goes to master craftsmen ) wood species play's a important role ( not tone wood please don't go there that subject is toboo ) the density and wood grain they are going to play a huge role in
sustain but at the end of the day the Luther's magic touch is where it all starts and ends so neck joint is of choice then pickups make that sweet tone we will die for
My preference is for bolt-on necks.Nice Aria Pro 2.
I've always preferred bolt on neck's, I own at present 4 Fender Strat's, 1 Tele. But the being said, I also have a ESP Ltd JH Truckster & a PRS Custom.... Although I prefer bolt on's, either specification has never been a hindrance to my judgement.... I hope that makes sense...?
I own all three types. As far as sustain goes...any of the three, if properly built, are capable of producing good sustain only comparable by density of woods and build quality. I've experienced bolt ons having more sustain than set/neck thrus and vise versa. To be taken on a guitar-by-guitar basis.
That said, bolt on has the edge on the other two constructions because of the ease of maintenance and replacement.
But as far as playability is concerned, having a neck through makes it easier to play when playing high notes because you don't feel a joint between the body. It is just comfier for me
Another trade-off, though, is that bolt-on necks have a certain “snap” to them that makes them a bit brighter when compared to neck-thru guitars. I have no idea why this is, it’s just something I’ve noticed over the years.
@@RobertWJackson Good point... I know Gibson Les Pauls have a certain 'snap' to them as well. Namely, in the headstocks...lol
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@juna wood The tone is in the pickups gibson uses.
Recent studies shows that the Bolt on guitars have more sustain than neck thru
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I have set necks and bolt on. 7 guitars total and of those, a cheap Washburn with a bolt on I gave 20 bucks for on Facebook has the most sustain. It will ring out nicely for 47 seconds. That's 9 seconds longer than my goldtop les paul and 12 seconds longer than my sg, and about 15 seconds longer than my telecaster. Oddly, the cheap guitar is the only one with a whammy bar. So I get better sustain through a cheap trem than a tune a matic stopbar or a strung through tele
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I don't own a thru neck but I have Gibbys, a American Standard Strat, my beloved Legacy, and a Artist package Paul Reed Smith and honestly I can't hear a bit of different in sustain even at low volume. I can hold a note forever. I would say it's more in quality of construction AND pickups.
I've got a question I don't see addressed that much:
Can a set neck hold onto mid/large caliber strings? I mean stuff like 11-52/54. I'm a rhythm guitarist and I really don't want the string tension damaging the neck. I mostly go for bolt-ons in that regard, but I'm currently thinking on buying a set neck and I don't know if it's gonna work long term with those calibers.
Yep, just adjust the truss rod accordingly.
I just got a mxr kfk Kerry King footswitch 10-band EQ I just recently hooked it up cuz I Got new chords
Oh I know..I'm typing this as I watch disney commercial..the bolt on sounds great were as the cement guitars sound underwater... because like cement is like hard n doesn't work well with sound....
I like neck tru
There are plenty of bolt-on models that have a lot more accessibility than the hard-edge square shape you showed. Ibanez RG and S Series come to mind as being quite well shaped to allow easy access to the upper register of frets. Bottom line: buy what you like and what feels good to you.
Can you do a review on heavy metal guitars
I do those all the time. LOL
Honestly for me it really doesn't matter. I own all 3 types, I like all 3 types and as far as sustain, being all mine are very high end and well built the sustain has never been a reason I pick up a guitar with one exception. That exception being by Schecter Apocalypse with a sustaniac pick up in it. I can sustain a note until the batteries die. So if I really need sustain to the point where it really matters then that's the guitar I use.
Anymore I look at the feel and access to the lower frets, that't it. Neck-thru and some bolt-ons really are top notch here. Neck-thru easy to see, but some ibanez like the new Nita Straus is a bolt on neck that is carved in, also the high end ESP's. I haven't seen a set neck with really great access. Doesn't mean they aren't out there but I just haven't seen one.
I only have one guitar that's not a bolt on, I prefer it honestly. Bolt on is more common and sounds tighter, which is even more important for extended range guitars. The whole neck through sustains better myth is just a myth because the king of sustain, also known as the Gibson Les Paul, is a regular set neck, and Joe Satriani and Steve Vai are known for sustainaing for days with bolt on guitars. Also, it's way too easy to make the neck joint on a neck through guitar look nasty
So, How many Guitarists does it take to change a lightbulb?
11. 1 to change it and 10 more to stand around and tell how they would have done it better.
Guitar number 3 is all one wood right? For any reason the neck was to break,is it refixable?
It’s technically 4 pieces of wood (neck, fretboard, 2 wings), but all glued together. If you break the neck, other than gluing it BACK together, it’s done.
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1983/1984 Fender stratocaster 62 reissue w/HSC collectible AVRI Fullerton Strat cost lots of money
what do you think about the BC Rich Warlock
I own two or three of them currently, and have owned a few others over the years as I’m a die-hard B.C. Rich guy. The Warlock is one of my favorite B.C. Rich body shapes. Which Warlock specifically?
I am here because of hermen lees prs coustom guitar breakdown🤣 . What construction was that
Around 4:30 is when all the uncertainty and cuts come in.
My birthday just passed Robert I got a new guitar a Dimebag Razorback for my birthday and I got my BC Rich Warlock
Nice! Congratulations!
I prefer bolt on.
Neck through and set through is the same or no?
No, set-through is just a set-neck guitar with the joint sanded and shaped to look and feel like a neck-through.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure most set-through guitars have necks that are placed further into the body than set-necks.
Agent Orange I don’t think so, Whether it’s a standard tenon or a long tenon on the neck, it’s still a set neck. I’ve always had the understanding that a “set-through” neck just has the joint sanded down to feel like a neck-through. The Schecter Hellraisers are a perfect example of this.
You're right about the joint but I looked around on some forums and people said that the pockets are a bit deeper for set-through. Kind of like a mid-way point between set-neck and neck-through. BUT that can always vary from brand to brand.
Anyways, I'm thinking of getting a Shecter Banshee Elite 8 which is neck-through.. Do you think it'll give good tone for heavy, progressive rhythm playing?
I've heard that bolt-ons are best for heavier rhythm styles but I've never owned a neck-through.
Agent Orange you heard bolt-ons are best for heavier styles of music? Nonsense, that’s a myth at best.
Yeah, get the Banshee dude. They’re killer guitars. They’re designed with hard rock and metal players in mind. You won’t be disappointed.
Thank God that wasn't a video about tone!!! Were you playing thru a First Act amp with the bass and mids turned off and the treble on 10??? Those guitars couldn't sound that bad under normal circumstances! Sheesh!!!
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I have limited experience with set necks, but have owned and messed around with plenty of bolt ons and neck throughs. I feel that the bolt on and neck through respond better to truss rod adjustments. Not sure why. Also a bolt on can be shimmed just in case the neck needs a little more tilt to it to get the action just right. Just my thoughts.
I could care less about sustain or tone, I just want the strongest durable neck. I suppose that would be the through neck?
Yes, or the bolt-on.
@@RobertWJackson I thought bolt on would be the weakest type of guitar neck?
Not if it’s built right. And in the event that it DOES break or warp, it’s by far the easiest and the cheapest to repair.
Can you replace a neck if it set thru? Or is it like a neck thru once its broken the whole thing is trash?
I suppose it could be done, but it wouldn’t be inexpensive to do so.
Depends on where it's broken, you can get rid of the projecting wood, route a neck pocket and have a set neck or bolt on neck attached.
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The Plexi is a great amp, but they’re LOUD. Sorry to hear you got ripped off on eBay, but I’m glad to hear they made it right.
I Got A B C rich Warlock Pro Platinum Series with a Floyd Rose
Good guitars, well-made, especially for the money. I had one of those at one point. I sold it to pay for something else, but part of me wishes I’d kept it.
Never seen this before..
Hi Robert I remember that you say marshall JCM800 I been looking and some are different then other but what I really like was the marshall 1959 JMP super lead plexi and some don't have the effect loop and some do they cost money so I have to decide marshall 1959 JMP SLP
There’s the Marshall JMP and the Marshall 1959SLP (Super Lead Plexi). Which one are you referring to?
Great content, Robert, thank you. It might be cool to add in the views, maybe quotes or recordings, of some well known builders or musicians on the topic, or several examples of each. The shapes of each type vary widely across this industry.
In over thirty-two years of playing guitar and nesrly as long playing bass, thirty years of working on, repairing, minor and major modding of, and rehabilitating instruments, and over twenty-five years building custom, handmade instruments, I have come the firm belief that any of these neck joint types can possess great sustain and magical tone. At the same time, any of these construction types can be of lousy material, poorly made, or poorly designed, and any type can sound just God-awful, no matter what it’s signal chainn.
I have built many variations on these three neck joint construction types, and many factors contribute to sustain and tonal character of the instrument. It always comes down to using high quality materials, Knowing how to use these materials, relative to the design specifics, based on the properties of the materials, such as density, composition, grain structure, cut geometry, construction and cut techniques used.
These will determine far more of the instruments sound and tonal characteristics than this one aspect of the overall instrument design, in my experience.
I do prefer to make instruments with the, “bolt-on,” construction, simply because it offers the customer the most flexibility to change the design as the build progresses, provides adjustability the other two types do not, can be replaced in the event of severe damage to the neck or headstock, and from a cost perspective, set-neck and meck-through construction requires longer pieces of raw materials, adding cost to the build.
It is a personal preference in most cases, and any of these construction types can result in a spectacular instrument. Tonal characteristics, sustain, and other qualities of a guitar or bass are determined much more by the materials, the components (pickups, preamp, etc.), the design, the construction methods being carried out by highly competent people, and the knowledge, skills, and capabilities which the Luthier, the builder, applies to each build as standard practice.
Just my opinion though.
LOL. Neal Moser of BC Rich - who builds neck-thrus says that bolt-on > Glued > neck-thru for sustain - everything else being equal. Yes, he says that bolt-on has the greatest sustain - but also emphasizes that it comes down to craftsmanship and who built it. But built right, the bolt-on has the most sustain.
Interesting. I happen to know Neal Moser pretty well. (Well enough that I have his personal cell phone number.) I’ll have to ask him that. I’m familiar with his stance on craftsmanship being king above all else, and I absolutely agree with him. But I’ve never heard him share his thoughts about different construction types.
Search on youtube for "Talking Bolt On Vs Neck Thru With Neal Moser" by Phil.
In a neck through, when the neck gets damaged or broken,
Can anything be done with the body?
Case-by-case basis, I would think. But not likely, more often than not.
Depends on where it's broken, you can get rid of the projecting wood, route a neck pocket and have a set neck or bolt on neck attached.
just cut the wings of with a hacksaw and glue-gun em onto a new neck.
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You forgot one Robert, the broken neck construction lol.
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Dude I l ok ve that zakk wylde guitar not usually a fan of his graphics but if I had to pick one that would be it
In checking tone out further, there is some guy trying to sell tone paint. Even I am not that stupid. Or maybe I am but I find that highly unlikely
Yep, snake oil at its finest.
I think bolt on neck has more vibration longer than set & neck thur all it matters is what type of wood your using for 👍😎🎸happy guitar saying
Right on
This is just a myth. If the guitar is well built and especially the fret work is done correctly, any neck joint will provide enough sustain. Just watch Yngwie to perform Black Star. He hold this E note for half a minute with his beat up Strats. How much more you need? Even those not so solid 3-bolt 70’s Strats can provide you enough sustain for anything. Were David Gilmour’s solos somehow compromised because the lack of sustain? Any type of neck joint can give you enough sustain for any number of records sold. However, the type of neck joint has plenty to do with the initial attack of the note and this makes a difference.
It does beg the question... Does a guitar the the string vibrates the body (you can feel) have more sustain? Or, does a guitar that all the vibration stays in the string (you can't feel it vibrate) have more sustain? Physics would lead a person to believe that if the vibration (energy) stays mostly in the string, it will vibrate longer, unless of course some how the body and neck of the guitar transfers and returns energy (vibration) back into the string in some kind of cyclic manner. Just food for thought. William C. central Indiana.
I was wondering exactly the same
I have been wondering about this for years, have not found yet an explanation that was satisfactory
Is a bolt on really more inexpensive? isn't it harder to make a snug joint rather than just glueing it in?
Actually, yes. Gluing it in is one thing. Gluing it in STRAIGHT is much more labor intensive.
@@RobertWJackson I'm sure it's down to the quality of work for any type of neck joint. Bad workmanship on a bolt on isn't as easy to cover up. I'v seen what some guitar builders on here have discovered from a well known brand that glues their necks. I really respect the small builders. The big companies have no excuse with their CNC machines and automated booths.
Agreed.
There's a reason, why the radio technician Leo Fender bolted the necks instead of glueing them, so yes, it's easier to handle. And since it's not an acoustic guitar and therefore the neck joint has got nothing to do with vibrations, it doesn't make even the slightest difference in the function (sound) of the electric guitar.
If making sound comparisons dont add sound effects on guitar sounds, i didnt hear that much difference but i know i was going to hear the difference if you played clean
Intro sounds like Pure by Mors Principium Est
I'm going to play that fade to black riff in mirror with the lights out to see if this guy will show up.
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I find that bolton necks can be bent more easily than neckthroughs because of the joint. Do this test, bar a chord and strum once, then bend the neck back and forth slightly with your fretting hand on the barred chord, you will hear the bending. I also find that guitars that have a higher action strings, that require more force, will accentuate this effect as you are applying more force to keep multiple strings down. I think as people bar necks with their thumbs in different positions it will bend the neck at different places.The player using his thumb at the back of the neck is more likely to bend the neck back and forth, as a bolton acts as a pivot point. This back and forth direction is already absorbing the forces from the strings and is more easily bent in this direction.
Without having watched the video and planning to do so, there is only one difference: the price for repairs. If a neck is tight it's tight. And no, electric guitars don't vibrate hence there can be no difference in sustain. (If an electric guitar vibrates, the luthier is crap.) Greetings a luthier
funny thing is that schecter is a set neck
I just went and looked it up on Schecter’s website and it does, indeed NOW say it’s a set-neck. I’m positive it said it was neck-thru when I first looked it up a couple of years ago. Must have been a mistake that they just recently caught.
@@RobertWJackson they possibly could have changed the construction over the years now that I think about it...I can't remember exactly. I had one of the first iterations of the C-1 blackjack back in like 2007 and it was set. This second gen could have been a neck thru. Wasn't trying to be a dick though at any rate.
I know you weren’t trying to be a dick, I didn’t take it that way. But I know some of the Blackjacks are neck-thru, and they’re currently out of production, so I guess who knows what in the hell I’ve actually got? LOL
Seems like schecter uses a transparent paint or stain to show the wood going all the way through on the neck through guitars.
They also sometimes use it on set-through guitars like the Hellraiser.
Funny coincidence, recently i had ordered one of those George Lynch KAMI-4 guitars and the heel was broken out of the case. And it was packed well. The replacement had a crack in the same part of the heel. I ended up getting a 2006 flying v instead. Its a shame cause George Lynch is my favorite guitarist and the guitar looked awesome. I dont want to say that ESP has quality control issues but the hardware was all loose too. For that price, I would expect something better. The flying v came in a gig bag and is in perfect condition.
hmm, he has a ring bolt as a strap hook on the Les Paul guitar.
Just like Zakk Wylde uses on his guitars. If you want stability, a pair of eye bolts and a pair of carabiners from the hardware store are about as fail-proof as you can get. And it will cost about $5 as opposed to $15-30 for a pair of Dunlop/Schaller/etc. strap locks.
@@RobertWJackson That would certainly be very solid if you are bouncing around on stage. I like the idea, but I play mostly sitting down in my guitar room, so I rarely use a strap.
Playing with distortion (as well as other effects, such as compression, gate, reverb…) will HIDE the true sustain properties of a guitar.
Best would be to plug the guitar into the clean channel of a very clean amp, without any added reverb, compression, etc.
i wonder if my preference towards dinkys as opposed to soloists has something to do with the neck? I'm really not sure at all...does anybody else have that problem?
Dinkys I believe are also about 10% smaller than Soloists. The smaller body size might be easier for you to play, so that could be a factor, as well.
@@RobertWJackson that'd be the reason! can't believe i never noticed haha
I'm so tempted to buy a USA Select Dinky the only thing that stops me is that I have never owned a bolt on and I'm afraid I will hate the blocky neck joint. And I'm not sure if the Dinky body is actually smaller. There seems to be a lot of conflicting info online about this.
Now do a video on different types of bridges and talk about how Floyd Roses are the shittiest, most poorly design and non user friendly bridges ever designed. 😉😹👏🏼
Nah, I love Floyds. LOL
I don't know about this. Video the first 2 had emgs and whit active pick ups the wood you have behind doesn't matter and hear no different untill you play the third one why pasive pick up so this vid is not accurate i think we will know difference if they had all passive and same pickups
Because EVERYONE even most of the Chinese builders use a CMC machine which allows both the neck and body can be cut out on a table using a type of router. The router is controlled by a computer that cuts it all out flawlessly. Soooo fixed necks take very, very little extra labour. Do to the tactful silence of the makers the 'myth' that the set necks the bolt on's continues. Thus selling you bolt on neck in the entry level makes good marketing sense. It makes many feel they 'MUST' move up to the more expensive
set neck.
Odd ....Fender can charge $6000.00 USD for custom Shop bolt on guitars.
Why do some players think a bolt on sounds better? Well for one thing many are made with a body of one wood and the neck of another they both resonate differently and the tiny space between them left by only bolts snugging them up does not blend the two sounds. The result is a very complex sound...thus a rich sound. The set neck though makes the guitar resonate evenly and it will not cause the dampening of the space between neck and body of a bolt. Result ...longer sustain.
I have 10 guitars. I have bolt on's, fixed necks...maple finger boards and rosewood. All the guitars sound great. All sound different. Your PU's, amp and pedals make a HUGE difference. So do not sweat it.
If the feel look and sound of any guitar inspires you.. get a decent amp and get on with it.
I own bolt-on and neck-thru guitars. Hands down, the neck-thru has much more sustain.
Somthing sounds wrong maybe its jus they its nice at the moment lol we kno u can play man bo insult.jus saying somthing sounds off brotha
They're not bolts, they're screws.
Tomato, to-mah-toe...
Yep.. the bolt on is much cheaper... now.. take a Telecaster from someone and drop it... o.m.g !!!.. mmm.. she is o.k.
Same thing with Gibson... just one different.. the Gibson.... you need to fix it.. because she is 98 % of the time Gibson loves to get broken.. and you don't need to make her even fall... just play really hard + bad tec..
The cheaper way is the best way in this case... don't listen to me.. look for "Gibson guitar broken...."
You removed almost all the sustain of the neck thru by adding the Floyd Rose.
nonsense
@@mercatorjubio3804 Fact, Floyd Rose lowers sustain. It also changes the tone of the guitar in comparison to a full contact bridge like a fixed bridge or Babicz. Think about it, the strings have the least amount of ontact with the body of the guitar and therefor the least amount of vibration transfer into the wood. There are tons of studies on Floyd Rose effects on sustain and tone.
The so-called studies you mention are all biased and the "evidence" is anecdotal at best. A proper Floyd Rose bridge (not the cheap import stuff) will NOT have a negative effect on anything. Fact.
@@mercatorjubio3804 Lol there are videos with actually visual evidence on sound waves using the same guitar that factually show what I'm saying. Also I have in the past owned multiple schecter C-7 guitars both with hip shot hardware and both neck-thrus made from the exact same wood minus one having bubinga stripes in the neck and the other had paduka. The pickups were also different, but not plugged in it was crazy obvious the floyd had way less sustain and less pronounced tone and warmth. Also the fixed bridge I had to EQ off the lows to record with, because it had to much low end and I had to remove the high end with the floyd. This has some to do with the different humbuckers, but not all.
You can of course believe whatever you want.
Too long speak
Jimi Hendrikson.......?....
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Neck thru all the way. Bolt on necks look cheap and feel clunky to play at the higher frets. Since when is "no one could tell the difference" a reason to do something? If it's just for money saving purposes, that's fine. But a $1000+ dollar guitar with a cheap bolt on neck? Why?
Lower end versions of set-neck and neck-thru guitars are often made with bolt-on necks to save cost, but there are PLENTY of high-end guitars that have bolt-on necks simply because that’s how they’re designed. The Ibanez RG, Charvel guitars, Jackson Dinky, Suhr guitars, Tom Anderson, and, oh yeah, pretty much ALL FENDER GUITARS, and all of those guitars are easily worth the price tag. Neck construction doesn’t determine price, quality does.
@@RobertWJackson you're not wrong of course. Just having my main guitar as a neck thru the past few years I strongly prefer that style as far as feel goes. And I can't see an actual advantage to having a bolt on neck other than lower price for construction, and possibly the ability to change to a different neck which I doubt I'd ever do.
I prefer neck-thru, as well. I just don’t want to turn my nose up at great guitars that happen to have bolt-on necks.
I disagree with you completely. A good tight perfect Bolt on neck joint, with threaded insert ferrules, and BOLTS not wood screws, has the best sustain by far. bolt on neck joint made with screws sustains the better than neck thru as well, but just not as good a joint as real bolts, neck thru is next, then set neck.
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